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by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:09 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
Replies: 12241
Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:07 pm I want to play mafia with y'all but I'm too tired to do any backreading right now, so can somebody like hand me a controller that's not actually plugged in and let me pretend I'm doing stuff?
I understand your fatigue. Be aware though that since we've opened the doors to two mafia teams, you're a prime candidate to attract tinfoil galore. If you don't Do Things, it's going to happen. And I'm not sure I'll defend you.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:07 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
Replies: 12241
Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:56 pm
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:51 pm i think i'll be voting marmot over al
I could find absolutely zero direct references to Al_sama in Tedxtr's ISO

On the other hand, I could find several direct references to Marmot in Ted's ISO. Ted ISO'd Marmot and concluded that he was a villager (https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 70#p762270), and he spent a large portion of d1 defending him.

In spite of that, Ted decided to vote for the person that he had previously made a towncase on over the person that he had no direct interactions with whatsoever

Why?
Thanks I meant to look at ted's AL stuff too and forgot. Valid.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:04 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
Replies: 12241
Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Interactions: Marmot and tedxtr

From Marmot

Spoiler: show
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:04 pm
tutuu wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:20 pm
tedxtr wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:46 pm anyway, guess i should make some reads

read # 1 - jpic town on toan alone

this one's gonna get people riled up, i can tell
its a right read

the last time u said "this will get ppl riled up" was in goc and u were mafia

Ted did do this, albeit in a slightly different manner
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm I do not feel like TSP is the right place to vote today.
Immediate vibes on these folks please:

AL_sama
Marmot
tedxtr
No read
Town
Town
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:05 pm
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:01 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:00 pm [VOTE: Al] aubergine

This is the best of the current wagons.
Do you genuinely believe Al is the scummiest active wagon or is this self pres?

Also this wording implies there is someone who you'd rather see exed over Al but who isn't an active wagon. Who is it?
It is both.

I've seen reasons for both Ted and TSP to be town. Al on the other hand posted an awkward readlist yesterday and not much since then.


If this game happens to be multi-ball, Nanook and spf should be given another look. They were both suspicions I had earlier on before they claimed mason.
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:41 pm If AL was catching/caught up, I would expect more than just the ted observation

I also disagree on that slot

This is a bunch of nothing. Marmot acknowledged, sort of, one minor tutuu gripe about ted and otherwise called him town for _______ reasons. Perhaps the most surprising thing is that Marmot said nearly nothing about ted around EOD when ted spent some time as a viable counterwagon (particularly when it was 5-5-4 AL-Marmot-ted).

From tedxtr

Spoiler: show
tedxtr wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:27 am
Marmot wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:36 pm I know nothing about this show. Am I at a disadvantage?
samesies

just play werewolf
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tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:43 am
Spoiler: show
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:46 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:36 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:34 pmWhat'd I miss?
Numerous micro-interactions between various pairs and trios of players that could not be effectively summarized without writing a novel. You might be well advised to try catching up with ISOs instead of forcing yourself through the thread. If you want to do that though, you do you.

My tactic in large games has been to largely ignore everything that happens until halfway through Day 1 for my own sanity. That said, town has lost every such game. I'll start with SPF and KZA isos.


Why are you voting me and why do you have 100+ posts already?
what are these questions
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:56 pm @KZA why are you so staunch in your townread of Sloonei?
what is this question x2
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:21 pm This game already feels like a civilian win. Strut your stuff town gang and we can climb the 2021 leaderboard in no time. Just do your thing, because you've been blessed with a state of total solving comfort. :beer:

JJJ trying to make this game look easy on page 2. I dislike.
i dunno if marmot is that type of mafia player archetype where he picks up on specific stuff to call out, given that he hasn't been around in a long time and just recently picked up the pace, i'm gonna go with a slight villager look
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:47 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:30 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:26 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:24 pm

my vote would probably land on aL_sama, marmot, or ted right now. i honestly don't have a single name that i can point to as definitely being scum right now though - i moreso have the game divided between "probably town" and "probably not town"
I also had a salad for dinner tonight.
my number one takeaway from this game so far is that i don't understand what "salad" means :P
"I would vote A, B, or C" is close to the prototype for the player salad tell. It's suggestive of keeping one's options wide open when not comfortable committing to suspicions. What's holding you back from placing one of those votes right now?
that makes sense - i would say that i am thinking in salad terms right now because of the particular gamestate we're in

i'm not at a point where i can confidently point to one player and say "this person is a wolf", but i am at a point where i can point to a pool of people and say "this pool probably has wolves", and vice versa for town. the more specific wolfreads tend to come later in the game when i've had more time to interrogate people and feel things out

there's nothing particularly holding me back from making a vote right now, either. i just don't feel particularly inspired to do it at the moment. it'll happen

JJJ said this game would be easy, but it never actually is.

Also, that's a lot of adverbs and use of the word "particular" in one post.
I don't think he's ever gone for this line as a wolf before? Correct me if wrong
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:50 pm My concern about tutuu is that she's been all over the place, playing a cute version of Mac's spew shit and see what sticks meta, and it's one that he replicates pretty well as mafia.
i'm confused as to why he thinks tutuu would deliberately attempt to fake mac's play style
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:38 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:02 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:58 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:05 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
What moved you?
i no longer felt comfortable with my vote on fingersplints, and the concerns that i had about marmot yesterday have not been alleviated in the slightest by his posting today.. i got the impression that he may have been trying to play up the dichotomy of tutuu/myself

I had mild suspicions of both of you, and then you starting butting heads, or at least tutuu starting calling you scum. That's when I happened to voice said suspicions.

But of course tutuu's back to townreading you (as of this post of yours), which is also my qualm with her.
this seems fine
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:10 am
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:03 am @Marmot could you elaborate on those nanook and tutuu reads?

Tutuu's been an active presence in the thread, but changing her reads on a whim.

Nanook said he's not going to read JJJ until Day 3-4, but he's made multiple posts like [url[https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 91#p760791]this one[/url] and this one that look like mild attempts at shade.
fine too, i guess?
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:57 pm
Esooa wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:59 pm This game feels like Jay and I are mafia teammates. I wonder if anyone has made that observation yet.
I think a majority of scum rn is active

What's the point of this post if the following is your readlist?

Esooa wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:37 pm Falcon-town
2. Tedextr-towny, lacking
4. Odd-fine but needs to make actual content
5. Sloonei-whatever
7. Strawhenge-town
8. JaggedJimmyJay-town
9. Staypositivefriend-town
10. KZA-probably town
11. MacDougall-probably town
13. Marmot-no thoughts
14. TSP-scummy
15. Long Con-no thoughts
16. Fingersplints-towny
17. Tutuu-playing different to her scum game from when I've seen her twice but in a way that is more scummy so idk what to think exactly
18. JPIC-whatever
19. Michelle-town
20. Alison-null
21. BoKnows-towny
22. Al Sama-scummy
this shows he's at least been paying attention to the game a bit

====

overall, his main focus seems to be shading / pushing the POWERFUL players in a POWERFUL playerlist on D0 - D1.

on the elite reads ranks, jay and marmot are probably not w/w


marmot seems like a villager
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tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:40 am alison - did you post the marmot case anywhere?
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:31 am no, but for real, apart from alison's explanation, why are people voting marmot?
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:59 pm marmot - hasn't done much

ted - has motly slanked this game and when he makes reads, he's lock mafia because he cares about his single read

tsp - has been a wildcard and his posts and arguments have been confusing


these are the top wagons with reasons from alison's big post
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:20 pm spf, why is marmot scum?
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:27 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:26 pm
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:14 pm
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:10 pm Based on all these points I don't think Syndicate D1s are lazy or clout based.
i've just quoted 3 of your reasons for wolves and 2 of them contain slanking
It isn't lazy to chop "slankers" when a wealth of rationale has been provided to support the choice by various different people.

It is lazy to decline to chop "slankers" merely because they are "slankers".
i've been asking for this wealth of rationale on at least one wagon for quite a bit and nobody is able to write anything that's concrete

for example : marmot
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:29 pm the only reply i got for marmot was from alison stating he had a weird interaction with kza
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:34 pm
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:27 pm for example : marmot
Rationale external to Marmot --> a pile of people have seemed town, removing them from candidacy

Rationale relating directly to Marmot --> degree of seriousness of his play parallels amount of suspicion presently heaped upon him; currently showing zero concern for the game state despite reading a bunch of POE'd players as town; griping with my generic cheerleader post as if it's remarkable; contributed to an environment of chaos with one of his goofy self-votes (i.e. eagerly participating in a state that I view as anti-town while not eagerly participating so much when the thread is healthier); beefing with SPF over adverbs as if Marmot is an adverb person

Probably not comprehensive
thanks x2 ; i believe the strongest reason is the showing zero concern with a PoE that's upside down from thread consensus

do you think wolf!marmot is likely to go for the "post the weakest reasons in order to go at people that are active and considered town"?

i know it seems like a loaded question, but realistically, that's what I feel like he's done

do you think it's a fake approach designed...to get town read on derpiness?
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:51 pm i think i'll be voting marmot over al
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:58 pm [VOTE: Marmot ] aubergine

shrug

I used the equals signs again to cordon off a big ISO review ted did of Marmot. The degree of focus is on its own a remarkable thing, as ted did not give anyone else such attention. I'm not sure why Marmot was the one he felt warranted it. I'll also note that the ISO is filled largely with null or even negative remarks with only some soft positives -- it's odd that the conclusion is then "Marmot is a villager". After that it's a consistent theme as the day phase winds down: looking for someone to explain why Marmot is getting votes. ted is dismissive of the Marmot suspicion in a way that's at least unfair. If he's read anything in Marmot-related dialogues, I'm not sure why he reduces the case to "Marmot hasn't done much". That's not encouraging. I highlighted one post in orange where I think ted is engaging in some mental gymnastics to stave off my own suspicions of Marmot, to an extent that it's somewhat hard to view as a real thought.

Sure, they can be teammates. It's not hard at all to make the case. Perhaps I am not overwhelmingly convinced as some seem to be, but whatever. I am not about to resist that consensus with this analysis.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:51 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
Replies: 12241
Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

I'm willing to take your word for it for now, Mac. I think I've played like three multiball games ever. I usually don't sign up. :smile:

(no offense nova my dude)
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:47 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
Replies: 12241
Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Hally wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:46 pm i would very much like to kill ted

does anyone object to this?
I'll see soon. I have kind of refused to entertain the groupthink there until I can dig for myself.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:45 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
Replies: 12241
Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Interactions: Marmot and KZA

From Marmot

Spoiler: show
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:46 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:36 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:34 pmWhat'd I miss?
Numerous micro-interactions between various pairs and trios of players that could not be effectively summarized without writing a novel. You might be well advised to try catching up with ISOs instead of forcing yourself through the thread. If you want to do that though, you do you.

My tactic in large games has been to largely ignore everything that happens until halfway through Day 1 for my own sanity. That said, town has lost every such game. I'll start with SPF and KZA isos.


Why are you voting me and why do you have 100+ posts already?
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:56 pm @KZA why are you so staunch in your townread of Sloonei?
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:16 pm
KZA wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:15 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:14 pm
KZA wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:09 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:56 pm @KZA why are you so staunch in your townread of Sloonei?
I don't think I have been? I'm not worried about him right now so no reason to redact the read anyway

Maybe that wasn't the right word. I saw you called him town multiple times, but I couldn't find an explanation before.
His early case on Alison seemed like a reasonable Sloonei thought even if I didn't really agree with it

This is a reasonable KZA thought.
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:40 pm
Alison wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:35 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:56 pm @KZA why are you so staunch in your townread of Sloonei?
Lots of people are, why's his townread notable?

I was ISOing KZA and I noticed instances of stating a townread of Sloonei but not explanation for it.

I think it drew my attention a little more because the three of us had a lot of interactions in Fallout Mafia, and in particular, Sloonei voiced strong scumreads of each of us at one point in the game, and I was concerned that KZA was attempting to pocket him early in this game after that happened there.
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:36 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:35 pm @Marmot die thundercat die

Give me the sweet release!
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:31 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:22 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:21 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 pm My only experience of marmot is that he is silly when mafia and pretty serious when town. My sample size is only three games so I acknowledge i need more data.
This is true based on the one game I saw him as Mafia
Which game was that?
Shadow Corridors

he was known as Thundercat, some sort of villainous alter ego of his I'm sure

Side note, since you bring this up. I wonder if @BoKnows ever realized he and I were teammates in that game.

Thundercat is a slappin bassist.
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:00 am
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:57 pm
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:57 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:29 am
Oddmerta wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:28 am
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:27 am [VOTE: Oddmerta] aubergine
What are you doing?
Playing Fargo Mafia... What are you doing?
Lol I dont like this post. I do like Oddmerta here tho.

Oddmerta's behavior here isn't anything to write home about
I agree but what do you stand to gain from this comment

I'm interested in why Mac liked Oddmerta over such a simple statement.
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:15 am
KZA wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:13 am
tutuu wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:10 am im shaking my hips irl rn at the prospect of getting townread no cap
are you playing mafia standing up

Did you know if you sit forward in your chair while squatting on your feet, you increase your reasoning capabilities by 40%?

This interaction from the Marmot side is rather sleepy and makes me feel nothing. Their chat about Sloonei doesn't provide much insight. Perhaps Marmot was appeasing with his "This is a reasonable KZA thought" to butter KZA up. Perhaps Marmot's entire interest was to assess KZA's alignment for himself, which would be a nice thing. It's not super conclusive to me.

From KZA

Spoiler: show
KZA wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:39 pm
Alison wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:33 pm
KZA wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:03 pm Nanook hasn't spoken to me once but now I'm Maf to him so he can get OMGUS'd too
[VOTE: KZA] aubergine
whatever
Alison wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:35 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:56 pm @KZA why are you so staunch in your townread of Sloonei?
Lots of people are, why's his townread notable?
probably because Marmot is iso'ing me first as he said instead he was going to
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:05 am
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:52 am i am beginning to form some concerns about tutuu as well, unfortunately
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:54 am [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
What bothers you about these players?
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:33 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:29 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:28 pm I'm voting for myself in spirit
You promised me a reads list last night. I'm still very much listening to you and would greatly appreciate such a list.
JaggedJimmyJay
Falcon
Staypositivefriend
Strawhenge
MacDougall
Michelle


Esooa
Alison
TSP
Sloonei


Tedextr
Odd
Dom
Marmot
Long Con
Fingersplints
JPIC
BoKnows
Al Sama


Nanook
Tutuu
KZA


Green town, Pink towny but tinfoilable, Blue I have no idea, Red lock mafia
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:38 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:36 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:33 pm Green town, Pink towny but tinfoilable, Blue I have no idea, Red lock mafia
Thank you. Could you talk a little about your view of Alison? She is in a different position for you among your accusers.
I townread her for our earlier discussions but I'm feeling concerned about how she's trying to frame me as w/w with Marmot for some innocuous question

I also don't see the progression that led to her putting me as "highest chance of flipping scum" so I've asked her to talk about that
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:32 pm Marmot is scum. I say this with 100% accuracy.
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:35 pm @Marmot die thundercat die
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 pm My only experience of marmot is that he is silly when mafia and pretty serious when town. My sample size is only three games so I acknowledge i need more data.
This is true based on the one game I saw him as Mafia
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:57 pm
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:57 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:29 am
Oddmerta wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:28 am
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:27 am [VOTE: Oddmerta] aubergine
What are you doing?
Playing Fargo Mafia... What are you doing?
Lol I dont like this post. I do like Oddmerta here tho.

Oddmerta's behavior here isn't anything to write home about
I agree but what do you stand to gain from this comment
KZA wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:12 am
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:58 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:40 am alison - did you post the marmot case anywhere?
I suspect Marmot based on one interaction.
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:16 pm
KZA wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:15 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:14 pm
KZA wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:09 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:56 pm @KZA why are you so staunch in your townread of Sloonei?
I don't think I have been? I'm not worried about him right now so no reason to redact the read anyway

Maybe that wasn't the right word. I saw you called him town multiple times, but I couldn't find an explanation before.
His early case on Alison seemed like a reasonable Sloonei thought even if I didn't really agree with it

This is a reasonable KZA thought.
This interaction markets itself as being two townies doing solving and analyzing each other. However reading through it I can't find any evidence that either of them genuinely care about exposing the other's alignments. It's a bunch of play-acting and blowing smoke up town's asses.
I don't know why I have to w/w with Marmot for answering his question which is literally all I did there but w/e
KZA wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:05 pm Look I'm gonna vote Marmot probably I just thought I'd offer TSP to any opportunists while I could tie the wagons

I love my stupid level 0 bait what can I say
KZA wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:18 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:17 pm Has this TSP wagon sneaked up to 4, or did I miss it during my school things?
I didn't sneak it in I'm just screwing around I'll be voting Marmot most likely
KZA wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:43 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

die thundercat

The takeaway from KZA is that he shifted quite abruptly from essentially a non-read on Marmot to a tunnel on Marmot. I'd like to have a better idea of why than I do. @KZA please talk about what lead you to your "die thundercat" perspective. He'd been in your blue "no idea" pile an hour prior to that.

I don't know what to do with that. It's an event regardless and it connects the two of them. I'd say it's at least a mildly compatible relationship. I would benefit from hearing more of KZA's progression.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:29 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
Replies: 12241
Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:27 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:11 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:06 pm i am off work if anyone wants to chat about certain reads!

i will be mostly giving my brain a break from this game tonight, though. i did not realize that the thread would be open during the night and i like having that time to recharge & pull myself away from the game
If you feel up to it (you've earned a break), it'd be cool to know what you think of the Marmot/fingersplints interaction. I just reviewed it up there. I know fingersplints is a read of interest to you more than most.
i took a look at the interaction analysis that you did of the two, and i mostly came out of it shrugging my shoulders. i agree with you that their interactions do not look like a perfect fit, but they also aren't particularly clearing. it's the same "i have no idea what to do with this" feeling that i've been feeling about fingersplints for the entirety of the game

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 00#p763200 < out of all the interactions that you brought up, this one looked the most to me like non-partner interaction. the way that marmot brings up al's name to fingersplints feels manipulative and focused on wifom, and fingersplint's reaction is very blunt and very short-winded. i feel like there's almost a mismatch of mindsets in that exchange - marmot going out of his way to WIFOM and manipulate, and fingersplints not paying it any mind. my GTH feeling is that this is non-partner interaction, but it's not really a read that i would bank on right now
More or less agreed. Thanks.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:29 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
Replies: 12241
Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Hally wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:27 pm i skimmed bo’s iso in bee mafia (he was a wolf)

my impression is he seems more comfortable itt here than there. the obvious caveat is that i generally expect the wolves to be more comfortable posting knowing they can scum hunt in earnest, so take this however you want

i’m curious if the people who were in bee mafia agree with this
He certainly seems comfortable. And at least from the two-mafia-teams perspective, I don't think his comfortable appearance stems from the way he is hunting. He just looks comfortable in general.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:24 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
Replies: 12241
Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Hally wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:23 pm i wonder if i v read michelle too easily?
I like her posts every time they happen. I wish they were more frequent.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:23 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
Replies: 12241
Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Interactions: Marmot and Justplayingitcool

From Marmot

Spoiler: show
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:30 pm
Esooa wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:28 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:37 am JPIC is reading more of the thread than he lets on which is generally towny from quote unquote LHF slots.
what?

It's obviously a leaking wolfchat.
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:30 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:21 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:13 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:11 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:07 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:57 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:54 pm

LC was irritated as mafia in Bike. But he was also irritated as town in Fallout.
So it's NAI then

Yes, do you suspect him for other things?

I'll iso him soon
Not really other than a weird reaction to Mac's post. I suspect him less than BK and my other scum reads.

The one thing I did like about LC was his clapback to odd with the whole "Im voting for 6/8PM" thing

Can you explain your BK scumread? I don't really get that one.
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Justplayingitcool wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:58 pm
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:57 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:55 pm
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:53 pm can scum pls tell me they're scum to help me solve the game?
What if you're scum tho
then I'm a fool
what do you mean?
Justplayingitcool wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:04 pm
tutuu wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:59 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:58 pm
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:57 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:55 pm

What if you're scum tho
then I'm a fool
what do you mean?
i agree i think bo scumslipped

[VOTE: boknows] aubergine

die wolf
I find people making posts ‘if the wolves can out themselves to make game easier’ is slightly wolfy.

However, i think it’s hasty to call it a scum slip rn. I just don’t really see the point in his last two posts
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:12 am
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:38 am Skimmed through Al's ISO and was not impressed. Towards the end he made a giant read list and falcon said something like "it looks like you don't want to lynch anybody", and Al responded by saying he's not confident in his read list. If you're not confident enough in your reads why even bother making a readlist??? It seems like he made a readlist to just make a readlist.
die


- This whole interaction to start with. I didn't think much of it to start with but it just feels like random filler which seems to be a frequency of BK.
- The iso of Al felt random and forced
- his reaction to mac's cop claim was scummy and felt fake

- I don't think point one is necessarily AI. Many players fill the game with fluff and will do it as town.
- I didn't see the Al iso, but I'll look at it.
- I do agree about the Mac cop post thingy. Well sorta. I think that reaction looks more nervous than fake.
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:06 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:01 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:49 pm There were a couple players I wanted to ISO last night and LC was one of them.
why
I believe he had votes at the time even though he doesn't now.
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:26 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 pm My only experience of marmot is that he is silly when mafia and pretty serious when town. My sample size is only three games so I acknowledge i need more data.
I've realized this as well and am attempting to make them more consistent. :noble:

I wish I had more to say about the somewhat substantial exchange they had in there with the quote pyramid. It doesn't look especially teammate-indicative, but it's also pretty soft. One thing I appreciate for JPIC is that very last post in the spoiler. JPIC's meta assessment of Marmot had a non-zero impact upon my own view and decision to vote Marmot. Marmot's accommodating response to that meta read seems kinda schmoozy in a way that he ought not need for his own teammate. Decent look.

From Justplayingitcool

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Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:58 am
fingersplints wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:31 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:21 am
fingersplints wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:15 am Up to page 24 now, I don’t agree with the suspicion of Jay (from TonyStarkPrime) and Alison (from staypositivefriend).
Both seem pretty townie to me right now.
TonyStarkPrime’s seems more flimsy out of the two, but I still have more to go. We’ll see
What was flimsy about it?
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:56 pm A few things have thrown me off from the beginning but his current vote for Marmot is something that inclines me to think that way as well. I also just don't think his iso is carrying the proper tone and I'm wondering if his read on sloonei was developed improperly. He also also seems hesistant to say things that I wouldn't usually think he'd be hesitant to say. I did like the post he made where he talked about sloonei/jay mutual TRs and how seriously they're taken or something though idk

this is probably just the usual day 1 jay tinfoil but that's where I'm at
The talk of jay’s tone and being hesitant both of which I’m not really seeing. Not really sure I understand the Sloonei comparison as a negative. They’ve always played kind of similar to me so it’s not really something I find suspicious.
I’m also not really sure I understand the Marmot vote comment. It reads to me that it’s making him also suspect marmot while simultaneously suspecting jay.
I didn't really get that from TSP's post in regards to sussing marmot from the voting comment with marmot/JJJ, it read like he suspects JJJ for voting Marmot. It's worth noting though that TSP elaborated later that he didn't have a read on Marmot.
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:23 pm Thanks JPIC. I’d be interested to hear more about Esooa, tedxtr, and TSP in particular.
Esooa - insistence on questioning people that townreads them makes me townread them unironically. Most mafia would take the free read then challenge it

ted - defended me in thread so it could be a bad read by me and he has pocketed me. However, i contrast his two games of his from my memory. In GoC, he tried to take charge and and wasn’t really suspected all game only for mech to out him. In MtG, he was heavily sussed all game and was a misyeet pretty early. I feel like it’s the same here

Tsp - gut read but the exchange with him and odd was peculiar a couple of pages which I didn’t really understand. His read on you which fingersplints brought up implied he had a bigger read on marmot than just null
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:11 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 pm
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:24 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine
Self-voting is what GoC marmot did. Should i be concerned?
Marmot has been self-voting for years.
Did he do that in MtG? Only other game i remember from marmot was simple arsonist where we wrecked nanook
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:01 am
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:26 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 pm My only experience of marmot is that he is silly when mafia and pretty serious when town. My sample size is only three games so I acknowledge i need more data.
I've realized this as well and am attempting to make them more consistent. :noble:
What is this
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:13 am
tutuu wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:56 am @Justplayingitcool who mafia
BoKnows
TSP
Marmot
Odd
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:15 am
tutuu wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:02 am marmot is scummy as town and scummy as maf
Wrong. Marmot was very scummy in GoC and townie in Simple Arsonist/MtG
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:45 pm I'm not voting for Long Con today, his efforts look normal and believable.
I don't really get this post. LC isn't even a wagon.
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:08 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:06 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:01 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:49 pm There were a couple players I wanted to ISO last night and LC was one of them.
why
I believe he had votes at the time even though he doesn't now.
I don’t really remember LC being a wagon at any point tbh? Maybe I am misremembering

Having said that, wouldn’t you have adjusted checking isos based on the new wagons. Your original post just feels very out of place
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:08 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:05 pm
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:01 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:00 pm [VOTE: Al] aubergine

This is the best of the current wagons.
Do you genuinely believe Al is the scummiest active wagon or is this self pres?

Also this wording implies there is someone who you'd rather see exed over Al but who isn't an active wagon. Who is it?

If this game happens to be multi-ball, Nanook and spf should be given another look. They were both suspicions I had earlier on before they claimed mason.
Wut
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:15 pm I’d rather yeet Bo but im not against yeeting marmot or al

There's a certain progression here that works okay for me. JPIC ended up being a somewhat vocal anti-Marmot player on Day 1, but it wasn't always that way. He seemed to work his way to that point as a product of other dialogues and suspicions, particularly those pertaining to TSP. Eventually he arrived at Marmot suspicion, augmented by such goofing as the self-vote and the unprompted Long Con defense. I think it looks the right way and doesn't smell of distancing. I'm not extremely confident on that, but it's still a pronounced lean.

"Technically compatible" but probably not teammates is my assessment.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:19 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
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Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:05 pm If this game happens to be multi-ball, Nanook and spf should be given another look. They were both suspicions I had earlier on before they claimed mason.
Quick wifomburger for the gang: this was 55 minutes to EOD. Was Marmot literally telling us he suspected those two of being on the opposing mafia team? If so, I don't care much about his read, but it would imply they're not Kansas City. :goofp:
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:11 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
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Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:06 pm i am off work if anyone wants to chat about certain reads!

i will be mostly giving my brain a break from this game tonight, though. i did not realize that the thread would be open during the night and i like having that time to recharge & pull myself away from the game
If you feel up to it (you've earned a break), it'd be cool to know what you think of the Marmot/fingersplints interaction. I just reviewed it up there. I know fingersplints is a read of interest to you more than most.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:04 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
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Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:04 pm @JaggedJimmyJay can you do an analysis of KZA and marmot please? I'd do it but I'd end up butchering it and leave people more confused.
That's definitely on the agenda.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:03 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
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Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Interactions: Marmot and fingersplints

From Marmot

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Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:12 pm
fingersplints wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:11 pm I still think tsp is most suspicious, but I think Marmot doesn’t look great, and I’m ok with that lynch as well. A lot of my suspicion of tsp stems from their talk of Marmot such as suspecting jay for voting their before calling their read on Marmot null and finally moving their vote their abruptly.
What about Al?

That's it. And I actually think it's a somewhat telling post. It's 48 minutes pre-EOD. I had missed it in my AL review because my search was thrown off by the question mark. fingersplints' suspicion of TSP was in part driven by his treatment of Marmot. It's a reasonable mindset for splints to justify having Marmot as the "okay with that chop as well" option between the two. Marmot's response looks to me like someone talking to a non-teammate, as much as a two-word post can at least. Whatever AL's association with Marmot, I get that impression. If AL is not aligned with Marmot, then this looks like aw, but what about that other counterwagon? as some feigned investment in the hunting interests of someone semi-threatening his safety (in a way that I don't think traces fluidly back to a mafia chat). If AL is mafia with Marmot, then it looks like a smear designed to make splints look compatible with AL.

It's one post, so grain of salt blah blah.

From fingersplints

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fingersplints wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:31 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:21 am
fingersplints wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:15 am Up to page 24 now, I don’t agree with the suspicion of Jay (from TonyStarkPrime) and Alison (from staypositivefriend).
Both seem pretty townie to me right now.
TonyStarkPrime’s seems more flimsy out of the two, but I still have more to go. We’ll see
What was flimsy about it?
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:56 pm A few things have thrown me off from the beginning but his current vote for Marmot is something that inclines me to think that way as well. I also just don't think his iso is carrying the proper tone and I'm wondering if his read on sloonei was developed improperly. He also also seems hesistant to say things that I wouldn't usually think he'd be hesitant to say. I did like the post he made where he talked about sloonei/jay mutual TRs and how seriously they're taken or something though idk

this is probably just the usual day 1 jay tinfoil but that's where I'm at
The talk of jay’s tone and being hesitant both of which I’m not really seeing. Not really sure I understand the Sloonei comparison as a negative. They’ve always played kind of similar to me so it’s not really something I find suspicious.
I’m also not really sure I understand the Marmot vote comment. It reads to me that it’s making him also suspect marmot while simultaneously suspecting jay.
fingersplints wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:12 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:58 am
fingersplints wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:31 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:21 am
fingersplints wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:15 am Up to page 24 now, I don’t agree with the suspicion of Jay (from TonyStarkPrime) and Alison (from staypositivefriend).
Both seem pretty townie to me right now.
TonyStarkPrime’s seems more flimsy out of the two, but I still have more to go. We’ll see
What was flimsy about it?
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:56 pm A few things have thrown me off from the beginning but his current vote for Marmot is something that inclines me to think that way as well. I also just don't think his iso is carrying the proper tone and I'm wondering if his read on sloonei was developed improperly. He also also seems hesistant to say things that I wouldn't usually think he'd be hesitant to say. I did like the post he made where he talked about sloonei/jay mutual TRs and how seriously they're taken or something though idk

this is probably just the usual day 1 jay tinfoil but that's where I'm at
The talk of jay’s tone and being hesitant both of which I’m not really seeing. Not really sure I understand the Sloonei comparison as a negative. They’ve always played kind of similar to me so it’s not really something I find suspicious.
I’m also not really sure I understand the Marmot vote comment. It reads to me that it’s making him also suspect marmot while simultaneously suspecting jay.
I didn't really get that from TSP's post in regards to sussing marmot from the voting comment with marmot/JJJ, it read like he suspects JJJ for voting Marmot. It's worth noting though that TSP elaborated later that he didn't have a read on Marmot.
That makes more sense. I was confused why they would want to follow someone they suspected. I still don’t really like the vague suspicion of Jay, and I’ll need to see more about his later comments about Marmot that you mentioned, because I’m still not sure why if you don’t have a read on someone a vote against them would be a factor. But I’ll see how it’s explained as the thread progresses
fingersplints wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:08 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:31 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:28 pm Tsp - gut read but the exchange with him and odd was peculiar a couple of pages which I didn’t really understand. His read on you which fingersplints brought up implied he had a bigger read on marmot than just null
This is worth exploring. @TonyStarkPrime please tell me about Marmot.
If you read TSP posts they are a bit all over the place in their feeling on Marmot. Suspecting you for your vote on Marmot, next calling their read on Marmot null, before voting for Marmot themselves.
fingersplints wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:30 pm @JaggedJimmyJay I need some more work on the last group, but right now this is where I feel right now. Sorry making dinner and can’t do colours

These people I feel very good about
JJJ
Sloonei
Alison
Falcon
Strawhenge

These people I feel good/ok about right now
Esooa
BoKnows
JPIC

This person has not posted
Dom

These people I feel ok but sometimes wary about due to posting styles
Nanook
Long Con

I don’t remember what the term PoE that you all keep using means but perhaps it’s applicable here. This group I either have mild bad feelings about or are neutral to the point of wary/need revisiting.
Tedextr
Staypositivefriend
Oddmerta
KZA
MacDougall
Marmot
Tutuu
Michelle
Al Sama

This person right now is my biggest suspect
TSP
fingersplints wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:15 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:12 pm
fingersplints wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:11 pm I still think tsp is most suspicious, but I think Marmot doesn’t look great, and I’m ok with that lynch as well. A lot of my suspicion of tsp stems from their talk of Marmot such as suspecting jay for voting their before calling their read on Marmot null and finally moving their vote their abruptly.
What about Al?
Posts haven’t seen especially townie, but not my top suspect. I wouldn’t be opposed to the lynch, but not sure I’d be ready to vote there

Here you get a little more of fingersplints' thought process regarding TSP and Marmot. I view much of it as tangential. She featured Marmot on a pseudo POE list alongside 8 others, "tied" for second most suspicious behind Tony. That doesn't do anything for me. The last post there shows her own response to the thing I talked about in Marmot's spoiler. It's a small moment and interpretations may vary, but I don't really think this looks like fingersplints talking to her mafia teammate.

~~~

Overall I'd say they're "technically compatible", but it doesn't feel right to me. She would be a secondary or tertiary Marmot teammate suspect.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:43 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]
Replies: 12241
Views: 185290

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Interactions: Marmot and BoKnows

From Marmot

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Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:47 pm
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:37 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:34 pmWhat'd I miss?
idk just do what I do and read what's in front of me and read back if u gotta.

Yah I'll order off your menu, what're you having?
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:21 pm
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:18 pm Marmot is giving me good vibes.

Are you flavored town this game?
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:46 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:43 pm my most hot take right now is that i find boknows mildly villagery

Ah yes, that is hot
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:59 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:56 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:55 pm OOOOH yea jpiccie smart pat pat jpiccie

yea bo sorry but jpic caught u
when?

Don't worry about it. It's too late for you :hug:
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:28 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:28 pm
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:26 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:25 pm [VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

Confirmed scum. Get him outta here!
That's something a scum would say tbh

Then my vote is in the perfect spot.
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:31 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:22 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:21 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 pm My only experience of marmot is that he is silly when mafia and pretty serious when town. My sample size is only three games so I acknowledge i need more data.
This is true based on the one game I saw him as Mafia
Which game was that?
Shadow Corridors

he was known as Thundercat, some sort of villainous alter ego of his I'm sure

Side note, since you bring this up. I wonder if @BoKnows ever realized he and I were teammates in that game.

Thundercat is a slappin bassist.
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:30 am
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:44 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:38 pm Can you expand your thoughts on Odd, and Straw please?
My read on Oddmerta is a bit of a product of my other reads. A lot of my town reads have to be wrong about Oddmerta for him to be mafia, and I don't think he's that suspicious myself anyway. If one of my town reads that has vouched for Oddmerta ends up mafia, perhaps that'll be something to revisit later. For now I'm fine with him.

Strawhenge is probably the easiest read on the board for me. His posts radiate the purity of a player returning after five years away from Mafia with a town role card, uncertainty about how to get into business, and an admirable motor to do it anyway.
I'm a huge fan of the Odd reasoning tbh. It reminds me of synthetic CDOs. You're betting (reading) on other peoples reads and hoping it all falls in place. Is there anything in Odds content that makes you believe he's town?

I do agree with this. I also think if Straw randed wolf in his first game back in five years he would be playing a little more conservative and not sticking out his neck like he did earlier today.

What's a CDO?
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:34 am TSP and Bo I think are town due to volume and content. Bo in particular seems extremely comfortable and fluid here to an extent that I've never seen from himn, and he's been the Day 1 yeet in multiple recent games.
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:17 pm
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:15 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:07 pm Marmot is not a good chop today, but Marmot is probably a more expendable option
why you being sussed?
Ask them, I no longer find myself suspicious

From Marmot's side this is an extremely chummy dialogue. I think that makes sense; I view Bo and Marmot as similar Mafia play personalities. It figures that they'd get on as bonafide silly billies. None of this makes me feel inclined to dissociate the two of them. I highlighted one comment that could be meaningful, but I'm not entirely sure how it's meaningful. It's a frivolous town read, but one that had also been growing increasingly popular for Bo. I think it's possible enough that this was solely a matter of riding the thread wave, and as such I don't take much from it.

From BoKnows

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BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:37 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:34 pmWhat'd I miss?
idk just do what I do and read what's in front of me and read back if u gotta.
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:18 pm Marmot is giving me good vibes.
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:22 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:21 pm
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:18 pm Marmot is giving me good vibes.

Are you flavored town this game?
do you consider vanilla a flavour?
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:24 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:23 pm BK has posted several broken images, so signs point to scum XD
:kadaj:
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:41 pm marmot's vibes faded away. thinking the source of the vibes are from the pfp, love it.
=====================================================================================
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:57 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:56 pm A few things have thrown me off from the beginning but his current vote for Marmot is something that inclines me to think that way as well. I also just don't think his iso is carrying the proper tone and I'm wondering if his read on sloonei was developed improperly. He also also seems hesistant to say things that I wouldn't usually think he'd be hesitant to say. I did like the post he made where he talked about sloonei/jay mutual TRs and how seriously they're taken or something though idk

this is probably just the usual day 1 jay tinfoil but that's where I'm at
@JaggedJimmyJay Seems pretty run of the mill to me. He admitted it was "usual day 1 tinfoil", it can also be seen as hedging though. At this time Marmot had what 0-5 posts and you voted for him, gonna call it RVS for the sake of labelling that vote. I don't know how a read is developed properly and inproperly tbh so no comment. (Is that even a thing?). The second part is meta, and I got no meta on you. I wish he supplied this read with examples though. Sorta seems like TSP is thinking outloud with this one. Like I said run of the mill day 1 "throw something togehter" read.
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:02 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:59 am Let's play a game:

Is this low-hanging fruit, or is this a justifiable suspect?

AL_sama
BoKnows
fingersplints
JPIC
KZA
Long Con
Marmot
tedxtr

I extract these specific names because they strike me as applicable to the question -- either facing generic suspicions or otherwise pretty blank slates.
AL_sama - null
BoKnows - Town
fingersplints - low-hanging
JPIC - null
KZA - low-hanging
Long Con - low-hanging
Marmot - null
tedxtr - null

I don't have a solid scum suspect yet, but Oddmerta is starting to cross my mind
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:58 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:48 pm Alison
JaggedJimmyJay

falcon
MacDougall

Sloonei
tutuu
SPF
Oddmerta
Michelle
fingersplints
Dom
TSP
tedxtr
Long Con
nanook
JPIC
KZA
Esooa
Marmot
BoKnows
Why Eooaa, marmot and I?
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:04 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:00 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:58 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:48 pm(snip)
Why Eooaa, marmot and I?
I made notes in the spoiler box.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:58 pm You DID inspire the siren button, Strawhenge, those years ago.
YUP. TEARS. :,)
Okay, so it's based on that you think Marmot is scum and me saying that I have good vibes about marmot immediately followed up with that the vibes wore off and it was due to the pfp?
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:07 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:04 pm Strawhenge raises an interesting observation:
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:18 pm Marmot is giving me good vibes.
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:41 pm marmot's vibes faded away. thinking the source of the vibes are from the pfp, love it.
The space between these posts occupies 24 minutes of time, and during those 24 minutes (and just prior to the first Bo post) Marmot made one of his more substantive appearances in the game thread. Bo, what about Marmot's posts in that space changed your view?
Nothing about his posts it was just a vibe.
Please, to the best of your ability, describe the original good vibes and then the changed vibes.
Marmot came in and felt light hearted. Then he got semi serious so the feel good vibe faded I guess. His pfp adds to the feel good vibes.
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:35 pm Falcon

JaggedJimmyJay
Sloonei
Alison
Tutuu

Fingersplints
Nanook
Esooa
KZA
MacDougall
Dom
Marmot
Long Con
JPIC
Tedextr
Michelle
Al Sama

TSP
Strawhenge
SPF

Odd
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:58 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:58 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:04 pm Okay, so it's based on that you think Marmot is scum and me saying that I have good vibes about marmot immediately followed up with that the vibes wore off and it was due to the pfp?
My feeling about you was regardless of my feeling of Marmot. It was that you switched from having 'good vibes' to 'not good vibes' after Alison said Marmot was part of a scummy exchange. The timing seems really convenient.
Okay
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:00 pm
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:59 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:56 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:55 pm OOOOH yea jpiccie smart pat pat jpiccie

yea bo sorry but jpic caught u
when?

Don't worry about it. It's too late for you :hug:
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:23 pm
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:22 pm It's now popular to suspect and POE yourself.

Pretty soon, everyone will be self-voting :feb:
Why don't you take the lead on this trend?
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:15 am
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:31 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:22 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:21 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 pm My only experience of marmot is that he is silly when mafia and pretty serious when town. My sample size is only three games so I acknowledge i need more data.
This is true based on the one game I saw him as Mafia
Which game was that?
Shadow Corridors

he was known as Thundercat, some sort of villainous alter ego of his I'm sure

Side note, since you bring this up. I wonder if @BoKnows ever realized he and I were teammates in that game.

Thundercat is a slappin bassist.
First time hearing about this
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:32 pm
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:28 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:02 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:56 pm

Does it concern you that you seem to read half the consensus POE pool as civilian?

No, I'd prefer if the consensus was right over myself being right anyway.
So you're not concerned if someone you view as civilian ends up getting chopped (other than yourself)?

I'm playing a game of mafia where I'm surrounded by players of a higher skill level than I. If enough players conclude something that I don't see eye-to-eye with and they're right, then no I'm not concerned.
I don't know what to do with this laissez-faire mindset. I don't see this much if ever.
This is just a fancy way of saying "the wagon is probably correct because everyone on it is town".
I agree with Marmot on this. Idc if one of my town reads gets chopped with good reason.
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:18 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:17 pm
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:15 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:07 pm Marmot is not a good chop today, but Marmot is probably a more expendable option
why you being sussed?
Ask them, I no longer find myself suspicious
okay marmot
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:39 pm 1) Do we believe that AL_sama is indeed caught up?

2) Do we believe that AL_sama has been catching up?

3) Do we believe that tedxtr is a believable vote?
1) No - gave no insight on his read.
2) Yes
3) Yes
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:39 pm Marmot has moved up one slot in the official tsp ranked poe.
Reason being?
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:47 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:45 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:34 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:33 pm
i dislike this POE because i am in it
I dislike that this is your first post in an hour and a half

Not everyone can 400 post on Day 1 and post at a higher frequency than that
Bo I liked this particular post from marmot, which Jay thinks (correctly) has no reason to exist
I agree not everyone has access to post as often

I put a big row of equals signs in there to sort of cordon off a specific portion of interest. Strawhenge first noticed this exchange, and it's a somewhat curious progression. Marmot had done very little prior, and during this brief period he'd actually started to make Real Posts of a sort. That's what turned off Bo, and it came right on the heels of Marmot getting a little shit from Alison. It feels like a bit of a reach to call this "damage control" or something like that, as an effort to distance, but it's reasonably possible. He talked about this a bit when I prodded him (highlighted in orange). The rest of it up to and through EOD is kinda nothing.

I can't clear Bo as a Marmot teammate. Gun to my head I probably say no, but for the moment I don't have a gun to my head.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:18 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Interactions: Marmot and AL_sama

From Marmot

Spoiler: show
Marmot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:28 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:24 pm
AL_sama wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:19 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:11 pm @AL_sama what do you have to say for yourself?
I don't think I need to or ca say anything when I did nothing at all
Well this is pretty evasive.

The original question doesn't lend itself to a simple answer.
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:30 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:12 am - This whole interaction to start with. I didn't think much of it to start with but it just feels like random filler which seems to be a frequency of BK.
- The iso of Al felt random and forced
- his reaction to mac's cop claim was scummy and felt fake

- I don't think point one is necessarily AI. Many players fill the game with fluff and will do it as town.
- I didn't see the Al iso, but I'll look at it.
- I do agree about the Mac cop post thingy. Well sorta. I think that reaction looks more nervous than fake.
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm I do not feel like TSP is the right place to vote today.
Immediate vibes on these folks please:

AL_sama
Marmot
tedxtr
No read
Town
Town
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:38 pm
AL_sama wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:36 pm ok finally caught up

no matter how I see it I can't see a townie ted playing like this so

vote lynch ted

Puts on JJJ specs

I dislike that this is your first post in some large amount of time.
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:41 pm If AL was catching/caught up, I would expect more than just the ted observation

I also disagree on that slot

From AL_sama

Spoiler: show
AL_sama wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:11 pm jjj looks townie but feels he could pull it off even if he is scum
alison is giving similar vibes as jjj
tututu is null for me right now
ted isn't playing his usual town game
michelle from what little she posted looks town bit would love to see or from her
falcon looks townie
KZA null
mac townie maybe
esona null
stou looks townie
odd with the way he dipped is making me think he is scum
long con null
marmot null
TSP slight scum lean
straw looks townie
stay null
fingers null
JPIC null
boknows slight scum lean
AL_sama wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:36 pm ok finally caught up

no matter how I see it I can't see a townie ted playing like this so

vote lynch ted

I don't have a lot to say about most of these posts on an individual level. Marmot didn't do much with AL until the very end of the day phase, and AL did exactly nothing with Marmot until the same period (and perhaps nothing even then). In the end, we're left assessing vote patterns, which I tend to loathe.

Marmot placed a self-preservation vote on AL. I believe in that moment Marmot held a 6-3-3-3 vote lead over AL, Tony, and ted. So take note then that he voted AL among the three to emphasize that as the 6-4 counterwagon. AL's own vote came later, when the poll was tied 5-5 between Marmot and AL himself. Rather than place his self-preservation vote on Marmot to give his premier counterwagon the lead, he voted for ted instead. That made the wagons 5-5-4. I think this is at least a teammate-compatible vote considering the strength of Marmot's role. If they expected to lose one out of two or three possible members, I suspect Marmot was not the one they wanted to lose.

I'm not exonerating AL_sama. He can be Marmot's teammate and is a high candidate.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:00 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Okay I'm home. Now, due to the immense chip on my shoulder of not being recognized as the amazing and wonderful JJJ that I am, I will begin a thorough pursuit of my civilian victory.

Spoiler: show
Don't take that seriously, I'm silly
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:35 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

EXTREME BUMMER. PROBABLY FOR THE BEST.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:32 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Damn gang. I’ve been out for a walk for the last two hours and it’s just fantastic. If weather permits I encourage y’all to capitalize on Outside for a bit. It’s good for the soul, and it might even be good for your Mafia play.

:bliss:
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:58 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Soupkill sounds super broken with two teams. Mafia ain’t claiming real roles. Hope not
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:39 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Esooa wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:38 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:37 pm i need to present my "Life Motto" to my coworkers in a work meeting in an hour. i have absolutely zero idea what quote i should put. does anyone have any suggestions?

this is totally serious. i am at a loss.
"send it"
im gay
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:33 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Just had a vague intuition that fingersplints might be a better mafia fit with two teams. Will investigate.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:24 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

I will say that I cannot vouch for Sloonei quite as fervently with multiple mafia teams. The legitimacy of his hunt is half the read.

Doesn’t mean I think he’s mafia though. Still doubt
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:12 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:11 pm I was thinking 16:3:3 tbh
Sounds bad but also great
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:10 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Quick note on numbers:

22 players lends itself appropriately to 14:4:4 or 13:4:4:1
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

@Kansas City Mafia team

You should definitely kill someone you suspect to be Gerhardt Mafia. Until we get a flip for both mafia teams, you’re going to face a severe hunting imbalance in the thread. You’re simply easier to find.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:55 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Two teams opens many doors that one team did not open. Anyone can hunt authentically. Some do so with restrictions.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:52 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:50 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:44 pm
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:41 pm But TSP still tried to exe obvious town to save Marmot so I don't care. He's scum.
literally I do not see straw as obvious town and the only reason I didn't put them in my poe is because I see michelle as less obvious town than them and I do not understand how I'm suspicious for thinking that you're probably town when real town would be more paranoid and not thinking that straw, who has very few town bonafides, is obvious town
Strawhenge is a much clearer soul read in this specific game than Alison. Context matters. I struggle to believe you here.
I haven't pushed alison though
That’s not relevant. You said you don’t understand why you can’t be paranoid about Strawhenge but you have to be paranoid about Alison.

Strawhenge is obvious. Alison is less obvious. No matter what she posts in this thread, she cannot match [first game in five years]. Context matters.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:50 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Anyway, I won’t get myself wrapped up in the adrenaline dialogue. I love the energy, but I will hunt my way with detached analysis.

Later. My head hurts.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:48 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:44 pm
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:41 pm But TSP still tried to exe obvious town to save Marmot so I don't care. He's scum.
literally I do not see straw as obvious town and the only reason I didn't put them in my poe is because I see michelle as less obvious town than them and I do not understand how I'm suspicious for thinking that you're probably town when real town would be more paranoid and not thinking that straw, who has very few town bonafides, is obvious town
Strawhenge is a much clearer soul read in this specific game than Alison. Context matters. I struggle to believe you here.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:43 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Their obvious self-preservation wagon was Marmot. They were tied.

They voted ted.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:42 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

AL_sama’s EOD is very team-friendly with Marmot.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:38 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

TSP’s worst crime was pretending Strawhenge was suspicious for his Marmot uncertainty and using that as an excuse to not vote Marmot.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:35 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:33 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:57 pm [VOTE: AL_sama] aubergine
Why are you voting this after the CC?
CC was a joke so it meant little to me. I think they’re both mafia and let my vote fart between them until settling on Marmot.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:32 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

@TonyStarkPrime is there an appropriate flavor mafia team other than Kansas City?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:28 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:27 pm why can we post
Open night phases
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:27 pm
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I’ll do larger-scale interaction later. Immediate overconfident assumption is that AL self-preserved to ted instead of his teammate.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:25 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]

Okay that team has a name.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:11 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

THREAD IS LOCKED

CEASE POSTING

STAFF TOO
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:08 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Image
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:04 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

MacDougall wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:04 pm
Hally wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:03 pm nonzero chance these were w/w wagons and marmot got bussed because he has the worse role
Haha ok
jaja si
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:03 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:02 pm GG beautiful people
:hugs:
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:01 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

After Marmot flips beautiful scarlet, I still don't believe it's multiball.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:00 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:58 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:58 pm There's no way Mac has my role, I'm confused as hell rn, are you being serious?
no he's not being serious smh your fake claim is safe

Your theory about multiball is correct.
XD
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:59 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Good luck and god bless.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:58 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:58 pm might switch to marmot idk I sorta get the feeling marmot just got townspewed by straw
no
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:58 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:57 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:56 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:56 pm The more I've been thinking about it, the more I don't like Marmot as scum. There needs to be more town stuff, but the past hour has been giving me vibes. I don't think he's the right chop.
please cfd this pls
no
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:57 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

[VOTE: AL_sama] aubergine
by JaggedJimmyJay
Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:56 pm
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Hally wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:55 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:54 pm
Hally wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:52 pm @Marmot claim
Oh right, this thing.


I'm Chief Gibson. If I predict the following day's yeet, I get a small powerup.
i don’t know what to do with this
irrelevant to me

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