Look at all this evidence of you not being a teammateJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:58 pmWhat exactly was the point?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:13 pmWtf, this is not the point, and you know it. You hiding behind a flipped town because you made the same action as him? Lol Jack. Lol.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:06 pm Like literally Nanook died and flipped town. How you gonna shade him for voting Nutella?
That Dom, Nanook and I were teamed with Radish?
That's stupid.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 2]
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 0]
Jack on Radish Day 1
Jack mention of Radish #1. Echoes a Jay read.
I see no reason to disqualify them as partners on this evidence.
Night 1 Stuff
Day 2 Stuff
Doesn't mention Radishes again the entire day.
Jack mention of Radish #1. Echoes a Jay read.
#2 asks TH to clarify his Radish suspicion. Goes nowhere with it/drops it.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:35 pmThis mirrors my thoughts as well.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:56 pm Radish has made a decent number of posts and none of them have inspired any feeling in me, so that's a net negative.
Can't figure out where to vote. Maybe Radishes but provides a weak reason not to and then doesn't.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:30 amI’m unlikely to move my vote today (especially to a player I’ve mostly see play 3p) but talk to me about Radish anyway.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:26 am I for one hate looking terrible but I'd rather lynch radish
Wants an explain on Radishes wagon, tries to push Dom instead (that sure went places).Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:31 am I have no idea where I’d put my vote now. Maybe on Radishes but that feels like a cop out because I don’t suspect Radishes I just don’t see anything townie in him and he’s probably the player here whose game I have the weakest grasp of.
Has Radishes red in a readslist. Apologies if this is just Jay's list copied again lol.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:37 pm Somebody explain the Radishes wagon.
I kinda want to lynch Dom.
Ends up voting for Nutella over Radishes in a straight tie.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:44 pm I think this is about where I'm at atm.
Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S
Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head
ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir
G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck
I see no reason to disqualify them as partners on this evidence.
Night 1 Stuff
Can teammates reply like this? Of course.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:25 pmThis is all fair (but I don’t have to give you cred for it cause lolmultiball) and I think Dom and Mac look worst off it.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:04 pm Out of time. Okay, let’s do this quickly - no links, soz. But trust me on my interpretation.
After Jack initiated the Nutella vote (bottom of page 11), it gained little traction. In fact, he mostly got flack at first – Mac and Sloonei both dismissed it, especially Mac (who called Nutella town and Jack scum in the space of a few posts.) Nutella counter-votes, and Epi and Sprit both join the Jack vote in their own time. But everyone was focusing on Nanookian satire instead.
Jack wouldn’t let it go, and as the discussion over Nanook wanes, Ted votes Nutella (‘page 12 was yucky’), whilst SVS and Dom vote Jack. It becomes the thread’s main focus for a couple pages. The Radish wagon picks up and kills it off, eventually. (Ted switches off at some point.)
Jack still doesn’t let it go, and some pages later Mac now (despite his earlier stance) declares Jack often right about this and nutella’s defence bad (but doesn’t vote there). Turnip Head, seemingly going off of Mac’s posts, votes Nutella (but only says ‘why not’). Epi questions Jack’s logic, but then a page later also votes Nutella (no reason given). Sig quickly also votes Nutella (‘reactions’). A bit later, Dom (reason unclear, but I think about ‘back peddling’) and Sabie (scum!Jack wouldn’t do this) also vote Nutella.
The wagon goes a bit stale, and Epi and Sig both jump off it.
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At its peak moment, the voters, by my count and in order, were: Jack, TH, Epi, Sig, Dom, Sabie [6]. It’s at this moment that there is very likely at least one scum on the wagon. The Nutella vote gained momentum fairly quickly, and was a duelling wagon with the one on me. Scum mentality is to nudge these sort of wagons, and I think it’s perfectly reasonable to work under the assumption there is at least one in this group.
All 5 non-Jack voters can appear to be opportunistic. TH, Epi, and Dom gave no reasons, whilst Sig and Sabie gave lacklustre reasons. (Also notable is Mac, who nudged it along without ever landing there.)
Of those names, I’m not sure one in particular stands out. I think Sig’s vote was the most egregious, but his macro play of all those names has been the greenest. At the moment I’m not entirely sure where I’d place a vote (and obviously can’t anyway), but GTH I’d say Sabie. Also not a fan of Mac’s play on this – inconsistent and never landed on the wagon or, conversely, showed progression away from it. Just blew on the sparks a bit.
And off to bed I go.
Day 2 Stuff
Explains why I am bad through aligning me with Radishes. Fairly thoroughly debunked since I reckon. Null on whether that makes him teammates with Radishes. Probably a slightly good look but really if you have a weakened teammate you're gonna tie anyone you can to them.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:30 amCause he forgot about his townread on her cause it was fake. Or cause Nutella was suddenly more appealing as a lynch considering she was counterwagon to his buddy Radish (which would be convenient considering our top wagons) than she was when I was the only player voting for her.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:18 amWhy would baddie Mac express a strong townread on nutella and then flip flop just as soon? Why would a bad guy do that? It's a townie maneuever, just like your exact opposite flip flop was (I assume) townie.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:10 amI really really really really dislike his flip flop on how he read me and Nutella. He declared me a wolf and Nutella one we should follow after the two of us started battling. Then like 12 hours later, I was town and Nutella was scum because I read her perfectly.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset
Would be my guess anyways
His argument for Nutella being scum exists in its entirety at the time he expressed a strong townread on her. His read change does not come from a town perspective. It comes from a scum perspective mimicking townplay, ie trusting Jack's Nutella read.
My progression is out there for everyone to see. Mac's progression doesn't exist on the thread.
Doesn't mention Radishes again the entire day.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 2]
Jack ended both the first days on competing wagons to MR. Few did. MR also didn't vote for Jack when there was ample opportunity. That's more than enough equity. Now you tell me how in spite of that they are not. That is how this works.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:48 amEasy. Jack is town. Where is this equity you speak of?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:46 am I really think Jack has massive teammate equity with Radishes and would be curious how you've arrived at the opposite conclusion?
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 1]
Eg. How do you read this post and give Jack townie points?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:19 pmIn my single game (Inception, a few months ago) Jack looked like he was trying to play like he is now, but without being too noticeable. He was scum in that game, so in retrospect I feel like he was trying to imitate his town game as he perceives it.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:15 pm I also don't get Jack's so sure read on you. Is that normal for Jack, anyone? I seem to remember a more tempered town!Jack.
This makes me hesitate to vote Jack right now, as much as his overall play has been a bit questionable.
- Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:46 am
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I really think Jack has massive teammate equity with Radishes and would be curious how you've arrived at the opposite conclusion?
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 2]
No I went after you because you did something that is suspicious that I've caught scum doing in the matters. You are right that I town read you until then, because it was literally the vote post that was the scumtell. There were others who saw it as suspicious too, Nutella for sure.sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:20 pmI've had a hard time making reads this game it's such a big game and so much going on while also balancing real life things. I have a hard time keeping up sometimes and I respond when I'm able to to things that make sense to me. I think mac is going after me because I am easy to go after. I'm not a strong player early game and I know that's a weakness of mine because it takes me awhile to get into it. Also I'd like to point out that mac was town reading me and didnt have any problem with me whatsoever until I voted for him. Then all of a sudden I'm bad because I accused him.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:15 pm I have a concern about sabie:It is starting to feel like sabie is simply agreeing with/supporting or encouraging every suspicion that gets voiced in the thread. That would be opportunism at its most glaring.Spoiler: show
I've never had success at identifying mafia sabie, and I've misidentified town sabie as mafia multiple times in the past as well, though I think I've gotten slightly better in that regard (or perhaps more hesitant to suspect her) in more recent games. But this is a patter that I'm observing in this game that I have not recognized before. To be clear, I've seen sabie latch onto other people's suspicions plenty of times as a civilian in the past; who doesn't do that? But I'm also used to seeing her generate unique opinions and state her disagreement with cases now and again. I feel like she is disproportionately voicing support of other people's suspicions in this game, and that worries me.
This is also a scumtell. You start by pretending like you're explaining why you voted me, but you actually didn't explain it. You just made the obvious statement "i voted you because i think you're bad" and then went on to bring up completely different points about Dyslexicon, who fmpov is the civviest player in the game.sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:15 pm Mac I voted you because I think you're bad. Ive been out and about today trying to phone post and get all my thoughts out while keeping up with tons of posts happening at once. I have to vote somewhere so I voted where it made sense to me. I don't know why dizzy has it out for me this game. They keep pretending like they know me or are familiar with my playstyle when they don't. I think they are just trying to defend you and get suspicion off you by going after me because they've I'm any easy target. Maybe you guys are teammates trying to move the lynch in a different direction.
I also think TH is bad and dizzy is defending them as well so...
Subsequently you suspect Sprityo, which I also do, so I haven't fully made my mind up about you but I don't think you are scum with the Sprityo/Jack/MR block. I do think you are the most scummy player in the game independent of that.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 2]
tl;dr Jack and Sprityo are teammates with MR.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 2]
Let's talk about how Sprityo voted for someone he says he didn't suspect over someone who flipped scum and then count the ways how this makes him scum.
Way number 1. He actually did suspect me.
Way number 2. He also suspected MR. See above. So if he actually didn't suspect me, he did suspect MR, but he voted me who didn't suspect over MR who he did.sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:38 pm ColinIsCool green
Dom green
Dragomir green
Dyslexicon green
Epignosis green
JaggedJimmyJay green
juliets green
Michelle green
sabie12 green
Sloonei green
tedxtr green
TonyStarkPrime green
Tranq green
G-Man red
Jackofhearts2005 red
MacDougall red
Master Radishes red
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2.0 red
S~V~S red
sig red
speedchuck red
Turnip Head red
I’m comfortable with this personal GTH
By default I put anyone I had no opinion on due to lack of voting as green
Way number 3. This post, along with the rest of the Jack tunnel.
Sprityo has been attacking Jack for much of the game, but in this post he "sees the reason" for voting radishes, yet finds his vote on me at the end of the day. His Jack sus is not legitimate because he's not genuinely pushed it, he's just repeatedly said "Jack is scum". When Jack was near to tying me, Sprityo wasn't pushing his Jack suspicion at all. Just took a back seat until the Jack wagon disappeared enough for him to vote for me instead. The only way his Jack sus could read as illegitimate is if they are teammates. Guess who was on non MR wagons both days. Jack.
Each of these are enough to suspect Sprityo in their own right. Too much smoke. The guy is bad.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:47 pm
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 2]
Yeah that happens to me a lot when I'm scum and struggling to build fake cases.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:45 pm I've also done that thing where I get sidetracked from my catchup by current stuff and stop my catchup, then get behind again, then again such that I'm basically at 4 different spots at the same time.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:46 pm
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You aren't analysing me fairly. I was under pressure from a range of people and you were the one that was being the least reasonable so the easiest to avoid talking to.
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No I am just not interested in discourse with someone who sees everything I do through a negative lens. It's unproductive and unpleasant and I'd rather just do things my way. You are ignoring a lot of my play with these statements.
And I don't dislike you, nor do I think anything I did was toxic. I had a very tame tantrum and stopped almost immediately. You're the one who keeps bringing it up and complaining about me. I'd rather just move past it. Sorry that I flipped out btw.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:09 pm
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Dom, so far, has stuck to only talking about Mac.
Why?
This might be a valid point if one needs a reason to push a counterwagon when they are getting lynched. It might even still be a valid argument in that case if it were actually true, which you'd know if you were actually reading posts.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:44 pm
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NLPJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:42 pmYeah, and in the end, I had to survive a coin toss. Here, I'm town and it won't come to that.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:41 pmYeah you kept saying this in Inception and you were right and won us the game.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:36 pm I'm not dying as long as people vote for me during the day and I'm not getting lynched as long as I'm me.
Cautionary tale for those paying attention.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:41 pm
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Yeah you kept saying this in Inception and you were right and won us the game.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:36 pm I'm not dying as long as people vote for me during the day and I'm not getting lynched as long as I'm me.
Cautionary tale for those paying attention.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:17 pm
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... G-Man is civ yoG-Man wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:15 pm Okay, if we’re going to wander down this cocksure ‘G-Man is totes bad’ road to disappointment, then I request that:
1) Someone kill me tonight.
2) Lynch me Day 3.
I’m overwhelmed by the sheer volume of posts. The only reads I have are on players that I think I know well enough, which comes to about seven or eight people. That’s not enough to do the town any good. I’m going to continue to be of little use to the civvies, because all I can muster at this rate is skimming at best. Even that involves skipping large chunks of posts that are about people I’m clueless of.
I admit to being overwhelmed and yet I refuse to sub out. With this much suspicion brewing around me, it’s not fair to ask someone else to come in and wait to die. So that’s not happening. Lynch me and use my lynch for information. We just caught a baddie on Day 2. That gives us a chance to calm down, make a mistake, and be thoughtful and intentional about learning something from it.
As much as I love our hosts, I recognized too late that joining this game was a mistake. There are too many players with too similar personalities making too many posts. Too many of you just blend together in my head. That’s not just this game though- it every game that’s not a Heist. Heck, sometimes even Heists are too much for me. That’s why you don’t see a ‘Best Civ’ or ‘MVP’ Socky in my treasure chest and never will.
After this game, I’m sticking to Heists and hosting. I’m excited about the next game I plan to host. Perhaps that’s where my strengths are. They’re certainly not here.
I don’t want to fight. I don’t want to insult people in the process of trying to convince you I am civ. Let my death convince you of that. If you see me, I’m not lurking; I’m just trying to tread water as best I can.
Thank you and good night.
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That being said, it changes now because I have my feelers in the game now.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:13 pmI mean, I did try for some seconds but you are mostly right.
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- Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:13 pm
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Speedchuck and Dragomir are pure null as in I have no read on them really. Nanook I am torn on but ultimately null because of it. It's just the 50/50 pile.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:11 pmWhy is nanook in the same tier as speedchuck and drago?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:08 pm ColinIsCool
Dyslexicon
Turnip Head
juliets
S~V~S
Epignosis
TonyStarkPrime
Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr
sig
Dragomir
speedchuck
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2.0
Michelle (a)
Tranq (a)
Jackofhearts2005 (b)
sabie12 (a/b)
Dom (b)
G-Man (b)
sprityo (b)
If anyone wants to actually get into some nitty gritty discussion I'm keen. If there are any reads here that are wtf let's talk.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 2]
No, your Dom read is terribad and calling Dyslexicon's read on you stupid for no reason is also bad. You're bad. Die.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:09 pmGimmie all the nitty gritty. Even if I'm right, your insight on one of the scum teams is at least honest.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:08 pm ColinIsCool
Dyslexicon
Turnip Head
juliets
S~V~S
Epignosis
TonyStarkPrime
Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr
sig
Dragomir
speedchuck
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2.0
Michelle (a)
Tranq (a)
Jackofhearts2005 (b)
sabie12 (a/b)
Dom (b)
G-Man (b)
sprityo (b)
If anyone wants to actually get into some nitty gritty discussion I'm keen. If there are any reads here that are wtf let's talk.
Linki: Yes huh it was.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 2]
These aren't good enough reasons to summarise Dyslexicon's reads as stupid turd.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:02 pmCause I checked my rolecard and it says I'm town and also Dom is way different from the only scum performance of his I've seen and in line with all his town performances.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:58 pmDom and you being on Radishes team is far from stupid. Explain why you feel like it's stupid?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:58 pmWhat exactly was the point?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:13 pmWtf, this is not the point, and you know it. You hiding behind a flipped town because you made the same action as him? Lol Jack. Lol.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:06 pm Like literally Nanook died and flipped town. How you gonna shade him for voting Nutella?
That Dom, Nanook and I were teamed with Radish?
That's stupid.
Plus, Dom threw like the 6th vote on me the other day and his reason for suspecting me was stupid.....which is exactly what town Dom always does regardless of my alignment and is not not what wolf Dom does to teammate Jack.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 2]
ColinIsCool
Dyslexicon
Turnip Head
juliets
S~V~S
Epignosis
TonyStarkPrime
Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr
sig
Dragomir
speedchuck
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2.0
Michelle (a)
Tranq (a)
Jackofhearts2005 (b)
sabie12 (a/b)
Dom (b)
G-Man (b)
sprityo (b)
If anyone wants to actually get into some nitty gritty discussion I'm keen. If there are any reads here that are wtf let's talk.
Dyslexicon
Turnip Head
juliets
S~V~S
Epignosis
TonyStarkPrime
Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr
sig
Dragomir
speedchuck
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2.0
Michelle (a)
Tranq (a)
Jackofhearts2005 (b)
sabie12 (a/b)
Dom (b)
G-Man (b)
sprityo (b)
If anyone wants to actually get into some nitty gritty discussion I'm keen. If there are any reads here that are wtf let's talk.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 2]
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 2]
Dom and Jack are back attacking in pairs again. Try to be less transparent.
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Dom and you being on Radishes team is far from stupid. Explain why you feel like it's stupid?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:58 pmWhat exactly was the point?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:13 pmWtf, this is not the point, and you know it. You hiding behind a flipped town because you made the same action as him? Lol Jack. Lol.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:06 pm Like literally Nanook died and flipped town. How you gonna shade him for voting Nutella?
That Dom, Nanook and I were teamed with Radish?
That's stupid.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 2]
ObviouslyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:56 pmIf TH is scum, he's your teammate.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:49 pmSo your hypothesis is that TH is MR's teammate and instead of casting a vote for me at the end thus saving his teammate he instead casted a vote on MR thus confirming his teammate's death?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:47 pmWhen did he vote? After the train was already in the lead? Cause in that case it’s super sketch. I have reasons for my suspicions.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:40 pmDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:33 pmWhy?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:32 pmI don't think Turnip can be with Radish, despite the fact they are both root vegetables.
I mean, stranger things and all but he doesn't need to do that. Even if TH had a town read on me, the smarter play there would have been to just note vote at all and hope the cards fell his way.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 2]
You realise Dom quoted that post from about 3 hours before EOD right?sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:50 pmRight, but your original post.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:48 pmI am arguing with Dom's point about my wagon falling at the end of the day. It didn't fall at the end of day. A few more people just chose MR over me.sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:46 pmBut, the same argument can be made for Radish, who flipped mafia?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:45 pmAnd yet nobody ever peeled off me to vote somewhere else that didn't end up voting for me.sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:43 pmNah it feel off a bit, was second or third, when some of us from both wagons switched to G-man. By end of day it was back up thought.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:40 pmIt didn't fall at all. Nobody ever peeled off me to vote somewhere else that didn't end up voting for me. The MR wagon just overtook it.
Maybe I'm just not understanding what you're trying to say about your wagon.
Why is this relevant?
What do you think this means.?
The observation was that the other wagons had anti-pressure and I had none. I felt victimised because I had no teammates working to protect me and it felt like the other wagons did. I ended up having to scream at people to survive. Jack, TH, G-Man etc. etc. didn't have to do anything and none of them ever behaved like they were threatened by their wagons. I am not saying that they are all mafia but the fact that MR ended up being one and was among those I was referring to at the time is a pretty solid argument for the read being sound so I think that at the very least the other team had someone up for lynch at some point and their votes were on me/MR by the end.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:49 pm
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So your hypothesis is that TH is MR's teammate and instead of casting a vote for me at the end thus saving his teammate he instead casted a vote on MR thus confirming his teammate's death?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:47 pmWhen did he vote? After the train was already in the lead? Cause in that case it’s super sketch. I have reasons for my suspicions.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:40 pmDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:33 pmWhy?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:32 pmI don't think Turnip can be with Radish, despite the fact they are both root vegetables.
I mean, stranger things and all but he doesn't need to do that. Even if TH had a town read on me, the smarter play there would have been to just note vote at all and hope the cards fell his way.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:48 pm
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 2]
I am arguing with Dom's point about my wagon falling at the end of the day. It didn't fall at the end of day. A few more people just chose MR over me.sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:46 pmBut, the same argument can be made for Radish, who flipped mafia?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:45 pmAnd yet nobody ever peeled off me to vote somewhere else that didn't end up voting for me.sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:43 pmNah it feel off a bit, was second or third, when some of us from both wagons switched to G-man. By end of day it was back up thought.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:40 pmIt didn't fall at all. Nobody ever peeled off me to vote somewhere else that didn't end up voting for me. The MR wagon just overtook it.
Maybe I'm just not understanding what you're trying to say about your wagon.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:45 pm
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 2]
And yet nobody ever peeled off me to vote somewhere else that didn't end up voting for me.sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:43 pmNah it feel off a bit, was second or third, when some of us from both wagons switched to G-man. By end of day it was back up thought.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:40 pmIt didn't fall at all. Nobody ever peeled off me to vote somewhere else that didn't end up voting for me. The MR wagon just overtook it.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:40 pm
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- Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:40 pm
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Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:33 pmWhy?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:32 pmI don't think Turnip can be with Radish, despite the fact they are both root vegetables.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:32 pm
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I don't think Turnip can be with Radish, despite the fact they are both root vegetables.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:30 pm Quick top of my head read list:
Town: G-Man, Tony
Townish: Juliets, Michelle, Epi, Dom, Sig
Probably town, but I'm insane: SVS
Don't know: Speed, Tranq, Sprit, Ted, Mac
Could be on Radish team: Sabie, Turnip, Jack, I guess maybe Dom
Other scummers: Sloonei? Jimmay?
I think that was all. These are just my feelings right now. Good night.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:31 pm
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The other thing worth noting is that given I didn't get many more votes on me when the MR wagon started to take off (literally just Sprityo) it means that MR's other teammates were most likely already voting for me, so would have been pushing me without any ability to increase the numbers on my wagon. Staring blankly in the direction of Jack.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:24 pm
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I can vibe that. I think Dom, Jack, G-Man and Sprityo are more likely to be radishes teammates but Sabie could be on either team fmpov.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:09 pm I think Sabie is on the Radish team. The way she was addressing Radish was sparse and awkward. She didn't respond to Radish when Radish picked her vote on Nut out as the worst vote. But every time I say something anti-Sabie she's there to comment on it.
Turnip also looks bad from this. The way he ended up on Nut D1 even though he supposedly suspected Radish. And also D2 built counter wagons to him. Not a great look. Though I've been reading Turnip more town otherwise. Idk.
I think the non radishes team are more likely to have been laying low once the wagon formation became clear. It would be needless for them to participate. I'd say that the other team are more likely to be among the people voting earlier or off wagon entirely since they were coasting by the end. Sabie profiles here.
I think Michelle and Tranq profile as suspects too. I'd be interested to hear [mention]nutella[/mention]'s feelings on Michelle given she had a strong town read on her earlier.
I think most of the people who voted late are relatively clean with the exception of Sprityo because his vote was on me. So that's TH, Colin, Juliets, Epi and TSP I think. I think it's unlikely any of them would make that vote if they were scum, even if they weren't on MR's team.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:13 pm
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 2]
bUt NaNoOk Is CoNfIrMeD
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:12 pm
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If by confirmed town you mean confirmed weiner then yes that describes youJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:04 pmYeah but three of the four of us are basically confirmed town so
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:11 pm
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- Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:09 pm
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No shade man I literally just read the names and posted them.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:06 pm Like literally Nanook died and flipped town. How you gonna shade him for voting Nutella?
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:00 pm
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 2]
Nanook, Jack and Dom were all on Nutella and me.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:58 pm
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 2]
They did so because I screamed at themsig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:57 pm?
Doesn't matter since I'm right, IN FACT hard defense of teammates annnnnnnd going after anyone that calls out team that kinda reminds me of a previous strategy you employed and bragged about in the past.
Also I've been sporadically taking notes for this phase which'll I'll be posting soon.
linki: Mac it wasn't your actions it was the fact there was a last second rush by players who had been low key defending you onto Radish while willing to push other players. It was opportunistic and an attempt to save you which makes no sense given the level of town read they had for you.
I'm still a bit iffy on Dizzy, but he initially brought up the idea of a CFD.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:58 pm
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 2]
Sprityo + G-Man
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:54 pm
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G-Man is outed imo. Dyslexicon looks like a teammate too.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:53 pm
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Trying to not get lynched is something all alignments have in common Einsteinsig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:53 pmLol okay, since what just happened was totally 100% authentic and not something you'd do and have done.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:50 pmFuck off with your tunneling and find real scum. You have an actual flip.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:53 pm
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- Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:52 pm
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 2]
If I still have to go through the same shit tomorrow I'm gonna be pretty fucking irritated.
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:50 pm
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- Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:50 pm
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Lynch 2]
Dances ecstaticallyLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:48 pmEvidence Found
"He can't be allowed to stay!" shouted the Awards Presenter, showing uncharacteristic negativity and pointing his microphone accusingly at Abed Nadir. "He just tried to kill us all!"
"Please!" cried Abed, "I - I just need a minute... I don't know..."
The Awards Presenter gestured angrily to a video feed, which showed Abed pointing the blaster at the power core and laughing. Abed put a hand to his face in turmoil, shaking his head.
"That wasn't really him, you idiot!" grumbled Bill Rawls. "Did you miss that he was possessed by a shadow demon?" He turned to Abed, whose unsure expression plainly revealed his confusion and shame. "Look, Mr Nadir - some shit went down in there today, we both know that. But I'll be damned if you are going to take the blame for any off this. This was not your fault!"
"So, what then?" the Awards Presenter held his arms wide. "How do we know it won't happen again? How do I know you're not 'possessed'?" He held up air quotes.
"We don't," said Bill, narrowing his eyes. "And what's more, I've been doing some snooping. Pretty sure that not everybody here is fully on our side, demonic possession or not." He held up a scrap of burnt paper. "Someone tried to burn this, but there was a scrap left in the bin. It's not much, but it looks like orders, and signed by someone called The Master."
"Ooooh, it burned?" said Harriet, a fire in her eyes. "I do wish I hadn't missed that!" Her cats yowled and fretted, but she ignored the silly beasts.
Bill noticed MasterRadishes trying to slip out a side door during the conversation, and his Monitor-enhanced cop skills kicked in. "THERE! Grab him!"
Radishes was grabbed, and dragged kicking and screaming back into the room. "Sorry, Mr Radish." said Bill, drawing his Glock 17. "We can't take any chances, with the Multiverse at stake!"
<<BLAM!!>>
Master Radishes has been lynched. He was Dennis Reynolds, a baddie on the Anti-Monitor's team, from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia Mafia by JaggedJimmyJay.
Night 2 has begun!
- Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:48 pm
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 2]
I have a great deal of adrenaline pumping through my veins right now