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- Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:22 am
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Good night, everybody.
- Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:14 am
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Also, I don't really know what Mac was trying to say about the comment on JJJ, and I don't really care to go back, but it was way off. When I said "I would also say the same about JaggedJimmyJay", I was referring to "He is usually one of the more active people who tries to get stuff going", not " I'm not really seeing him trying to get any meaningful discussion going so I have to be suspicious.". And I'm sorry as fuck for trying to make a funny with the Schrodinger's Player thing, don't worry, you won't be seeing anything like that again anytime soon.
- Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:09 am
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It's not a real read, Drago. It's made-up to try and spur on conversation in a dead thread.Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:56 amWhile yes, I did do a false dichotomy with presenting only two options when there could be more, what is wrong with what you're doing is how you're dismissing the entire post as a fallacy even though only a part of it was. The entire reason for why I scum read you wasn't a fallacy but you keenly ignored having to explain yourself against me. If I must stress again, how does Sloonei not opening this game the say way he did in a previous game make him scum when many ppl never open the same way as well? I certainly didn't open the same way as in a previous game, you didn't either as this is the first game I've played with you where you voted for someone in your first post. So why were you being a hypocrite LC?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:52 amFalse dichotomy.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:47 amHave you know counters to my points about you?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:45 amI haven't felt like myself lately...speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:34 am Assassin's creed has people in the modern day going into a matrix-like thing and reliving the lives of assassins of the past to gain skillz.
Maybe nutella and JJJ are like a templar and an assassin from the future and they're in our heads right now, living our lives, making our posts.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:29 pm
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Shit, I just got what you guys are talking about. I posted something about being scholarly the next day while I was drunk. I guess I missed the bar on that. Maybe don't take things like that so literally next time, and you won't have disappointingly high expectations.tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:14 pmThat post of mine didn’t give me a reason to vote him. I was criticising his inquiry more.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:17 pm
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I was explaining it to the thread, quoting Turnip Head was simply to show what I was talking about.Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:50 pmThis is true.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:45 pmThis is just blatantly not true. It's something I have done many times in the past, mostly due to the "you-die-you-don't-win" rule we used to go by around here... when you have to survive to win, you learn to not look TOO Civvish. I still hold the lessons dear to my heart, because dying sucks either way, and if you want to survive the night, the baddies have to believe you can be lynched.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
There is no reason you should have to explain this to Turnip Head. TH was around during that time.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:23 pm
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ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:19 pmFunnygurl is right on Long Con, they seem to be promising quite a bit and giving quite little.
Fake news.
I don't even know the guy.Turnip Head claims to have a solid meta read on Long Con and also does not like them.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:54 pm
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Don't wait up!Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:53 pmight, see you laterLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:52 pmI dunno. I'm going out for a bit.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 pm lc you have vote on turnip head. would you consider voting anyone else atm? who's catching your fancy?
gotta town circle forming? what do you think about me?
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:52 pm
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I dunno. I'm going out for a bit.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 pm lc you have vote on turnip head. would you consider voting anyone else atm? who's catching your fancy?
gotta town circle forming? what do you think about me?
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:47 pm
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Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:44 pmbecause of something you've said in thread apologizing for not playing much but having something to give
I too am on mobile. no I didn't suggest that I know your playstyle
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:46 pm
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Yes, right here.ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:38 pmDid you ever get back to me on a satisfactory breakdown of the false dichotomy? I may have missed some of the thread somehow.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:37 pmI would like to see these posts as well.ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:34 pmCan you quote some posts that highlight this difference, for those of us who aren't familiar with them?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:43 pm
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Because I always just play how I play, I don't try to play differently, or the same, I just do whatever comes to mind. I thought I'd see what Drago was saying about you held up, but it was really just a trap he was setting, and I was the idiot who fell for it. After I said I don't dance. Shameful.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:39 pmWhy?Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:37 pmI would like to see these posts as well.ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:34 pmCan you quote some posts that highlight this difference, for those of us who aren't familiar with them?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:37 pm
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I would like to see these posts as well.ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:34 pmCan you quote some posts that highlight this difference, for those of us who aren't familiar with them?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:33 pm
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I don't understand anything anyone is saying about me. Normally I love being talked about, but you guys have some dark imaginations. How does FunnyGurl even have an expectation about how I play?
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:27 pm
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- Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:19 pm
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- Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:26 pm
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- Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:02 pm
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- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:59 pm
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My Sloonei vote is super-stale at this point. I'm going to switch to TH. [VOTE:
Turnip Head] aubergine
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:58 pm
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Ok, Drago. I agree with your assessment of TH. This is garbaggio.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:36 amWhich one do you think I meant? If you had to guess
More of the same empty observationals.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:36 am Epi is bringing an unnecessarily hostile tone to an otherwise reasonable thread, idk what that means really just an observation
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:56 pm
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Debatable.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:35 pmCare to elaborate? I'm actually pretty good at reading him, probably the best at it, if I'm being honest
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:54 pm
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I think this is a town lean on Mikey. I could also picture TH saying "I didn't say I thought he was town for it, I just said I liked it!"Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:57 pm What I am seeing from Mikey is a little bit of between the lines solving which I very much like
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:53 pm
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Well, it wasn't about consolidating votes, it was about Drago getting more player interactions to work with.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:50 pmThat, and I also see no reason to consolidate votes at this time. We have more than 24 hours left.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:52 pm
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On one hand, I completely 100% agree with TH's post here. Love the sentiment, I think he's right about this game.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:52 pmThe status of the game is looking really really good. I think you and me and the others are going to have a great time playing this game. Not every game of mafia ends up becoming a classic but I think this one's gonna be goodMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:37 pm @Turnip Head let me gaze into your mind. I'd like you to write three sentences with a minimum of ten words each about the status of the game. Chop chop young man.
On the other hand, this is a dismal failure to engage Mac's request on any level that progresses the game/reads/communication at all. Totally sucky.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:49 pm
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I floated the idea that Sloon and Mikey are w/w on little more than a whim, and it's pretty unexpected to see TH engaging with it so much, especially after his initial mocking disbelief.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:15 pm Like if the idea was for Sloonei to get involved re: mechanics and then for Mikey to engage him, and then for them to one up each other ad infinitum
Golden and I actually did that in Firefly mafia and neither of us got lynched
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:46 pm
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Twenty minutes after declaring Sloon to be a town read. Why did this 180 happen?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:14 pm I started the day more likely to vote Mikey and now I'm thinking of voting for Sloonei. It's not hard to view Sloonei's behavior through the lens where he's bad
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:45 pm
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This is just blatantly not true. It's something I have done many times in the past, mostly due to the "you-die-you-don't-win" rule we used to go by around here... when you have to survive to win, you learn to not look TOO Civvish. I still hold the lessons dear to my heart, because dying sucks either way, and if you want to survive the night, the baddies have to believe you can be lynched.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:42 pm
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I don't usually feel like responding to demands on my playstyle. I play how I play, mostly slow/light touch in the first few days, then drive hard when I find something I really believe in. I don't like to dance on command.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:41 pm
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Starts out strong, then waffles out in the home-stretch. Lack of assertive reads strikes again.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:54 pm @ts account It's not impossible for me to view Sloon as bad actually, I just like how fired up he got after he was called out. He got real defensive real quick which I associate with town sloon. Not sure if I should see it like that or if I just don't want him to be bad for whatever reason.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:38 pm
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This, I don't mind, but it doesn't really advance the scum hunt too much... I can't tell from this post if TH thinks it makes Mikey town or wolf.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:42 pmI feel like you're talking about yourself. You don't seem interested in pursuing anything other than Sloonei being scum which has snowballed from the beginning of the gamets account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:54 pmYou do not seem interested in pursuing these other possibilities, therefore you do not seem interested in truly scumhunting.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:28 pm @ts account right off the bat 2.0, yeah, I am spinning everything negatively. That is the point of the exercise. It's not a nefarious agenda. When I make a case like that, I am asking myself whether or not I can see the player as mafia in each post. If the answer is yes, I share my interpretation of their possible mafia motives. That is what I did with your posts. I acknowledged in the post that there are other explanations. But I have concerns and I voiced them.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:35 pm
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I responded with a GIF to this... if it was a real criticism, it was easily quelled.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:34 pm
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- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:33 pm
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This post makes me feel grey. So tentative, that second sentence. Such a tiny prod, this barely even merits a response from Mikey. Does he follow up on this suspicion?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:52 amYou could argue in a post-modern mafia setting that going after someone for mechanics talk is the new low hanging fruit. I don't think your suspicion of sloonei for this looks particularly genuine. It's an easy suspicion to fake early and you haven't really let it go, like you're afraid what it would look like if you backed down herets account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:15 amThere exists somewhere a big imaginary book of mafia. When players are good enough, they get a chance to write a chapter of the book. In some footnotes, you will find clear references to mechanical discussion being a scumtell. I do not know what to tell you beyond this. I am not the one who decides what are and aren't considered scumtells, though I do have a few scumtells of my own that I have not seen other players share.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:09 am I could use the same logic against you. You have only played a fraction of the amount of mafia games that exist so you can't truly know that mechanical talk is widely considered a scumtell. It might have been from the games you've played but not the many others have.
So basically, trying to say that mechanical talk is a scumtell is bullshit. It's not a universal opinion. I want you to explain to me what really makes mechanical talk a bad thing.
Generally, scum (moreso bad scum than good scum) will struggle to generate content. This is the closest thing you can get to objective in mafia- sort by postcount will almost always win more games than any individual player's reads, it has been tested. As a result of this, scum (moreso bad scum than good scum) will latch onto low-hanging talking points. In mystery games especially, mechanical discussion is inevitable from any alignment, but scum (moreso bad scum than good scum) are happy to engage in this discourse, as it means they don't have to provide fake content.
Happy?
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:27 pm
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This is identical to leetic's accusation of Dragomir. Did they both sheep Sloonei? Is Sloonei the sun in the sky?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:59 am Ts latching onto sloon for discussing mechanics felt a bit opportunist and now that they're actually discussing reads he's sinking his teeth in deeper
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:25 pm
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Town read on Sloonei. Complimentary. Possible buddying attempt.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:57 am Sloonei is some sort of hybrid Golden-JJJ monstrosity right now, is this his final form? He just played a dastardly villain in GoC so now he might be supatowning hard
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:24 pm
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First 4 of 33 posts are fluff.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:22 pm
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- Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:25 pm
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Nah. You'll find out what I have to say when I say it.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:11 pm @Long Con I saw your posts about how good Leetic was which is fine and dandy and all but tell me this: what do you plan on doing with this town read on Leetic and your fat explanation for it? Are you simply just putting it out there so ppl know you got reads or are you trying to persuade others from not lynching Leetic? Right now it feels like the former is the case.
A second question for you? Have you showed us your scum reads? If not, could you give me them?
A question to all, does anybody feel like Turnip is bad? He's not good to me.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:42 pm
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Weird flex, since I actually just started looking harder at this game, but ok.ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:13 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine I would like to hear a lot more from you.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:43 pm
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I did start this while drinking last night. Maybe I was overly generous with the +2's, but I still would give +1's for them... or maybe a +1, then a +2 for the second post because a wolf could be satisfied with the optics of the first post, but a civilian who believes in what they're doing pushes more with a second.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:27 pmI think you're being a bit generous in giving out your +s. E.g. his opener was okay, but +2? That's an opening post a wolf could definitely make. And with the last couple posts, I actually felt leetic's insistence that Drago come up with reads on me/Ted was a bit contrived - Drago had explained he wasn't going to and didn't need to, and leetic tried to make it sound like that was unthinkable, which I don't think it is.
I didn't read the Drago thing that way at all. "Drago had explained he wasn't going to and didn't need to"... that sounds really reasonable, more reasonable than "what, you want random thoughts out of thin air??" deserves. And I disagree that leetic implied it was UNTHINKABLE, he just said "they should at least be able to make you feel something about them" because they had enough posts.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:25 pm
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leetic cont'd...
Post 9, follow-up thoughts on Dragomir's bristly rebuke of leetic's suggestion that he could share some original thoughts. 0 (7)
Post 10 leetic challenges the "growing LC wagon" because no one was defending me. If leetic were bad, then he should have no problem at all with a growing town lynch. This looks very good, and I'm fine with the TMI bias I'm obviously showing. +2 (9)
Post 11 I don't really understand what tedxtr is saying here, I don't know the term "town blocking". leetic's response I don't get either... where is the monopolization of discussion happening? 0 (9)
Post 12 to clarify to Sloonei the Post 10 position on the LC votes. Casts some suspicion on speedchuck, but I don't really like the word "opportunistic" all that much. It's a big word that's pretty easy to throw around to put suspicion on people, and it's one I've used as a wolf in fake cases before. leetic says it twice here. -1 (8)
Post 13 again with the "opportunistic", and there's an "interesting" in there to boot. Dislike. -1 (7)
Post 14 is meh. Not too solvey, definition discussion and slight prod. 0 (7)
Post 15 was directed at me, asking my opinions on Mikey-Sloonei. Pretty basic. 0 (7)
Post 16 Drago and leetic snapping at each other a little, and it looks genuine to me, in that I don't think they are w/w. Drago's criticism is valid; two votes doesn't really make for wariness of a growing wagon. The "taken out of context" thing is weak. -1 (6)
Still well in the positives, a town lean at this point on leetic.
Post 9, follow-up thoughts on Dragomir's bristly rebuke of leetic's suggestion that he could share some original thoughts. 0 (7)
Post 10 leetic challenges the "growing LC wagon" because no one was defending me. If leetic were bad, then he should have no problem at all with a growing town lynch. This looks very good, and I'm fine with the TMI bias I'm obviously showing. +2 (9)
Post 11 I don't really understand what tedxtr is saying here, I don't know the term "town blocking". leetic's response I don't get either... where is the monopolization of discussion happening? 0 (9)
Post 12 to clarify to Sloonei the Post 10 position on the LC votes. Casts some suspicion on speedchuck, but I don't really like the word "opportunistic" all that much. It's a big word that's pretty easy to throw around to put suspicion on people, and it's one I've used as a wolf in fake cases before. leetic says it twice here. -1 (8)
Post 13 again with the "opportunistic", and there's an "interesting" in there to boot. Dislike. -1 (7)
Post 14 is meh. Not too solvey, definition discussion and slight prod. 0 (7)
Post 15 was directed at me, asking my opinions on Mikey-Sloonei. Pretty basic. 0 (7)
Post 16 Drago and leetic snapping at each other a little, and it looks genuine to me, in that I don't think they are w/w. Drago's criticism is valid; two votes doesn't really make for wariness of a growing wagon. The "taken out of context" thing is weak. -1 (6)
Still well in the positives, a town lean at this point on leetic.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:54 am
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So, leetic... I'll do this like counting cards in Blackjack. Start at 0, +value for towny, -value for wolfy.
First post (beyond guitar vid) is criticising the level of Day 1 activity in the thread. A valid criticism, we were 7 hours into Day 1, and not one player had tried to get serious. I liked this opener. +2 (2)
Second post votes Sloonei for having three posts, 100% dedicated to setup speculation. 4 hours AFTER telling the thread to get going, with still no serious responses. I liked this as well, which is why I decided to double down the vote. +2 (4)
Third post is a little sketchy. It's nice to see the genesis of the Mikey-Sloonei thing, but leetic's calling Mikey's post "weird" doesn't check out, because Mikey isn't "calling out Sloonei for setup speculation", he's criticising Sloonei's speculation with a hypothetcal designed to reveal the pointlessness of Sloonei's discussion. -1 (3)
Post 4:
THEN leetic responds to Mikey... but in third person, like he's presenting Mikey's post to everyone else rather than responding to it. Also just weird, I don't really like that he specifically disengaged from the conversation, but it makes them look less than teammate-compatible, so there's that. Vote switch does please me, and makes sense, if Mikey's departure from previous town behaviour is accurate, it's a better reason to vote than Sloonei's speculation. +0 (3)... -1 for ts account.
Post 5 continues the meatiness that I am so far liking in leetic's posts. The "pocketing" discussion so far is just randomly generated by Mikey, and leetic's response to his pressing on the subject is the right response to the odd curveball.
Suspicion of tedxtr's early towncore feels good.
Radishes calls leetic out on the casual (too casual?) talk, leetic gives a reasonable response. Maybe Radishes is right, I wouldn't have noticed such a thing if he hadn't pointed it out. Slight minus on this post's score, a la Radish.
The tedxtr interactions, I don't agree with tedxtr's criticism of leetic's... whole game so far, I guess. +1 (4)
Post 6 leetic gives a list of reads with some explanation. Looks like genuine solving. +1 (5)
Post 7 Dragomir responded negatively to leetic's assessment that he was just sheeping Sloonei with no original thoughts. Dragomir's reaction to the accusation was mild defensive hostility, which is a -1 for him, and leetic's reply was a reasonable explanation and a prod toward fixing the apparent problem. Dragomir would have looked better if he had given original thoughts instead of just bristling at leetic's observation. +1 again for leetic (6)
Post 8 Dragomir doubles down on the idea that leetic is prodding him to "create random thoughts out of thin air so [he] could be original". Like, where do thoughts come from usually? Amazon? You have to, like, think about things to get thoughts. leetic shames Dragomir and casts a vote that I judge to be valid. +1 (7) Is leetic still in the lead for votes? He looks really town so far, where are the suspicions coming from?
First post (beyond guitar vid) is criticising the level of Day 1 activity in the thread. A valid criticism, we were 7 hours into Day 1, and not one player had tried to get serious. I liked this opener. +2 (2)
Second post votes Sloonei for having three posts, 100% dedicated to setup speculation. 4 hours AFTER telling the thread to get going, with still no serious responses. I liked this as well, which is why I decided to double down the vote. +2 (4)
Third post is a little sketchy. It's nice to see the genesis of the Mikey-Sloonei thing, but leetic's calling Mikey's post "weird" doesn't check out, because Mikey isn't "calling out Sloonei for setup speculation", he's criticising Sloonei's speculation with a hypothetcal designed to reveal the pointlessness of Sloonei's discussion. -1 (3)
Post 4:
I quoted this one because Mikey's post is something I don't really understand. I don't see how that is, in any way, a response to leetic's question. It's a really weird response.leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:13 amMikey's behavior is weird, last game when he was town he wasn't going after the people doing setup speculation despite the fact that there was a lot going on. And what's with this business about pocketing, like of course I'm not going to discount the possibility of someone being scum just because they townread me. Now I'm voting Mikey for this reason.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:57 amI would like to know from you. Are you worried about me pocketing you?
THEN leetic responds to Mikey... but in third person, like he's presenting Mikey's post to everyone else rather than responding to it. Also just weird, I don't really like that he specifically disengaged from the conversation, but it makes them look less than teammate-compatible, so there's that. Vote switch does please me, and makes sense, if Mikey's departure from previous town behaviour is accurate, it's a better reason to vote than Sloonei's speculation. +0 (3)... -1 for ts account.
Post 5 continues the meatiness that I am so far liking in leetic's posts. The "pocketing" discussion so far is just randomly generated by Mikey, and leetic's response to his pressing on the subject is the right response to the odd curveball.
Suspicion of tedxtr's early towncore feels good.
Radishes calls leetic out on the casual (too casual?) talk, leetic gives a reasonable response. Maybe Radishes is right, I wouldn't have noticed such a thing if he hadn't pointed it out. Slight minus on this post's score, a la Radish.
The tedxtr interactions, I don't agree with tedxtr's criticism of leetic's... whole game so far, I guess. +1 (4)
Post 6 leetic gives a list of reads with some explanation. Looks like genuine solving. +1 (5)
Post 7 Dragomir responded negatively to leetic's assessment that he was just sheeping Sloonei with no original thoughts. Dragomir's reaction to the accusation was mild defensive hostility, which is a -1 for him, and leetic's reply was a reasonable explanation and a prod toward fixing the apparent problem. Dragomir would have looked better if he had given original thoughts instead of just bristling at leetic's observation. +1 again for leetic (6)
Post 8 Dragomir doubles down on the idea that leetic is prodding him to "create random thoughts out of thin air so [he] could be original". Like, where do thoughts come from usually? Amazon? You have to, like, think about things to get thoughts. leetic shames Dragomir and casts a vote that I judge to be valid. +1 (7) Is leetic still in the lead for votes? He looks really town so far, where are the suspicions coming from?
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:52 am
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Ok, you're right. It's an in-depth, post-by-post leetic look. I'll do partials.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:39 amLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:36 amNo, I just sat back down and I'm going to continue.
If it's really long I'm gonna skim it.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:37 am
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I hope it doesn't mean he's a jerk.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:36 am Epi is bringing an unnecessarily hostile tone to an otherwise reasonable thread, idk what that means really just an observation
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:36 am
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No, I just sat back down and I'm going to continue.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:20 am
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Started getting some analysis done from many pages ago... but it's 4:19 am here, so I decided to Save Draft rather than post a partial. I know I haven't been prolific yet, but I'm going to try and fix that and sort some things out. Good night.
- Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:47 pm
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Dragomir presented only two possible reasons why I did my Sloonei vote: lazy town or lazy mafia. Neither of them match the reality of my vote.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:45 pmHi there, I want you to elaborate on that false dichotomy you pointed out.
Going back to my Dominion game with my wife, I'll be back on later.
- Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:46 pm
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Again, not my strategy, just haven't put the time in yet.leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:21 pm Of the thirteen people in the thread, I feel like Epi, speed and TSP have been the most under the radar (LC too, but he has been brought up by many people so if that was his strategy it failed). Not sure about TSP since I have never played with him but Epi and speed are typically a lot more vocal and seeing only their comparatively minor contributions to the game seems weird.
- Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:44 pm
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It's just a remnant by now, of a vote cast in a boring thread. Don't consider it to mean he's my top suspect... I put more focus in my other game today due to the 72-hour days in this one, and I need to get back in here and play.