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by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:18 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Inawordyes wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:04 am Creature
Dennis
ender
golden
iawy
sig

now humouring viable towncases on the above slots
I’ll throw out the obvious towncase on me, one that you should be well-aware of by this point

The fact that people think I’m mafia on D1 makes me town. You know as well as I do that I am hyper-aware on D1 of how people come across, and I specifically look for people who are blending and know how to be active and engaged enough to beat the filter. I can’t think of a single scumrand game I’ve played in the last 1-2 years where I was scumread D1 by the majority of the players who expressed reads on me

I don’t really care to look town as town because I know I’m town and I will express myself honestly (which people just naturally distrust me when I’m telling the truth, go figure), so my meta has basically become that if you think I’m town on D1, I’m probably mafia, and if you think I’m mafia on D1, I’m probably town
I believe this self-meta IAWY described, but also I don't feel like he's actually offering anything in his ISO that people would describe him as "naturally distrust me when I’m telling the truth", so in that sense I don't think he falls into that self-described meta. Even the hot take he posted in P#1726 isn't really a hot take, in that HK falls on the shortlist of players that is often chopped Day 1, and sussing him isn't out of the ordinary. If IAWY is a wolf, HK is probably town.

I can see IAWY being overwhelmed-by-content town, but I don't even think that's AI.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:09 pm
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Topic: Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Golden wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:05 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:04 pm
Golden wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:03 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:01 pm
Golden wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:59 pm Ok the ‘don’t elim me while on vacay’ isn’t great lol
Can you respond to me?
Hi Sean. Did you have something more specific in mind?
Yeah, I'd like to hear your thoughts on IAWY. You seem to want to talk about how you don't like the Cape wagon, but don't seem to want to talk about the counterwagon.
My vibe on iawy is that he’s town, but I’d vote for him before cape, but I ain’t gonna further there risk of a tie.
If you could start a viable wagon somewhere else, where would it be?
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:06 pm
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Topic: Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

nutella wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:03 pm
Alison wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:59 pm Ender is a coinflip (to me, maybe he posted while I was sleeping)
He became super towny overnight I recommend iso
Yeah I agree with this.

I don't remember when he did it, but had some better progressions on his initially bad reads.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:00 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Golden wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:52 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:51 pm
Urist wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:49 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:48 pm
Urist wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:33 pm Voters: RondoDimBuckle, Le petit poussin, Kate, nutella, Urist, Alison, EnderWiggin, Michelle

Literally every one of the cape voters are town holy heckin darn
Which actually doesn't mean Cape is mafia. If cape is mafia, I'd expect mafia to bus. I should probably not expect a thing.
Actually true. But like I said, hiiighly unlikely that all the people in those 8 are town.
Yeah, it was more of a theoretical argument =P

Also, I think wagon compositions are much more random than they often are read as
100%. People jumping on wagons because they like the wagon composition is wolf-siding nonsense.
I disagree. I mean, if that's the sole reason, sure it's a little more sus in the event the wagon flips town, but it's a useful contributing factor among other things in making a vote.

I played a game last year where I refused to vote a wagon on Day 1 because I didn't have an informed opinion on the player in question, even though I trusted every single player on the wagon. Instead, I voted the counterwagon who I suspected. The first wagon ended up flipping wolf.


I guess my point is, I think it's important to also find other players you trust and weigh that into your calculations. Mafia isn't a FPS.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:47 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:43 pm
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:40 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:36 pm
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:30 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:27 pm
S~V~S wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:24 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:12 pm 112 killed the thread lol
My HS French is obvs woefully inadequate; earlier in a post I translated your name as Little Fish, when it is very clearly Little Chicken. Sorry bout that.

Just got back from groceries.

Has anyone been able to adequately answer my question, why is Dennis suspicious?

What is the case on IAWY? Is there one or is it just "He's sketch"?

I see we have a tie.

TIES ARE DECIDED BY THE MAFIA. It's in the rules! Plz don't do this.

We should look on people forcing ties with disfavor.

It's a weird rule I've never heard of before, I guess Nanook hates ties.
I voted IAWY because I wanted to make it a tie. Looking at their ISO afterwards, there was like one post and a spice girls reference that gave me pause, but I left it preferring IAWY to Cape.
Why'd you want to make it a tie?

I have a guess, but I want to hear your reasoning.
Spiciness:
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(WARNING: this post is from a DIFFERENT GAME)
Marmot wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:53 pm [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

There's your spiciness sean.

Ok

Why are you quoting me from two years ago lol. And why did I think that MR was a spicy vote?!
That was from my first game ever on TS. We were town together and took down Epi, Made and LC. That was near EoD1 when I was saying that I wish I had the power to tie it to inject tension into the thread. You humored me. MR was a spicy vote because it created a tie.

(I do like spicy radishes, I actually just ate some daikon with my lunch)

Fair. I might be projecting my anti-tie rhetoric a little strongly, but I figured something like this is what you intended to do when you made the tie.

As long as it doesn't end in a tie.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:44 pm
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Topic: Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Sabiplz wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:24 pm OK my vote is stale and hk can be dealt with later so I'm moving to iawy since I don't like the Dennis and Cape wagons at all.
Do you have take on IAWY other than this? I looked through your ISO and couldn't find much chatter on him.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:42 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

[VOTE: Cape] aubergine for now
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:40 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:36 pm
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:30 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:27 pm
S~V~S wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:24 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:12 pm 112 killed the thread lol
My HS French is obvs woefully inadequate; earlier in a post I translated your name as Little Fish, when it is very clearly Little Chicken. Sorry bout that.

Just got back from groceries.

Has anyone been able to adequately answer my question, why is Dennis suspicious?

What is the case on IAWY? Is there one or is it just "He's sketch"?

I see we have a tie.

TIES ARE DECIDED BY THE MAFIA. It's in the rules! Plz don't do this.

We should look on people forcing ties with disfavor.

It's a weird rule I've never heard of before, I guess Nanook hates ties.
I voted IAWY because I wanted to make it a tie. Looking at their ISO afterwards, there was like one post and a spice girls reference that gave me pause, but I left it preferring IAWY to Cape.
Why'd you want to make it a tie?

I have a guess, but I want to hear your reasoning.
Spiciness:
Spoiler: show
(WARNING: this post is from a DIFFERENT GAME)
Marmot wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:53 pm [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

There's your spiciness sean.

Ok

Why are you quoting me from two years ago lol. And why did I think that MR was a spicy vote?!
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:36 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Urist wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:33 pm Voters: RondoDimBuckle, Le petit poussin, Kate, nutella, Urist, Alison, EnderWiggin, Michelle

Literally every one of the cape voters are town holy heckin darn
+1
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:35 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

I have slight TRs on MR and Sabi, but aside from that, I don't feel good about the rest of the IAWY wagon.

@Sabiplz @Master Radishes why are you voting IAWY rn?
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:30 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:27 pm
S~V~S wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:24 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:12 pm 112 killed the thread lol
My HS French is obvs woefully inadequate; earlier in a post I translated your name as Little Fish, when it is very clearly Little Chicken. Sorry bout that.

Just got back from groceries.

Has anyone been able to adequately answer my question, why is Dennis suspicious?

What is the case on IAWY? Is there one or is it just "He's sketch"?

I see we have a tie.

TIES ARE DECIDED BY THE MAFIA. It's in the rules! Plz don't do this.

We should look on people forcing ties with disfavor.

It's a weird rule I've never heard of before, I guess Nanook hates ties.
I voted IAWY because I wanted to make it a tie. Looking at their ISO afterwards, there was like one post and a spice girls reference that gave me pause, but I left it preferring IAWY to Cape.
Why'd you want to make it a tie?

I have a guess, but I want to hear your reasoning.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:28 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Ties bad.

Hello thread, let's kill a wolf today.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:01 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Creature wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:51 am
Le petit poussin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:48 am
Creature wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:45 am Anyway I don't want you all complaining about wagons being stale. That's a fucking wolf excuse to abort an otherwise strong wagon on their partner.
Who are said wolves rn?
Someone said the Dennis wagon was stale. I don't think that someone is necessarily wolf. I just don't want someone to say the same about the Cape90 wagon as if that stops Cape90 from being a wolf.

If you think someone is town, then defend them with their own posts.
I've been pretty clear in my defense of Dennis aside from wagon stuff.

I believe you voted Dennis to put him at 6 votes yesterday closeish to 24 hours into the day, and then dropped your vote later. The other 5 votes have remained stationary on that wagon since then if I'm not mistaken and It's been probably 16 hours or so.

It was an observation, and one I'm still thinking about
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:39 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:36 am Can we not with the Sean votes.

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Sabi could have more votes. Didn't really like her thing with Nut or Mac. I'm sorry, gay, uwu no mad at me
I've gotta run, but could you plz give me a quick rundown on why not sean and why sabi



I promise I'll read it when I get back
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:35 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Master Radishes wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:29 am Fuck me I read my own posts back and I don't even get what I'm trying to say.


I haven't played properly in like a year besides a one-off game in the summer, and I actually feel rusty when trying to articulate things. I'm going to go back to just 'hmm'ing everything.
Hmmmmmmm
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:35 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:33 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:32 am
Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:26 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:22 am The Dennis voters haven't moved very much which is also weird imo. His wagon has been at 5+ votes for a while now.

I don't like Sean's vote, but I don't actively suspect anyone else on that wagon. Then again Neon is the only one I have a TR on there.


I'm not really sure what to make of this atm, but I expected more wagon fluctuation in such a large game, and that hasn't really happened.
I kind of get the feeling you're not actually concerned about me and my alignment, and instead are concerned about Dennis.
I think Dennis is more likely to be a miss, and it does concern me a little bit that his wagon hasn't changed at all over the course of Day 1, especially given that votes on him have reasoning such as "his ISO is meh"

I want and expect something more than that from you.


I also don't think PC is town, so their vote on on Dennis makes that wagon slightly less "good" imo.
PC is an NPC.
Did they explicitly claim that?

It's an assumption I wanted to make too, but their name is literally PC, so :shrug:
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:34 am
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Topic: Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:29 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:28 am
Master Radishes wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:22 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:22 am The Dennis voters haven't moved very much which is also weird imo. His wagon has been at 5+ votes for a while now.

I don't like Sean's vote, but I don't actively suspect anyone else on that wagon. Then again Neon is the only one I have a TR on there.


I'm not really sure what to make of this atm, but I expected more wagon fluctuation in such a large game, and that hasn't really happened.
Too many boring players.

Let's make a new wagon!
[VOTE: sean] aubergine
Damn, ninja'd.
What do you think of the other voters on the Dennis wagon?
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:32 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:26 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:22 am The Dennis voters haven't moved very much which is also weird imo. His wagon has been at 5+ votes for a while now.

I don't like Sean's vote, but I don't actively suspect anyone else on that wagon. Then again Neon is the only one I have a TR on there.


I'm not really sure what to make of this atm, but I expected more wagon fluctuation in such a large game, and that hasn't really happened.
I kind of get the feeling you're not actually concerned about me and my alignment, and instead are concerned about Dennis.
I think Dennis is more likely to be a miss, and it does concern me a little bit that his wagon hasn't changed at all over the course of Day 1, especially given that votes on him have reasoning such as "his ISO is meh"

I want and expect something more than that from you.


I also don't think PC is town, so their vote on on Dennis makes that wagon slightly less "good" imo.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:28 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Master Radishes wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:22 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:22 am The Dennis voters haven't moved very much which is also weird imo. His wagon has been at 5+ votes for a while now.

I don't like Sean's vote, but I don't actively suspect anyone else on that wagon. Then again Neon is the only one I have a TR on there.


I'm not really sure what to make of this atm, but I expected more wagon fluctuation in such a large game, and that hasn't really happened.
Too many boring players.

Let's make a new wagon!
[VOTE: sean] aubergine
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:22 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

The Dennis voters haven't moved very much which is also weird imo. His wagon has been at 5+ votes for a while now.

I don't like Sean's vote, but I don't actively suspect anyone else on that wagon. Then again Neon is the only one I have a TR on there.


I'm not really sure what to make of this atm, but I expected more wagon fluctuation in such a large game, and that hasn't really happened.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:19 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:15 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:08 am
Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:02 am @Marmot why are you voting Ender?
I didn't like some of his reads, particularly his Cape one in P#3086 I think is a very wolfy post.

Although overall, that read has waned since then, especially given his reasoning for actually suspecting Cape is sound.
If your Ender read has waned, then why aren't you voting me?
I only have one vote and can't place it everywhere.

Also, I'm leaving in a moment. I should be back before EOD, but I'm putting my vote on Cape because I prefer it to the Dennis wagon.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:17 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

EnderWiggin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:09 am
Dennis wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:07 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:48 am
Dennis wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:43 am Golden could go either way I can't keep track of him to save my life

Kate might be town but she has been very centered on her towniness rather than solving, something of note but I don't think it's too alignment indicative

Party Crasher, I've got no clue on but I rolled my eyes and thought "lame" when I read it was 6 people, for some reason. Couldn't tell ya why

Falcon could be bad but also I think that like every D1 so I'm leaving him alone (and on that topic I won't vote Wilgy today for the same reason)

Lucy is doing her thing where she just says "player x town" so like maybe town

Urist could be bad, that's where my vote would be if I wanted to vote but I don't

Sabi and I are townreading each other, which I hate to be THAT guy but it gives me a bad feeling about them. I will ignore that for now though

Alison is doing that thing where she has the largest ego in the world so I guess maybe town but like maybe drop it back a notch

No one else comes to mind immediately, I'm off to bed buh bye
This is wolf.

Why has no one voted this.
Do you know just how many people have voted this because it is greater than 0
In my defense....

Look! Squirrel!
Image
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:14 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Master Radishes wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:10 am If I had a shot I'd shoot Dizzy.

Not that I scumread him exactly, but there was another game where I was really close to hero-shooting him and stuck to the 'safe' choice and it was a mistake, so I want to get another opportunity.
If Dizzy is town, he will find the wolves.

If Dizzy is wolf, he will hellbus his partners.


It's a win/win scenario to keep him alive.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:13 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:08 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:04 am
Marmot wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:48 pm I browsed some of Dennis's ISO.

Dennis doesn't feel like Dennis from Cartomancy (his only scum game), where I think he did play with a lot of snark and confidence, but often strayed towards posts that didn't offer much content.

He is making reads (NAI), but he's also engaging in extended interactions and offering some clarity in his thought process which I think is rand!v. Golden mentioned in P#2084 that he finds players who excuse themselves from solving early in this game due to the volume to be mildly scummy, but even though Dennis made that excuse, he isn't even doing that, and that was true as of the time Golden made that comment.

It is possible that w!Dennis realizes that the way he played in Cartomancy would be hard to replicate again given it would just be hard to get away with relying purely on snark again, but I don't think this is it.
@Seanzie
I didn't catch Dennis in Cartomancy, and while many people said they played quite differently than their previous games, I remember looking at their ISO and just not seeing it, so my "meh" read is not really based on how Cartomancy!Dennis compares to previous-games!Dennis.

Why would playing snarky be hard to replicate? If anything, that would be easy to replicate, but Dennis might not do it since it would remind people of their recent wolf game.
He seemed to rely mostly on snark in Cartomancy to assert his confidence. I was also MoDDing that game, so I was watching the whole game and everything he said with TMI, and that was the main thing I noticed with his scum play.

That was my point, I don't think it would be hard to replicate, I just think it would be an easy pattern to notice, and thus hard to get away with again.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:08 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

[VOTE: Cape] aubergine
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:08 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:02 am @Marmot why are you voting Ender?
I didn't like some of his reads, particularly his Cape one in P#3086 I think is a very wolfy post.

Although overall, that read has waned since then, especially given his reasoning for actually suspecting Cape is sound.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:04 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Marmot wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:48 pm I browsed some of Dennis's ISO.

Dennis doesn't feel like Dennis from Cartomancy (his only scum game), where I think he did play with a lot of snark and confidence, but often strayed towards posts that didn't offer much content.

He is making reads (NAI), but he's also engaging in extended interactions and offering some clarity in his thought process which I think is rand!v. Golden mentioned in P#2084 that he finds players who excuse themselves from solving early in this game due to the volume to be mildly scummy, but even though Dennis made that excuse, he isn't even doing that, and that was true as of the time Golden made that comment.

It is possible that w!Dennis realizes that the way he played in Cartomancy would be hard to replicate again given it would just be hard to get away with relying purely on snark again, but I don't think this is it.
@Seanzie
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:58 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:55 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:53 am
Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:46 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:45 am
Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:40 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:26 am Seanzie what are your current stances on like... anything?
Climate change is real. Pretty controversial stance, I know.
This post is -ev for climate change.

Why are you voting Dennis rn?
Their ISO was meh.
:blinks:

I see
And this placates you?
No it doesn't.

Dennis has 100 posts, and summing his ISO up as a singular "meh" doesn't do anything for me.

Also I disagree. I think some of his content today has been fairly townie, so I don't see what you're seeing.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:56 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

I viberead Dizzy as town rn.

Sean, not so much. He doesn't have any bite, which is what I tend to expect from v!Sean.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:53 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:46 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:45 am
Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:40 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:26 am Seanzie what are your current stances on like... anything?
Climate change is real. Pretty controversial stance, I know.
This post is -ev for climate change.

Why are you voting Dennis rn?
Their ISO was meh.
:blinks:

I see
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:51 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Creature wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:48 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:45 am
Creature wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:44 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:41 am
Creature wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:40 am Oh welp this is shitty
What is?
You prob wouldn't understand...
Try me.
No, too risky.
What's at stake here?
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

S~V~S wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:42 am @Neon, I've never seen you bad. I'm not sure i would recognize it if i did. So you seem like you always do to me, but maybe you can do that when you're bad, too. It's kinda why I asked you & Lily that question, about how you interacted.

I am gonna have to read more of your reads, I'm not sure i can do that Day one. Although the fact that you, Lucy and Lily seemed to be coming together, could help clarify it for me.

Isn't putting people you are unsure of in the POE a good thing, or at least not a bad thing? Everyone starts out there, at least for me.
Sure, that makes sense. I didn't realize quite what your definition of POE was.

I also personally tend to make a distinction between players I nullread for no content/opinion, and players I nullread for having both towny and scummy content, but yeah I would also put them both in the POE.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Creature wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:44 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:41 am
Creature wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:40 am Oh welp this is shitty
What is?
You prob wouldn't understand...
Try me.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Seanzie wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:40 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:26 am Seanzie what are your current stances on like... anything?
Climate change is real. Pretty controversial stance, I know.
This post is -ev for climate change.

Why are you voting Dennis rn?
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Creature wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:40 am Oh welp this is shitty
What is?
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

S~V~S wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:35 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:53 am
S~V~S wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:52 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:45 am Literally, anyone reading Rondo town because of wallposts and bossiness is wrong.

I get v tired of reminding everyone that in his two wolf games so far he's shown perfectly fine solving/wim.

Also Rondo will agree that:
1. I have the most experience with him as wolf/in general
2. I'm right that he can fake the WIM/Bossiness.

Now, post-d1 there is certain arguments for him keeping it up being town or scum but D1 it's NAI.

Instead you look at his reads and positions.
OK, thank you. I have never seen bad Rondo. i will keep this in mind. My read was based on my experience of him, which is limited.
I barely remember your stances rn.

Can you gimme a quick summary?
I have very few so far. Starting with the people I have at least some experience with:

I think Kate is town, and I'm not seeing the Dennis thing. I am not so sure about Golden, he would come in saying what he did bad or good. It would be a good gambit for him, as it was in Game 1 where he was bad, to get Kate in his corner fast. I iso'ed both 112 and Alison so far, null read on 112, they made a great opening post, but kinda petered off after that, and voted with no reason, which isn't my favorite thing. I read Alison, and leaning 3P or maybe town. I might have leaned bad on her if i hadn't seen her react similarly to Golden as she did to Roxy when i spectated Cartomancy. Also i see some of her points on Golden, even if i disagree on Kate.

On feels alone, I think nutella more likely town. I don't recall much of what Marmot or Wilgy said, Scotty is someone I can usually sort quickly, but not here. It may be the giant thread, but all these are in POE for me. I've played with Dyslexicon, but it's been a while, so same there.

Mac isn't really maccing yet, but it would seem that is his day one norm? Last game I played with Michelle she was bad, and nothing like she is here, so lean town. Neon is cavorting with her friend, having fun, posting pictures. Pretty normal for her, I would guess NAI (never seen bad Neon), so also POE. Pyxxy has not made much of an impression on me yet, and I want to read them before trying to form one. They were civ in Holes, and I was positive they were bad. I think Party crasher is 3P. Rondo, based on my experience, which is limited, is town. Sabi seems solvey rather than avoidant, so lean town, my main imperession of Sean is from his back/forth with Alison, and him jumping on me for mentioning him in a post. POE.

Sig is here, but don't recall much he has said. POE. Sloonei seems detached and waiting for the field to narrow to engage. This seems to kinda be his new meta, being more detached. So POE. TSP is not unlike Falcon for me. Even if i had read all of their posts (and I haven't) I can only read them based on how much i agree/disagree with him.

Everyone else I don't know, have no impression of (except Lily, as her and Neon caught my eye. I asked them a question, wasn't 100% sure how I felt about Lilys answer), and/or haven't really interacted with. Like I said in an earlier post, most people this game seem to be *mostly* sticking to familiar faces, which I guess is normal Day 1. Just more pronounced in a game with this many people.

Rereading this, if i had to vote this minute, it might be for 112. I really liked their first post, but they had a total of only 4 or 5 posts, but that vote for no reason, I didn't like that.

I am going to ISO Cape next, then might skip to Lucy, or might keep up the alphabetical reads. I hope to have a better list by EOD.

What'd you like about 112's first post?

I think your take on Sloonei is on point. He doesn't play much anymore, nor do I recall him being the active poster he used to be when he does play, is there a reason you have him as POE as a result? I think of that particular part of his play as NAI.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:35 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:32 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:03 am cape town for a dumb reason, that's all
What's the dumb reason? I love dumb reasons.
Wait is TSP here or
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:34 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Looking at Cape's ISO


P#2411: I dislike this read from Cape, mainly because I had the exact opposite read on nutella, I thought she was mildly in her wolfrange very early on, then has slowly left as the game progressed.
P#2418: I thought this was a fine read earlier, but I think nutella's right, and could easily an excuse to take attention away from TSP. w/w TSP/Cape is my level 0 read here.
P#2629: Cape did backtrack on the TSP read, but it wasn't a great one to begin with. Also, I just noticed a thing from Rondo in this post where Cape asks about Sean, and Rondo uno-reverses Cape which I didn't really like from Rondo. I think it's fine that Cape brought up another player for discussion, but Rondo seemed to mildly dismiss it.

Another sabi note that this post reminded me of: I've seen Sabi AtE kinda excessively as wolf before, but not as town, and when they have done it as wolf, they did it with their teammate Mac (and got his permission in wolfchat), so I do think it's a townpoint for Sabi that they had a strong response to lucy earlier today and lucy flipped v.

P#2706: @Cape90 how did your read on Urist go from slightly townie in 2417 to this scum in this one?
P#2649 I can agree with some of these scumreads: Ender, MR, pyxxy. I feel pretty confident that Neon isn't scum (I talked about this earlier), I disagree on this read. I don't think sig is scum atm, but it doesn't surprise me to see players SR him who aren't familiar with him. ilario in this list also doesn't make sense to me. I dunno, he offered slank cover which I know wolves can easily do, but I don't think it's necessarily AI, but I don't think he's been at all obviously scummy. I think I'll have a better grasp on ilario Day 2 (I can explain why then).

Can you explain your nutella read Cape, I don't understand what you're saying about her in the last post I linked, but it seems like you've listed her in your townreads.
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:21 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Le petit poussin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:19 am Ender's spicy read evening show, season 16
:popcorn:
by Marmot
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Inawordyes wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:21 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:14 pm
Inawordyes wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:11 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:09 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:08 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:05 pm Wait, is it not N0? I’m confused
fake derp
Inawordyes wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:06 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:05 pm Wait, is it not N0? I’m confused
N0 was yesterday when we received our roles

D1 is now
knows too much




obv w/w theater gettem
You are wolf.

Too absolute too early
Oh man, is the OMGUS scummy?

Questions, questions
Take a stance. Do you think it’s scummy?

I’ll give you a question: do you think they wouldn’t have rhymed Birkenstocks and socks if they didn’t mean for them to go together?
My honest thought is that it’s probably townie for you to immediately take offense, but I’m also a feckless coward who got camera-shy about taking the stance immediately when we’re already being paired as a W/W based on the interaction you responded to

I don’t know what Birkenstocks are
Random post that caught my eye because Scotty seems like one of the least likely people to take offense to something. I don't see what IAWY is commenting on here in that regard.

This interaction looks w/w, in that I don't think Scotty really took offensive to anything, And IAWY managed to use that as a reason to TR Scotty. After I had that thought, I noticed @nutella's embedded quote lol
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:11 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

EnderWiggin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:05 am
Le petit poussin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:03 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:55 am Actually you know what?

Pyxxy town.

It's a stupid read but it checks out.
Go on friendo.
Just based on the meme + Defense of Dennis post Lucy death. The sudden heat means shit to pyxxy and they're even kinda making fun of it.

It just feels way too uninvested in the sudden wash of heat and the lack of care to make that meme just legit feels towny idk.

It's pretty dumb but I believe in it.
Couldn't w!pyxxy also have opted to defend w!Dennis with lucy's legacy as support for it?

Actually, I don't think that would be a good strat considering how lucy read pyxxy.
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Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:00 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

[shoot]ender[/vote]

(I got you Neon)
by Marmot
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

EnderWiggin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:49 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:48 am
Spoiler: show
EnderWiggin wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:47 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:38 pm @112 @Alison @Creature @DrWilgy @Golden @ilario @Le petit poussin @MacDougall @Master Radishes @Michelle

Three of you are wolves, which three?
Two of you are 3P, which two?
Five of you are town, which five?

Everyone else feel free to take wild shots in the dark too
Rondo is a wolf. Alison is also a wolf. Dr Wilgy is also a wolf. Michelle is also a wolf. And Golden is a wolf.

That's the five I needed, right?
EnderWiggin wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:56 pm Serious read, Rondo is a wolf.

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

He's fallen for a classic blunder.
EnderWiggin wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:02 pm
Lilypetal wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:37 pm Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus
seems more sabi indicative than wolf indicative
Do wolves always make wolf indicative posts?




See, I find that often early D1 they make the awkward "trying to fit in posts"...and Sabi is given me dem vibes
I like Dems so I won't be voting with you.
EnderWiggin wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:11 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:10 pm Me/Rondo/Ender

Are all a difference check.
You're not supposed to out that I'm 3p yet though.
EnderWiggin wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:54 am
Neon wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:38 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:36 pm
Neon wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:34 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:29 pm

But neon is town. Ender is pocketing
Ender would never pocket me

Right ender?

Right?

Help...
Never.

Now here's the entrance way to my:
Personal
Optimised
Control
Kondo
for
Exceptional
Tangerines.

(Sorry you're a tangerine now. I don't make the rules.)
Does your pocket still have free WiFi like it did in Champs?
Of course.
Ender's Iso is so bad that i can't imagine wolf! Ender posting like that.
I disapprove the wagon on Ender
This is probably the most embarrassing but accurate read on me so far lol
LOL

I'm proud of you for sharing this embarassing read with us.


On that note, I know I've been on the wrong end of Ender mischops before (Halvøsen Ridge comes to mind), so this read doesn't surprise me, and that is on my mind
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Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:51 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

um don't mind me
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Le petit poussin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:43 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:42 am
Le petit poussin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:42 am
Creature wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:35 am My name is on a wagon sandwich
Last tume u used this type of defense u were chopped and flipped woof (well u were bamboolized by marmots set up but still).
Will history repeats?
What game was this?
Anni game 2
Oh right! I was trying to think of a game that I'd played lol.
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Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:42 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Le petit poussin wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:42 am
Creature wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:35 am My name is on a wagon sandwich
Last tume u used this type of defense u were chopped and flipped woof (well u were bamboolized by marmots set up but still).
Will history repeats?
What game was this?
by Marmot
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:41 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Ok yeah, Party Crasher probably isn't town, but they seem pro-town enough atm.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:38 am
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:37 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:30 am I think we're getting to the portion of the game where I just don't know.
Dizzy letting slip that he's a reverse-lost-wolf
Lost town, town please find me halp
What's your favorite vegetable?
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1

Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:30 am I think we're getting to the portion of the game where I just don't know.
Dizzy letting slip that he's a reverse-lost-wolf

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