The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:10 pm I, Skeletor, would defeat Blooper, because Skeletor can do this:

Read the rules people. That's how Pokemon got lost.

12) Dogs are not allowed in the dog park. People are not allowed in the dog park. Try not to look at the dog park.

My favorite mythical creature has to be a griffin. Nothing's more badass than a griffin

My favorite mythological creature is Cans. Or at least when Speedchuck plays as Cans and doesn't use his one ability after being lynched day one and surviving

#never forget dersehunt

#never forget Credithunt when I gut killed 2/3 mafia

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:46 pm
Isn't it, like...

"Is that a motherfucking JoJo reference?!"

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:09 pm Aaaaaand that's it.

Most inclined to vote Sprityo for self preservation lolololol or Epi for picking on someone he may view as weak.

Epi has seen Tony twice. Once, in a mediocre town performance in ME (sorry, Tony. I've seen you do better) and once when he got himself modkilled and lynched with only one post.

Does Epi care? No. Is that good as a townie? Yes. Is it a great cover to push a bad lynch? For sure.

Tony hasn't said anything to make me think he is good or bad.

Someone ask me a question.

Linki@ Speed

All the more reason to lynch Sprityo and save us both the trouble.

I was thinking the exact same thing!

Well I've read enough. Mostly of what I wanted.

Same ole same ole, I want to policy lynch jack because he's a

but anyone with half a brain should know this is all banter that me and jack have and have little to no proof to actually want the other lynch outside of past grudges

Moving on, I'm gonna call it off the top of me head that........ Rico is mafia aligned. Yeah that's a good guess. I feel satisfied in my bowels about that statement

Also griffin was listed at least twice as the favorite creature and that just enforces the popular opinion that griffins are in fact the best.

Oh also epi is town or indi.

Making predictions based off no substantial information is fun ain't it?

I had something snarky to say to Speedchuck but I lost connection and therefore my reply.

I'll get you next time

I need to know what the current votes are

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:26 pm I need to know what the current votes are

if it comes down to it ill just put whoever i had listed earlier in my "content" (which wasnt really content, this has been established by Speedchuck and he is correct

)

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:06 pm Moving on, I'm gonna call it off the top of me head that........ Rico is mafia aligned. Yeah that's a good guess. I feel satisfied in my bowels about that statement

wow i guess im gonna vote rico unless informed otherwise

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:32 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:29 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:26 pm I need to know what the current votes are
if it comes down to it ill just put whoever i had listed earlier in my "content" (which wasnt really content, this has been established by Speedchuck and he is correct )
How to you feel about Boomslang?

linki: gimme a momet

Boomslang wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:24 pm Howdy, everybody! Been browsing and perusing leisurely. Things that jump out:

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:11 am
Made wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:13 am Have you played with all the users in this game in the past previously that are here now?

Made, what is the purpose/meaning/point/idea/mission of this question?
Agreed with speedchuck's ponder. Driving discussion to the meta always seems like a cop-out for content generation. This sounds fine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:09 pm Most inclined to vote Sprityo for self preservation lolololol or Epi for picking on someone he may view as weak.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:14 pm @INH lol that's me when I'm about to win as a baddie. "Throw me the idol."
Why that many "ol" additions the first time? Possible tell that you were thinking too hard about that post, and baddies must generate content whole-cloth. Could be an indication of teamwork, again playing off meta. Reachie Reach and the Extended arm. but this is more than likely bothering jack cause boomslang only has three posts. IMO nothing to worry about, because nothing that sticks out to me. youre being paranoid again jack

I will put it down for record i wanted to lynch rico first. Gut decision dont fail me now. albeit this is day 1 and i have been a little queasy today.

hrrrgh i will not say "im not confident so dont blame me if this goes bad." but whatever, i'll just have to stick with my decisions, like in real life

vote Rico

(also i cant seem to find the colors)

let me just format this here voterino since im used to it:

TITLE TEXT

Made (2):(speedchuck) (Neverwhere)
Richochet (2):(Made) (Sprityo)
speedchuck (1): (Elohcin)
Golden (1):(DrWilgy)
sprityo (1):(JackofHearts2005)
Dom (1):(Golden)
DrWilgy (1):(DFaraday)

was that underline dnot suitable? i think boomslang looks unsuspicious and he made a comment towards you that you find suspicious, even though you shouldnt. boomslang does not look bad since he hasnt said anything to prove otherwise so far. he only has 4 posts so it's also not easy to judge, but as of what he has, he's not bad...for now

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:54 pm Why do you think I find Boomslang suspicious?

V V V V V

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Boomslang wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:24 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:09 pm Most inclined to vote Sprityo for self preservation lolololol or Epi for picking on someone he may view as weak.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:14 pm @INH lol that's me when I'm about to win as a baddie. "Throw me the idol."
Why that many "ol" additions the first time? Possible tell that you were thinking too hard about that post, and baddies must generate content whole-cloth.Could be an indication of teamwork, again playing off meta.

Boomslang wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:56 pm Linki: Spirit, you're putting words in Jack's mouth. im working off prior experience with jack, who tends to be paranoid, Mass Effect Mafia pops to mind Asking you what you think about me could indicate suspicion of me; it could also be an attempt to pry info from you. And not admitting that possibility is deflection. i suppose youre right

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:01 pm speedchuck (Elohcin)
Golden (DrWilgy)
sprityo (JackofHearts2005)
Dom (Golden)
Made (speedchuck) (Neverwhere)
DrWilgy (DFaraday)
Ricochet (Made) (sprityo)

i go through all my hard work, just to have you not use the easy to read version?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:47 pm TITLE TEXT

Made (2):(speedchuck) (Neverwhere)
Richochet (2):(Made) (Sprityo)
speedchuck (1): (Elohcin)
Golden (1):(DrWilgy)
sprityo (1):(JackofHearts2005)
Dom (1):(Golden)
DrWilgy (1):(DFaraday)

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:04 pm I saw your version. It lacks soul.

i would add color

IF I COULD FIND IT!

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:26 am
LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:23 am Or, you know, you could use words....

Oh hell naw. I am NOT about to be shoved into a freaking corner by Jack AGAIN, I am not dying before freaking day 3 AGAIN, and will not be the butt of all suspicion when you guys don't want to freaking look elsewhere.

Let me rephrase jack, I said paranoid in the sense you OMGUS anyone who so much as glances at you. What are you doing right now? The exact. Same. Thing. Maybe once I see something different, say you going after someone on your own instead of waiting for someone to come to you, I will change my opinion. But for now, the way you play will almost always make me suspicious of you.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:46 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:39 pm That's an outright lie considering I've tried to engage with INH (he all but ignored me), have made multiple points of contact with Tony, and just probed Eloh.

But cute.

You can't say you were suspicious of me since day 1 AND also say that my Night 1 rebuke of you is teh source of your suspicion, Golden. Which is it? I've asked this question before, and you've ignored it because you have no answer. Sad !
*Sad!*
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:28 pm is something Donald Trump would say about critics
Be better than Donald Trump.
:cheeky:

this has been the first thing all day to make me smile, thank you TSP

Hmm, i see jack browsing here. but he hasnt said a thing since last night. im inclined to believe he is being forced to vote, not sure if that's been mentioned but it's my first thing im noticing when reviewing who is voting for who

Dom, can you tell me real quick why youre not voting golden, even though he has already voted for you.

Currently outside of the conversation, all i see is having to choose dom or golden. Rico is being, whatever, hex claiming. Perhaps if he provided an understandable reason to vote INH i would accept. and speedchuck voting LC is a gut thing. Golden also just said his was a gut thing, but he's also backing it up with his personal experiences with dom. and then there's jack voting golden, but i already noted how i find it fishy and it looks forced based on we havent heard from jack all day-

linki:

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:58 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:53 pm Hmm, i see jack browsing here. but he hasnt said a thing since last night. im inclined to believe he is being forced to vote, not sure if that's been mentioned but it's my first thing im noticing when reviewing who is voting for who
I considered a forced vote. Since he's silent (been silenced?), he can't really tell us. Can the mod force a player's vote in the polls?

He could have been silenced, have info about Golden from some sort of info power, and wanted to give the town some direction.

Those are the only two reasons I could think of.

that and if he is silenced, he cant technically vote in thread like everyone else, so the poll is his only option. (which i would assume the mods are going to count it if role shenanigans are involced)

Golden is the only one really pushing for a lynch today. does anyone else have a preference to counter act it? it has been clogging up the thread all day.

linki 2: the real situation is do you agree with golden to lynch dom, do you disagree with golden and think he's acting scummy and want to lynch golden, or is it just a misguided lynch. alternatively is it a bad lynch but if you throw shade on golden for mislynching dom, can you then lynch golden/give yourself an excuse to do so.

conclusion: this is a clusterfuck and i dont want to read the back and forth of dom and golden, so lets either figure it out or move away from it

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:06 pm Sprit - actually is rather lynch lc. But Dom would be fine.

1. explain

2. then drop this whole post flooding nonsense with dom

@eloh i dont think we have substantial evidence on it, to push for it is highly valuable for both mafia teams since either they kill marcus, or they lynch a townie

if you wanted to test it, you could either tie lynches or make on lynch with TSP on it one point below and see what happens

thats still a risky result that could end up making things worse

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:27 pm Here's why I think LC is bad.

Bad LC forgets to play the ball. He gets driven into arguments that look good in semantics, but actually betray a lack of full thought. In this case, the ball is 'golden is avoiding LD statements'.

What is the first thing a person might do if they genuinely thought another player was avoiding LD statements? I would iso that player to see if it's accurate. I'd actually go look at how many LD statements they've made. I invite anyone to do that now.

You will see that my post history is full of 100% ironclad LD statements. My guess is that most of them amount to someone saying 'golden is bad' and me replying by saying 'you're wrong'. Because anyone who says I am bad is wrong. But I'm sure I've also given any number of other things that amount to 'I am civilian' or 'I am not bad'.

Instead, LC decides to fixate on the one statement I made that I knew could have the same effect even if all of those other statements were not allowed. He ignores the fact that I said 'I've made plenty' before making that one. He doesn't check to see if that's correct. He just fixates on the new ones I'm trying to think of that might enable me to beat any particular rule that could be in place. He wants to hang me because 'I don't know what rule might be in place', but if I actually were bad, don't you think I'd have asked what rule was in place?

I give him one that ought to be tailored right to his wheelhouse. LC has seen me in action both as a teammate and host. He knows that I do not bail on taking part of a team for any phase unless I really have to. What's his comeback? He agrees that I wouldn't fail to take part if I could, but I might have been too busy. A person who has a real suspicion, and was playing the ball, would go and look to see if that made sense in context, not just throw it out as a hypothetical. In fact, looking at the thread, it is very clear that I was entirely here and could have taken part.

LC is playing me, the player, he isn't actually looking to see whether I'm making LD statements.

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Btw, I'd also like to point out, in terms of 'towniness meter', that while I've thrown out reads on nearly everyone in the game without problem (and been happy to adapt those reads), this has been generally criticised by the same people who see me as bad. In the mean time, I think a quick iso of Dom and LC would show you a distinct lack of reads. They are getting by, mostly focusing on me.

Dom and LC, want to prove you aren't bad? Start engaging with more than your cases on me.

At this point, if I had my vote back, I'd probably lean a vote on LC before Dom. Dom tunnels do happen from town Dom, and I can see how me voting him could get under his skin in a way. But LCs tunnels are usually well reasoned - even if the theories are out there, they fit with a thoughtful analysis of the facts. This is completely lacking here... he isn't taking a step back to consider what I'm saying, it's just discredit discredit discredit. This is my experience of bad LC. I remember another game... Bullets over Broadway maybe? Where the same thing happened.

is this the one i should read, golden?

Alright i think i see what youre getting at, Golden, and i can see why speedchuck would agree with you on voting LC, even though you already voted dom for, pressure was it? or it was just a gut read that you are okay with but still think LC is a better lynch?

linki:

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:23 pm golden has no fucking interest in anything i say that doesn't pertain to him.

golden is the only one responding to what i'm even saying so there's a erason why

well arent you just directing it all TOWARDS Golden?

Having watched LC as mafia from Phenon, i can apply what golden said about: "But LCs tunnels are usually well reasoned - even if the theories are out there, they fit with a thoughtful analysis of the facts. This is completely lacking here... " and can agree with it.

also @TSP are you planning on voting for LC or not? i saw you expressed agreement with it earlier

I want to give dom a chance to restart during the night phase, so im inclined to Vote LC

linki: @Dom, youre not helping yourself by getting defensive and flustered. Continuing to act that way will get people to vote you, like Eloh just did

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:31 pm I don't actually think TSP should follow through on his plan to prove he's not Marcus. It's too easily manipulated by the baddies, whether he is one or not.

agreed

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:31 pm maybe I want to be out.
Maybe I don't like how apparently we can be a dick to each other and that's called "playing the game"

maybe just take a break for tonight, sometimes over saturation can lead to sensory overload and you make rash statements

feels a little rude to lynch a person not here to defend himself, but ive had it happen to myself multiple times and it's just the (bad) luck of the draw i suppose

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:35 pm I'm not enthusiastic about someone who votes, and then tries to get people to vote elsewhere.

Not to defend golden, but you DID consider that we cant change votes right?

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:36 pm WTF is with all of the third party hosting crap in people's sigs?

And in light of the remaining minutes to this day, I'm never going to catch up fully, if someone can give me the cole's notes on the big cases?

signatures broken, turn them off in your account setttings

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:42 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:36 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:35 pm I'm not enthusiastic about someone who votes, and then tries to get people to vote elsewhere.
Not to defend golden, but you DID consider that we cant change votes right?
The Syndicate used to be no-change-votes central. I know we can't change votes.

my point being, do you think he wouldve changed votes if he could?

Here's something. I want to hear from DrWilgy, having recently completed a game with him, i know how much of a town player he can be, and also how advantageous he can be to gather town credit

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:48 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:30 pm I want to give dom a chance to restart during the night phase, so im inclined to Vote LC

linki: @Dom, youre not helping yourself by getting defensive and flustered. Continuing to act that way will get people to vote you, like Eloh just did
I find this curious.
Why did sprit want my vote out of the way?
Was he sincere in granting me clemency?

Does anyone have the vote order?

i didnt want it out of the way per say, i wanted you to vote for Golden if you were so convinced he was wrong and against you. I also believe in people giving their good side since mafia can be a stressful game, that's why i always include a Take a Break rule in my setups. I know youre a good player Dom, but you gotta realize when something isnt worth chasing.

The only thing I got out of Rico's "analysis" I guess you could call it is that he thinks I bussed LC yesterday. I think? He quotes all my day 2 posts and then the strexcorp

Yknow it's a lot easier to convey thoughts with grammatically correct sentences

Lauren Mallard
A member of StrexCorp management, Lauren briefly takes over as management of Night Vale Community Radio. She uses her access to community records to role check on 2 occasions *Secrets*

As a reminder of who we lynched. Here is the Faceless old woman:

The Faceless Old Woman Who Secretly Lives in Your Home
She’s always there, just out of your sight. The Faceless Old Woman insanifies a player each night in the manner of her choosing.

Damnit I hit send on accident instead of pasting *facepalm*

The former was strex and the latter is the politicians

Gah! I apologize for missing day start and night time conversations. I've been engrossed in Persona 5

I plan on catching up now

LoRab wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:35 pm That's a good point, Jack, that there could be someone on the team who was in 1 game and someone else who was in the other. Here's a list of all the potentials (of living players):

People involved in both games:
INH, Wilgy, Timmer, Rico, Dom, and Epi
Missed Epi when I made the list earlier--INH hadn't mentioned him when he posted his list of who had played Blue Velvet. He also missed Dom (who I listed, but didn't point out that INH skipped him), who modded the game.

(Eloh included only those not cursed, but I could see someone cursing themselves, so I'm included them)

People in Blue Velvet:
INH
Speedchuck
Wilgy
Timmer
Sprityo
Rico
Epi
Dom

People in Romance of the Three:
Epi
Boomslang
Dom
Wilgy
Elo
Golden
INH
LoRab
Rico
Timmer

so this is the first thing thats really caught my eye in reading the 5 or so pages ive missed.

so that's 6 people

two have been targeted for a curse.

This follows logically that one of them is the person giving curses. But dealing in that absolute is a foolish notion and shouldnt be followed entirely. Anyone could just as easily look up past games for curses, as well as have teammates who played in the games offer suggestion. Back to what "Caught my eye" though. INH is listed in both and Rico is gunning right for INH. Now maybe Rico is being close-minded and jumping to conclusions. Or maybe he has reputable proof of it being INH. HOWEVER, this looks much more like a ploy to lynch INH. But now we get into WIFOM where is getting INH lynched the goal or is it simply the mafia wanting us to believe the previously stated?

I'm gonna review over INH real quick for my own personal assurance, im almost caught up too

After reading INH's ISO i see nothing incriminating about him and his recent statements im agreeing with for the most part, specifically the below posts ive quoted. I do not want to lynch INH. What he mentions about Epi though piques my interest so now im gonna ISO Epi

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:24 pm Someone gets suspected for weak reasons. But, simply due to their name being thrown around, and a large part of the thread detailed to discussing them, they become legitimate targets for the lynch, mostly out of the other players' laziness.

Epi doesn't want to engage, because the more everyone talks about me, the easier it's gonna be to lynch me. It's in his best interest to prolong and prolong as long as humanly possible, and hope that sheer momentum pokes players into not reading the exchanges and instead assume that there's logic-based reasoning there. As long as he makes me into an option, that's one more option that's not him or his teammates.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:22 pm Is it really not conceivable to anyone other myself that someone who wasn't directly linked to one of those games either read the thread or was aware of the gimmicks from both games?

I mean, come on. The people insisting that it HAS to be someone who played both games are more than a little suspicious to me right now.

Think of it like this: Rico's curse on D2 attracted a crazy amount of heat for people involved with Blue Velvet. By intentionally choosing to do the same thing with Dom and Rot3k, they're essentially designing a Venn Diagram of people they want us to look at.

Odds are seeming higher and higher to me that the Faceless Old Woman was involved with one at most of these games, and researched gimmicks players used in games she wasn't in to mislead the town and cause mislynches.

There are two possible motives FOW has for cursing people with old-game-specific posting restrictions: Sheer fuckery, or to mislead the town.

I believe it to be the latter.

linki: oh yeah i should probably check up on TSP too since he is the leading lynch today

So having read Epi's ISO there was one thing abundantly clear

no large, collective posts regarding searching for information for a case on something

Day 1 is an entire shenanigan fest of jokes and a tunnel filled with TSP

this falls off as day 2 rolls around as he starts talking with Golden more, dropping shade on INH and Speedchuck as well

mostly everything ive read from Epi though reeks of defensive dismissive words. Maybe that's how he plays? but it looks unnatural to me. However, i dont think it warrants him a vote.... yet. were he to vote INH today it would definitely prompt me to vote for Epi, but in general he hasnt been playing optimally IMO

Reading TSP, he doesnt look the best, but at least when he answered Epi or things, it sounded right.

I WOULDNT have an issue lynching TSP, HOWEVER

Based off his interactions, we dont gain much information from it.

So if he flips town, we essentially gain nothing outside of a few singular posts and then whoever decided to lynch him

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:08 pm Sprityo, what's your stance on Elochin?

she looks lazy and very follow the lead of whatever sounds good. doesnt mean has to be good.

Not in the best stance IMO

linki: ive got my doubts over this TSP lynch.... but Golden, LoRab, and Speedchuck are generally good looking to me, even though i dont want to put all of my chips on LoRab and Speedchuck yet since i havent looked carefully at them, not to mention LoRab has some disagreements with INH from what ive recently read someone post.

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