I feel like solitary suspish emoji's are quite strong statements. I use them as such and I react to them as such. Not tantamount to a vote or a wall or something but certainly stronger than what you've demonstrated to speedchuck.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:47 pmI don't really understand why you're reading a single emoticon as "coming at you gung-ho" or "enthusiasm." I think maybe you are disproportionately reading into it. It's barely a "suspicion" at all -- yes, I used the suspish emoticon, but.. well I don't want to get into an extended discussion of the contextual implications of emoji semantics, but I'm not sure how you're figuring that I was "coming at you gung-ho" based on a single use of an emoticon and no other basis. I posed the original question to speedchuck, and meanwhile was left to wonder why you copied his list.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:34 pmFair enough but you came at me relatively gung-ho and you are not coming at him with anything that looks like force to me. That to me looks like you weren't genuine about being suspect of me for the list but just trying to frame a case against me for the purpose of looking like you're trying.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:29 pmIt was phrased differently. Your question came right after I had realized it was speed's list and I literally said the words "my point still stands" and asked speed about it. After that discussion, Jay asked whether that meant I suspected speed and not you, and I responded that the original point applied to speedchuck but I might also suspect you for another reason.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:23 pmSo when I asked the question the reply is "are you even reading the thread" but when he asks it you provide this level of insight? Interesting.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:22 pmSure, but I have already discussed this with speedchuck and more or less resolved the matter. Meanwhile my question about Mac copying the list still stands.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:17 pmDoes this mean then that your suspicion on this matter is for speedchuck and not for MacDougall?
I am not sure how I feel about either of them at the moment.
If that's the case though, the question would be why you didn't flip your suspicion to speedchuck with the same level of enthusiasm.
Please show me where I demonstrated an enthusiastic suspicion of you.
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True story:
In the only other DFaraday Speed Game, I got lynched Day 1 for the first time ever, because I fell asleep at my desk and didn't save myself.
They don't care about the roof.
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LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:20 pm I'm not seeing baddie LA. I also feel like there was quite the bandwagon going on earlier against her, although it seems to have moved off.
I'm going to vote Epi for now. I'm not feeling great and may fall asleep on the keyboard, so want to be sure to not forget to vote. He's really the only one I'm noticing who is playing their baddie game.
If I get lynched, lynch the people who voted for me and fell asleep.
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I like nutella's tone right now, and I don't want to lynch Lorab D1. Nothing Kylemii has done has pinged me for hours, and I'm mafia fatigued right now.
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I don't understand the purpose of this question. Is it cus I've previously been really amped up for ties? I've grown up. New year, new me.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:43 pm @Kylemii Thoughts on ties in this game? (ignoring that you're one of the players up for the 'tie')
I still like close votes that give the mafia a potential chance to save, I think it puts them in a psychological shit zone where they have to make a decision on whether to dunk their teammate or save them, and it often ends up being reflected in their posts.
I guess technically in this game ties are like 3% better than usual because we have at least one civvie role that can break ties.
In terms of this actual literal situation, I don't like this one. Not only because I'm part of it but because I don't think Epignosis is an incredible lynch candidate.
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speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:49 pmI'm not sure I can. My gut is all queasy right now. Would you rather lynch Epi?
You and Hazelnut are the only two I know anything about.
I can't read Epi for shit anyways unless I dedicate at least 2 in game cycles to specifically him.
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We must all care for the roof.
I'm not yay on an Epig or Kyle lynch really. Sue me etc.
I guess I only feel good good about Speed, which is scary because magical whip reasons so it doesn't even feel good, but he thought the same thing as me more than once and that felt good so hi.
I'm not yay on an Epig or Kyle lynch really. Sue me etc.
I guess I only feel good good about Speed, which is scary because magical whip reasons so it doesn't even feel good, but he thought the same thing as me more than once and that felt good so hi.
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Who IS an incredible lynch candidate?Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:52 pmI don't understand the purpose of this question. Is it cus I've previously been really amped up for ties? I've grown up. New year, new me.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:43 pm @Kylemii Thoughts on ties in this game? (ignoring that you're one of the players up for the 'tie')
I still like close votes that give the mafia a potential chance to save, I think it puts them in a psychological shit zone where they have to make a decision on whether to dunk their teammate or save them, and it often ends up being reflected in their posts.
I guess technically in this game ties are like 3% better than usual because we have at least one civvie role that can break ties.
In terms of this actual literal situation, I don't like this one. Not only because I'm part of it but because I don't think Epignosis is an incredible lynch candidate.
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I mean, I think this is the first time I've seen him explain himself in detail. Usually it's more intuition based but stated as facts which has been frustrating in other games (again, not invalidating playstyle, just my memory of it).JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:50 pm How do y'all feel about the three Syndicate veteran women, Daisy aside, soul reading Epignosis as evil?
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Fuck it lets kill Kyle.
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I think MacDoug is probably town?
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My strongest townreads are on Mac and Wilgy. That's a clear sign that I need to step away from the game for a while.
I'll try to drop back in before lynch.
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And I wanted to be your town buddy. =(speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:56 pm My strongest townreads are on Mac and Wilgy. That's a clear sign that I need to step away from the game for a while.
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Because I'm bad at reading you.
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Huh. I... I guess I'll take your word for it.
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Neither Epig or Kyle are voting each other - which is peculiar kind of. I guess they will if things stay the same?
I'll either let my vote stay or switch ro LoRab cause idfk. And I need to sleep very soon.
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My FZ read leans civilian, and I am influenced by the 2015 GOC when I was faced with a crapload of errant suspicion and she was one of the few contrary voices who saw the civilian in me. There's at least some parallel here.
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I'm going to lodge a veto request of the Epignosis lynch on the following grounds;
a) The primary case against him as been made by JJJ who is the most followable player in the game
b) I don't agree with his arguments
c) If JJJ is Mafia then losing Epignosis's tendency to keep him accountable by revelling in being contrarian feels tantamount to just losing the game
a) The primary case against him as been made by JJJ who is the most followable player in the game
b) I don't agree with his arguments
c) If JJJ is Mafia then losing Epignosis's tendency to keep him accountable by revelling in being contrarian feels tantamount to just losing the game
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Oh, and JJJ and Nut are mutually defending each other. Don't know if that information will ever be relevant. Just an observation.
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I had your name in that post, but then deleted it.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:57 pmAnd I wanted to be your town buddy. =(speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:56 pm My strongest townreads are on Mac and Wilgy. That's a clear sign that I need to step away from the game for a while.
I'll try to drop back in before lynch.
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To me, the comment she made proves that she was actually looking for help. I don't feel like she would have used that word if she was fabricating her play.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:58 pmHuh. I... I guess I'll take your word for it.
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I am considering alternatives. I don't care for many of them. I'm not lynching Kyle. What do you recommend?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:00 pm I'm going to lodge a veto request of the Epignosis lynch on the following grounds;
a) The primary case against him as been made by JJJ who is the most followable player in the game
b) I don't agree with his arguments
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Note: I did say this.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:43 pm I have a fairly compelling reason for thinking she is town but it's probably one of those things that is only compelling to me. I don't want to target paint on her if I am wrong and it is genuinely compelling though...
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I voted LoRab. I don't have any other reason than the posts sounds meh to me. Hi, LoRab, write an angry letter to me.
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I agree with this. Let's lynch Dizzy.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:00 pm I'm going to lodge a veto request of the Epignosis lynch on the following grounds;
a) The primary case against him as been made by JJJ who is the most followable player in the game
b) I don't agree with his arguments
c) If JJJ is Mafia then losing Epignosis's tendency to keep him accountable by revelling in being contrarian feels tantamount to just losing the game
Don't worry about it m8. I've come to the conclusion my brain works in ways that I can't describe and others won't understand. I see lines connecting things where there is nothing but dirt and blood and the occasional baby dolphin gasping for air as you hug it.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:01 pmI don't understand.
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If these Epignosis and Kyle wagons hold, which do you think should be lynched?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:02 pm I voted LoRab. I don't have any other reason than the posts sounds meh to me. Hi, LoRab, write an angry letter to me.
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honestly I'd almost rather go for a low poster or something
I dont feel like any of the votes on me could have been opportunistic votes to save a mafia Epignosis except for maybe Wilgy. I'm afraid of this being civ/civ just based on ambiance.
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I'm off to bed. Good night and good luck. <3
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Well my rainbow list suggests that aside from Nutella and Kyle the next most viable candidates are you and Sloonei. I would be okay with lynching a group 3 candidate but none of them are even red through ping or gut.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:01 pmI am considering alternatives. I don't care for many of them. I'm not lynching Kyle. What do you recommend?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:00 pm I'm going to lodge a veto request of the Epignosis lynch on the following grounds;
a) The primary case against him as been made by JJJ who is the most followable player in the game
b) I don't agree with his arguments
c) If JJJ is Mafia then losing Epignosis's tendency to keep him accountable by revelling in being contrarian feels tantamount to just losing the game
Shall we analyse Sloonei for a change?
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I agree. No one is leaping at the tie I made.
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Probably didn't want to think about that, but I'd say Epig.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:03 pmIf these Epignosis and Kyle wagons hold, which do you think should be lynched?
Also, do you have a read on me?
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I am voting for Epi for reasons that I have reached on my own. Granted, these reasons are related to the JJJ stuff, but I drew my own conclusions, I'm not just following JJJ. I have not discounted the possibility that JJJ is bad. If Epi dies and flips town, I promise I will scrutinize JJJ with every fiber of my scrutinizin'.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:00 pm I'm going to lodge a veto request of the Epignosis lynch on the following grounds;
a) The primary case against him as been made by JJJ who is the most followable player in the game
b) I don't agree with his arguments
c) If JJJ is Mafia then losing Epignosis's tendency to keep him accountable by revelling in being contrarian feels tantamount to just losing the game
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I'm open to hearing about your Sloonei suspicions.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:04 pm Well my rainbow list suggests that aside from Nutella and Kyle the next most viable candidates are you and Sloonei. I would be okay with lynching a group 3 candidate but none of them are even red through ping or gut.
Shall we analyse Sloonei for a change?
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Why Dizzy?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:02 pmI agree with this. Let's lynch Dizzy.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:00 pm I'm going to lodge a veto request of the Epignosis lynch on the following grounds;
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Why not?Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:06 pmWhy Dizzy?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:02 pmI agree with this. Let's lynch Dizzy.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:00 pm I'm going to lodge a veto request of the Epignosis lynch on the following grounds;
a) The primary case against him as been made by JJJ who is the most followable player in the game
b) I don't agree with his arguments
c) If JJJ is Mafia then losing Epignosis's tendency to keep him accountable by revelling in being contrarian feels tantamount to just losing the game
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This is both true and untrue. Suck it, Law of Excluded Middle.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:00 pm Oh, and JJJ and Nut are mutually defending each other. Don't know if that information will ever be relevant. Just an observation.
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GTH civilian. Your analytic efforts appear authentic at face value, and I don't think you needed to make them given the conditions of the thread if you're mafia.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:05 pmProbably didn't want to think about that, but I'd say Epig.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:03 pmIf these Epignosis and Kyle wagons hold, which do you think should be lynched?
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"Now let's all agree to never be creative again."
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First major post scores civ points for disagreeing with Jimmy to simply bring down a civ read to null.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:58 pmHe could have conceived of the question pre-game. Null read for me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:34 pmspeedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:24 pm If I may make an observation, regarding the setup:
Tevye can get BTSC with his daughters. In doing so, he can confirm them town to himself. So that's neat.
However, if he doesn't search for them, the town gains a cop in the match-maker. Match-maker can search for BTSC, which would (if Tevye doesn't submit actions) only be held by the mafia.
We trade off a BTSC-finder and a town searcher/btsc/lover thing for a cop. Does anyone think this is a good idea?
Game with infodumping and role-claiming: cop > probabilistic/interval civilian BTSC inclusive of four
Game without infordumping and role-claiming (like this one):
I'm going to say the cop is slightly weaker in this case. Without reveals, civilian BTSC becomes one of the strongest available roles, because it is easier to read -- it involves two people simultaneously vouching for each other. A cop can only promote reads him or herself, and it might not be as easy for others to figure out that there is an information basis behind those reads.
It's debatable though. speedchuck is a civilian for discovering that this question is worth asking.
I'd probably prefer civ BTSC to an unclaimable cop thing.
Potential scum motivation - Speedchuck is teammate and it places distance. Speedchuck is civ and it benefits scum Sloonei to keep doubt on speedchuck's alignment in the general consensus.
Reads far more like he is just trying to be a voice of reason.
Not seeing this as a mafia post.
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Nut has changed though. She's being all sassy. I like it.
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Not seeing Sloonei's barrage of one word posts as Mafia either.
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Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:08 pm Nut has changed though. She's being all sassy. I like it.
Night for real.
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You're voting for Wilgy. Do you want to lynch either FZ or LoRab now?Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:50 pm True story:
In the only other DFaraday Speed Game, I got lynched Day 1 for the first time ever, because I fell asleep at my desk and didn't save myself.
LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:20 pm I'm not seeing baddie LA. I also feel like there was quite the bandwagon going on earlier against her, although it seems to have moved off.
I'm going to vote Epi for now. I'm not feeling great and may fall asleep on the keyboard, so want to be sure to not forget to vote. He's really the only one I'm noticing who is playing their baddie game.If I get lynched, lynch the people who voted for me and fell asleep.
They don't care about the roof.
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So.... why do people think Kyle is bad?
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Wilgy, why are all your ideas so bad?
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[mention]LoRab[/mention], could you describe what you perceive Epi's baddie game to look like at least briefly?
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