[Mafia Win] Tongue-Tied Mafia

[falcon45ca]

HK, Neon, Lemon.



@Scotty now that you've woken up, can you give me fresh eyes on these 3 slots?

[Scotty]

I think I actually like the pacing of this game
feels pretty chill

I can't handle a lot of stress these days :c

You should dislike the pacing as it has yielded mylo and there is no reason to be chill

I’m here to infuse a bit of life into this game, but like in a game of Operation, the patient was either dead to begin with or someone increased the buzzing voltage and it’s making the players nervous

[Scotty]

HK, Neon, Lemon.



@Scotty now that you've woken up, can you give me fresh eyes on these 3 slots?

I should be doing what I like doing when I’m spec’ing- seeing the voting breakdown and not reading a bit of the thread to make wild, unsubstantiated calls on players.

I mean, I sorta did that when I came in, which made me feel the D1 pyxxy poll is fishy. At least one of Roxy/splints has to be bad from my perspective UNLESS Dennis is exactly town and wolves were fine to let town cannabalize each other. Which is possible but unlikely at this point. We obviously have to find the BEST case we can to get a wolf today. I have 3/7 chances to find the correct one (I am town) which ain’t terrible odds.

Anyway, hk/neon/lemon

I’ve said I liked neon’s iso- haven’t looked through citrus pixie or X-ray kat. Will do so in a bit

[Scotty]

Spoiler: show

This read is bad

Was Dennis pure then?

Was Dennis pure then?

Odds

ARE

That if so...

Then OPENs

Up to ROXY and DENNIS

But no, that doesn't make sense.

Surely you don't feel that Roxy and Dennis

Are BOTH in the PoE still.

That would be...

So lovely...

I’m confused by what you are saying here

One W on Dennis.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll use a bat

One W on Pyxxy.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll make you flat

One W floating free.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll make you DEAD

Point 1 is ONLY impossible if there's a

W Dennis or

A 2nd on Pyxxy

The 2nd

Hoho ho...

The 2nd on Pyxxy

Is likely

Roxy.

again why? What makes you single me out? Why do you think I am bad.
I don't think wolves were anywhere near pyxxy's wagon.
Why?
Bc they knew they were town. Thats what makes me look everywhere but the Pyxxy voters.

Wolves must YEET town.

Pyxxy made it easy to do.

You and Porscha hold wolf weight.

You because you positioned your suspicion towards Splints rather than the accusor Pyxxy.

Not much to catch up on - my kind of game <3

I have some thoughts but I'd like to hear splints response to this question:

splintsy - what do you make of pyxxy's calling you townish yesterday with your 3 posts of nothingness (no offense mine were the same ) but then today you got moved down a tier, I stayed the same but Wigleys went from being voted for as a baddie by pyxxy to the top tier and is now being called town?
Also how many games have you played with pyxxy that they could read you in 3 posts?

This post.

Specifically was wolfy.

Your posture being towards Splints makes this more likely a pocket vs an actual means to assess Pyxxy who we now know as town.

Hmmm...so this makes me curious if part of the reason for Wilgy's NK was to push over Roxy...this direct sus of Roxy's slot makes it so easy to push Roxy this RD.





Like, does Maf Roxy kill Wilgy here w/ this sus, not to mention they've already been getting heat prior? This just makes it easier to see Roxy as W!...but like, it's too easy.

Do you think wolves are more inclined to play the Frame Game or take out someone that is blowing up your spot?

Sometimes too easy is a fallacy to ignore. Sometimes it just is that easy

[Scotty]

posting a handy-dandy list

Neon/Dennis/Scotty

splits/falcon

Roxy/HK

I have no idea lol

Before I read your ISO, explain to me your suspicion of HK

[hollowkatt]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

[Scotty]

I’m realizing Roxy was quite involved in D2- I just assumed she wasn’t around, but she posted more then than she did on D1. She just didn’t vote.

And this is why voting early [in a non-hammer game] is important, kids.

Was this game always an active hammer? I don’t see anything in the rules

[hollowkatt]

Do you think wolves are more inclined to play the Frame Game or take out someone that is blowing up your spot?

Sometimes too easy is a fallacy to ignore. Sometimes it just is that easy

I think wolves play for the win here today. I don't think there's a reason to mess around when they don't have to.

[Scotty]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

I do believe there is a difference check there.

I said Neon is town, but in a game where roxy is town, lemon and neon look bad for peripheral reasons on wagon dynamics alone.

I don’t currently feel Neon is bad, but honestly? She is the first person to come out today with a modicum of confidence in a player’s alignment when town should be in a bit of a hesitant state. Neon’s vote progression for Roxy *makes sense* as she has had that same suspicion yesterday and, on top of that, Roxy’s association with both NKs have been suspicious

[Scotty]

Do you think wolves are more inclined to play the Frame Game or take out someone that is blowing up your spot?

Sometimes too easy is a fallacy to ignore. Sometimes it just is that easy

I think wolves play for the win here today. I don't think there's a reason to mess around when they don't have to.

I mean, yes. In a world where Wilgy was set up to be a frame job, who are wolves counting on to pile onto Roxy?

As a counterpoint, Wilgy dropped his shtick and started prodding in different directions. That can be dangerous for a mafia team that wants to take out dissenting voices. I don’t think looking away from Roxy because it’s ‘too obvious or easy’ is the way to approach today

And if it is, gg wolves. Playing 4d chess

[hollowkatt]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

I do believe there is a difference check there.

I said Neon is town, but in a game where roxy is town, lemon and neon look bad for peripheral reasons on wagon dynamics alone.

I don’t currently feel Neon is bad, but honestly? She is the first person to come out today with a modicum of confidence in a player’s alignment when town should be in a bit of a hesitant state. Neon’s vote progression for Roxy *makes sense* as she has had that same suspicion yesterday and, on top of that, Roxy’s association with both NKs have been suspicious

yeah for sure. So the thing is how much stock should be put into a potential "setup" from the wolf team last night to make Roxy look bad? Like we've all seen wolf teams make kills designed to make someone not guilty look really guilty so that's a thing to be aware of.
But the counterpoint to that is "just kill wolfy people".

I think my plan for today is to sit back and re-evaluate everyone in light of flips and how they've pushed. I'm still happy with calling you town though. Sig was townie and the way you've entered the game doesn't seem like a powerwolf going for the win it really feels like town that wants to solve and get things right. Maybe I'm a sucker for tonal reads like that but when I put my feet up and think about things that's the conclusion I come to. There's not a voice in the back of my head going "but what if you're wrong" like I do with some other people.

[hollowkatt]

Do you think wolves are more inclined to play the Frame Game or take out someone that is blowing up your spot?

Sometimes too easy is a fallacy to ignore. Sometimes it just is that easy

I think wolves play for the win here today. I don't think there's a reason to mess around when they don't have to.

I mean, yes. In a world where Wilgy was set up to be a frame job, who are wolves counting on to pile onto Roxy?

As a counterpoint, Wilgy dropped his shtick and started prodding in different directions. That can be dangerous for a mafia team that wants to take out dissenting voices. I don’t think looking away from Roxy because it’s ‘too obvious or easy’ is the way to approach today

And if it is, gg wolves. Playing 4d chess

yeah wigly being NK makes perfect sense

[Scotty]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

I do believe there is a difference check there.

I said Neon is town, but in a game where roxy is town, lemon and neon look bad for peripheral reasons on wagon dynamics alone.

I don’t currently feel Neon is bad, but honestly? She is the first person to come out today with a modicum of confidence in a player’s alignment when town should be in a bit of a hesitant state. Neon’s vote progression for Roxy *makes sense* as she has had that same suspicion yesterday and, on top of that, Roxy’s association with both NKs have been suspicious

yeah for sure. So the thing is how much stock should be put into a potential "setup" from the wolf team last night to make Roxy look bad? Like we've all seen wolf teams make kills designed to make someone not guilty look really guilty so that's a thing to be aware of.
But the counterpoint to that is "just kill wolfy people".

I think my plan for today is to sit back and re-evaluate everyone in light of flips and how they've pushed. I'm still happy with calling you town though. Sig was townie and the way you've entered the game doesn't seem like a powerwolf going for the win it really feels like town that wants to solve and get things right. Maybe I'm a sucker for tonal reads like that but when I put my feet up and think about things that's the conclusion I come to. There's not a voice in the back of my head going "but what if you're wrong" like I do with some other people.

Honestly I would use this approach as wolf regardless.

But focusing on me shouldn’t be a concern today. I could be wolf, but I am more a resource. I have 2 days of fewer content than anyone else so there are more sure bets out there to make condemnations

[Scotty]

Do you think wolves are more inclined to play the Frame Game or take out someone that is blowing up your spot?

Sometimes too easy is a fallacy to ignore. Sometimes it just is that easy

I think wolves play for the win here today. I don't think there's a reason to mess around when they don't have to.

I mean, yes. In a world where Wilgy was set up to be a frame job, who are wolves counting on to pile onto Roxy?

As a counterpoint, Wilgy dropped his shtick and started prodding in different directions. That can be dangerous for a mafia team that wants to take out dissenting voices. I don’t think looking away from Roxy because it’s ‘too obvious or easy’ is the way to approach today

And if it is, gg wolves. Playing 4d chess

yeah wigly being NK makes perfect sense

Why was Kate killed, in your estimation?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Wilgy just died. Looking thru his iso now

I donut support this plan I think we skip step 1 and go right to 2

Hell yeah, so we are thinking D1 me, D2 ?, D3 Neon then?

This post on D1 just jumped out to me because of Neon’s post. @Neon why so against an HK yet D1?

Because I've been town reading HK this whole game lol

wait so I just combed through your iso.

This was on D1, and I saw no instance of you ever giving an indication that you townread HK on D1. It just seems like a weird jump to state that you want to skip HK and go straight to Wilgy on D1 without ever previously explaining your HK read

I've been purposely cagey with my reads this game I've not really explained or even openly admitted to many of them. I've thought HK was town since pretty early but TBF I also didn't really want to kill Wilgy I was just fucking around lol.

Why have you been cagey, and why would you.push a player but just be "fuckin around"?




In a mountainous game, where is the town motivation to be cagey?

I literally didn't push him?

I just made one fucking joke post and voted Dennis lol

[hollowkatt]

Do you think wolves are more inclined to play the Frame Game or take out someone that is blowing up your spot?

Sometimes too easy is a fallacy to ignore. Sometimes it just is that easy

I think wolves play for the win here today. I don't think there's a reason to mess around when they don't have to.

I mean, yes. In a world where Wilgy was set up to be a frame job, who are wolves counting on to pile onto Roxy?

As a counterpoint, Wilgy dropped his shtick and started prodding in different directions. That can be dangerous for a mafia team that wants to take out dissenting voices. I don’t think looking away from Roxy because it’s ‘too obvious or easy’ is the way to approach today

And if it is, gg wolves. Playing 4d chess

yeah wigly being NK makes perfect sense

Why was Kate killed, in your estimation?

her and dennis were the most prolific posters at the time, both of them had exceeded the first post cap. Additionally Kate was engaging or trying to engage with most of the players in the game. When a townie does that it makes them very hard to chop because there's a lot of different ways that person can be town read. I think Kate was NK because they weren't going to be chopped and because they were working very hard to be globally engaging and working to solve. I also think that's why wigly was NK. They weren't going to get chopped, not after they stopped using gimmicks and got down to business.

Basically the wolf team is killing the people they need to kill and we're doing the rest of their job for them by killing "wolfy" townies.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

I do believe there is a difference check there.

I said Neon is town, but in a game where roxy is town, lemon and neon look bad for peripheral reasons on wagon dynamics alone.

I don’t currently feel Neon is bad, but honestly? She is the first person to come out today with a modicum of confidence in a player’s alignment when town should be in a bit of a hesitant state. Neon’s vote progression for Roxy *makes sense* as she has had that same suspicion yesterday and, on top of that, Roxy’s association with both NKs have been suspicious

Just an FYI there's a reason why people say I suck til it matters

I always project confidence and snap vote in xlo because I win them a lot.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

This isn't true. Town needs to misvote twice for wolves to be able to end the game and AFAIK votes aren't locked so game never ends here.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Right?

[hollowkatt]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

This isn't true. Town needs to misvote twice for wolves to be able to end the game and AFAIK votes aren't locked so game never ends here.

8 alive 5 town 3 wolves is mylo. if we're wrong we go into night at 4/3 and b/c it's mountainous the NK means parity. So yeah while votes aren't locked in being wrong ends the game.

[Scotty]

When you’re lying awake
with a dismal headache
And repose is tabooed by anxiety;
I conceive you may use
Any language you choose
To indulge in without impropriety

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

This isn't true. Town needs to misvote twice for wolves to be able to end the game and AFAIK votes aren't locked so game never ends here.

8 alive 5 town 3 wolves is mylo. if we're wrong we go into night at 4/3 and b/c it's mountainous the NK means parity. So yeah while votes aren't locked in being wrong ends the game.

No I'm saying me voting even if I'm wrong and Roxy and I are both town doesn't end the game

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I mean I'm confident I'm not moving anyways I just think the logic of the statement as of interpreted it was wrong

[falcon45ca]

Spoiler: show

Was Dennis pure then?

Was Dennis pure then?

Odds

ARE

That if so...

Then OPENs

Up to ROXY and DENNIS

But no, that doesn't make sense.

Surely you don't feel that Roxy and Dennis

Are BOTH in the PoE still.

That would be...

So lovely...

I’m confused by what you are saying here

One W on Dennis.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll use a bat

One W on Pyxxy.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll make you flat

One W floating free.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll make you DEAD

Point 1 is ONLY impossible if there's a

W Dennis or

A 2nd on Pyxxy

The 2nd

Hoho ho...

The 2nd on Pyxxy

Is likely

Roxy.

again why? What makes you single me out? Why do you think I am bad.
I don't think wolves were anywhere near pyxxy's wagon.
Why?
Bc they knew they were town. Thats what makes me look everywhere but the Pyxxy voters.

Wolves must YEET town.

Pyxxy made it easy to do.

You and Porscha hold wolf weight.

You because you positioned your suspicion towards Splints rather than the accusor Pyxxy.

Not much to catch up on - my kind of game <3

I have some thoughts but I'd like to hear splints response to this question:

splintsy - what do you make of pyxxy's calling you townish yesterday with your 3 posts of nothingness (no offense mine were the same ) but then today you got moved down a tier, I stayed the same but Wigleys went from being voted for as a baddie by pyxxy to the top tier and is now being called town?
Also how many games have you played with pyxxy that they could read you in 3 posts?

This post.

Specifically was wolfy.

Your posture being towards Splints makes this more likely a pocket vs an actual means to assess Pyxxy who we now know as town.

Hmmm...so this makes me curious if part of the reason for Wilgy's NK was to push over Roxy...this direct sus of Roxy's slot makes it so easy to push Roxy this RD.





Like, does Maf Roxy kill Wilgy here w/ this sus, not to mention they've already been getting heat prior? This just makes it easier to see Roxy as W!...but like, it's too easy.

Do you think wolves are more inclined to play the Frame Game or take out someone that is blowing up your spot?

Sometimes too easy is a fallacy to ignore. Sometimes it just is that easy

It's def possible, the thing is Wilgys sus wasn't really blowing Roxy up and the players sussing Roxy haven't really looked anywhere else and are coming into a MYLO and don't really seem solvey.

[falcon45ca]

I think I actually like the pacing of this game
feels pretty chill

I can't handle a lot of stress these days :c

You should dislike the pacing as it has yielded mylo and there is no reason to be chill

I’m here to infuse a bit of life into this game, but like in a game of Operation, the patient was either dead to begin with or someone increased the buzzing voltage and it’s making the players nervous

Yup

[Scotty]

Starting Lemonfairy’s iso

I have a confession to make
I kind of townread pyxxy because I kind of vibed with their early read lists

but I didn't care enough to try and stop the exe
plus that final gif was just unforgivable

it was a necessary sacrifice
for the greater good

I like this post-pyxxy flip. Wolf Lemonfairy doesn’t need to say this unprompted.

Of course I don’t know Lemonfairy’s playstyle\if this is normal

[falcon45ca]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

This isn't true. Town needs to misvote twice for wolves to be able to end the game and AFAIK votes aren't locked so game never ends here.

Neon trying to convince town that we're not up against the wall is super sus

[falcon45ca]

Starting Lemonfairy’s iso

I have a confession to make
I kind of townread pyxxy because I kind of vibed with their early read lists

but I didn't care enough to try and stop the exe
plus that final gif was just unforgivable

it was a necessary sacrifice
for the greater good

I like this post-pyxxy flip. Wolf Lemonfairy doesn’t need to say this unprompted.

Of course I don’t know Lemonfairy’s playstyle\if this is normal

Wolves always have what appear to some to be good posts...what town ever lets their TRs flip w/o ever expressing their doubts?



It's anti town to let your TRs go over w/o some inquiry, pushback, clarification, etc

[Scotty]

ummmm
ok yeah

maybe I will come back to ISO everyone later

what is a stool pigeon?
should I feel offended? lol

I’m sure stool pigeon is just bird-shaped poop

[Scotty]

Starting Lemonfairy’s iso

I have a confession to make
I kind of townread pyxxy because I kind of vibed with their early read lists

but I didn't care enough to try and stop the exe
plus that final gif was just unforgivable

it was a necessary sacrifice
for the greater good

I like this post-pyxxy flip. Wolf Lemonfairy doesn’t need to say this unprompted.

Of course I don’t know Lemonfairy’s playstyle\if this is normal

Wolves always have what appear to some to be good posts...what town ever lets their TRs flip w/o ever expressing their doubts?



It's anti town to let your TRs go over w/o some inquiry, pushback, clarification, etc

In context with the rest of lemonfairy’s iso, it looks even better. I’ve never played with them, so I went back to their first game Felt Mafia. I notice a difference in playstyles between the two (as does Wilgy and even lemon self-admits in d2). Mainly, so many of lemon’s posts are shruggy and lacking of confidence. A lot of idk’s and maybe and ??? throughout. Whereas the only other reference in Felt they were a bit more declarative.

So to have an honest-looking post like this one that I listed that makes their thought process look even worse is a good look imo.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

This isn't true. Town needs to misvote twice for wolves to be able to end the game and AFAIK votes aren't locked so game never ends here.

Neon trying to convince town that we're not up against the wall is super sus

Again not what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to clarify that my VOTE wouldn't end the game right NOW

for fucks sake

[falcon45ca]

@Dennis Feels like you're content to sit on the sidelines. Why?



@Roxy If you're town, going MIA will lose us the game. Get in here

[falcon45ca]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

This isn't true. Town needs to misvote twice for wolves to be able to end the game and AFAIK votes aren't locked so game never ends here.

Neon trying to convince town that we're not up against the wall is super sus

Again not what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to clarify that my VOTE wouldn't end the game right NOW

for fucks sake

OK, fair.

[Scotty]

@Dennis Feels like you're content to sit on the sidelines. Why?



@Roxy If you're town, going MIA will lose us the game. Get in here

Who would you vote right now if you could control the vote?

[falcon45ca]

@Dennis Feels like you're content to sit on the sidelines. Why?



@Roxy If you're town, going MIA will lose us the game. Get in here

Who would you vote right now if you could control the vote?

HK or Dennis

[hollowkatt]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

This isn't true. Town needs to misvote twice for wolves to be able to end the game and AFAIK votes aren't locked so game never ends here.

8 alive 5 town 3 wolves is mylo. if we're wrong we go into night at 4/3 and b/c it's mountainous the NK means parity. So yeah while votes aren't locked in being wrong ends the game.

No I'm saying me voting even if I'm wrong and Roxy and I are both town doesn't end the game

we might be talking past each other. If Roxy is chopped today and is town wolves win the game. 5-3 becomes 4-3 with the chop becomes 3-3 with the NK

So if you're town and voting town roxy there's nothing that stops the 3 wolves from piledriving the chop there for the win as long as they can coordinate it. That's what I'm talking about and that's why I'm thinking there's a difference between the two of you because if you were both town the game could potentially end at any time (weird that you don't seem concerned...) and if you're both wolves you're throwing away a potential win today via an unnecessary bus

[hollowkatt]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

This isn't true. Town needs to misvote twice for wolves to be able to end the game and AFAIK votes aren't locked so game never ends here.

Neon trying to convince town that we're not up against the wall is super sus

Again not what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to clarify that my VOTE wouldn't end the game right NOW

for fucks sake

yes your vote doesn't end the game.

[Scotty]

It could be said that Roxy hasn’t posted because she is



Tongue-tied

[Scotty]

Hk ISOing:

someone tag me when the mafia game starts

It will never start.

But seriously I've asked several questions.

I'll ask you one. First impressions?

wigly susing me early is weird but not weird enough for me to push.
ur mostly fine, fluffy as fuck and devoid of content but fine. Kate also fine. Dennis is funny and a literal child but also isn't someone I really wanna kill.

Everyone else can die idc really. except sig he's town

This is a sketchy d1 read list. Too many towns that are a tad convenient.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

This isn't true. Town needs to misvote twice for wolves to be able to end the game and AFAIK votes aren't locked so game never ends here.

8 alive 5 town 3 wolves is mylo. if we're wrong we go into night at 4/3 and b/c it's mountainous the NK means parity. So yeah while votes aren't locked in being wrong ends the game.

No I'm saying me voting even if I'm wrong and Roxy and I are both town doesn't end the game

we might be talking past each other. If Roxy is chopped today and is town wolves win the game. 5-3 becomes 4-3 with the chop becomes 3-3 with the NK

So if you're town and voting town roxy there's nothing that stops the 3 wolves from piledriving the chop there for the win as long as they can coordinate it. That's what I'm talking about and that's why I'm thinking there's a difference between the two of you because if you were both town the game could potentially end at any time (weird that you don't seem concerned...) and if you're both wolves you're throwing away a potential win today via an unnecessary bus

I think we'd are misunderstanding each other but I got you

[Scotty]

[VOTE: wigly] aubergine

ur too excited

I'm gonna vote dennis now for poorly explained reasons like "I don't like his posts" and "his content seems lacking"
I'm gonna protect wigly as long as he posts like he is because it's funny.

[VOTE: dennis] aubergine

This is a progression of someone that hasn’t put too much thought into voting someone off D1, considering he hasn’t mentioned a good chunk of the player base but has already said he’s not gonna push Wilgy and Dennis isn’t someone he wants to kill.

In any case, I don’t think this is a good look for HK

[Dennis]

HK, Neon, Lemon.



@Scotty now that you've woken up, can you give me fresh eyes on these 3 slots?

I should be doing what I like doing when I’m spec’ing- seeing the voting breakdown and not reading a bit of the thread to make wild, unsubstantiated calls on players.

I mean, I sorta did that when I came in, which made me feel the D1 pyxxy poll is fishy. At least one of Roxy/splints has to be bad from my perspective UNLESS Dennis is exactly town and wolves were fine to let town cannabalize each other. Which is possible but unlikely at this point. We obviously have to find the BEST case we can to get a wolf today. I have 3/7 chances to find the correct one (I am town) which ain’t terrible odds.

Anyway, hk/neon/lemon

I’ve said I liked neon’s iso- haven’t looked through citrus pixie or X-ray kat. Will do so in a bit

What does my alignment have to do with this

[Dennis]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

I do believe there is a difference check there.

I said Neon is town, but in a game where roxy is town, lemon and neon look bad for peripheral reasons on wagon dynamics alone.

I don’t currently feel Neon is bad, but honestly? She is the first person to come out today with a modicum of confidence in a player’s alignment when town should be in a bit of a hesitant state. Neon’s vote progression for Roxy *makes sense* as she has had that same suspicion yesterday and, on top of that, Roxy’s association with both NKs have been suspicious

I feel like this is a playstyle difference. Like yeah, you and I are being careful but from my experiences with Neon she tends to be confident and the like

So I'm kinda reading neon's snapvoting and projected confidence as NAI

[Dennis]

@Dennis Feels like you're content to sit on the sidelines. Why?



@Roxy If you're town, going MIA will lose us the game. Get in here

There was precisely nothing to talk about other than scotty's talking the last time I was here

[Dennis]

And I had no qualms with scotty's talking

[Dennis]

Roxy and splints just disappearing while there's so much talk about a difference check between them is rather demotivating

[Scotty]

HK, Neon, Lemon.



@Scotty now that you've woken up, can you give me fresh eyes on these 3 slots?

I should be doing what I like doing when I’m spec’ing- seeing the voting breakdown and not reading a bit of the thread to make wild, unsubstantiated calls on players.

I mean, I sorta did that when I came in, which made me feel the D1 pyxxy poll is fishy. At least one of Roxy/splints has to be bad from my perspective UNLESS Dennis is exactly town and wolves were fine to let town cannabalize each other. Which is possible but unlikely at this point. We obviously have to find the BEST case we can to get a wolf today. I have 3/7 chances to find the correct one (I am town) which ain’t terrible odds.

Anyway, hk/neon/lemon

I’ve said I liked neon’s iso- haven’t looked through citrus pixie or X-ray kat. Will do so in a bit

What does my alignment have to do with this

The two top wagons were pyxxy and you. If you are town, t/t wagons make it less likely wolves were trying to save on D1 and have more freedom to do whatever.

HK as a distant 3rd with 2 votes is a distinct save possibility, however.

[Scotty]

if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town

I do believe there is a difference check there.

I said Neon is town, but in a game where roxy is town, lemon and neon look bad for peripheral reasons on wagon dynamics alone.

I don’t currently feel Neon is bad, but honestly? She is the first person to come out today with a modicum of confidence in a player’s alignment when town should be in a bit of a hesitant state. Neon’s vote progression for Roxy *makes sense* as she has had that same suspicion yesterday and, on top of that, Roxy’s association with both NKs have been suspicious

I feel like this is a playstyle difference. Like yeah, you and I are being careful but from my experiences with Neon she tends to be confident and the like

So I'm kinda reading neon's snapvoting and projected confidence as NAI

Yeah, I’m actually TRing neon decide to snap vote and leave it there, even though votes aren’t locked

[Scotty]

Roxy and splints just disappearing while there's so much talk about a difference check between them is rather demotivating

I’m about as thrilled with splint’s ISO and voting record as getting a $0.06 check in the mail from a residual voice over I did 8 years ago.

But I don’t believe at least one of them isn’t bad. What we know is they’re not around to defend themselves.

But there is a 3rd that has posted today

[falcon45ca]

@Dennis Feels like you're content to sit on the sidelines. Why?



@Roxy If you're town, going MIA will lose us the game. Get in here

There was precisely nothing to talk about other than scotty's talking the last time I was here

We're in MYLO, you force conversation if you're town. Sitting back is what Maf do.