The Syndicate

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:09 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:07 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:06 pm I popped in because I thought the phase ended sooner. If it’s not Luna then pout I guess but the scum strategy would be confoundingly bold at that point and I’ll be getting lynched ahead of them so
So wait Colin are you saying you popped in because you thought EOD was over?
Yeah, I wanted to see if I was right about Luna.

It just gives me a bad feeling that you wanted to avoid EOD but I'm suspicious of everything these days. It's probably no big deal.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:06 pm I popped in because I thought the phase ended sooner. If it’s not Luna then pout I guess but the scum strategy would be confoundingly bold at that point and I’ll be getting lynched ahead of them so

So wait Colin are you saying you popped in because you thought EOD was over?

I am moving to Luna. I just can't stick with pout since she still isn't here.

Is DH here? DH, are you still convinced it's pout?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:57 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:56 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:55 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:32 pm Go ahead and lynch me if you want but spend some time this phase looking at other people because when I flip town the numbers are going to be significantly less better for the civs than they were an hour ago.
like would scum Colin say this?
my experience is scum would say anything.
so you want to lynch Colin over Pout?

Actually I'm more likely to move to you than Colin.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:55 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:32 pm Go ahead and lynch me if you want but spend some time this phase looking at other people because when I flip town the numbers are going to be significantly less better for the civs than they were an hour ago.
like would scum Colin say this?

my experience is scum would say anything.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:49 pm Even if Luna is town this Pout wagon is a rush lynch and Pout hasn't even been here to defend. It's pretty characteristic of a mislynch.

If we are counterwagoning it really should be Colin.

I'm actually in agreement that it's not a good idea to Lynch someone who is not here to defend. But I don't think I want to change to Colin.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:40 pm But then perhaps Epi targeted you with something n3 since he suspected you and the hippogriff killed him.

Ahhh that is a good explanation Imo.

I'm afraid to go read because I might miss some rationale here.

Eh...Luna I don't think you would have given up if you were scum.

ok I'm in another time zone and unsure when day ends so I'll vote her based on what you guys are saying and then iso her and look at jack's progression on her.

Luna's post re: Jack's point about Colin and Pout is a good find but what are you guys saying the strongest point against Pout is?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:52 pm I have a really important question that everyone should answer

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:17 pm I'm kinda taking for granted here that Epi wasn't killed because Luna or Colin was specifically worried about him. Epi wasn't really making waves in the thread. If I was in Luna or Colin's shoes as scum, I wouldn't be scured enough to kill him.

Is this WIFOM or TMI? In other words, does this post make it look more like Luna or Colin is Jack's teammate or less?

Well my gut read is it's WIFOM, but I could probably be convinced otherwise.

linki

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:01 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:55 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:53 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:49 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:48 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:46 pm I'mma put it this way fam:

If it is Luna I will shit a brick.
Just because of the Sloonei thing or?
There was a 0% chance I was wrong about Jack, there is a 2% maybe maybe maybe chance I'm wrong about Luna. That's yalls beef.
DH, could you say why you see the chances of her being bad as so slim?
Because she outted herself as a cop to stop Sloonei from being lynched lol
Or she pretended to be a cop on a team where another person had already pretended to be a cop in order to gain civ credit.

Yeah that could be. As I said before I am suspicious of the two civ cop angle and I don't suspect poutanko.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:49 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:48 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:46 pm I'mma put it this way fam:

If it is Luna I will shit a brick.
Just because of the Sloonei thing or?
There was a 0% chance I was wrong about Jack, there is a 2% maybe maybe maybe chance I'm wrong about Luna. That's yalls beef.

DH, could you say why you see the chances of her being bad as so slim?

I'm changing my vote to Luna.

This Epi quote is from day 2 before Luna checked him N2. He didn't have a lot to say between this and his death. I know we've already said he suspected her but it kinda hit me in the face in his ISO.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:54 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:25 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:25 pm I changed my vote to Colin for now.
I'm curious as to why, would you share? Also, do you still suspect Lunalee? I don't expect you to answer at night but maybe when Day 3 comes around you would.
I'll answer this tomorrow. I know you are dead, but I'll answer it tomorrow. I'm zonked.

Yes, I suspect Luna. I suspect Luna more than Colin.

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:56 am
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:43 am It's just hard to believe the civs had 2 cops.
You can just say it directly instead of throwing shade like that.

Luna doubted me as cop yet didn't check me.
Doubted my result yet didn't check Colin.
I feel like being purposefully hanged.
And you have no right to throw that shade when you're not the one almost getting lynched D5. I can be polite, Juliet. But I have my limit. If you have problem, say it straight instead of throwing shade like that. I'm done with this bullshit.

I'm afraid you misunderstood. I am having doubts about Luna.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:58 am N1 - Owner/Sloonei TOWN
N2 - Epi TOWN
N3 - used another ability
N4 - DharmaHelper TOWN

These are Luna's first four night actions. N3 Avada Kedavra on ya boy Epi? Probs.

DH have you been roleblocked at all since N4?

Either Luna is lying here or there really is another cop who is bad because the mafia had to divine Glorf night 1 or night 2 to learn he had the Phoenix and then Imperio me on night 3. Is there another way they could have known Glorf had the Phoenix power?

It's just hard to believe the civs had 2 cops.

OK, I'm gone

Night Actions -

N3 - Phoenix
N4 - made a potion
N5 - sent it to DH - you're welcome DH
N6 - made a potion

Is that enough or do you need more?

Ok, Mac anything else before I go to bed? And thanks DH, I couldn't get to it that quick.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:44 am Have you read your role card juliets?

lol yes, I'm just having some fun. It's late and you made my mind overflow by trying to see DH as scum.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:42 am
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:40 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:36 am
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:35 am
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:33 am tfw juliets gets too drunk and outs herself as scum
lol no that was Saturday night.
You outted yourself as Scum on Saturday night?
oops missed this - no, I was drinking wine and on discord - I wasn't talking about the game, I was talking about wine.
Classic scumslip right here

Maybe, but not likely

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:36 am
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:35 am
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:33 am tfw juliets gets too drunk and outs herself as scum
lol no that was Saturday night.
You outted yourself as Scum on Saturday night?

oops missed this - no, I was drinking wine and on discord - I wasn't talking about the game, I was talking about wine.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:36 am
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:35 am
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:33 am tfw juliets gets too drunk and outs herself as scum
lol no that was Saturday night.
Tell me this happened.

well I wasn't drunk but I was drinking a good bit of wine on discord

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:33 am tfw juliets gets too drunk and outs herself as scum

lol no that was Saturday night.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:29 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:28 am Is DH the only one we don't know the abilities of?
IDK good question.

No, I haven't said anything about my abilities other than the Phoenix.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:23 am I believe that Poutanko is civ because she is evidenced as being WRONG with her cop claim. Mafia do not let this happen. Way too bold.

I believe Luna is a civilian because she has been skeptical of things in a civ way. She has not shown evidence of TMI and her claim is bold.

I believe nutella is a civ because she has shown civilian tendency to backflip on her own points and we have mindmelded a fair bit.

Colin is playing like a townie trapped in POE but he has a green peek too which is more than can be said for several others.

Juliets ... we are going back to the Glorfindel near lynch resulting in a scum lynch instead right? It's pretty goofy reasoning for excluding her from POE.

DharmaHelper has led the town on two lynches and has a green peek. He is also incredulous and dismissive in his townie way.

I think we're going back to Glorfs claim that he was town, which may be stronger evidence than his being a near lynch in a scum lynch. Though this could be the one time he lied

.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:17 am Look all fun and jokes aside I know it's super hard for Mac to think that a civilian knows how to play this game and is good at it so I'm gonna cut him some slack.

What's so ironic is if he's right, you are a very smart and gutsy player which is what you are saying about your civilian play.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:03 pm I'm here but juliets has been saucy recently and I don't wanna make her mad at me lol

lolol - I was just in a mood.

Naturally, I'm here when no one else is.

Also, I thought I read that [mention]poutanko[/mention] nko also didn't trust her Colin check but I notice she is not voting for him. Pout is it true that you don't trust that check?

Sorry, we've been driving through the state of Alabama today to our next stop.

I have held out on Colin all this time because of pout's check and the fact that it doesn't seem reasonable that pout had two bad checks. But with nutella, Mac and DH all agreeing - and I think they are all town - I guess I have to give up clinging to that piece of information. I'll go ahead and vote there now. Did Colin say he wasn't going to be around today?

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] I'd love to hear your thoughts after the latest kill. Or did you give them already?

poutanko wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:13 pm Sorry....I thought it's just a cute emoji. It's not meant in serious way ._.

It's morning here, other players (I think mostly live on the other side of the globe) might be busy or sleeping

Ok thanks Pout. I was just in a mood last night. And it was 8pm eastern standard time when I posted so I expected there would be people around. Most posting seems to happen after I go to ed though.

Ok on to figure out who's bad.

Everyone here is dead except for pout.

poutanko wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:56 pm @juliets I considered you 2 because it could be that Jack was convincing enough to get people to vote me that his team mate may not be the one on my wagon. You and MacD were on neutral ground that time. You were present but didn't vote any of us. MacD was sleeping I think? Didn't mention you yesterday because Glorf truth meta. I did wonder about MacD but Timmer said he's sure he's Town implying a mechanic check.

I think maybe you missed the fact that though I was present at the very last minute I had not read any of DH's logic for voting Jack. I didn't realize Jack had claimed cop to DH, I didn't know anything that was going on except that both he and Jack were asking me to vote for different people. I don't move my vote just because someone asks me to. I might have well been asleep with Mac - well not with him with him but with him in different countries. Anyway, it really makes no difference. I shook my fist at Epi because I was kidding with him and then I shook my fist at the mafia because they stole my Phoenix. My perception is you shook your fist at me because I didn't understand what you were saying. Please don't do it again, its not necessary.

poutanko wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:47 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:43 pm
poutanko wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:42 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:24 pm an nobody would have started suspecting Jack if I had not said anything.
uh no...it's DH who called him out. Not you or anybody.

I still think it's between Luna and Colin. DH switched the lynch direction when it's only like less than 2 hours(?) left with the last vote from Nutella that decided the lynch being very close to the vote lock. Don't think Jack's team mate would have the time to think of a tactic to counter that (or changed the vote) without looking suspicious. I did consider player who didn't vote (Juliet) and player who was not present (MacD). Juliet has Glorf truth meta while MacD was vouched by Timmer. He even put MacD higher than DH. Those 2 should be cleared. Colin checked green so
[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine
But I did vote, just not for Jack.
...was talking about the stance between Jack wagon and mine

I'm not sure why you are shaking your fist at me. I didn't vote for you either, I voted sprityo and then was out of the thread all day Friday. I came back and had a message from DH to vote jack and a message from jack to vote you. I didn't have enough time to consider either.

poutanko wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:42 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:24 pm an nobody would have started suspecting Jack if I had not said anything.
uh no...it's DH who called him out. Not you or anybody.

I still think it's between Luna and Colin. DH switched the lynch direction when it's only like less than 2 hours(?) left with the last vote from Nutella that decided the lynch being very close to the vote lock. Don't think Jack's team mate would have the time to think of a tactic to counter that (or changed the vote) without looking suspicious. I did consider player who didn't vote (Juliet) and player who was not present (MacD). Juliet has Glorf truth meta while MacD was vouched by Timmer. He even put MacD higher than DH. Those 2 should be cleared. Colin checked green so
[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

But I did vote, just not for Jack.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:36 pm I personally think its Colin but what the hell do I know.

The only thing that stops me on Colin is that civ cop check that pout got.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:26 pm Like, doesn't anyone else besides me think it's really funny that she checked Epi and the next night he died? And checking Epi makes much more sense as scum with the motivation to learn his abilities and see if he posed a threat to them than as town because he wasn't really under any suspicion.

hmm...I was definitely bothered by what seemed like randomness of the Epi kill - I just didn't see any reason to kill him over some of the suptown peeps.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:51 pm Does 1 kill mean Quin was a vig?

My theory was he was the other vig and vigged Long Con and that's why speed saw him there. I think he lied about his actions to cover that he was the other vig.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:16 pm You should read. They vouched for each other mechanically and I think I might understand what they are hinting at. (Plus Mac was already my strongest townread so this just solidified that)

Ok thanks I will read it.

Also, thanks on the night end time.

And does anyone know when night ends?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:00 pm I think night is almost over so legacy posting in case I die. I think we need to seriously consider the angle that DH may have fooled us all. I still think Luna or Colin is more likely the last scum and would go for them first, but I don't want to continue giving DH a pass. My order looks like this right now:

Luna
Colin
DH
poutanko
juliets
timmer
Mac

Yes imo mac (and thus according to him 95% timmer) is more confirmed town than juliets. But I'm pretty sure the scum is in the first three. Mayyybe poutanko but I don't really have a case for her.

Finally, barring further shenanigans, I nullified DH's vote for day 7. May have been a poor choice, but using my other ability felt too much like it could backfire on me and I wanted to do something more or less safe.

Maybe I won't die, but with the prevalence of diricawls and other such madness I'm paranoid. But I'm also kind of hoping someone vigs Luna or Colin and we get lucky. If one of them dies and flips town, definitely just go ahead and lynch the other. If it's between them... we should do more research and carefully consider everything because there are points in both of their favor and points against them both. But my main word of advice is that if we don't find scum in either of them to not let DH slide by without further scrutiny. I know it feels like we've had this game in the bag for a while but we can't get cocky or we're susceptible to... well, a long con. Keep up the good fight, town.

I agree with you except I don't know how Mac got to the top of your list (and therefore timmer). Did you explain this already and I just missed it because I didn't read all of yesterday?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:35 am But seriously, Juliets is my actual packmate.

my name is spelled with a little "j"

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:55 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:06 pm oh no, I see it wasn't sprityo. RIP sprit, see you in the next game.

So I don't know who it is, right now I'm not even leaning anyone's direction. And I'm tired, it was a grueling day on the road. So maybe tomorrow I can figure something out. If it's DH or nutella...
Hey Juliets can you do me a huge favor

if Glorf bailed on his mafia team can you just say that. It would mean literally the whole world to me.

No, Glorf did not bail on his mafia team, lol. He alignment claimed town. Sorry.

oh no, I see it wasn't sprityo. RIP sprit, see you in the next game.

So I don't know who it is, right now I'm not even leaning anyone's direction. And I'm tired, it was a grueling day on the road. So maybe tomorrow I can figure something out. If it's DH or nutella...

Ok, I'm about to leave and won't be back until after EOD. I'm just going to leave my vote where it is and if something happens and everyone decides t move their vote mine won't do any harm where it is. I'll be back on tonight.

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:20 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:06 pm
I get that mac looks town, but who's bad then?
I'll try to rank (I generally hate rainbow lists etc.)

In order of badness

1. Sprityo
2. Colin

big gap

3. poutanko

gap

4. nutella
5. juliets 2.0

big gap

6. Luna
7. DH
8. Mac

So you think there is a big gap between me and the top of your list? Coolio.

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