The Syndicate

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:07 pm We have Lemon hard tunneling anyone who suspects them

Dennis voting me for being confused on progression

Roxy pushing me because they can't get over the last fucking game

Splints voting me for pointing out that there was a fallacy in their stated feelings.

Seanzie voting me for the 5th time in a row all of which I was town

Tell me town didn't already lose this game

Tell me my wagon is actually pure

Tell me these pushes on me are good. Sean is the only one pushing me in good faith here.

It's such a fucking joke.

I think you've been posting with an antagonistic tone this game - almost like purposefully pulling aggro
you've also refused to seriously address some questions when I've tried to reach out and engage with you, which tbh has been kind of frustrating

idk, I think you've oversimplified my reason for voting you too

who do you think are the scum voting you then?
and any scum who are off your wagon?

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:00 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:50 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:41 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:33 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:45 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:31 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:05 pm

Dennis are you howlin?
Nyope that's cringe
Weird cause like your treatment of me these past 2 pages is super woofy
how was it wolfy?
The progression makes no sense lol Dennis sees pressure on me and changes his read completely be cause "oh I was misremembering"
but does wolf Dennis just fake misremembering games like that?
I mean, sure, it's not unfakeable but it's such a unrealistic thing to fake, I don't think it would be a conscious decision anyone would make
Does wolf Dennis fake a town read on me than find a reason to change it when I start getting pushed especially knowing that I push him all the time when I'm town?

Probably yeah.

faking a townread and then changing it is wolfy
I just find it hard to tie that to Dennis, who I think was just mistaken

I think even if he was fake townreading you, he could've given a better fake reason for the change
which makes me think the derp in mixing up the games was real

now, you could argue that Dennis derped for real and then realized later and used it as a convenient excuse to back up a convenient change in read of you
but that by itself feels a bit reachy to be the only thing to scumread Dennis for (unless you have other reasons)

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:41 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:33 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:45 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:31 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:05 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:26 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:09 pm
wait, Dennis
can you post a reads list for me pls and ty
Not gonna lie I didn't really think much before and Neon is lower than I said when I answered seanzie, but not my first chop

They're not ordered within groups

Lemonfairy
Roxy
DrWilgy

fingersplints
Epignosis
falcon45ca

Neon
SixStrings
Matahari

Seanzie
Dennis are you howlin?
Nyope that's cringe
Weird cause like your treatment of me these past 2 pages is super woofy
how was it wolfy?
The progression makes no sense lol Dennis sees pressure on me and changes his read completely be cause "oh I was misremembering"

but does wolf Dennis just fake misremembering games like that?
I mean, sure, it's not unfakeable but it's such a unrealistic thing to fake, I don't think it would be a conscious decision anyone would make

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:40 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:28 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:02 pm [VOTE: SixStrings] aubergine
why?

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:05 pm I wanted to see how he responded

oh ok thanks

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:45 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:31 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:05 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:26 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:09 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:32 am Wow a lot of my saved posts were fluff

I guess everything important was in that first post
wait, Dennis
can you post a reads list for me pls and ty
Not gonna lie I didn't really think much before and Neon is lower than I said when I answered seanzie, but not my first chop

They're not ordered within groups

Lemonfairy
Roxy
DrWilgy

fingersplints
Epignosis
falcon45ca

Neon
SixStrings
Matahari

Seanzie
Dennis are you howlin?
Nyope that's cringe
Weird cause like your treatment of me these past 2 pages is super woofy

how was it wolfy?

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:18 am
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:59 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:42 pm There was some interactions more towards the end of D1 Dennis that looked like T Dennis. Either this is true or W Dennis has gotten better at faking reads.

Seanzie feels within his town range, He's kinda been doing middling work, especially how they've been re Epi and I associate that with his town play. During a recent game where I was misyeeted, Seanzie went hard for my push and was just unrelenting. I'd expect to see more behavior akin to that if W.

Neon's frustration during the SVS thing I still tl. I don't think W Neon tries to push the same point over and over, I think W Neon moves on.
like this post I pulled at random Wigly your thoughts read to me like:

Dennis could be TDennis
but he could have gotten better at his reads and be WDennis.

Seanzie town range but only doing middling work
but let me explain his wolf work too.

Neon Frustrated town
but WNeon would never do this
(even tho she did the exact same thing to me last game and with you TNeon'ed her then too lol)

Forced it's like I have to give reads otherwise people will wonder if I am bad so I will force some reads and ride that fence.
So you say I'm hedging? Because that doesn't make sense. Lemon asked as to why I TR these people, so I explained.

Dennis seems solidly within his t meta as I iterated and I'm only wrong if they've stepped up their W game by a large margin.

Should I not use meta to explain a meta read on Seanzie? Especially when Lemon may not have the context?

I'll reread Neon from last game and compare. I mostly stopped paying attention after I was murderified.
Spoiler it's literally not the same

can you list like 5 differences?
iirc you said you could list a gazillion

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:38 pm @Lemonfairy what say you on Neon, please

10/10 would vote

SixStrings wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:30 pm
SixStrings wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:26 pm [VOTE: Lemonfairy] aubergine
Based primarily on the last day of comments from Dr Wilgy and Epi, I feel their interactions with Lemonfairy cast enough suspicion for my vote.
This of course is subject to change, and I realize that it also does not help with any consensus as we have all voted for different people so far.

who else do you suspect aside from me then?

SixStrings wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:26 pm [VOTE: Lemonfairy] aubergine
Based primarily on the last day of comments from Dr Wilgy and Epi, I feel their interactions with Lemonfairy cast enough suspicion for my vote.

yo what
can you quote them and explain which parts you found suspicious?

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:02 pm [VOTE: SixStrings] aubergine

why?

Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:46 pm Apologies for this very wordy post, why use 3 words when you can use at least 7? Also, I know absolutely nothing at this point, so you’re about to get a sample of how my scatterbrain works.
Probably Town: Roxy
Surface Town: Dennis, Wilgy, Epig
PoE: everyone else

This is not terribly helpful so I’ll use another method- who would kill SVS on night 1? She is brilliant as either affiliation and so is Epig and Wilgy. So why choose SVS? If it was because the mafia figured she would read them, then I would suspect one/some of Epig, Wilgy, splints, and maybe Dennis or Six.
If it was because SVS had not suspected them yet, or had backed off of them, then nearly everyone ??? This one makes me look a bit harder at Neon and Lemon.
Neon is not playing the way she played in her town games that I have seen, which I said before-3 Town games is not much to go on. But it’s all I have to work with so I’m not going to ignore it. I would have to add Falcon in here also. I don’t think he’s playing the same as the only 3 games I’ve seen him in (he was Town in those games)
Now, here I go with my not-so-deep thoughts that will probably mean nothing, but it’s my process.

What if neon and Lemonfairy keep voting each other without even trying to persuade the town of why they think the other is wolf? Does this feel like bold distancing, or is this just how some people play? Does it mean something or nothing? I find it suspicious, and would appreciate feedback if anyone has any thoughts on this.

The players I’m most worried about are Falcon, Splints, Neon, and worried (but a little less) are Lemonfairy, Seanzie, Six.

Mata just listed like 6 scumreads
think they're probably town

me/Neon being w/w is very unlikely
idk, do I need to persuade people that Neon is a wolf? I think her behavior feels pretty self-evident

that reminds me, Wilgy townreading Neon also kind of threw me off wrt Wilgy's slot
same with Dennis but Dennis got two games mixed up lol

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:10 pm PoE today Sean, Mata, six, neon

I got natural wariness of Epi. Also niggling things about lemon and dennis.

Everyone else is town leaning atm

hmmmm
why Sean and Mata?

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:23 am Wilgy has always been a sort of easy read for me (actually I've never played with his as mafia. I'm terrified now) and nothing is out of line. He did his little wagonomics thing too which I always like from him. Kinda underwhelming for the top group I know but it is what it is

Epi v seanzie read like a difference check to me. Maybe I'm too quick to call something that isn't w/w a difference check but I do think there's a wolf in there. In their argument epi held his cool while seanzie wasn't really consistent, and backtracked on his epi townread as soon as he got pushed

agree that Epi/Seanzie is probs a difference check
I got a bit of the heebie-jeebies when Epi turned to push me for ?? reasons so I'm leaning more Seanzie town rn

might try to look at Epi again later

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:12 pm actually no, Wilgy's explanations is probably still fine

*are

brain bad

actually no, Wilgy's explanations is probably still fine

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:59 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:42 pm There was some interactions more towards the end of D1 Dennis that looked like T Dennis. Either this is true or W Dennis has gotten better at faking reads.

Seanzie feels within his town range, He's kinda been doing middling work, especially how they've been re Epi and I associate that with his town play. During a recent game where I was misyeeted, Seanzie went hard for my push and was just unrelenting. I'd expect to see more behavior akin to that if W.

Neon's frustration during the SVS thing I still tl. I don't think W Neon tries to push the same point over and over, I think W Neon moves on.
like this post I pulled at random Wigly your thoughts read to me like:

Dennis could be TDennis
but he could have gotten better at his reads and be WDennis.

Seanzie town range but only doing middling work
but let me explain his wolf work too.

Neon Frustrated town
but WNeon would never do this
(even tho she did the exact same thing to me last game and with you TNeon'ed her then too lol)

Forced it's like I have to give reads otherwise people will wonder if I am bad so I will force some reads and ride that fence.

...oh no I kind of like this post from Roxy

before I go, I think I have a lot of people just existing and I'm kind of grouping them together and my read on them might 180 depending on flips of other people
but I'm not sure if I can reliably read people this way yet

I lost my place ;-;

I have to go back and read what Six said about me >:c

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:47 pm I was about to vote Lemon and was kinda on board with that

how could you

I didn't actually end up reading much of the ISO btw
just remembered stuff off the top of my head

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:48 am
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:53 pm oh I forgot to post my list but I was at:

Roxy
Seanzie

Dennis
fingersplints
Matahari

falcon
SixStrings

Epignosis
DrWilgy
Neon

I'm kind of wavering a bit now though and not as sure as I was before on some people
Why am I so high?

I don't remember
let me do a quick ISO

I think 1) because your reads vibed with mine, 2) might've been pocketed by the TR, 3) reads list from D2 changed a lot from D1 and I think scum might be more conscious of consistency, 4) your TR is actually hinged a bit on falcon's alignment and imo falcon's behavior towards you defending them (which was to vote you lol) felt surface-level towny to me so it should be ok, 5) you look pretty unaligned with Neon and Epi

yeah actually, maybe Wilgy is town

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:00 am
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:31 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:24 pm (Lemon, get it)
sorry, just a pet peeve of mine
and I actually do think it's scum-indicative for someone to scumread me while not bothering to read my posts in full so it's just going to stay there for now

idk I'll sleep on it
I mean, you thought it was scum indicative of me to sr you and I've gone out of my way to quote the exact posts I have error with so...

idk I feel like I might be coming around on you
the main thing was the #75 read felt a bit forced b/c I thought it was very obvious what I was doing and that I was being very clear about it (usually I don't bother prefacing it with a "oh hey, this is what I'm about to do")

your explanations on your other reads are probably what makes me feel better about you
because at the end of the day, I'll probably still be biased when it comes to reads on me

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:38 pm [VOTE: dennis] aubergine for fun

??

hmmm Mata might just be town
I'm side-eyeing SixStrings a bit
Neon can still go tbh
(^these are from a skim)

going to read through/respond to everything now

I also found it hard to interact with you this game, Neon
because every time I ask you why you scumread me, I get "beacause you're scum" or something along those lines

like, what do I even say to that?
and how can I read you if I don't know the reasons behind your reads?

if I'm actually just wrongly OMGUSing (as opposed to correctly OMGUSing), I want to be able to re-eval and being shut down doesn't help me re-eval

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:29 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:23 pm I might be OMGUSing a bit
A bit?

You've only voted people who voted you first lol...

OMGUS is my ultimate skill

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:24 pm (Lemon, get it)

sorry, just a pet peeve of mine
and I actually do think it's scum-indicative for someone to scumread me while not bothering to read my posts in full so it's just going to stay there for now

idk I'll sleep on it

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 9:51 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:31 am OK, now this makes me feel better about Six, and worse about you. You snipped this out of context, and are kinda misrepresenting what's going on here.

I tagged Six in a specific question, and he is replying to it. Read it context,

... this reads more like any one of us answering that little notification bell to me.

Your post, and the way you snipped it, feels like low poster hunting rather than scum hunting.
no, I did read the entire thing in context
I just snipped it because it was messy (you'll notice I tend to do that)

the pop-in was just something I noted at the time (something I usually do silently in my head) and wasn't a scumread at time of posting
although later on I did end up scumreading Six for real for lack of content in general

I also was very much aware that Six must have received a notif from your reply but it was the fact that they didn't try to engage with the thread a bit more after that made me side-eye it

I was not misrepping Six, at least not intentionally
but if you want to say I'm low-poster hunting, yeah I'll accept that

like, unless I see something super towny from them, they stay in POE idc

@Epignosis here you go

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:22 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:20 pm I commented on everything
how are people just not reading
I said, "I don't see that Lemon ever commented about this."

That isn't to say you didn't comment. Again, I wasn't reading through your posts. I was reading through S~V~S's posts. I did stop and look around the surrounding context, but I didn't see where you talked about this (you talked about other things at the time).

If you have a link, please.

so you think I'm scum but you didn't read my posts? :c

and yeah, I'll try to find it and pull it up in a sec

I might be OMGUSing a bit

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

like it's fine if you think something I've said is scummy
but it's not fine if you don't even read my posts and call me scummy for not having posts that you didn't read >:c

I commented on everything
how are people just not reading

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:00 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:31 am
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:01 pm
SixStrings wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:03 pm Just a gut feel on you being town. Regarding your discussion on being defensive... Although I would agree that defensiveness can be construed as guilty or bad, it could easily be justified in many cases. Yours is one of them. Finally your reasoning seemed to be backed up by a third party in the thread.
pop-in noted
not going to comment on content b/c I don't agree but that probably unimportant
OK, now this makes me feel better about Six, and worse about you. You snipped this out of context, and are kinda misrepresenting what's going on here.

I tagged Six in a specific question, and he is replying to it. Read it context,

SixStrings wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:03 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:01 am
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:29 pm also this is irrelevant but people who are more resistant to being voted actually makes me want to push them more

so um
yeah
Maybe we just have a different approach, becasue I am always resistant to being voted

My very good friend is hosting her first game on this site, and i hope to be here for all of it, not be miselimmed on day one for a vague reason. Also, I was not 100% sure you really believed I was bad based on what *I think* was my reaction to a host post. I am a person who over thinks things and I am trying to be more spontaneous in Mafia games, but I'm not sure that's working out for me,

*Your* name is a good role, I'm not sure I'll ever get used to my name being a bad role, so expect more "um what?" from me in the future.

SixStrings wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:01 pm OK, still pretty new at all this but I will chime in. Seems too early to decide on a vote for wolf, however so far I am convinced S -V- S is town.
This is rather astute of you; may I ask why you think so? The other game we played, Muppets, I was in Crusader Rabbit mode, rather than defense mode, as I am here. And even though i do it myself, being defensive is pretty much generally viewed as kinda scummy. So not sure why you would have this thought.
Just a gut feel on you being town. Regarding your discussion on being defensive... Although I would agree that defensiveness can be construed as guilty or bad, it could easily be justified in many cases. Yours is one of them. Finally your reasoning seemed to be backed up by a third party in the thread.
... this reads more like any one of us answering that little notification bell to me.

Your post, and the way you snipped it, feels like low poster hunting rather than scum hunting.
This is a heavier accusation from S~V~S. I don't see that Lemon ever commented about this.

I did comment on it :/

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:51 pm Two confirmed civilians named here by Lemonfairy

you know I had both at the top of my reads at the end though, right?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:51 pm I don't understand why Lemon suspected S~V~S. I also don't know why a civilian might say "you know what, just don't worry about it."

if you read the entire thing, you'll see I have tried to explain it multiple times and SVS was either not seeing my posts or not understanding and at some point I just gave up and told them to not worry about b/c it wasn't important

and fyi (b/c it looks like you missed my explanation too) I named Syn/SVS/Dennis as a team because Syn asked me who I thought were scum based on what little posts there were on D1 and at that point, only Syn, SVS, Dennis, and myself had posted

so no, it was not a legit suspicion and no, there wasn't a point to it either
and if you read back you'll also see I never tried to push anyone in the team I named after either

oh I forgot to post my list but I was at:

Roxy
Seanzie

Dennis
fingersplints
Matahari

falcon
SixStrings

Epignosis
DrWilgy
Neon

I'm kind of wavering a bit now though and not as sure as I was before on some people

D1 Wagons:

Epignosis: Syn
falcon: Epignosis, fingersplints
Lemonfairy: Neon
Neon: Lemonfairy, Matahari, Roxy
Syn: SVS, Dennis, SixStrings, Seanzie, DrWilgy

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:26 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:09 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:32 am Wow a lot of my saved posts were fluff

I guess everything important was in that first post
wait, Dennis
can you post a reads list for me pls and ty
Not gonna lie I didn't really think much before and Neon is lower than I said when I answered seanzie, but not my first chop

They're not ordered within groups

Lemonfairy
Roxy
DrWilgy

fingersplints
Epignosis
falcon45ca

Neon
SixStrings
Matahari

Seanzie

ty
hmmm can you talk to me on Wilgy, Epi and Seanzie (if you've explained one or more of these, just skip them b/c I have bad memory)

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:18 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:40 pm
SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:39 pm My read list ...

Likely town
Seanzie
Roxy
fingersplints
Neon

Town leaning
Dennis
DrWilgy

Wolf leaning
Epignosis
falcon45ca
Matahari
Lemonfairy
thanks
can you explain fingerspints, Neon, Epignosis, and me pls?
Don't do it Six! It might get you killed!

I doubt it

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:13 pm I still generated a viewpoint from seanzie regarding falcon which I think is valuable.

I mean, I can't really argue that it's not valuable
ig it just felt like you were honing in on it too much? idk

you're also voting Seanzie rn
anyone you suspect outside of Sean/falcon?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:10 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:08 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:55 pm A part of me wishes to applaud the lack of shits given regarding consistency.

Another part is dying to defenestrate you.
do you think this inconsistency is scummy?
I'm conflicted on that, hence what I said.

ah ok
that's fair ig

I mean, hopefully I am active and townread enough this game that even if my reads are bad, I'll still be a good NK

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:09 pm
SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 6:23 pm Ok, as I have established, I am still very new and as such have offered very little dialogue. Though my silence might bring on some suspicion, I have chosen to observe more than comment. I will readily admit I have been wrong more than right so far on my guesses between this game and last.
Here is my question, "what would be the main benefit of commenting on my own suspicions ? It seems if I were correct it would get me killed.
The beauty of this setup is that you don't have a power. You can't save anyone. You can't alignment check anyone. You are vanilla. Your only task is naming your suspects and saying as much as you can about them. Drawing a kill in this setup generally means you've done well.

every time I get NK'd, I think I did well
otherwise my reads are bad and I live until endgame

and I usually live until endgame </3

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:55 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:41 pm pls explain me first lol

and add Mata if you have time
The main reason for my listing you as 'wolf leaning" is that I started with likely town and worked down from there. The town slots are obviously limited so people tricked down into the other categories.

Mata is on the list as leaning toward wolf.

so... why don't you townread me? :c

I meant, if you have time, pls explain why mata is a wolflean but from your answer here it might be you find it easier to explain townreads?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:43 pm I can get the exact information with quotes later when I'm home.

thanks

pls explain me first lol

and add Mata if you have time

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:39 pm My read list ...

Likely town
Seanzie
Roxy
fingersplints
Neon

Town leaning
Dennis
DrWilgy

Wolf leaning
Epignosis
falcon45ca
Matahari
Lemonfairy

thanks
can you explain fingerspints, Neon, Epignosis, and me pls?

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:26 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:13 pm not saying falcon is LHF (was just part of the question)
I hate getting called LHF
What does LHF mean?

low hanging fruit
someone who is easily persuaded

and easy to push as a misexe

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