So basically, you admit you're a liar?speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:51 pmFor you to be telling the truth, Kara would have to be targeted by a timmer-aimed redirect which would then target me and send me to timmer to see you!Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:47 pmI have no idea how.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:46 pmSo? That information strengthens my argument.Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:43 pmand juliets also claimed being redirected.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:40 pmSpeed is saying his floobuddy (who is Kara because she already said so) dirticrawler switched herself with Speed.Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:37 pmdiricrawl cannot switch actions directed at one person to another, diricrawl can only switch actions directed at the owner to another. speedchuck has maintained the first, which is a mechanical impossibility.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:36 pm
I don't get it. Please explain while I sit with my legs crossed and listen nice a nice boy.
he also says his floo powder buddy is the reason for this, who can only be a Slytherin since they last won the house cup.
Therefore, someone who have had to misdirect Kara and him for his info to be wrong.
He’s still bad but you misunderstood.
And as we can see, scum already used their redirect on Juliets.
There is no redirect for me. A diricawl wouldn't work unless LC or Timmer used it on each other possibly somehow.
There is no world in which what I saw meshes with your claim.
@juliets Nothing has changed. Just extra layers of confusing nonsense required for me to believe Quin
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I admit that our claims are incompatible, if that's what you are saying. Thus I call YOU a liar.
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No no, I agree that he's definitely not a clear civ, but the case against him is far less interesting than long cons save of owner, or the discrepancies in the night actions, or poutanko claiming cop and pointing a finger at speed.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:39 pmI can only presume that you haven't bothered actually reading the thread then.
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Scum using a diricrawl between timmer and LC makes sense in theory. But then we’d need to answer how LC ended up dead, I think.
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Because I like Sloonei. The whole point was to protect timmer.
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speedchuck guessed the elder wand, which is effectively an unbeatable wand. Whoever has it could be responsible for one of the night kills.
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Or Quin targeted LC with something other than a patronus and didn't target Sloonei with shit
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It does not.
Because it means whatever killed LC was aiming for Timmer.
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I don't see anything in kara's posts that would suggest he suspected speedchuck and be motivated to use a diricrawl on him. Surely he'd have used it on Owner or Glorfiets who he suspected in his ISO.
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Also entirely plausible that speedchuck and kara are both full of poop and there is no ??? -- this is all made up CARP
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The only way Quin's story and mine could work together with LC diricrawling timmer is if Long Con killed Epi and Epi responded with a Hippogrif.
Assuming Hippogrifs are not redirectable, which IDK
Still super unlikely. Why would Epi use it tonight? It's one-shot.
Occam says Quin is lying (Or I am, but this is all for after I flip town anyway)
Assuming Hippogrifs are not redirectable, which IDK
Still super unlikely. Why would Epi use it tonight? It's one-shot.
Occam says Quin is lying (Or I am, but this is all for after I flip town anyway)
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I could reveal who it is.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:09 pm Also entirely plausible that speedchuck and kara are both full of poop and there is no ??? -- this is all made up CARP
Is that an EGS reference?
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Go on, reveal that you have a town read on DH. Make all the fun even more fun.
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What's the motivation to use a Diricawl on scum?
(Not arguing, Kara can explain their own motives. Just curious)
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Who are you talking to?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:11 pm Go on, reveal that you have a town read on DH. Make all the fun even more fun.
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Redirecting night kills off of yourself onto someone you suspect.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:11 pmWhat's the motivation to use a Diricawl on scum?
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I wouldn't do it.Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:12 pmRedirecting night kills off of yourself onto someone you suspect.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:11 pmWhat's the motivation to use a Diricawl on scum?
(Not arguing, Kara can explain their own motives. Just curious)
Not with the vig kills that have been on point this game.
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One easy question to ask is "do we believe that karavalenge used a floo powder to talk to speedchuck in BTSC?"
Obviously this is not necessary if they're both mafia members. We could WIFOM all day about it, but I am inclined to believe it at face value. I think that'd reflect well on kara and mean nothing for speedchuck.
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and failed to read the post accurately lol
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I don't like this much. Why did kara need to know?karavalenge wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:36 pm Yeah, there's not any real reason to hide it since Speed brought it up.
I floo'd him today to see who the "other" person was he referred to who interacted with Long Con and he complied and told me.
In return I let him know that my Night 3 action was to Diricawl with him, which does not appear to have affected anything.
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...so? there's more than one diricawl out thereQuin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:43 pmand juliets also claimed being redirected.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:40 pmSpeed is saying his floobuddy (who is Kara because she already said so) dirticrawler switched herself with Speed.Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:37 pmdiricrawl cannot switch actions directed at one person to another, diricrawl can only switch actions directed at the owner to another. speedchuck has maintained the first, which is a mechanical impossibility.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:36 pmI don't get it. Please explain while I sit with my legs crossed and listen nice a nice boy.
he also says his floo powder buddy is the reason for this, who can only be a Slytherin since they last won the house cup.
Therefore, someone who have had to misdirect Kara and him for his info to be wrong.
He’s still bad but you misunderstood.
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I do. Why’s speedchuck bad? What do you think happened last night?
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Hella ballsy of the two of them to draw themselves together like this if so.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:09 pm Also entirely plausible that speedchuck and kara are both full of poop and there is no ??? -- this is all made up CARP
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For kara to be bad with this mind frame, can speedchuck also be bad?Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:20 pmI don't like this much. Why did kara need to know?karavalenge wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:36 pm Yeah, there's not any real reason to hide it since Speed brought it up.
I floo'd him today to see who the "other" person was he referred to who interacted with Long Con and he complied and told me.
In return I let him know that my Night 3 action was to Diricawl with him, which does not appear to have affected anything.
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If you know this as a fact then you've just confirmed I could have been redirected from timmer to LC. Or Sloonei to LC I guess, but I doubt it.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:20 pm...so? there's more than one diricawl out thereQuin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:43 pmand juliets also claimed being redirected.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:40 pmSpeed is saying his floobuddy (who is Kara because she already said so) dirticrawler switched herself with Speed.Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:37 pmdiricrawl cannot switch actions directed at one person to another, diricrawl can only switch actions directed at the owner to another. speedchuck has maintained the first, which is a mechanical impossibility.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:36 pmI don't get it. Please explain while I sit with my legs crossed and listen nice a nice boy.
he also says his floo powder buddy is the reason for this, who can only be a Slytherin since they last won the house cup.
Therefore, someone who have had to misdirect Kara and him for his info to be wrong.
He’s still bad but you misunderstood.
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I don't think so.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:22 pmFor kara to be bad with this mind frame, can speedchuck also be bad?Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:20 pmI don't like this much. Why did kara need to know?karavalenge wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:36 pm Yeah, there's not any real reason to hide it since Speed brought it up.
I floo'd him today to see who the "other" person was he referred to who interacted with Long Con and he complied and told me.
In return I let him know that my Night 3 action was to Diricawl with him, which does not appear to have affected anything.
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23% of me thinks this is all horseshit between teammates meant to sow extreme confusion in a game otherwise cruising toward a civilian victory.
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I am just barely sort of following all of this but I think quin is probably badspeedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:51 pmFor you to be telling the truth, Kara would have to be targeted by a timmer-aimed redirect which would then target me and send me to timmer to see you!Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:47 pmI have no idea how.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:46 pmSo? That information strengthens my argument.Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:43 pmand juliets also claimed being redirected.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:40 pmSpeed is saying his floobuddy (who is Kara because she already said so) dirticrawler switched herself with Speed.Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:37 pmdiricrawl cannot switch actions directed at one person to another, diricrawl can only switch actions directed at the owner to another. speedchuck has maintained the first, which is a mechanical impossibility.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:36 pm
I don't get it. Please explain while I sit with my legs crossed and listen nice a nice boy.
he also says his floo powder buddy is the reason for this, who can only be a Slytherin since they last won the house cup.
Therefore, someone who have had to misdirect Kara and him for his info to be wrong.
He’s still bad but you misunderstood.
And as we can see, scum already used their redirect on Juliets.
There is no redirect for me. A diricawl wouldn't work unless LC or Timmer used it on each other possibly somehow.
There is no world in which what I saw meshes with your claim.
@juliets Nothing has changed. Just extra layers of confusing nonsense required for me to believe Quin
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speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:52 pmThat's the point. There aren't enough redirections.
Assume you were telling the truth. You were not redirected, because you're protected from Imperius.
Therefore, for me to see you, my action had to be redirected to YOUR target.
There aren't enough redirects for that, and the path would be hopelessly convoluted if there were.
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i was supposed to be confirmed town today
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sounds completely suicidal but okJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:23 pm 23% of me thinks this is all horseshit between teammates meant to sow extreme confusion in a game otherwise cruising toward a civilian victory.
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god damn it why are too many things entirely plausibleJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:09 pm Also entirely plausible that speedchuck and kara are both full of poop and there is no ??? -- this is all made up CARP
too many redirects make nutella a confused pigeon
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I've decided I straight up don't believe speedchuck watched Long Con last night. No convoluted bullshit with multiple diricrawls and redirections.
He lied about his night action. That's it.
He lied about his night action. That's it.
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badJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:26 pmgun to your head immediately:
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I wondered this tooQuin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:20 pmI don't like this much. Why did kara need to know?karavalenge wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:36 pm Yeah, there's not any real reason to hide it since Speed brought it up.
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There we go. We can drop the maybes and get right to the heart of the matter. I say you lied. You say I lied. That's what it boils down to.
But when I flip town, it's gonna poop right in your bed. To replace what you cleaned up. So you'd better get some corn flakes to go with it.
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I can't explain why speedchuck found me on Long Con, since timmer has rejected the only possibility I can understand from the rules. I am not lying, and therefore speedchuck is.
We still don't know who this ??? person is. speedchuck seemed happy to share that with kara, but for all we know it could have been a lie and kara's now looking at a night kill tonight to tie up that loose end.
We still don't know who this ??? person is. speedchuck seemed happy to share that with kara, but for all we know it could have been a lie and kara's now looking at a night kill tonight to tie up that loose end.
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no thanksJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:29 pmPlease build me a full mafia team compatible with these reads.
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4
This really would help me a great deal. I don't mean to be a bossy ass. Please humor me.
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4
I can't do the in-depth kind of stuff you need right now. I'm starting a new journal article and writing my masters application today.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:32 pmThis really would help me a great deal. I don't mean to be a bossy ass. Please humor me.
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4
........why not
you and sloonei are bad
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4
lolQuin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:34 pmI can't do the in-depth kind of stuff you need right now. I'm starting a new journal article and writing my masters application today.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:32 pmThis really would help me a great deal. I don't mean to be a bossy ass. Please humor me.
If you want a GTH mafia team:
nova
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speedchuck
Colin
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