The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:53 pm if you flip me today over TSP or Chop it is going to reduce town's win percentage from around 45% to around <1% imo.

Maybe I exaggerated a little lol

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:08 pm Teaser for a lounge thread tonight:

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I looked up every instance in which a player has made 1,000 posts or more in a Syndicate game. I did not consider dead posts or post-game posts. They are ordered below.

Rank Player Post Count Alignment Game Year

1 tutuu 1864 Civilian Game of Champions 2020 2021

2 iaafr 1663 Civilian Inception Mafia 2019

3 Justplayingitcool 1604 Civilian Game of Champions 2020 2021

4 MacDougall 1507 Civilian Radiohead Mafia 2020

5 Ricochet 1472 Civilian Game of Champions 2015 2016

6 JaggedJimmyJay 1458 Civilian Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90) 2015

7 Michelle 1346 Civilian Game of Champions 2020 2021

8 TonyStarkPrime 1268 Mafia Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game 2021

Not EVERY

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:49 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:46 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:45 am This game is so much harder if he isn't

I mean it's hard anyways but

Sure would be nice if it was a little easier
How so?
There's like seven people playing and he's one of them

Him actually playing is why I'm scumreading him tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:45 am This game is so much harder if he isn't

I mean it's hard anyways but

Sure would be nice if it was a little easier

How so?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:30 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:22 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:11 am Maybe Marmot is mafia

Is that dumb

@MacDougall is it dumb to think Marmot might be mafia

Or anyone else that can read Marmot
Nah hes pretty mafiaish for sure
Can tsp please be town

I'm desperate here

I don't think he is ay

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:11 am Maybe Marmot is mafia

Is that dumb

@MacDougall is it dumb to think Marmot might be mafia

Or anyone else that can read Marmot

Nah hes pretty mafiaish for sure

People are more suspicious of me than usual because I am not overwhelming top poster. I get it.

But this is not unprecedented. I have gone large periods of my mafia life playing this way. It doesn't make me scum and it doesn't make my reads any worse either.

I just thousand posted as mafia. So if you have it in your mind that slanking is NAI for me then ya not gud.

I am also extremely unaligned to both Made and Esooa so...

if you flip me today over TSP or Chop it is going to reduce town's win percentage from around 45% to around <1% imo.

I am voting for TSP because I think he is the most off meta player in the game.

I don't care about who else is voting there at the mid point of the day.

Epi can be town, can be mafia. If TSP is town and I am wrong on him then Epi being mafia is more likely.

I am not going to not push my top scum just because someone independent of that read that may or may not be scum but is drastically less likely to be in my view is voting there.

tl;dr get gud nerd.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:30 pm *Quotes from Mac and Epi ISO's*
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MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:58 am Kyle appears to be obvious mafia.

Made is clearly mafia.

Epi is probably just mafia.

Dom is probably town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:58 am Epi/Sloonei is t/w 150,000 percent

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:30 pm I still think Sloonei is likely just a hit which means Epi is probs town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:57 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:03 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine
you're just outed mafia at this point, there's no world in which you can have me as made or esooa's teammate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:57 pm Jack
Rej
Epi
Sloonei
TSP

Fire torpedoes into this pile of humanity

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:30 pm TSP, LC, Jack, Kyle or something?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:34 am
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:53 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:50 am
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:34 am I still don't understand why there were 0 enclave voters on the chop wagon yesterday if chop is enclave.

Unless the entire enclave team decided to just vote Mac and hope nobody reads the vote count.
Made, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Alison, TonyStarkPrime, KZA
DaughterOfOmega

So you know that TSP, Nanook and KZA are not enclave how?

Also Made was voting there.

Or is it that you meant to say made wagon in which case

MartinGG99, Long Con, Kylemii, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Sloonei, Marmot
Dom

So you know LC, Kyle, Jack, Mac, Marmot and Dom are not enclave how?

None of what you just said makes sense wot.
KZA is flipped town.

Nanook red checked a flipped enclave.

If ChopChop is enclave then TSP is not enclave because they've been fighting way too harshly to be buddies.
Look this is all kinda reasonable I guess

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:36 am so that means TSP is mafia

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:38 am TSP is seriously very mafia in this game though.

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Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:29 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:46 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:37 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:03 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:02 am [VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

What bothers me a fair bit is why Epi + Mac are voting the same guy (TSP) but kinda hate each other at the same time

like how does that happen

I think Mac's vote was made after Epi, and Epi hasn't come back since his vote. But Mac recently called Epi "outed mafia"

This is a really poor way to find mafia friend. A really good way to find scummy town though. So if your objective is to hide behind what on the surface appears to be genuine reasons for suspicion but once peeled back are found to be NAI considerations, well good job.

Reminder Im town and tsp isn't

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:24 am I don't understand what you're claiming Joe or if you're actually claiming anything but that may have something to do with the sleep deprivation

I retract it at any rate

TSP is seriously very mafia in this game though.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:20 am So Mac and Grogu are both saying they think ChopChop is scum for raisins, but they won't talk about those raisins, and we're going to believe them? Am I understanding this situation correctly?

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Why are you voting for someone that you don't want to vote off?

so that means TSP is mafia

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:13 am though honestly that's so crazy that it might be real

yeah it probably is and I probably just misinterpreted something

my bad

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:06 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:00 am @ChopChop you have hard claimed this role ay?

Luke

You command the Brotherhood outpost located at the NCR capital city. You're regarded with some suspicion by the locals who don't understand the importance of the Brotherhood mission.

You're a 2-shot messenger. One of your chief duties is to keep the Brotherhood command to the south appraised of NCR social and technological development. Twice during the game during any separate night phases, you may craft a personal message to be sent to a player you select through the host. The message can be anything.

Separately, you are a 1-shot faction spy. You keep a close eye on the NCR Rangers and their conflict with the Slavers to aid in your own mission. Once during the game during any night phase, you may select a player. You will be told whether or not that player has ever targeted the Slaver during any previous night phase.
Yes I only have Faction Spy left.
Ya target Alison by any chance?

I already told you that I did

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:05 am I thought maybe you were softing some sort of weird investigative role.
Like how can you be 70%?
Tracker?

Here’s my actions:
N1: Daisy - Message
N2: No One
N3: Sloon - Message

If you ever tracked me, these should be your results for the equivalent nights.

what about the other part of your role?

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:59 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:03 am I don't have a red check exactly. But I am like 70% sure it equates to a red check. And if you add Grogu's feels to it then...
What are you claiming?

I am a 1 shot claim checker. I checked your claim and it was fake.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:53 am The thing that disturbs me about this game is the number of players I'd be ok voting off right now.

What's even more disturbing is that I'm not one of them

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:53 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:50 am
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:34 am I still don't understand why there were 0 enclave voters on the chop wagon yesterday if chop is enclave.

Unless the entire enclave team decided to just vote Mac and hope nobody reads the vote count.
Made, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Alison, TonyStarkPrime, KZA
DaughterOfOmega

So you know that TSP, Nanook and KZA are not enclave how?

Also Made was voting there.

Or is it that you meant to say made wagon in which case

MartinGG99, Long Con, Kylemii, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Sloonei, Marmot
Dom

So you know LC, Kyle, Jack, Mac, Marmot and Dom are not enclave how?

None of what you just said makes sense wot.
KZA is flipped town.

Nanook red checked a flipped enclave.

If ChopChop is enclave then TSP is not enclave because they've been fighting way too harshly to be buddies.

Look this is all kinda reasonable I guess

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:34 am I still don't understand why there were 0 enclave voters on the chop wagon yesterday if chop is enclave.

Unless the entire enclave team decided to just vote Mac and hope nobody reads the vote count.

Made, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Alison, TonyStarkPrime, KZA
DaughterOfOmega

So you know that TSP, Nanook and KZA are not enclave how?

Also Made was voting there.

Or is it that you meant to say made wagon in which case

MartinGG99, Long Con, Kylemii, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Sloonei, Marmot
Dom

So you know LC, Kyle, Jack, Mac, Marmot and Dom are not enclave how?

None of what you just said makes sense wot.

If Grogu targeted Sloonei and the only person who visited him was ChopChop and Sloonei died then like what more do we need to go on?

Also I thought ChopChop was going to target me last night?

Nah I am not certain enough to speak on this in absolutes. But close.

I'm not gonna claim.

I don't have a red check exactly. But I am like 70% sure it equates to a red check. And if you add Grogu's feels to it then...

@ChopChop you have hard claimed this role ay?

Luke

You command the Brotherhood outpost located at the NCR capital city. You're regarded with some suspicion by the locals who don't understand the importance of the Brotherhood mission.

You're a 2-shot messenger. One of your chief duties is to keep the Brotherhood command to the south appraised of NCR social and technological development. Twice during the game during any separate night phases, you may craft a personal message to be sent to a player you select through the host. The message can be anything.

Separately, you are a 1-shot faction spy. You keep a close eye on the NCR Rangers and their conflict with the Slavers to aid in your own mission. Once during the game during any night phase, you may select a player. You will be told whether or not that player has ever targeted the Slaver during any previous night phase.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:03 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

you're just outed mafia at this point, there's no world in which you can have me as made or esooa's teammate

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:53 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:50 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:21 pm I'd expect some enclave to be off wagon and some enclave to be bussing made. Probably they had like one person on made while the rest found plausible vanity wagons to hide on and prayed to god that the chop wagon won.
they were widely pushing me because chop is his teammate

i assure you of this
So what happened to your Chop townread

a night thing that I ain't gonna say is what happened

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:39 pm i'm barely trying and looking forward to coasting off my interactions with Made for the rest of the game.

welcome to my life

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:21 pm I'd expect some enclave to be off wagon and some enclave to be bussing made. Probably they had like one person on made while the rest found plausible vanity wagons to hide on and prayed to god that the chop wagon won.

they were widely pushing me because chop is his teammate

i assure you of this

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:37 am Mac has been slanking in general. They say if you don’t go poop often enough, it’s bad for your health.

@MacDougall Try eating dried apricots so you can play more mafia.

i do enjoy a good poo

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:23 pm @MacDougall how did N3 go for ya

a something occurred

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:51 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:08 pm
Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:07 pm @MacDougall why is there always a baddie between Marmot and LC?

This is a good take, but Mac does tend to speak in absolutes.
Your read is either right or you're mafia

You're just mafia aren't you?

No and how is this reaction actually reasonable at all?

[VOTE: made] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:08 pm
Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:07 pm @MacDougall why is there always a baddie between Marmot and LC?

This is a good take, but Mac does tend to speak in absolutes.

Your read is either right or you're mafia

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:39 pm I’m also just gonna reiterate that this game is designed specifically to deter mechanical solving. I think we're heading toward a big bag of frustration of we continue to try to win the game purely on mechanical information. We should be applying mech info to reads that exist on players. It does not feel like that is happening.

I am not currently helping in this arena. Oh well.
Can we yeet LC then?

I would

LC/Marmot is also always at least 1 mafia based on their interactions. Marmot feels mildly townier.

I still think Sloonei is likely just a hit which means Epi is probs town.

I think Dom maybe town.

I'd take Martin and Daisy as townish with a gun to me.

Dunno how to feel about Urist. Sometimes he feels wolfy but he's also caring more than most about this game so I wanna just ignore that.

Nanook ... town for no apparent reason.

TSP, LC, Jack, Kyle or something?

Ironically Chop is probably my top town now.

I could be persuaded to vote for lots of folks tho. I struggle to actually find a viable townread here.

But I do believe Chopdog's claim.

Thing is I also kinda not feeling the Made wagon. And KZA went from saying he could clear me to voting for me for no apparent reason so imma vote there.

Alison is not gonna survive this game at this rate so all this conjecture about her being slaver or not is invariably going to be solved via her flip.

So you're going to target me and confirm I targeted a Slaver in order to do what?

ChopChop wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:49 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:36 pm I did target Alison @ChopChop.

Now what?
Were you blocked?
I already said that I was blocked.
And the same night you went to target Alison?
Or the other one?

The night I went to Alison.

The previous night I don't believe I was blocked.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:36 pm I did target Alison @ChopChop.

Now what?
I’ll target you tonight.

And then what?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:36 pm I did target Alison @ChopChop.

Now what?
Were you blocked?

I already said that I was blocked.

I did target Alison @ChopChop.

Now what?

suddenly I find myself in a three way tie

the only person who will be happy about my flip will be me

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:38 am K, I interpreted as the game itself.

What did you mean @MacDougall?

The game.

Grogu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:39 am Everyone is so mad this game...

I am simply doing my best not to make the game completely fall apart. Certain people are being quite rude and if I escalate then things will get ugly.

Rank	Player	Post Count	Alignment	Game	Year
1	tutuu	1864	Civilian	Game of Champions 2020	2021
2	iaafr	1663	Civilian	Inception Mafia	2019
3	Justplayingitcool	1604	Civilian	Game of Champions 2020	2021
4	MacDougall	1507	Civilian	Radiohead Mafia	2020
5	Ricochet	1472	Civilian	Game of Champions 2015	2016
6	JaggedJimmyJay	1458	Civilian	Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)	2015
7	Michelle	1346	Civilian	Game of Champions 2020	2021
8	TonyStarkPrime	1268	Mafia	Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game	2021

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