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[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@Neon , I was just looking for clarity. AM’s wording could be read either way, and I didn’t want to make assumptions with a person new to me.

Dope

SVS
Sean
Neon
AM

All obv town

Game ez

Could you clarify the Sean village read to me? I'm not sure if I'm getting tilted.

So uh Sean is a player who will probably tilt you yes and who defs picks people and hard tunnels them early to "get the game started" and who believes in these tiny little reads that I think are rarely actually right and who will later on probably get so far behind he will just ask people who to vote

Buttttt has very good at what he does and you just have to read into if he believes what he's tunneling and with you I think he does or if he's making it up for a valid reason if he doesn't believe it like to get out of rvs or something.

As wolf I think he tends to hard tunnel with kid gloves and doesn't have the conviction behind it.

[falcon45ca]

I do not like the Miranda wagon. This is happening too fast

3 out of 24 votes is hardly anything to get worked up about especially with over 47 hours left.

It just felt like a lot piling onto one person in a very short amount of time

Well, I s'pose you could ask those voting Miranda as to their reasons...but you're not doing that.





Why?

Actually this is sort of hypocritical on review. Falcon votes me immediately after this. They’re tasking issue with my saying I’m uncomfortable with how fast the three votes seemed to pile onto Miranda, and not asking each of the voters for the reasons for their votes.

But then never asks me why I don’t like the wagon.

What’s worse here is I just noted that it was odd how many votes came on Miranda in rapid succession. But I didn’t use that as an opportunity to wolf read anyone or try to vote them out. Falcon here though did the exact same thing he accused me of doing and used it as an excuse to try and get me misyeeted.

That’s foundationally unsound.

You already said why you did not like the wagon, remember?






Now you're saying you found the speed of the wagon odd, before you clearly said you did not like it. So, is it strange, or is it scummy? There's a big difference.







You're also toning down the phrasing each time...first you say you don't like it, then uncomfortable, then odd. You keep scaling back how you feel about the wagon.






I see you still haven't followed up w/ any of the wagon voters. Duly noted.

[dyachei]

sup

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Sup

[dyachei]

skimmed through the thread and I have AM as pretty solid villager

I think seanzie's case on her is his v meta but that's really light. need to see more from him. he's wrong, but he doesn't know AM so I get that

[falcon45ca]

Spoiler: show

What's informing all yer TRs, or are they just gut feels?

This is SDN meta, but Sportponies has knowledge of a secre PSV wolf tell that it has never failed yet, so the read of Sporty into PSV has weight tbh. Specially with PSV , they have a super good tone as wolf and its someone I can easily misread

Do you have a meta read on Sporty right now?

No. The meta read is that Sporty will be able to catch wolf!psv with more success than me, and if they think they are town, its highly likely to be correct, hence the sheeping. Not too complicated

No, I'm asking why you're TR Sporty right now

I never stated a TR on Sporty ¿?

No, not explicitly, but by trusting their read on someone else, you kinda did implicity put a town read on ONE or both of them. Either on Sporty, cause you trust their read, or on PSV, becasue you have reason to trust Sportys read of them. Especially based on a tell that according to Sporty, didn't happen once for five days?

What if they're both bad? What if Sporty is wolfy, and is pocketing PSV with their "currently" town read?

I might feel this more if Sporty hadn't put in that 'once it took five days' caveat.

I've been in a similar situation myself recently, and if the SDN folk all "meh" this, I won't worry about it. But for now, it looks a bit fishy to me.

OK, glad I'm not the only one who read it like that.






I thought I was taking crazy pills or sumfin'...I mean I AM taking crazy pills, but the Doctor's say I'm still sane.

[falcon45ca]

I'm not going to talk to someone who asks me to provide evidence that TSers were sussing Dennis, then asks why I provided evidence that TSers were sussing Dennis after I provide evidence that TSers were sussing dennis, then claims I didn't provide evidence that TSers were sussing dennis.

I feel this could've been phrased more clearly, and it hurts my brain right now.






Here's hoping the Tylenol Cold & Flu kicks in soon

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Miranda920] aubergine

why?

Just the player I was least impressed by in this page.

Why?

[Zenge]

I do not like the Miranda wagon. This is happening too fast

3 out of 24 votes is hardly anything to get worked up about especially with over 47 hours left.

It just felt like a lot piling onto one person in a very short amount of time

Well, I s'pose you could ask those voting Miranda as to their reasons...but you're not doing that.





Why?

Actually this is sort of hypocritical on review. Falcon votes me immediately after this. They’re tasking issue with my saying I’m uncomfortable with how fast the three votes seemed to pile onto Miranda, and not asking each of the voters for the reasons for their votes.

But then never asks me why I don’t like the wagon.

What’s worse here is I just noted that it was odd how many votes came on Miranda in rapid succession. But I didn’t use that as an opportunity to wolf read anyone or try to vote them out. Falcon here though did the exact same thing he accused me of doing and used it as an excuse to try and get me misyeeted.

That’s foundationally unsound.

You already said why you did not like the wagon, remember?






Now you're saying you found the speed of the wagon odd, before you clearly said you did not like it. So, is it strange, or is it scummy? There's a big difference.







You're also toning down the phrasing each time...first you say you don't like it, then uncomfortable, then odd. You keep scaling back how you feel about the wagon.






I see you still haven't followed up w/ any of the wagon voters. Duly noted.

First of all, no, I haven’t said why. I’ve said things about I don’t like but I haven’t stated my primary gripe with it.

Secondly, as part of my issue with the wagon, I originally said I felt like it was happening very quickly. Claiming I only just now have taken issue with the speed is a blatant lie and mischaracterization of reality.

Lastly I don’t need to follow up with the voters at this time. I don’t believe going to each one individually and asking them “why are you voting Miranda?” Like Oliver Twist asking for soup, will yield any relevant information from their catered and crafted answers. That’s not how I solve.

It’s furthermore counterintuitive for you to make such a big todo about how “WhY aReN’T yOu aSkiNg fOr tHeiR rEaSonS?!?!” When you yourself seem wholly uninterested in the reasons yourself.

I have a reason for not asking. But you, who based on your push of me it seems puts an ENORMOUS amount of value on asking people why they’re voting for someone is entirely uninterested in actually figuring out why people are voting for who they are. This is counterintuitive in a way that seems fairly scummy.

[SportPonies]

@SportPonies id be curious to hear your reads beyond just “PSV isn’t wolfing yet”

You get what you get when you get it, Z

Hello Syndicate users,

I am Sporty. This is my fifth WW game and I favor highposters.

Oh we are gonna be best friends

If someone else hasn’t already informed you, all of that post was a lie. Sorry.

PSV is not currently a wolf

Here

I find the wording Intresting

Why currently?

Because she hasn’t done her wolf tell yet

[SportPonies]

Spoiler: show

What's informing all yer TRs, or are they just gut feels?

This is SDN meta, but Sportponies has knowledge of a secre PSV wolf tell that it has never failed yet, so the read of Sporty into PSV has weight tbh. Specially with PSV , they have a super good tone as wolf and its someone I can easily misread

Do you have a meta read on Sporty right now?

No. The meta read is that Sporty will be able to catch wolf!psv with more success than me, and if they think they are town, its highly likely to be correct, hence the sheeping. Not too complicated

No, I'm asking why you're TR Sporty right now

I never stated a TR on Sporty ¿?

No, not explicitly, but by trusting their read on someone else, you kinda did implicity put a town read on ONE or both of them. Either on Sporty, cause you trust their read, or on PSV, becasue you have reason to trust Sportys read of them. Especially based on a tell that according to Sporty, didn't happen once for five days?

What if they're both bad? What if Sporty is wolfy, and is pocketing PSV with their "currently" town read?

I might feel this more if Sporty hadn't put in that 'once it took five days' caveat.

I've been in a similar situation myself recently, and if the SDN folk all "meh" this, I won't worry about it. But for now, it looks a bit fishy to me.

I was thinking this myself, so thanks for pointing it out.

Don't know 'em well enough to say for sure, but they look like it.

Looks like Mayo beat me to the trigger on my comment. I’ll catch up before I say anything else.

It’s an interesting read.

Hello Syndicate users,

I am Sporty. This is my fifth WW game and I favor highposters.

Mother, when will the lies stop?

:care:

[dyachei]

i feel so out of touch with SDNers (other than AM) but i'm kind of liking sporty rn

[SportPonies]

Hello Syndicate users,

I am Sporty. This is my fifth WW game and I favor highposters.

Oh we are gonna be best friends

The only thing that was true there is that she is Sporty. This being her fifth WW game and loving high posters were aggressively lies. I’m 76% sure she’s vig shot people for high posting.

Nah, I only shoot wolves

And unkillable masons.

[SportPonies]

Wait quick question

Does the Syndicate usually play with mafia as the bad affiliation or wolves?

*squints*

[dyachei]

idk, i think it's host dependent

[SportPonies]

i feel so out of touch with SDNers (other than AM) but i'm kind of liking sporty rn

Spooky

[dyachei]

i feel so out of touch with SDNers (other than AM) but i'm kind of liking sporty rn

Spooky

boo?

[Marmot]

owo

[dyachei]

marmot!

[Marmot]

dyacheiiiiiii!!

[Marmot]

I am excited to finally play a game with you where I am not a wolf.

[SportPonies]

Wait quick question

Does the Syndicate usually play with mafia as the bad affiliation or wolves?

*squints*

Answers from syndicate regulars are appreciated too, even if dy is correct

[dyachei]

I am excited to finally play a game with you where I am not a wolf.

same!

[Marmot]

Dennis is playing with a high amount of unabated excitement this game, and some of his engagements seem like they're posting content for the sake of content like in #245.

I'd lean slightly wolf on him atm. The reason I don't feel more strongly yet is much of that content was Day 0, and I also opted to post zero game-related content during that time.

[Marmot]

Wait quick question

Does the Syndicate usually play with mafia as the bad affiliation or wolves?

*squints*

Answers from syndicate regulars are appreciated too, even if dy is correct

Are you asking whether it's mafia or wolves?

The host will often call them the mafia team, but the players here often use the terms interchangeably.

"Player X is mafia"
"Player Y is wolfing"
"Player Z do be howlin'."

[S~V~S]

Wait quick question

Does the Syndicate usually play with mafia as the bad affiliation or wolves?

*squints*

Kind of interchangeable? As individuals we revert to the terminology from our original forums. In my original home forum, we called town “civvies” and mafia “baddies”. Lol, no we weren’t 12. I still say “civvies” a lot, “baddies” occasionally.

But yeah, I don’t think anyone much notices anymore, you’ll hear all the words.

[SportPonies]

Wait quick question

Does the Syndicate usually play with mafia as the bad affiliation or wolves?

*squints*

Answers from syndicate regulars are appreciated too, even if dy is correct

Are you asking whether it's mafia or wolves?

The host will often call them the mafia team, but the players here often use the terms interchangeably.

"Player X is mafia"
"Player Y is wolfing"
"Player Z do be howlin'."

I was asking specifically for what the host calls them

But if terminology is fairly interchangeable then what I thought I found might not be a slip after all

[Marmot]

Wait quick question

Does the Syndicate usually play with mafia as the bad affiliation or wolves?

*squints*

Answers from syndicate regulars are appreciated too, even if dy is correct

Are you asking whether it's mafia or wolves?

The host will often call them the mafia team, but the players here often use the terms interchangeably.

"Player X is mafia"
"Player Y is wolfing"
"Player Z do be howlin'."

I was asking specifically for what the host calls them

But if terminology is fairly interchangeable then what I thought I found might not be a slip after all

Do you have any opinions about any of the SDN players at this point?

[Marmot]

Wait quick question

Does the Syndicate usually play with mafia as the bad affiliation or wolves?

*squints*

Answers from syndicate regulars are appreciated too, even if dy is correct

Are you asking whether it's mafia or wolves?

The host will often call them the mafia team, but the players here often use the terms interchangeably.

"Player X is mafia"
"Player Y is wolfing"
"Player Z do be howlin'."

I was asking specifically for what the host calls them

But if terminology is fairly interchangeable then what I thought I found might not be a slip after all

Do you have any opinions about any of the SDN players at this point?

[Marmot]

That question was very important which is why I asked it twice.

[dyachei]

Wait quick question

Does the Syndicate usually play with mafia as the bad affiliation or wolves?

*squints*

Answers from syndicate regulars are appreciated too, even if dy is correct

Are you asking whether it's mafia or wolves?

The host will often call them the mafia team, but the players here often use the terms interchangeably.

"Player X is mafia"
"Player Y is wolfing"
"Player Z do be howlin'."

I was asking specifically for what the host calls them

But if terminology is fairly interchangeable then what I thought I found might not be a slip after all

what did you think was a slip

[Marmot]

I think Neon is fairly clearly town at this point. She reminds me of how she played in GoC (which yes was a game where I was a wolf and strongly pushed her as town and pocketed her, but we can ignore that part)

[Marmot]

@MacDougall is not in this game and I'm a sad banana.

[Marmot]

Sloonei is prodding in random places, which while I don't think is hard town meta for him to replicate, it does look like his town meta, so I would give him a townlean for now.

[SportPonies]

Abigail,

It has been a trying night. My only comfort in those long hours was the knowledge that you were safely back at home.

Whilst I was in the depths of my despair, I had the most wonderful surprise!

As I am sure you must already be aware, mother has decided to come join me. I was worried she wouldn't recognize me. Time and distance have aged me nearly beyond recognition.

I could sense the trepidation in her face as she first looked upon me, and I must confess, the waters of my soul were near breaching the levees to my sanity when she at first seemed not to recognize my face. Alas, a mother's love does is not yet limited by spacial or temporal boundaries.

The wildlife here is wonderful, but I cannot shake the underlying sense of foreboding whenever I brave the wilderness. Abigail, I hear voices. I see visions.

Terrible visions.

Please keep me in your thoughts as you must know you are in mine.

-Mayo

PS Les voix disent bonjour à maman

Yo. I'm probably not safe or in bed. I mean I'm about to murder a Werewolf.

If “mafia” terminology was the norm here, this felt TMI

[Marmot]

If anyone takes any issue with the things about Syndicaters I'm sharing, please lmk.

I've got like 15 minutes before I've got to head to work, so I'm working on some preliminary reads for now.

[SportPonies]

Wait quick question

Does the Syndicate usually play with mafia as the bad affiliation or wolves?

*squints*

Answers from syndicate regulars are appreciated too, even if dy is correct

Are you asking whether it's mafia or wolves?

The host will often call them the mafia team, but the players here often use the terms interchangeably.

"Player X is mafia"
"Player Y is wolfing"
"Player Z do be howlin'."

I was asking specifically for what the host calls them

But if terminology is fairly interchangeable then what I thought I found might not be a slip after all

Do you have any opinions about any of the SDN players at this point?

I already clearly stated that PSV is in my “town for now” bucket, and I’m voting Miranda.

I think AM is playing within her village meta but I honestly don’t know if I’ve ever independently caught her wolfing

[Marmot]

Abigail,

It has been a trying night. My only comfort in those long hours was the knowledge that you were safely back at home.

Whilst I was in the depths of my despair, I had the most wonderful surprise!

As I am sure you must already be aware, mother has decided to come join me. I was worried she wouldn't recognize me. Time and distance have aged me nearly beyond recognition.

I could sense the trepidation in her face as she first looked upon me, and I must confess, the waters of my soul were near breaching the levees to my sanity when she at first seemed not to recognize my face. Alas, a mother's love does is not yet limited by spacial or temporal boundaries.

The wildlife here is wonderful, but I cannot shake the underlying sense of foreboding whenever I brave the wilderness. Abigail, I hear voices. I see visions.

Terrible visions.

Please keep me in your thoughts as you must know you are in mine.

-Mayo

PS Les voix disent bonjour à maman

Yo. I'm probably not safe or in bed. I mean I'm about to murder a Werewolf.

If “mafia” terminology was the norm here, this felt TMI

I like the thought here.

I did a quick search in Neon's post history on the site, and she's used that specific term in multiple other games across the site. I think I'd agree with your other post that it probably wasn't a slip.

I think this is a townie sentiment from you though.

[Marmot]

Wait quick question

Does the Syndicate usually play with mafia as the bad affiliation or wolves?

*squints*

Answers from syndicate regulars are appreciated too, even if dy is correct

Are you asking whether it's mafia or wolves?

The host will often call them the mafia team, but the players here often use the terms interchangeably.

"Player X is mafia"
"Player Y is wolfing"
"Player Z do be howlin'."

I was asking specifically for what the host calls them

But if terminology is fairly interchangeable then what I thought I found might not be a slip after all

Do you have any opinions about any of the SDN players at this point?

I already clearly stated that PSV is in my “town for now” bucket, and I’m voting Miranda.

I think AM is playing within her village meta but I honestly don’t know if I’ve ever independently caught her wolfing

What did Mirando do?

[falcon45ca]

We got more.

Genny:

Spoiler: show

Is this really the place to play a game. I always felt this was a forum to, well, play a game, and discuss issues pertaining to the mafia game player. I look at the other mafia forums and see questions and concerns about their respective chosen votes. I look at the syndicate and see I game playing. At the very least, this just doesn't look professional. I see children here who are not serious about their game playing. Online gaming is fine, but not here.

See, this site needs reacts because this post deserves it's moment in the sun

Agreed, I miss react buttons *sad face*

Don’t you just love it when guests come over and complain about your decor?

I’m excited about all the options for ISOs that I will never do!

Caustic approach. Slightly pessimistic but thoughtful.
You are a crow, and definitely good.

potentialsheltervet:

Spoiler: show

Playing on a forum that doesn't censor profanity feels illegal. And empowering.

Is enriched and strengthened by profanity.

I also [VOTE: sleep] aubergine

So I’m picking you out of the community to ask:

-how are you?
-do you actually handle dogs?
-what’s your least favorite dog?
-if the answer is Scotty, don’t
-I have a mean bark and a terribly ineffective bite
-What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

Very tired, actually going to sleep maybe
Yes, the SAR is for search and rescue though I've been out of it a few years now
Probably huskies tbh but I think that's my vet showing
It's ok, Scotties be cool
African or European?

Smh everyone hates on huskies. Embracing the drama is way more fun.

Tut tuts those that don’t like drama.

What is the worst animal?

Geese. They’re mean and poop everywhere.

Shut the fuck up

Inimical. Has a prickly defense.

You’re a North American porcupine, and you are probably good.

SportPonies:

Spoiler: show

Note that I left out those that haven’t posted or if I missed their posts.

But I’ve solved a good majority of the game.

Everyone that’s good can get in my arc and we shall reside in love and peace and harmony

what am I? Get to work.

*playbows*

You’re a hippogriff, and you already have the most posts even though you hadn’t posted until 4 hours ago. So you’re probably just bad and mega posting because you’re trying to overcompensate for the fact that you’re not even real.

Sorry.

Creature:

Spoiler: show

Boy I am angry and exhausted

You sound like my father-in-law.

You are probably my father-in-law. He’s firmly 3P and keeps trying to offer me unprompted financial advice. As I’ve said before, Greg, we’re doing fine and my portfolio IS already diversified with foreign investments.

I’m sorry about your rand, Creature.

Also, I read all of this and understood nothing.

Is this a very crafty and unnecesarly complex way of posting fluff?

It's a reads list.

How seriously do you feel Scotty's reads actually are in these lists tho?






Kinda feels...I dunno, splish-splashy.






All filler, no killer if ya know what I mean

[falcon45ca]

I do not like the Miranda wagon. This is happening too fast

3 out of 24 votes is hardly anything to get worked up about especially with over 47 hours left.

It just felt like a lot piling onto one person in a very short amount of time

Well, I s'pose you could ask those voting Miranda as to their reasons...but you're not doing that.





Why?

Actually this is sort of hypocritical on review. Falcon votes me immediately after this. They’re tasking issue with my saying I’m uncomfortable with how fast the three votes seemed to pile onto Miranda, and not asking each of the voters for the reasons for their votes.

But then never asks me why I don’t like the wagon.

What’s worse here is I just noted that it was odd how many votes came on Miranda in rapid succession. But I didn’t use that as an opportunity to wolf read anyone or try to vote them out. Falcon here though did the exact same thing he accused me of doing and used it as an excuse to try and get me misyeeted.

That’s foundationally unsound.

You already said why you did not like the wagon, remember?






Now you're saying you found the speed of the wagon odd, before you clearly said you did not like it. So, is it strange, or is it scummy? There's a big difference.







You're also toning down the phrasing each time...first you say you don't like it, then uncomfortable, then odd. You keep scaling back how you feel about the wagon.






I see you still haven't followed up w/ any of the wagon voters. Duly noted.

First of all, no, I haven’t said why. I’ve said things about I don’t like but I haven’t stated my primary gripe with it.

Secondly, as part of my issue with the wagon, I originally said I felt like it was happening very quickly. Claiming I only just now have taken issue with the speed is a blatant lie and mischaracterization of reality.

Lastly I don’t need to follow up with the voters at this time. I don’t believe going to each one individually and asking them “why are you voting Miranda?” Like Oliver Twist asking for soup, will yield any relevant information from their catered and crafted answers. That’s not how I solve.

It’s furthermore counterintuitive for you to make such a big todo about how “WhY aReN’T yOu aSkiNg fOr tHeiR rEaSonS?!?!” When you yourself seem wholly uninterested in the reasons yourself.

I have a reason for not asking. But you, who based on your push of me it seems puts an ENORMOUS amount of value on asking people why they’re voting for someone is entirely uninterested in actually figuring out why people are voting for who they are. This is counterintuitive in a way that seems fairly scummy.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

[Zenge]

3 out of 24 votes is hardly anything to get worked up about especially with over 47 hours left.

It just felt like a lot piling onto one person in a very short amount of time

Well, I s'pose you could ask those voting Miranda as to their reasons...but you're not doing that.





Why?

Actually this is sort of hypocritical on review. Falcon votes me immediately after this. They’re tasking issue with my saying I’m uncomfortable with how fast the three votes seemed to pile onto Miranda, and not asking each of the voters for the reasons for their votes.

But then never asks me why I don’t like the wagon.

What’s worse here is I just noted that it was odd how many votes came on Miranda in rapid succession. But I didn’t use that as an opportunity to wolf read anyone or try to vote them out. Falcon here though did the exact same thing he accused me of doing and used it as an excuse to try and get me misyeeted.

That’s foundationally unsound.

You already said why you did not like the wagon, remember?






Now you're saying you found the speed of the wagon odd, before you clearly said you did not like it. So, is it strange, or is it scummy? There's a big difference.







You're also toning down the phrasing each time...first you say you don't like it, then uncomfortable, then odd. You keep scaling back how you feel about the wagon.






I see you still haven't followed up w/ any of the wagon voters. Duly noted.

First of all, no, I haven’t said why. I’ve said things about I don’t like but I haven’t stated my primary gripe with it.

Secondly, as part of my issue with the wagon, I originally said I felt like it was happening very quickly. Claiming I only just now have taken issue with the speed is a blatant lie and mischaracterization of reality.

Lastly I don’t need to follow up with the voters at this time. I don’t believe going to each one individually and asking them “why are you voting Miranda?” Like Oliver Twist asking for soup, will yield any relevant information from their catered and crafted answers. That’s not how I solve.

It’s furthermore counterintuitive for you to make such a big todo about how “WhY aReN’T yOu aSkiNg fOr tHeiR rEaSonS?!?!” When you yourself seem wholly uninterested in the reasons yourself.

I have a reason for not asking. But you, who based on your push of me it seems puts an ENORMOUS amount of value on asking people why they’re voting for someone is entirely uninterested in actually figuring out why people are voting for who they are. This is counterintuitive in a way that seems fairly scummy.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Yes, you’re clearly putting in the effort to actually have a conversation about this.

The fact that you didn’t ask what my primary gripe with the Miranda wagon actually is, is telling that you’re wholly uninterested in actually solving.

[SportPonies]

Dearest Abigail,

Your brother is safe in my arms again. If the days were longer and the foraging more plentiful, it would be a joyous reunion indeed. I fear that celebrations will have to wait until we all are reunited. For now, breaking meager bread is all I can do.

It has been some time since your brother has joined me in my travels and I look forward to walking arm in arm with him again. I'm proud of the strides he has made in life, however I can't help but feel that time and college have changed him. He tells brazen stories of his travels. Of people he was afraid to help. I hope that rest and his mother's presence are enough to calm him.

Je ne sais pas parler français, donc ça vient d'un traducteur.

-Mother

P.S. I really should have contemplated your youngest brother's name a while longer. I do hope he is well in the sandy place.

[Marmot]

@Zenge did you have an opinion about Miranda specifically, or Moreno the speed of the votes piling on her?

[falcon45ca]

It just felt like a lot piling onto one person in a very short amount of time

Well, I s'pose you could ask those voting Miranda as to their reasons...but you're not doing that.





Why?

Actually this is sort of hypocritical on review. Falcon votes me immediately after this. They’re tasking issue with my saying I’m uncomfortable with how fast the three votes seemed to pile onto Miranda, and not asking each of the voters for the reasons for their votes.

But then never asks me why I don’t like the wagon.

What’s worse here is I just noted that it was odd how many votes came on Miranda in rapid succession. But I didn’t use that as an opportunity to wolf read anyone or try to vote them out. Falcon here though did the exact same thing he accused me of doing and used it as an excuse to try and get me misyeeted.

That’s foundationally unsound.

You already said why you did not like the wagon, remember?






Now you're saying you found the speed of the wagon odd, before you clearly said you did not like it. So, is it strange, or is it scummy? There's a big difference.







You're also toning down the phrasing each time...first you say you don't like it, then uncomfortable, then odd. You keep scaling back how you feel about the wagon.






I see you still haven't followed up w/ any of the wagon voters. Duly noted.

First of all, no, I haven’t said why. I’ve said things about I don’t like but I haven’t stated my primary gripe with it.

Secondly, as part of my issue with the wagon, I originally said I felt like it was happening very quickly. Claiming I only just now have taken issue with the speed is a blatant lie and mischaracterization of reality.

Lastly I don’t need to follow up with the voters at this time. I don’t believe going to each one individually and asking them “why are you voting Miranda?” Like Oliver Twist asking for soup, will yield any relevant information from their catered and crafted answers. That’s not how I solve.

It’s furthermore counterintuitive for you to make such a big todo about how “WhY aReN’T yOu aSkiNg fOr tHeiR rEaSonS?!?!” When you yourself seem wholly uninterested in the reasons yourself.

I have a reason for not asking. But you, who based on your push of me it seems puts an ENORMOUS amount of value on asking people why they’re voting for someone is entirely uninterested in actually figuring out why people are voting for who they are. This is counterintuitive in a way that seems fairly scummy.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Yes, you’re clearly putting in the effort to actually have a conversation about this.

The fact that you didn’t ask what my primary gripe with the Miranda wagon actually is, is telling that you’re wholly uninterested in actually solving.

So, what is your gripe?






For the record, when someone says "I don't like this cuz of X", I will always assume that X is their primary reason.







When you say "I don't like this wagon, cuz it's happening too quickly" I assume you don't like the wagon, cuz it's happening too quickly.







When I asked you why you haven't followed up w/ any of the wagon voters, and get a whole lotta deflection w/ no real answers, well that doesn't really seem like you care to solve the wagon at all.








The irony of being told by a player who doesn't question players on a wagon he doesn't like that I'm not solving...

[SportPonies]

What did Mirando do?

It's just her tone.
But I mentored someone else during her first game, modded her second, and if I did play with her, it was after subbing in on like D2 for someone who was digging themselves a hole.

Edit: meaning I need to refer back to some old games to see if this is legit or not

[Marmot]

*moreso

[falcon45ca]

What did Mirando do?

It's just her tone.
But I mentored someone else during her first game, modded her second, and if I did play with her, it was after subbing in on like D2 for someone who was digging themselves a hole.

Edit: meaning I need to refer back to some old games to see if this is legit or not

I guess I missed it, what's her tone diff that you're seeing here?

[SportPonies]

What did Mirando do?

It's just her tone.
But I mentored someone else during her first game, modded her second, and if I did play with her, it was after subbing in on like D2 for someone who was digging themselves a hole.

Edit: meaning I need to refer back to some old games to see if this is legit or not

I guess I missed it, what's her tone diff that you're seeing here?

Sporty voice: tone

[Animal Midwife]

What did Mirando do?

It's just her tone.
But I mentored someone else during her first game, modded her second, and if I did play with her, it was after subbing in on like D2 for someone who was digging themselves a hole.

Edit: meaning I need to refer back to some old games to see if this is legit or not

We're not supposed to edit any posts just as a heads up.