Solar System Mafia [END]

[Porscha]

so unless one of us were to make a wagon at 3 and both wolves simultaneously voted it to hammer, they would also be outed

i'm okay not rushing too much but hammering in this state is also just like. net negative and kind of looks super duper bad imo

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

They were suboptimal by clear virtue of having mislynched a townie.

conclusion that rondo dying was surprising thru virtue of reverse psych isn't possible because somehow every person who has posted today appears surprised he died. therefore the actual reverse psychology would have been to kill him. one of you who is saying it was surprising is hecking uwu liar!!! I refuse all of you are going full logical bonobo to believe it genuinely b/c there has been no good reason suggested to not kill rondo besides maybe wrong reads / pocketed, however he clearly was not pocketed by a single person and his reads are so volatile *it doesn't matter what they were*

Besides you immediately gave EPI's post saying they were afraid of rondo being a "loud loose cannon" as an example so clearly rondo was a threat, regardless of their alignment, and we can all simultaneously stop lying / being silly about it being an actual surprise

nobody has offered a townier individual than rondo and there is no PR to prevent him from dying. and he made it worse for himself by also being on the lemon wagon. there is no reason to be surprised ergo I do not believe half the game who checked in *actually* believes it was surprising rondo died

we do have slankers I agree, but no reason to focus falcon past his lemon vote which was planted 7 years before she was big wagon and he never came back. no other slanker had a "good" vote either imo

slight tinfoilitis probs towniest thing about the post so i'm ok with you for now besides the rondo thing

Like this is just incorrect. If Rondo is hard pushing townies there's no reason to kill him he's loud and town will listen. And he was pushing townies. It's literally not insane to think this way.

Sauce: me. I'm good at woofin.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

psv's push on me is just a pocket attempt on thunal who keeps randomly and loudly proclaiming that i'm polarized but supposedly unable to see how i'm towny at all so thunal is probably town

ricochet said a lot of pretty good words but some of the conclusions were suboptimal

But like... your not polarized

if i'm not polarized and you were just fooled by me wolfing then why aren't you more paranoid of me

I don't allow myself to do that. This happened recently someone used this exact rationale to push me.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Like if I allow the doubt to creep in I freeze.

And it happens a lot... so I'm trying to not let it happen and believe in myself. Cause like...I suck but not always.

[Roxy]

Ya know every game I'm in I have to defend and frankly I'm tired of it.

Players acting like they know me or my style. Saying I'm slank which sounds awful like moist.

Rico when was the last time we played together? Literally years si stop acting like you *know* my game.

Epi is still mad bc last time he was bad I came him out on it not that anyone listened to me.

So for now I'm just not feeling like I want to defend yet again.

It's Sunday my only day off of work I would much rather spend that time having a happy day with Ariya than be here defending to people who don't really care to hear it. And I'm tired of doing it. This will be the third time in all 3 games I'm playing on this site.

If you think that this is me being baddie bc I won't defend you will be disappointed when you elim me to find I am town. A town who just doesn't care today.

Good luck town.

I would look at meh what's it meter no one listens anyway

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

[Ricochet]

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

QED on the trigger happy

[Ricochet]

Roxy, I don’t get why you took anything I said in bad faith, was not my intention. I even kept giving you credit that you would want to play actively. You’re still in the lower echelon of posters, though, for I objectively would find it problematic to go with you into f7 or f5.

Enjoy your entire Sunday, I’m on the road myself, there is no appeal to anyone not enjoying their game (or time away from) as they please.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I truly adore hammers

[fingersplints]

Trying to catch up. If anyone has any questions for me feel free to ask them and notify me again. I’ve had a particularly busy weekend we will be moving out of London soon so trying to get in as much as I can. Yesterday I booked into an event called Dawnosaurs which is for neurodivergent children and their families. So amazing!

[fingersplints]

Ya know every game I'm in I have to defend and frankly I'm tired of it.

Players acting like they know me or my style. Saying I'm slank which sounds awful like moist.

Rico when was the last time we played together? Literally years si stop acting like you *know* my game.

Epi is still mad bc last time he was bad I came him out on it not that anyone listened to me.

So for now I'm just not feeling like I want to defend yet again.

It's Sunday my only day off of work I would much rather spend that time having a happy day with Ariya than be here defending to people who don't really care to hear it. And I'm tired of doing it. This will be the third time in all 3 games I'm playing on this site.

If you think that this is me being baddie bc I won't defend you will be disappointed when you elim me to find I am town. A town who just doesn't care today.

Good luck town.

I would look at meh what's it meter no one listens anyway

I know you

[Ricochet]

I truly adore hammers

[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Perish before f3 pls

[fingersplints]

In all seriousness Rox isn’t mafia. Her vs epi is likely t/t
She wouldn’t be reacting like this if she was mafia
This is well within Epi’s scum range, but his continued push feels genuine

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I truly adore hammers

[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Perish before f3 pls

I snap vote in FX like a true bad ass

[Roxy]

Roxy, I don’t get why you took anything I said in bad faith, was not my intention. I even kept giving you credit that you would want to play actively. You’re still in the lower echelon of posters, though, for I objectively would find it problematic to go with you into f7 or f5.

Enjoy your entire Sunday, I’m on the road myself, there is no appeal to anyone not enjoying their game (or time away from) as they please.

I did not take it in bad faith.

You can take high posters only to the end if you want but you are limiting yourself that way. I play actively too I just don't post one liner posts very much and instead make my posts count. To each their own style. I do not think either way is wrong but I see others judging whether my 6 posts can glean as much as someone else's 60 posts.

I get it and I <3 you.

The only reason I am posting here again is for your benefit bc I adore you here and rl. Happy Sunday Rico

[fingersplints]

Nah splints isn't scared of me if she was in thread we would have a magical fun conversation like I had with lemon. I would be so happy but she might have been avoiding me

He’s gone but this is true. I am not afraid of him
Not avoiding. Just busy

[fingersplints]

Nah I don't KNOW splints I've played games with her if that makes sense

Okay. I was making a read that if splints gets scared easily, she'd probably be scared of your taking charge and reaction testing playstyle.

I’ve been playing for 15+ years. I don’t get scared easily at all

[fingersplints]

And I know first hand splints is terrified of posting as wolf when there's people who know them in the game.

This isn’t true at all.

You have based this off of one game where I killed a friend early because she was a threat for suspecting you and our other teammate was her son. Then at the end of game I opted out of posting for a couple hours because I knew posting made things worse (which it did for the town) but made it clear to our teammate Dennis I would be around if need be

There is not a single person who plays mafia who would “scare” me. I’ve been playing for a long time. If I was scared to play I wouldn’t have made it two decades

[fingersplints]

Seems I will spend today on the defence again instead of actually spending my time scum hunting. Well done mafia for the lhf distraction

[fingersplints]

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

[fingersplints]

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

[fingersplints]

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

[fingersplints]

[VOTE: psv] aubergine

[fingersplints]

[VOTE: rico] aubergine

[fingersplints]

[VOTE: roxy] aubergine

[fingersplints]

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine

[fingersplints]

[VOTE: zenon] aubergine

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

And I know first hand splints is terrified of posting as wolf when there's people who know them in the game.

This isn’t true at all.

You have based this off of one game where I killed a friend early because she was a threat for suspecting you and our other teammate was her son. Then at the end of game I opted out of posting for a couple hours because I knew posting made things worse (which it did for the town) but made it clear to our teammate Dennis I would be around if need be

There is not a single person who plays mafia who would “scare” me. I’ve been playing for a long time. If I was scared to play I wouldn’t have made it two decades

This is literally what you said in scum chat...

[fingersplints]

Doubt it

[fingersplints]

There is not a single player who scares me to the point I would change how I play

[Thunal33]

Wrt the Rondo kill, I'm not surprised and I also don't necessarily think it means his reads were right. I think a lot of wolves would kill the high posting and loud voice controlling the thread regardless of his reads since his reads could switch any time.

[Thunal33]

I think Splints is being genuine about being not scared but could be either alignment and not scared. @fingersplints could you give a quick readslist?

[Thunal33]

My issue with Porscha is that there's nothing I can point to from her and say it's towny, and from what I know about Porscha's town game there usually would be.

my issue with porscha is that there's nothing I can point to from her and say it's wolfy, and from what I know about porscha's wolf game, there usually would be.



fix this conundrum you've created unless you'd like to admit I'm just flat straight null

fwiw, my impression of your wolf game isn't that it's obviously wolfy but that there's an absence of the curiosity and solving in your town game. I don't think your wolf game is as bad as you say it is.

I'm moving Porscha up to a townlean after her recent posting. There were a couple town pings I got, like this post I think comes more often from town:

psv's push on me is just a pocket attempt on thunal who keeps randomly and loudly proclaiming that i'm polarized but supposedly unable to see how i'm towny at all so thunal is probably town

ricochet said a lot of pretty good words but some of the conclusions were suboptimal

But like... your not polarized

if i'm not polarized and you were just fooled by me wolfing then why aren't you more paranoid of me

I also think that since Porscha believes she's polarized her challenging my statement today is towny. Her nudging me to make a stronger read on her is a bit more likely to come from someone who thinks I'll read her town, so either a townie or someone who thinks I'll be fooled by her wolf game and I don't think it's the latter.

[Thunal33]

players off wagon by eod:

roxy on epi
zenon on fs
psv on porscha
lemonfairy on rico
epi on roxy
and because I live in a glass house, I was on zenon

falcon rico thunal and rondo on lemon

falcon was early and never come back vote
rondo was give up no other wagon exists vote at eod
@Ricochet and @Thunal33 can you please reiterate why you were on lemon after she gave plenty of good feedback post-catch up? ftr whoever said they were worried that lemon focused on rondo too much felt fake AF so fess up at your own risk

I had a couple reasons. It was how the Rondo focus matched up with a tell I have of someone focusing on the same person while switching their read a bunch of times. In hindsight I was a bit too afraid of repeating past mistakes with the S8 finale where Katze did a very similar constant switching on me and I was fooled by it, so I thought Lemon doing it to Rondo was wolfy. At EoD I thought Lemon's posts being very wishy washy, like her vote coming with "idk" and not having a legacy stronger than there being a wolf on her wagon made me more confident in my vote.

[Thunal33]

I want to give Roxy room to breathe and see how she solves without as much pressure. From her reaction I think she'll probably show her alignment better if she doesn't have the pressure on her.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[potentialsheltervet]

Reverse psych in this specific context of Rondo stating so open that he’ll bite the N1 bullet and his reads having been enough of a scramble.

Yeah, I get the remove loud speaker mindset, but idk why, I still wouldn’t have expected it 100%.

Yes, this is all I was trying to say basically

[potentialsheltervet]

Also re: the question of how I'd feel about chopping lowposters if it were F5/F7, obviously I'd have no qualms at that point. Just that my preference is to elim people for content and not lack thereof, if that makes sense.

[potentialsheltervet]

Fuck it

[VOTE: PSV] aubergine

I don't town read them I just think there's wolfier slots but meh

Really, Zenon? After the game we just played? Lol

[potentialsheltervet]

Ya know every game I'm in I have to defend and frankly I'm tired of it.

Players acting like they know me or my style. Saying I'm slank which sounds awful like moist.

Rico when was the last time we played together? Literally years si stop acting like you *know* my game.

Epi is still mad bc last time he was bad I came him out on it not that anyone listened to me.

So for now I'm just not feeling like I want to defend yet again.

It's Sunday my only day off of work I would much rather spend that time having a happy day with Ariya than be here defending to people who don't really care to hear it. And I'm tired of doing it. This will be the third time in all 3 games I'm playing on this site.

If you think that this is me being baddie bc I won't defend you will be disappointed when you elim me to find I am town. A town who just doesn't care today.

Good luck town.

I would look at meh what's it meter no one listens anyway

This is angry towny or I'll eat a hat.

[potentialsheltervet]

@Thunal33 You're my strongest townlean. How are you reading Zenon? I haven't been a fan of some of her recent posts. I think her and Porscha is w/v and I wouldn't be surprised if she spewed Porscha town tbh
Also though I don't trust my ability to read her so... oomph

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Please note that a majority hammer is in effect starting this day phase. The hammer is set at 5 votes.

[Ricochet]

Goin back on [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[Ricochet]

At the time of her reaction, my thought was to place Roxy in towncamp for her outburst - and if a ploy, take the L and go from there next game.

But I’m happy to let it evolve further.

[fingersplints]

At the time of her reaction, my thought was to place Roxy in towncamp for her outburst - and if a ploy, take the L and go from there next game.

But I’m happy to let it evolve further.

Very hedgey

Why the falcon votes? Just because he’s posted less? I’ve seen town falcon and mafia falcon and posting less is NAI. He’s probably just busy. Give people a chance

[fingersplints]

I want to give Roxy room to breathe and see how she solves without as much pressure. From her reaction I think she'll probably show her alignment better if she doesn't have the pressure on her.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Again, why give one player room to breathe but not another? Do you all really think eliminating every low poster solves the game?

[Ricochet]

At the time of her reaction, my thought was to place Roxy in towncamp for her outburst - and if a ploy, take the L and go from there next game.

But I’m happy to let it evolve further.

Very hedgey

Why the falcon votes? Just because he’s posted less? I’ve seen town falcon and mafia falcon and posting less is NAI. He’s probably just busy. Give people a chance

The gist is that he openly sheeped a D1 vote, didn’t come back, and currently is still not active.

I’ll give it every chance, but for how long, iyo, if nothing changes?

[Ricochet]

I want to give Roxy room to breathe and see how she solves without as much pressure. From her reaction I think she'll probably show her alignment better if she doesn't have the pressure on her.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Again, why give one player room to breathe but not another? Do you all really think eliminating every low poster solves the game?

We’re far from there yet, but do you prefer an f5 phase with such inactives still in the mix? Do you get reads from no content and sheep votes?

[fingersplints]

I want to give Roxy room to breathe and see how she solves without as much pressure. From her reaction I think she'll probably show her alignment better if she doesn't have the pressure on her.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Again, why give one player room to breathe but not another? Do you all really think eliminating every low poster solves the game?

We’re far from there yet, but do you prefer an f5 phase with such inactives still in the mix? Do you get reads from no content and sheep votes?

Have you known falcon to get to day 5 with giving no reads?

[fingersplints]

Is falcon being quieter day 1 indicative of a mafia falcon?

[Ricochet]

I don’t know the answers to either of those, I haven’t played enough or have been out of touch to remember much falcon meta.

My idea is rather how to lean or clear town for such actions, especially if the dynamic won’t change much.