The Syndicate

Mac is bad because Mac isn't his usual self
Mac is bad because mac is salty
Mac is bad because mac is voting sig
Mac is bad because mac is what?
Mac is toxic.
Mac is attacking people.
Oh gee how bad is it that Mac has legs.
Did you guys notice Mac has arms? Fucking gotem.
Mac has a beard. That's awfully suspicious, don't you think?
Mac isn't a dog. By deduction he is Mafia.
Mac is an abstract concept, pretty much a red peek.
It's fucking ridiculous.

just lynch me I don't need this shit in my life

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:32 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:30 am This is the weirdest situation I've ever found myself in. I feel like I'm being gaslighted.

How and by whom?

No matter what I say or do sig, Dom, Nanook, Jack, Sprityo and you are just constantly repeating that I am bad and some of you are layering it with personally attacking me and I'm just super confused and starting to not enjoy myself. I'm used to having to defend myself but this is truly obscene.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:12 am And by extension how bad it is that Mac is for realzies voting him?

I'm sorry I didn't realise the deadline was approaching so fast that there wasn't time for memes.

This is the weirdest situation I've ever found myself in. I feel like I'm being gaslighted.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:07 am Even tying me to Radish is fundamentally a flawed thing since the vast movement on him was the day when I couldn't contribute.

Also nah Mac's gotta go, his flip to lynch me after civ reading me just further cements my read here.

Mafia. Serious business.

Seriously I am in a no win position sig so I am just trying to enjoy myself.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:06 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:05 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:04 am And with him going hard after Mac who likely is bad on the other team, will net him a pelt and some credit.

Yeah I'm turning around fast on sig.

Fuck yeah let's do it. [VOTE: sig] aubergine

Shocker, mac decided to vote for someone who's going after him. This has never ever happened before.

Yes I am very much alone in that

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:04 am And with him going hard after Mac who likely is bad on the other team, will net him a pelt and some credit.

Yeah I'm turning around fast on sig.

Fuck yeah let's do it. [VOTE: sig] aubergine

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:56 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:52 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:57 pm Hey nanook here's my biggest problem with you. You keep using that weird af shrug emoji in every single post when we have not one but TWO excellent shrug emoji of our own. One of which was made by our own esteemed host Long Con.

We could lynch nutella again? She seems super comfortable. Maybe she's on the other team.

Let's see okay mac I want you to do the following.
1. Go to inbox
2. See if in your Role Pm you have nutella 2.0 listed as a teammate.
2A If yes vote for yourself.
2B If no then she's civ, and your mafia, vote for yourself.
3. Live it up as a ghost and hunt down team 2 so civs can win.

Nah just a chatzy link in here

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:57 pm Hey nanook here's my biggest problem with you. You keep using that weird af shrug emoji in every single post when we have not one but TWO excellent shrug emoji of our own. One of which was made by our own esteemed host Long Con.

We could lynch nutella again? She seems super comfortable. Maybe she's on the other team.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:48 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:32 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:25 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:20 am I have major deadlines to honor, and there's no way I'm going to be able to keep up with this right now. I'm going to extract myself for the time being and just pop in for a look when I can. I think things are going swimmingly, so y'all carry on. If you want my take on something, @ me and ideally link me to something. I will try to get to it. Otherwise I will observe for myself.

I compared our results and we both said sig looks like a compatible Radishes teammate. Gimme a quick take on that.

Inb4 mac says emoji tell





(Emoji tell is highkey a town tell for sig )

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:46 pm Nutella 1.0 voted for jack

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:43 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:52 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:25 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:15 pm I think we should hunt as if we don't have a great lead and then assess as we go?

How does one do that exactly?

...not by ruling out someone simply because they aren't on one of the two baddie teams.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:36 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:15 pm I think we should hunt as if we don't have a great lead and then assess as we go?

This is not someone trying to actually solve the game.
This is someone looking to antagonize anyone who disagrees into exhaustion.

You literally just said to abandon all of our leads?

Dare I suggest that Mac and Dom ignore each other for the time being? There's plenty of mafia to go around. Just a suggestion.

Ok dad

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:35 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:32 pm Convince me on tranq and michelle. I feel nothing about the former and townread the latter (though less so than before as I haven't seen much from her lately)

I can't remember why I thought tranq was bad. I probably was just piggy backing someone elses suspicions. Michelle is just not on her meta.

what is michelle's meta and why/how is she not on it?

She is an active, sensible, rational presence generally.

aka

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:24 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine I'm not seeing town fire in her

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:52 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:25 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:15 pm I think we should hunt as if we don't have a great lead and then assess as we go?

How does one do that exactly?

...not by ruling out someone simply because they aren't on one of the two baddie teams.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:36 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:15 pm I think we should hunt as if we don't have a great lead and then assess as we go?

This is not someone trying to actually solve the game.
This is someone looking to antagonize anyone who disagrees into exhaustion.

You literally just said to abandon all of our leads?

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:15 pm I think we should hunt as if we don't have a great lead and then assess as we go?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:10 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:07 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:56 pm @sig you saw my post, please can you explain how this night result proves any specific person bad?

I don't know what any of you are talking about.

Linki @ nutella I did read it if I don't know what a janitor is that doesn't help me lol

A combination of the last two nights plus his general tone/other things I touched on N1.

So here's how it went down.

N1 I made posts about Mac I was then given one post for 2 day. Which is Satima's power. I think Mac/his team was the most likely to use this on me given whom I was calling out mainly him.

linki: I see people already answered.

Mr. TunnelMac, I was not here on night 1 at all. I didn't even know that you were suspicious of me.

That's a nothing argument all the way.


There is no way to p[rove or since you have a team of 3 more they weren't here.


Really and this is probably the reason why Mac was so salty about it last phase. He could've had nothing to do with this at all, it could've been his teammates decisions and I just linked him to it vs them.

Either way Mac is mafia take it to the bank.

So now you're entertaining the idea that your actual reasoning is irrelevant but I am still mafia. That is the literal definition of tunneling.

What gives you the impression I am salty?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:07 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:56 pm @sig you saw my post, please can you explain how this night result proves any specific person bad?

I don't know what any of you are talking about.

Linki @ nutella I did read it if I don't know what a janitor is that doesn't help me lol

A combination of the last two nights plus his general tone/other things I touched on N1.

So here's how it went down.

N1 I made posts about Mac I was then given one post for 2 day. Which is Satima's power. I think Mac/his team was the most likely to use this on me given whom I was calling out mainly him.

linki: I see people already answered.

Mr. TunnelMac, I was not here on night 1 at all. I didn't even know that you were suspicious of me.

I've got work to do, I'll come back and hopefully the We Hate Mac club work it out of their system by then.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:57 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:50 pm I don't understand any of this. "Janitor", how this proves Mac is bad, any of it.

I feel ignorant. Can someone explain this to me like I'm an ignoramus cause obviously I am.

Basically saitama has a one time janitor (hides flip) which was clearly used on dizzy (otherwise default is roles flip, i know yours not used to that). The theory is mac is saitama and used his one time ability bc he is in danger of being lynched. And it just adds to sig's pre-existing theory that Mac one-posted him.

I'm not one for NKA but why would I kill dyslexicon?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:55 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:54 pm I'll be ISOing and laying things out about Mac again later, if everyone else doesn't pursue it then meh whatever.

G-man yea different teams.

Sig you're starting to make me think that you're actually scum now lol.

and why is that.

Because you have no reads aside from me.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:54 pm I'll be ISOing and laying things out about Mac again later, if everyone else doesn't pursue it then meh whatever.

G-man yea different teams.

Sig you're starting to make me think that you're actually scum now lol.

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:53 pm Other than Dyslexicon dying, that was a good night post. I hope my idiocy didn’t help put a target on your back.

I’m not following the team compatibility here, and I need to try to go back and find some of it. Is it being suggested that when it was Mac vs Radish that it was trains on two people from the same team?

TMI on Dyslexicon as town.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:45 pm The irony of this all is that you're gonna wagon me to near death within an hour of the day starting, but by the day's end we'll lynch someone else. You'll see.

Ok Jack.

Jack calls himself unlynchable. I am just saying that I won't get lynched today.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:50 pm I don't understand any of this. "Janitor", how this proves Mac is bad, any of it.

I feel ignorant. Can someone explain this to me like I'm an ignoramus cause obviously I am.

Because there's nothing to understand. Sig and Sprityo are both giving off immense small dick energy right now and Nutella is just humouring them to see how I react.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:46 pm Oh gee guys we've got two scumflips to work through! I know! Let's lynch exactly the only player who literally cannot be teammates with either of them!

Yea, your on the other team.

Of course we should still spend the phase hunting out that team, but there's no reason not to lynch you. And weaken both mafias.

That would be so if I was mafia, but alas.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:43 pm This is like a tragedy of sorts.

Sprityo and Sig, banded together to fight their common arch nemesis that has bested them at every turn for years and years finally have him cornered. Mac cowers in fear as they bear down on him and raise their swords together as one. He is truly bested. They strike down upon him as one, slicing him, twixt and twain.

Except if town ever bothered to listen to me, before you killed/silenced me we'd have always won.

You'd be gone and we'd be pursuing your team today if not for the fact I was silenced and couldn't push your lynch. I mean it worked out with Radish flipping mafia. Buuuuuut, now it's time to flip two teams.

You're taking this "Mac being nice and complimentary to sig" thing to an unfortunate place now buddy.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:44 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:39 pm Worst case Mac isn't mafia we have one mislynch.

BUT say we don't lynch him and let him keep rolling along, they'll keep killing civs and eventually we won't be able to win at all. This is when we still have a margin of error.

More importantly there are 2 roles Sprityo has at this point. If Mac isn't mafia (Very slim chance) Then Sprityo is one of the last members of Anti-Monitors. Potentially last since I still think it's possible Dizzy was mafia.

I mean Sprityo is definitely mafia, so you can go ahead and lynch me and flip that fool afterwards. I am comfortable with death at this point.

Yeah because you used your role LMAO


Oopsie

No, because I avoided getting mislynched and got a scum lynched in my place which no doubt led to the death of a second one. I'm civ MVP even if you lynch me now.

Oh gee guys we've got two scumflips to work through! I know! Let's lynch exactly the only player who literally cannot be teammates with either of them!

The irony of this all is that you're gonna wagon me to near death within an hour of the day starting, but by the day's end we'll lynch someone else. You'll see.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:39 pm Worst case Mac isn't mafia we have one mislynch.

BUT say we don't lynch him and let him keep rolling along, they'll keep killing civs and eventually we won't be able to win at all. This is when we still have a margin of error.

More importantly there are 2 roles Sprityo has at this point. If Mac isn't mafia (Very slim chance) Then Sprityo is one of the last members of Anti-Monitors. Potentially last since I still think it's possible Dizzy was mafia.

I mean Sprityo is definitely mafia, so you can go ahead and lynch me and flip that fool afterwards. I am comfortable with death at this point.

This is like a tragedy of sorts.

Sprityo and Sig, banded together to fight their common arch nemesis that has bested them at every turn for years and years finally have him cornered. Mac cowers in fear as they bear down on him and raise their swords together as one. He is truly bested. They strike down upon him as one, slicing him, twixt and twain.

"We finally did it."

"It's... it's over?"

The two friends slump to the ground, exhausted and jubilant. But then Sprityo notices Mac holding a letter. He unfurls Mac's dead fingers from the scroll and unravels it.

"Oh... no..."

"What is it my chum!?" cries Sigmund.

"He was ... town." Sprityo utters breathlessly, the blood drained from his face.

Sig grabs the letter and reads it aloud.

"Did you really think you'd catch me as Mafia? That is some small dick shit right there."

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:32 pm Convince me on tranq and michelle. I feel nothing about the former and townread the latter (though less so than before as I haven't seen much from her lately)

I can't remember why I thought tranq was bad. I probably was just piggy backing someone elses suspicions. Michelle is just not on her meta.

sig & sprityo vs. mac

it's actually like the culmination of a several year arc when you think about it

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:30 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:24 pm Ladies and Gentlemen, we got him

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

Read this post, stop and think then realize what this means.

What do you think it means?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:27 pm IF Mac is mafia then both teams are effectively done. We can piece together the entire other baddie team based off yesterday.

We should be able to find the remaining two Anti-Moniter people based off the two flips as well.

Yes because if I was mafia I would not have anti-spewed the fuck out of things when I looked done for all money. Simple, simple sig.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:08 pm ColinIsCool
Dyslexicon
Turnip Head
juliets
S~V~S
Epignosis
TonyStarkPrime
Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr
sig
Dragomir
speedchuck
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2.0
Michelle (a)
Tranq (a)
Jackofhearts2005 (b)
sabie12 (a/b)
Dom (b)
G-Man (b)
sprityo (b)

If anyone wants to actually get into some nitty gritty discussion I'm keen. If there are any reads here that are wtf let's talk.

[mention]nutella[/mention] since Sabie was on team b with radishes, I would start withy Tranq and Michelle.

Jack and Sprityo are both super compatible imo

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:24 pm Ladies and Gentlemen, we got him

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

jfc you guys are incorrigible

Anyone want to make poast

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:34 am I have no clue if Jack is town or not. My gut reaction would be town, but I think the only evidence to that end is the WIFOM “oh Jack wouldn’t go after Nutella if he were scum” to which I’ll point out that 1) he might and 2) he backed off.

This is a bad post regardless of Jack's alignment.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:25 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:18 am I would have to be super, super wrong about Jack for him to be bad.

Ditto. I’m open to the possibility, and I hope to ISO him myself soon, but I can’t bring myself to shake off my town read.

I keep noticing you earnestly replying to drivel you should be ignoring or eviscerating and I think I've caught you this way before.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:18 am I would have to be super, super wrong about Jack for him to be bad.

I'm not sure why you felt the need to say this. It's implicit that if one has a town read on scum that they are wrong.

I would have to be wrong for Jack to be town here. Yes, very insightful statement indeed.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:56 am By votes jack is a viable partner for radishes.

By tone he’s probably town.

By toan says noted Jack expert Nanook the conqueror.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:34 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:31 am I have no idea where I’d put my vote now. Maybe on Radishes but that feels like a cop out because I don’t suspect Radishes I just don’t see anything townie in him and he’s probably the player here whose game I have the weakest grasp of.

This is such a teammate thing to say, specifically the line "I don't suspect Radishes I just don't see anything townie in him"; that's how someone talks about their guilty friend

At least someone sees it...

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:41 am I’m going to float the idea that this game is chaotic because there are two scum teams trying to outdo each other. Anyone want to ask me why this is important?

How is this game any more or less chaotic than any other games? It hasn't felt chaotic to me at all.

I'd like to hear some non Mac talk from people who haven't said much. [mention]Epignosis[/mention] and [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] you guys have been unusually low key. Care to express yourselves?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:06 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:56 am I think pursuing a “who is teammates with Radish” line is just bad strategically. It’s what the other team wants to happen. Maybe it’s like

Town: 50
Master: 25
Anti-Monitor-25

on average and we change it to

Town: 60
Master: 40

by focusing on one faction, but I think friendly fire works to our advantage.

I’m more interested in who is scum without Radish.

This is a good point to keep in mind, but at the same time my mindset is always to try to lynch the player who I think is most likely to flip scum, and we now have a clearer path to hunt Radishes team. But focusing exclusively on that for several days is a big advantage to the other team.

The case against Mac still stands and he is almost definitely not on Radishes' team.

Oh yeah that case that isn't actually a case at all. Cool.

anyway if ya'll wanna let Jack cakewalk to a win with charisma again be my guest