thellama73 wrote:Well the Blooper kill makes no sense. She was alost certainly going to be lynched today, so why would the unseen forces waste their kill? Is a redirect possible?
Maybe, that would make more sense.
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thellama73 wrote:Well the Blooper kill makes no sense. She was alost certainly going to be lynched today, so why would the unseen forces waste their kill? Is a redirect possible?
Definitely Russ... I used to know who that guy was (we're allowed to say that right?), but these days he seems much shiftier.Snowman wrote:Well, my BTSC is pretty dead, so I'll just ask here--Ty or Russ, who should die next?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
Do you resent other people taking a leadership role?thellama73 wrote:I'm probably going to be looking @Ty and Zombrella today. Ty feels like he is being led (which may not mean much because of all the civ BTSC) and Zombrella seems too eager to assume a leadership role.
I think FZ is legit, and I'm 90% sure Zomberella is too, unless something changed recently. I'm leaning toward Ty.thellama73 wrote:Also, what do people think of FZ? I feel like she's been skulking along under the radar more than she usually does.
Why don't you trust Ty?Snowman wrote:I think FZ is legit, and I'm 90% sure Zomberella is too, unless something changed recently. I'm leaning toward Ty.thellama73 wrote:Also, what do people think of FZ? I feel like she's been skulking along under the radar more than she usually does.
What is the current Baddie vs. Civvie count, does anyone know?
But Bloop was going to die anyway, so was she an accidental kill that happened when a baddie targeted someone else, or does one baddie group target the other?
Is that just cause I like to vote early? I'm just trying to kill baddies. I'm fine lunching Ty this round. We have so little information on him. Someone said that he's playing like a newbie baddie. That makes sense.thellama73 wrote:I'm probably going to be looking @Ty and Zombrella today. Ty feels like he is being led (which may not mean much because of all the civ BTSC) and Zombrella seems too eager to assume a leadership role.
Turnip Head wrote:I for one welcome our new zombie and llama overlords. May their reign be long, and may their cases always be on point.
I am not sure yet.Bass_the_Clever wrote:Why don't you trust Ty?Snowman wrote:I think FZ is legit, and I'm 90% sure Zomberella is too, unless something changed recently. I'm leaning toward Ty.thellama73 wrote:Also, what do people think of FZ? I feel like she's been skulking along under the radar more than she usually does.
What is the current Baddie vs. Civvie count, does anyone know?
But Bloop was going to die anyway, so was she an accidental kill that happened when a baddie targeted someone else, or does one baddie group target the other?
S~V~S who are you not trusting now?
I see everyone implementing. When people say who they trust, we all know it's not because of their stellar baddie hunting skills. So this game is nothing like a regular mafia game. I guess the thing that's making it more balanced for the baddies. is what happened with Bloop last day. I guess that apart from the actual killing, the civvies and baddie powers move around.S~V~S wrote:I am not sure yet.Bass_the_Clever wrote:Why don't you trust Ty?Snowman wrote:I think FZ is legit, and I'm 90% sure Zomberella is too, unless something changed recently. I'm leaning toward Ty.thellama73 wrote:Also, what do people think of FZ? I feel like she's been skulking along under the radar more than she usually does.
What is the current Baddie vs. Civvie count, does anyone know?
But Bloop was going to die anyway, so was she an accidental kill that happened when a baddie targeted someone else, or does one baddie group target the other?
S~V~S who are you not trusting now?
Do you think we should trust Ty?
And FZ, what is your idea? Can you discuss without implementing?
Hmmm.....fine. But what if you both are baddies?Bass_the_Clever wrote:I do trust ty.
Turnip Head wrote:I for one welcome our new zombie and llama overlords. May their reign be long, and may their cases always be on point.
I don't think we're going to find out who she was, since it's a NK.Zomberella12 wrote:Hmmm.....fine. But what if you both are baddies?Bass_the_Clever wrote:I do trust ty.
@FZ - I get your theory about Russ. Plus he seemed a little upset about the game turning into a 'who-defends-who' situation. That would make sense if he was Hunger and didn't have anyone to defend him. (Other than a pact - which I think was suggested by MP on the thread).
I'm still waiting to find out if Bloops was Wasatch or a civvie? That will tell us how many baddies are left.
My thoughts exactly.Zomberella12 wrote:Hmmm.....fine. But what if you both are baddies?Bass_the_Clever wrote:I do trust ty.
I doubt it. While they may rotate next round, if they're working together, chances are only one of them will, and that would leave then other one as a known baddie to the other. At this stage, I think the best option for the two baddies, is to go after one another, especially if they don't have the power of one dying before the other. That way, if they get the other killed, chances of them rotating to a civ role are higher, and they improve the civvies condition (and their own).Snowman wrote:My thoughts exactly.Zomberella12 wrote:Hmmm.....fine. But what if you both are baddies?Bass_the_Clever wrote:I do trust ty.
I wonder if that is why Blooper got NKed? Maybe she rotated to a civ role and then Freemont was vulnerable.FZ. wrote:I doubt it. While they may rotate next round, if they're working together, chances are only one of them will, and that would leave then other one as a known baddie to the other. At this stage, I think the best option for the two baddies, is to go after one another, especially if they don't have the power of one dying before the other. That way, if they get the other killed, chances of them rotating to a civ role are higher, and they improve the civvies condition (and their own).Snowman wrote:My thoughts exactly.Zomberella12 wrote:Hmmm.....fine. But what if you both are baddies?Bass_the_Clever wrote:I do trust ty.
Turnip Head wrote:I for one welcome our new zombie and llama overlords. May their reign be long, and may their cases always be on point.
I have some, but I'm not sure I should discuss it.Long Con wrote:Sounds overthinky to me. Do you have an idea of the pattern of role-rotation, FZ.?
Yea i would bet that their is secrets no one knows about. Also I really don't think the baddie powers are going to the civ roles.FZ. wrote:Hey, I just realized something. llama suggested that maybe Splints took the fall for Bloops because she got that power even if she wasn't a baddie. But Roxy's story says that she was the ninja, so it means that theory is wrong. In that case, I have no idea why Splints died, and there must be more secrets
He trusted me?FZ. wrote:I have some, but I'm not sure I should discuss it.Long Con wrote:Sounds overthinky to me. Do you have an idea of the pattern of role-rotation, FZ.?
Can you tell me why you trusted BR, Splints and Russ up until this day, when it's obvious they were not your BTSC all days?
I don't recall defending LC. Quote, please.FZ. wrote:I see everyone implementing. When people say who they trust, we all know it's not because of their stellar baddie hunting skills. So this game is nothing like a regular mafia game. I guess the thing that's making it more balanced for the baddies. is what happened with Bloop last day. I guess that apart from the actual killing, the civvies and baddie powers move around.S~V~S wrote:I am not sure yet.Bass_the_Clever wrote:Why don't you trust Ty?Snowman wrote:I think FZ is legit, and I'm 90% sure Zomberella is too, unless something changed recently. I'm leaning toward Ty.thellama73 wrote:Also, what do people think of FZ? I feel like she's been skulking along under the radar more than she usually does.
What is the current Baddie vs. Civvie count, does anyone know?
But Bloop was going to die anyway, so was she an accidental kill that happened when a baddie targeted someone else, or does one baddie group target the other?
S~V~S who are you not trusting now?
Do you think we should trust Ty?
And FZ, what is your idea? Can you discuss without implementing?
I wonder if people made pacts before the first rotation started. Like we're not lynching each other until there's one baddie left, or more complicated ones, like giving signs. The way I see it, BR, LC, Russ and Splints were all defending each other last day, but there is no way they all started out together, and I don't get how they could have been four. I think Splints joined BR and LC later on, and I don't know what happened to Russ. The fact they were still protecting him makes me think there was a pact there, because if they stayed in the same family, he had to move, and they couldn't have known what his alignment was without having some sort of code.
Now LC is willing to go after Russ. I wonder what changed.
Hey, yeah! Why is the poll so short. I'm not seeing Llama, Snowman, or Ty. What's going on here? Secret secrets make me crazyRusstifinko wrote:And why is the poll so short?
Turnip Head wrote:I for one welcome our new zombie and llama overlords. May their reign be long, and may their cases always be on point.
I don't think that's relevant any more.FZ. wrote:I have some, but I'm not sure I should discuss it.Long Con wrote:Sounds overthinky to me. Do you have an idea of the pattern of role-rotation, FZ.?
Can you tell me why you trusted BR, Splints and Russ up until this day, when it's obvious they were not your BTSC all days?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
I didn't suggest you were bad. I asked what people thought of you and said you were skulking under the radar a bit. Defensive much?FZ. wrote: And llama, I'm a little disappointed in you for suggesting that a less active FZ is a bad one. Believe me, and ask whoever has played with me, when I'm a baddie, I am just as active and giving it my best as I am, when a civ.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
This post, for example, has me all tingly with worry. What better way to gain civ cred and ensure you're kept around for awhile than to insinuate you understand the game (which nobody else does) and can use it to the civs' advantage?FZ. wrote:I have some, but I'm not sure I should discuss it.Long Con wrote:Sounds overthinky to me. Do you have an idea of the pattern of role-rotation, FZ.?
Can you tell me why you trusted BR, Splints and Russ up until this day, when it's obvious they were not your BTSC all days?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
I made no pact or secret code with my team, because I thought it was made crystal clear that anything like that would be against the rules of infodropping and role outing.FZ. wrote:Russ, LC and BR were the only reason some of us didn't vote for you in previous days. I assumed they were grouped together with you. Now BR says she didn't trust LC for those reasons, but others, Which if I'm reading right, means that BR, you and Splints started out together and LC was not on your group. This makes me think that my evaluation was wrong and LC started out as Epi's team mate and BR was wrong, but I guess it doesn't matter any more
Before I share anything, I want you all to tell me if anyone had some sort of a pact with their team. Not asking you to tell me what it was or who was on it, just if there was anything. I think at this stage, it's crucial to know if people are defending previous buddies or not, if we want the civvies to win
I don't mind you finding me suspicious, but in the beginning, I felt more sure of things because I had my BTSC and I knew we were looking out for one another, and I knew more people who were civvies. I also figured out who was with who (at least most of them). But every day things change, and now it's getting harder. I never said I knew the mechanics, I know what I know from all the rounds, and I'm pretty sure I figured out some of my original BTSC's new alignments, and like Bass which I strongly believe is a civ. There is also another thing I know, but I feel uncomfortable sharing it, because I'm screwing someone when doing so. If you want to find me suspicious for that, go ahead.thellama73 wrote:Thank you for your get well wishes, FZ. You are a true friend. I'm sorry that I am finding you less and less trustworthy.
This post, for example, has me all tingly with worry. What better way to gain civ cred and ensure you're kept around for awhile than to insinuate you understand the game (which nobody else does) and can use it to the civs' advantage?FZ. wrote:I have some, but I'm not sure I should discuss it.Long Con wrote:Sounds overthinky to me. Do you have an idea of the pattern of role-rotation, FZ.?
Can you tell me why you trusted BR, Splints and Russ up until this day, when it's obvious they were not your BTSC all days?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
No, the first rotation didn't do much at all and the second rotation was completely different. New group, new roles, new people. Nothing was the same. I don't see how a pattern could be seen in this. I got a group PM so I don't know what you mean by who moved first.FZ. wrote:I don't mind you finding me suspicious, but in the beginning, I felt more sure of things because I had my BTSC and I knew we were looking out for one another, and I knew more people who were civvies. I also figured out who was with who (at least most of them). But every day things change, and now it's getting harder. I never said I knew the mechanics, I know what I know from all the rounds, and I'm pretty sure I figured out some of my original BTSC's new alignments, and like Bass which I strongly believe is a civ. There is also another thing I know, but I feel uncomfortable sharing it, because I'm screwing someone when doing so. If you want to find me suspicious for that, go ahead.thellama73 wrote:Thank you for your get well wishes, FZ. You are a true friend. I'm sorry that I am finding you less and less trustworthy.
This post, for example, has me all tingly with worry. What better way to gain civ cred and ensure you're kept around for awhile than to insinuate you understand the game (which nobody else does) and can use it to the civs' advantage?FZ. wrote:I have some, but I'm not sure I should discuss it.Long Con wrote:Sounds overthinky to me. Do you have an idea of the pattern of role-rotation, FZ.?
Can you tell me why you trusted BR, Splints and Russ up until this day, when it's obvious they were not your BTSC all days?
I did mean it, when I said that for the baddies, this is the best time to throw your team mate under the buss.
And I don't get the "I've always been a lone llama" when it's obvious you were a Donner and had BTSC with people. Question is, what are you now.
linki: BR, have you been able to see a pattern with how your rotations have gone in terms of who stayed, who moved first and so forth?
This is what I mean. There's no way for us to figure out how the role switches work, but FZ's statements and questions (who moved first?) either indicate she has info on the role changes (which I doubt) or she is pretending to.Black Rock wrote: No, the first rotation didn't do much at all and the second rotation was completely different. New group, new roles, new people. Nothing was the same. I don't see how a pattern could be seen in this. I got a group PM so I don't know what you mean by who moved first.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
What if I had a pact? And Roxy approved it?thellama73 wrote:This is what I mean. There's no way for us to figure out how the role switches work, but FZ's statements and questions (who moved first?) either indicate she has info on the role changes (which I doubt) or she is pretending to.Black Rock wrote: No, the first rotation didn't do much at all and the second rotation was completely different. New group, new roles, new people. Nothing was the same. I don't see how a pattern could be seen in this. I got a group PM so I don't know what you mean by who moved first.
What if you just want us to think you have one?FZ. wrote:What if I had a pact? And Roxy approved it?thellama73 wrote:This is what I mean. There's no way for us to figure out how the role switches work, but FZ's statements and questions (who moved first?) either indicate she has info on the role changes (which I doubt) or she is pretending to.Black Rock wrote: No, the first rotation didn't do much at all and the second rotation was completely different. New group, new roles, new people. Nothing was the same. I don't see how a pattern could be seen in this. I got a group PM so I don't know what you mean by who moved first.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
For crying out loud, I don't want you to think anything. I feel like I'm the only one trying to understand something beyond who is supposedly acting fishy this day, because it means nothing, as evident by your foolish suspicion of me. But maybe you're just doing a good job pretending to want what's best for the civvies. Whatever.thellama73 wrote:What if you just want us to think you have one?FZ. wrote:What if I had a pact? And Roxy approved it?thellama73 wrote:This is what I mean. There's no way for us to figure out how the role switches work, but FZ's statements and questions (who moved first?) either indicate she has info on the role changes (which I doubt) or she is pretending to.Black Rock wrote: No, the first rotation didn't do much at all and the second rotation was completely different. New group, new roles, new people. Nothing was the same. I don't see how a pattern could be seen in this. I got a group PM so I don't know what you mean by who moved first.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
I mean what do you have to lose by sharing information. Who you trust, who you don't (well, we know the answer to the latter), and who was on your team the day before this one (cause I already know who was on it in the beginning). After we share information, then decide if you trust me or not. In that sense, you have nothing to lose. But we have to do it before the day endsthellama73 wrote:What do you mean I have nothing to lose? I cold be night killed tomorrow. I could be lynched the day after that. I have everything to lose, and the longer I go without fnding baddies, the more likely it is that I do lose.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
For instance, you were a Donner. Which one of the Donners was first to leave, which was the second, and so on. Since then, how many died, and in what role (or power if we're allowed to discuss it). If we find a pattern of who moved first and if one of them died, in what role they died, it can help us figure out if there's a pattern we can follow. Of course, assuming we're allowed to do so (and I'm assuming we are because Roxy said we can talk about previous roles).thellama73 wrote:How are the names of my teammates from previous days going to help you, and how is you knowing them going to help me?
As far as I know, all the role changes happen at the same time, so I still don't understand this "who moved first business."FZ. wrote:For instance, you were a Donner. Which one of the Donners was first to leave, which was the second, and so on. Since then, how many died, and in what role (or power if we're allowed to discuss it). If we find a pattern of who moved first and if one of them died, in what role they died, it can help us figure out if there's a pattern we can follow. Of course, assuming we're allowed to do so (and I'm assuming we are because Roxy said we can talk about previous roles).thellama73 wrote:How are the names of my teammates from previous days going to help you, and how is you knowing them going to help me?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.