Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Michelle]

Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.
Sloonei i don't understand your question at all. Can you answer it first?

@Sloonei

I'm just asking what kind of mafia player you are. I believe this is our first time playing together (I hosted you in Simpsons, but did not follow that game super closely), so I'm just looking to understand what you're trying to do in this game right now, what sort of things you're looking for, etc.

OK that makes more sense, i thought you were telling me to do something.
I'm trying to catch up but i keep getting distracted by everything. I gave up on reading tutuu because i'm too lazy. When i read i skip memes and i look for people's thought process and trying to figure out how are they approaching the game. Hoping to vote out atleast 1 mafia this game.

@cat who were you in Simpsons?

I was Lisa Simpson. I also played in 8 ball mafia and The Christmas game.

Hi sis

[tutuu]

@Long Con who is mafia?

@Jackofhearts2005 who is mafia?

@MartinGG99 who is mafia?

[Hyena]

Do we believe Hyena’s claim?

No really. It's hard to prove that Hyena actually has this ability because we can't confirm with the dead.

We can confirm with the living

Ah, you're right. I misread the claim and thought it was Hynena who speaks to the dead.

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[Hyena]

Hi, @Michelle. It feels like we're on at different hours this game.

I wanted to ask you about Sloonei, especially in relation to your suggestion about not yeeting Ladd in the mash we played in last week. Is Sloonei in that never-yeet D1 tier for you?

[cat]

Michelle town.

One read down.

Due to that spoiler thing a few posts up?

Just generally saying things wolf Michelle doesn’t say imo. Shiny in a Michelle way. Like bronze.

I'll steal it.

Yep, Falcon is too stubborn to be scum. Take that with a grain of salt.

Good news, i feel i collected some town reads

Refusing to play the game is a common strat here. He gave reads anyway so it's not like he's that stubborn. GTH mafia. No balls.

My issue with Nutella here is that I've had basically no content as is normal for me, and yet somehow she's giving a pass to other posters with similar reps (Nanook, Wilgy, et al) and apparently can't formulate any better reads on people with far more content. I am her *only* wolf read, and all I've done is shitpost as usual. My one bit of content, at a stretch, is a mild and brief back and forth with falcon where I felt he was being hedgey and forcing a push on me (and I stand by that, though I don't know it's AI for him) and that's apaprently enough to have her decide I am not only a wolf but her *only* wolf so far.

It's an opportunistic nudge and she's not disguising it well enough.

Fun post. I like it.

I've largely vibed with both sloonei and tutuu who are strong town leader types and somehow the rest of the thread is against me, it's weird

Towncore gotta take charge

Spoiler: show

Every time I see Made post I just been like look at dat wolf. There is very little by way of solving. He hasn't had any spicy pushes that I saw. He keeps doing wolfy popins where he just comments half the time on NAI concerns then skeets off back to wolf chat.

Sounds more like low-effort than scum to me.

Yeah I'm not entirely discounting the possibility alison is scum playing a tricksy tactic, but I think it's at least equally and probably a good bit more plausible that she's really 3p. Like occam's razor is she really has that role, rather than cleverly coming up with it as a gambit lol

I'm gonna throw a curveball and say Alison is town. Thoughts?

Why would town fake their position? And subsequently, forget?

This thought seems unrealistic. I hope i'm being played and this is a fake thought for sarcasm.

We have almost 24 hours to go and I have no intention about getting more active...but based on my limited participation I am not feeling it on Hyena and would oppose that chop. Made is...meh. If things are the same as they are now with an hour to EoD I would start pushing Nutella probably, just to see if the Made push is serious, then go with whichever seemed bedt choice to push past Hyena.

After the lack of response from Made to my post + the vote Made made on me, I wanna pursue him. I haven't really gone looking for anyone else to pursue yet though. Starting to do that right now with people I haven't really looked at yet, like MR.

So you dismiss mine, Syn, and Made's pushes on you as OMGUS then you do this? I get the feeling you care more about surviving than solving the game. Like, Made is a really convenient push for you at this point.

Oh, I'm not doing any solving right now, lol. Guilty as charged. I'm just trying to get people to spill their guts out D1 and do stuff/react to stuff so that I have more interactions to read later on.

Hyena here and the recent posts is trying to be as transparent as possible to look towny, either too obvious of a wolf or a clumsy townie, something similar to what Michelle did when she forgot who was in the game. It's not wolfy, but they get no townpoints for it either.

Spoiler: show

@dyachei

Alison - claimed 3p, also unkillable and immune to yeeting after day 1 since she can redirect all night actions and all votes towards the person she made a contract with. so putting her aside

tutuu
Michelle - her reactions to getting pushed and a bunch of other stuff feel pretty towny
nutella - i dont care about her post count and i heavily dislike the fact that she's using the "im so bad as wolf i can barely post or do anything, my scum game is milesssss behind my towngame" thing as a defense, i think that if your scum game is lagging behind your towngame then you should be putting alot of effort to equalize the difference, instead of weaponizing the difference and using it to your advantage, thats lowkey unsportsmanlike imo, even if shes only stating the truth. its kind of like being proud that you never bus as scum and wanting to get towncleared upon being on a wolf wagon (like TSM mikey does) which unfairly skews the scale to favor your town winrate and lowers your scum winrate, or like when you only do heavy AtE as town and dont do it as wolf and u get free townreads and u dont realize that its not rly fair, sort of like a trust tell. even tho ur job as town is to be truthful in my opinion some truths are best not spoken for the sake of a sportsmanlike competitive game @nutella . im sorry i just - this is my opinion, i dont want to yell at you or scold you and i love you very much nutella and i think you know it, i just cant not share my opinion on how our mafia gameplay on the syndicate can be improved, thats all!

ANYWAY, for my actual read on her that i think is valid and sportsmanlike (as in, its fakable if she was wolf) - i like her sassy and erratic responses to multiple posts, they are too much for me to pinpoint all but there are there in both of our ISOs. i think that shes heavily invested in the game and she had some textbook towny posts - one of them was recent, somebody was townreading her and she pointed out how scummy that person is for townreading her, which is a towntell when you're in nutella's situation (receiving scumreads from multiple places). the biggest part is her pushes really, they just make sense
MacDougall - i think from the two scum games ive seen from him last year he was really trolly and erratic, i think as town he gets more serious and his reads get more deep. i think if he was mafia or 3p here he played in a way that would get him night killed due to being perceived as a threat from one of the scum teams, which is not good for him if he's scum. optimal scum play in this game is to be towny but not that towny imo. so i think he's town
Sloonei - exact same read as mac, except without the trolly and erratic part. i can add that ive seen him be scum twice, i have caught him both times (its not only nutella who rekt sloonei ) and ive seen him be town once in my game and the contrast is pretty stark imo. he's just clearly town here imo
Syn - echoing the already stated reads on him, nobody expects much from him so if he is mafia here he can post three times less and nobody would push him. the fact that he's putting way more effort than the average effort put out by players in this threat makes him town in my eyes

112 - i find all of her posts extremely logical and i can follow them. any reasons to doubt her is that she isnt playing in a way that would make her nightkilled by scum early on imo, so she isnt showing the "multiball towntell" in my eyes, and additionallyshe has fooled me before as mafia
Timsup2nothin - i dont wanna repeat it, i laid it out already in my iso. its about the way he interacted with sloonei about the perceived tmi slip about multiball
Thunal33 - pretty similar to 112, i nod my head as i read her posts, they make sense and are good, but she is not getting nightkilled and could be a solving mafia
DrWilgy - unfortunately little explanation for this. this is simply my gut. i think he's being genuine. i liked the "maybe yall can listen to me for once" post
Marmot - again cant explain much. gut. ive played a bunch of games with marmot. perhaps im starting to get familiar. he feels more similar to bike mafia compared to the times i saw him scum. maybe, i think.

MartinGG99 - i liked his posts where he was saying "u guys can kill me at any time". but otherwise low post count, could be scum
falcon45ca - i liked some of his assertive tone, but otherwise low post count, hard to read, could be scum, the assertive tone thingy could be his personality
cat - i liked his sass, i disliked one logical post of his (because it was logical), low post count
JackofHearts2005 - i have little to no experience with jack; low post count
dyachei - recently joined, dont have much to read them off of. previous owner was 0 poster
Dyslexicon - low post count, i have seen him be like this as town a lot
TurnipHead - 0 poster
Long Con - surprised he has 80, i dont remember most of his posts, shows how spammy this game is. just checked post coutns nutella has 330 posts what the actual fuck. but yeah. long con notoriously hard to read / impossible
TonyStarkPrime - low post count, gut says he's scum but last game i wrongly tunneled him

Master Radishes - sheeping nutella, i liked her idea that if MR is logical and cooperative that could mean he's mafia
Made - i echo someone's read that made jumping around like a happy little fairy between posts could mean he's mafia. i dont remember his pushes, i just remember him being chatty and friendly
Kylemii - my gut pinged me super hard, cant explain
JustPlayingitcool - is playing the same way he played in radiohead. claims that this is his town meta, thats possible, but then how does one read him?
Hyena - i think he started kinda flailing, dont wanna repeat the things ive already stated about why i sr him, there are there in my iso
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - doesnt seem that relaxed or easygoing, according to mac that's nook's towntell and nook isn't expressing it here fmpov, also nook is super engaged as town at least often times, and is often in the top posters and i think as town is more engaged and has more reads than this

Very handy, thank you.

[Michelle]

@dyachei

Alison - claimed 3p, also unkillable and immune to yeeting after day 1 since she can redirect all night actions and all votes towards the person she made a contract with. so putting her aside

tutuu
Michelle - her reactions to getting pushed and a bunch of other stuff feel pretty towny

Spoiler: show

nutella - i dont care about her post count and i heavily dislike the fact that she's using the "im so bad as wolf i can barely post or do anything, my scum game is milesssss behind my towngame" thing as a defense, i think that if your scum game is lagging behind your towngame then you should be putting alot of effort to equalize the difference, instead of weaponizing the difference and using it to your advantage, thats lowkey unsportsmanlike imo, even if shes only stating the truth. its kind of like being proud that you never bus as scum and wanting to get towncleared upon being on a wolf wagon (like TSM mikey does) which unfairly skews the scale to favor your town winrate and lowers your scum winrate, or like when you only do heavy AtE as town and dont do it as wolf and u get free townreads and u dont realize that its not rly fair, sort of like a trust tell. even tho ur job as town is to be truthful in my opinion some truths are best not spoken for the sake of a sportsmanlike competitive game @nutella . im sorry i just - this is my opinion, i dont want to yell at you or scold you and i love you very much nutella and i think you know it, i just cant not share my opinion on how our mafia gameplay on the syndicate can be improved, thats all!

ANYWAY, for my actual read on her that i think is valid and sportsmanlike (as in, its fakable if she was wolf) - i like her sassy and erratic responses to multiple posts, they are too much for me to pinpoint all but there are there in both of our ISOs. i think that shes heavily invested in the game and she had some textbook towny posts - one of them was recent, somebody was townreading her and she pointed out how scummy that person is for townreading her, which is a towntell when you're in nutella's situation (receiving scumreads from multiple places). the biggest part is her pushes really, they just make sense
MacDougall - i think from the two scum games ive seen from him last year he was really trolly and erratic, i think as town he gets more serious and his reads get more deep. i think if he was mafia or 3p here he played in a way that would get him night killed due to being perceived as a threat from one of the scum teams, which is not good for him if he's scum. optimal scum play in this game is to be towny but not that towny imo. so i think he's town
Sloonei - exact same read as mac, except without the trolly and erratic part. i can add that ive seen him be scum twice, i have caught him both times (its not only nutella who rekt sloonei ) and ive seen him be town once in my game and the contrast is pretty stark imo. he's just clearly town here imo
Syn - echoing the already stated reads on him, nobody expects much from him so if he is mafia here he can post three times less and nobody would push him. the fact that he's putting way more effort than the average effort put out by players in this threat makes him town in my eyes

112 - i find all of her posts extremely logical and i can follow them. any reasons to doubt her is that she isnt playing in a way that would make her nightkilled by scum early on imo, so she isnt showing the "multiball towntell" in my eyes, and additionallyshe has fooled me before as mafia
Timsup2nothin - i dont wanna repeat it, i laid it out already in my iso. its about the way he interacted with sloonei about the perceived tmi slip about multiball
Thunal33 - pretty similar to 112, i nod my head as i read her posts, they make sense and are good, but she is not getting nightkilled and could be a solving mafia
DrWilgy - unfortunately little explanation for this. this is simply my gut. i think he's being genuine. i liked the "maybe yall can listen to me for once" post
Marmot - again cant explain much. gut. ive played a bunch of games with marmot. perhaps im starting to get familiar. he feels more similar to bike mafia compared to the times i saw him scum. maybe, i think.

MartinGG99 - i liked his posts where he was saying "u guys can kill me at any time". but otherwise low post count, could be scum
falcon45ca - i liked some of his assertive tone, but otherwise low post count, hard to read, could be scum, the assertive tone thingy could be his personality
cat - i liked his sass, i disliked one logical post of his (because it was logical), low post count
JackofHearts2005 - i have little to no experience with jack; low post count
dyachei - recently joined, dont have much to read them off of. previous owner was 0 poster
Dyslexicon - low post count, i have seen him be like this as town a lot
TurnipHead - 0 poster
Long Con - surprised he has 80, i dont remember most of his posts, shows how spammy this game is. just checked post coutns nutella has 330 posts what the actual fuck. but yeah. long con notoriously hard to read / impossible
TonyStarkPrime - low post count, gut says he's scum but last game i wrongly tunneled him

Master Radishes - sheeping nutella, i liked her idea that if MR is logical and cooperative that could mean he's mafia
Made - i echo someone's read that made jumping around like a happy little fairy between posts could mean he's mafia. i dont remember his pushes, i just remember him being chatty and friendly
Kylemii - my gut pinged me super hard, cant explain
JustPlayingitcool - is playing the same way he played in radiohead. claims that this is his town meta, thats possible, but then how does one read him?
Hyena - i think he started kinda flailing, dont wanna repeat the things ive already stated about why i sr him, there are there in my iso
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - doesnt seem that relaxed or easygoing, according to mac that's nook's towntell and nook isn't expressing it here fmpov, also nook is super engaged as town at least often times, and is often in the top posters and i think as town is more engaged and has more reads than this

Stopped reading this seeing I am top town.
Quoted for further refference

[Hyena]

Hi, @Michelle. It feels like we're on at different hours this game.

I wanted to ask you about Sloonei, especially in relation to your suggestion about not yeeting Ladd in the mash we played in last week. Is Sloonei in that never-yeet D1 tier for you?

I dunno why that above mention didn't work. :<
@Michelle

[Michelle]

Hi, @Michelle. It feels like we're on at different hours this game.

I wanted to ask you about Sloonei, especially in relation to your suggestion about not yeeting Ladd in the mash we played in last week. Is Sloonei in that never-yeet D1 tier for you?

Yes, always

[Michelle]

Hi, @Michelle. It feels like we're on at different hours this game.

I wanted to ask you about Sloonei, especially in relation to your suggestion about not yeeting Ladd in the mash we played in last week. Is Sloonei in that never-yeet D1 tier for you?

I dunno why that above mention didn't work. :<
@Michelle

Hi Hyena

[Michelle]

With the mention I can read Ladd better than i can read Sloonei

[tutuu]

MR and 112 having a ton of experience with each other and being at each others throats ought to indicate at least 1 wolf there, not impossible for 2

[Justplayingitcool]

Why would town fake their position? And subsequently, forget?

This thought seems unrealistic. I hope i'm being played and this is a fake thought for sarcasm.

I was 100% being serious

[Michelle]

When sis Cat calls me a clumsy town

[Hyena]

Hi, @Michelle. It feels like we're on at different hours this game.

I wanted to ask you about Sloonei, especially in relation to your suggestion about not yeeting Ladd in the mash we played in last week. Is Sloonei in that never-yeet D1 tier for you?

Yes, always

Okay, so was the suspicion that you mentioned feeling towards Sloonei earlier just something you wanted to mention, and not something you wanted to act on at that time?

[Hyena]

With the mention I can read Ladd better than i can read Sloonei

Okay, okay, that's fair.

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

[Master Radishes]

MR and 112 having a ton of experience with each other and being at each others throats ought to indicate at least 1 wolf there, not impossible for 2

Whilst in this case I agree there's one wolf between us, we've tricked each other so many times over the years that it usually takes us a full round or two before truly finding each other as town. We tend to be a bit hesitant in first.

Also I wouldn't characterise it that way. She's not at my throat - she TRs me in fact.

[tutuu]

112 unvoted MR lol

Well whatever

[Master Radishes]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

I have achieved top wagon.

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Michelle town.

One read down.

Due to that spoiler thing a few posts up?

Just generally saying things wolf Michelle doesn’t say imo. Shiny in a Michelle way. Like bronze.

I'll steal it.

Yep, Falcon is too stubborn to be scum. Take that with a grain of salt.

Good news, i feel i collected some town reads

Refusing to play the game is a common strat here. He gave reads anyway so it's not like he's that stubborn. GTH mafia. No balls.

My issue with Nutella here is that I've had basically no content as is normal for me, and yet somehow she's giving a pass to other posters with similar reps (Nanook, Wilgy, et al) and apparently can't formulate any better reads on people with far more content. I am her *only* wolf read, and all I've done is shitpost as usual. My one bit of content, at a stretch, is a mild and brief back and forth with falcon where I felt he was being hedgey and forcing a push on me (and I stand by that, though I don't know it's AI for him) and that's apaprently enough to have her decide I am not only a wolf but her *only* wolf so far.

It's an opportunistic nudge and she's not disguising it well enough.

Fun post. I like it.

I've largely vibed with both sloonei and tutuu who are strong town leader types and somehow the rest of the thread is against me, it's weird

Towncore gotta take charge

Spoiler: show

Every time I see Made post I just been like look at dat wolf. There is very little by way of solving. He hasn't had any spicy pushes that I saw. He keeps doing wolfy popins where he just comments half the time on NAI concerns then skeets off back to wolf chat.

Sounds more like low-effort than scum to me.

Yeah I'm not entirely discounting the possibility alison is scum playing a tricksy tactic, but I think it's at least equally and probably a good bit more plausible that she's really 3p. Like occam's razor is she really has that role, rather than cleverly coming up with it as a gambit lol

I'm gonna throw a curveball and say Alison is town. Thoughts?

Why would town fake their position? And subsequently, forget?

This thought seems unrealistic. I hope i'm being played and this is a fake thought for sarcasm.

We have almost 24 hours to go and I have no intention about getting more active...but based on my limited participation I am not feeling it on Hyena and would oppose that chop. Made is...meh. If things are the same as they are now with an hour to EoD I would start pushing Nutella probably, just to see if the Made push is serious, then go with whichever seemed bedt choice to push past Hyena.

After the lack of response from Made to my post + the vote Made made on me, I wanna pursue him. I haven't really gone looking for anyone else to pursue yet though. Starting to do that right now with people I haven't really looked at yet, like MR.

So you dismiss mine, Syn, and Made's pushes on you as OMGUS then you do this? I get the feeling you care more about surviving than solving the game. Like, Made is a really convenient push for you at this point.

Oh, I'm not doing any solving right now, lol. Guilty as charged. I'm just trying to get people to spill their guts out D1 and do stuff/react to stuff so that I have more interactions to read later on.

Hyena here and the recent posts is trying to be as transparent as possible to look towny, either too obvious of a wolf or a clumsy townie, something similar to what Michelle did when she forgot who was in the game. It's not wolfy, but they get no townpoints for it either.

Spoiler: show

@dyachei

Alison - claimed 3p, also unkillable and immune to yeeting after day 1 since she can redirect all night actions and all votes towards the person she made a contract with. so putting her aside

tutuu
Michelle - her reactions to getting pushed and a bunch of other stuff feel pretty towny
nutella - i dont care about her post count and i heavily dislike the fact that she's using the "im so bad as wolf i can barely post or do anything, my scum game is milesssss behind my towngame" thing as a defense, i think that if your scum game is lagging behind your towngame then you should be putting alot of effort to equalize the difference, instead of weaponizing the difference and using it to your advantage, thats lowkey unsportsmanlike imo, even if shes only stating the truth. its kind of like being proud that you never bus as scum and wanting to get towncleared upon being on a wolf wagon (like TSM mikey does) which unfairly skews the scale to favor your town winrate and lowers your scum winrate, or like when you only do heavy AtE as town and dont do it as wolf and u get free townreads and u dont realize that its not rly fair, sort of like a trust tell. even tho ur job as town is to be truthful in my opinion some truths are best not spoken for the sake of a sportsmanlike competitive game @nutella . im sorry i just - this is my opinion, i dont want to yell at you or scold you and i love you very much nutella and i think you know it, i just cant not share my opinion on how our mafia gameplay on the syndicate can be improved, thats all!

ANYWAY, for my actual read on her that i think is valid and sportsmanlike (as in, its fakable if she was wolf) - i like her sassy and erratic responses to multiple posts, they are too much for me to pinpoint all but there are there in both of our ISOs. i think that shes heavily invested in the game and she had some textbook towny posts - one of them was recent, somebody was townreading her and she pointed out how scummy that person is for townreading her, which is a towntell when you're in nutella's situation (receiving scumreads from multiple places). the biggest part is her pushes really, they just make sense
MacDougall - i think from the two scum games ive seen from him last year he was really trolly and erratic, i think as town he gets more serious and his reads get more deep. i think if he was mafia or 3p here he played in a way that would get him night killed due to being perceived as a threat from one of the scum teams, which is not good for him if he's scum. optimal scum play in this game is to be towny but not that towny imo. so i think he's town
Sloonei - exact same read as mac, except without the trolly and erratic part. i can add that ive seen him be scum twice, i have caught him both times (its not only nutella who rekt sloonei ) and ive seen him be town once in my game and the contrast is pretty stark imo. he's just clearly town here imo
Syn - echoing the already stated reads on him, nobody expects much from him so if he is mafia here he can post three times less and nobody would push him. the fact that he's putting way more effort than the average effort put out by players in this threat makes him town in my eyes

112 - i find all of her posts extremely logical and i can follow them. any reasons to doubt her is that she isnt playing in a way that would make her nightkilled by scum early on imo, so she isnt showing the "multiball towntell" in my eyes, and additionallyshe has fooled me before as mafia
Timsup2nothin - i dont wanna repeat it, i laid it out already in my iso. its about the way he interacted with sloonei about the perceived tmi slip about multiball
Thunal33 - pretty similar to 112, i nod my head as i read her posts, they make sense and are good, but she is not getting nightkilled and could be a solving mafia
DrWilgy - unfortunately little explanation for this. this is simply my gut. i think he's being genuine. i liked the "maybe yall can listen to me for once" post
Marmot - again cant explain much. gut. ive played a bunch of games with marmot. perhaps im starting to get familiar. he feels more similar to bike mafia compared to the times i saw him scum. maybe, i think.

MartinGG99 - i liked his posts where he was saying "u guys can kill me at any time". but otherwise low post count, could be scum
falcon45ca - i liked some of his assertive tone, but otherwise low post count, hard to read, could be scum, the assertive tone thingy could be his personality
cat - i liked his sass, i disliked one logical post of his (because it was logical), low post count
JackofHearts2005 - i have little to no experience with jack; low post count
dyachei - recently joined, dont have much to read them off of. previous owner was 0 poster
Dyslexicon - low post count, i have seen him be like this as town a lot
TurnipHead - 0 poster
Long Con - surprised he has 80, i dont remember most of his posts, shows how spammy this game is. just checked post coutns nutella has 330 posts what the actual fuck. but yeah. long con notoriously hard to read / impossible
TonyStarkPrime - low post count, gut says he's scum but last game i wrongly tunneled him

Master Radishes - sheeping nutella, i liked her idea that if MR is logical and cooperative that could mean he's mafia
Made - i echo someone's read that made jumping around like a happy little fairy between posts could mean he's mafia. i dont remember his pushes, i just remember him being chatty and friendly
Kylemii - my gut pinged me super hard, cant explain
JustPlayingitcool - is playing the same way he played in radiohead. claims that this is his town meta, thats possible, but then how does one read him?
Hyena - i think he started kinda flailing, dont wanna repeat the things ive already stated about why i sr him, there are there in my iso
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - doesnt seem that relaxed or easygoing, according to mac that's nook's towntell and nook isn't expressing it here fmpov, also nook is super engaged as town at least often times, and is often in the top posters and i think as town is more engaged and has more reads than this

Very handy, thank you.

Confirmed i've skimmed this, i will check it all after work

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

U should all vote Kyle with me. He's clearly Mafia.

[Michelle]

Hi, @Michelle. It feels like we're on at different hours this game.

I wanted to ask you about Sloonei, especially in relation to your suggestion about not yeeting Ladd in the mash we played in last week. Is Sloonei in that never-yeet D1 tier for you?

Yes, always

Okay, so was the suspicion that you mentioned feeling towards Sloonei earlier just something you wanted to mention, and not something you wanted to act on at that time?

The suspicion was real and i mentioned it to receive opinions
I would never push blindly anyone at this level

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

U should all vote Kyle with me. He's clearly Mafia.

Yes, you are jester like 88,637%

[Michelle]

I am getting more and more convinced Nutella is mafia. She's mind melding with bad takes.

I witnessed this in bread game, i don't think this is the problem

it's quite a personal read for me, when Nutella is town her and I just connect.
and she also has completely avoided pointing that out or sussing me.

I am like 90% sure she's just mafia.

Noted this big Mac

[tutuu]

ISO Kyle your gut will go ping ping ping and you will see he is Mafia.

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

U should all vote Kyle with me. He's clearly Mafia.

Yes, you are jester like 88,637%

You haven't seen me play similarly as town?

[Michelle]

MR and 112 having a ton of experience with each other and being at each others throats ought to indicate at least 1 wolf there, not impossible for 2

Whilst in this case I agree there's one wolf between us, we've tricked each other so many times over the years that it usually takes us a full round or two before truly finding each other as town. We tend to be a bit hesitant in first.

Also I wouldn't characterise it that way. She's not at my throat - she TRs me in fact.

Can you share some reads?

[tutuu]

Which doesn't contradict your jester read

[Master Radishes]

MR and 112 having a ton of experience with each other and being at each others throats ought to indicate at least 1 wolf there, not impossible for 2

Whilst in this case I agree there's one wolf between us, we've tricked each other so many times over the years that it usually takes us a full round or two before truly finding each other as town. We tend to be a bit hesitant in first.

Also I wouldn't characterise it that way. She's not at my throat - she TRs me in fact.

Can you share some reads?

No.

[Hyena]

Why would town fake their position? And subsequently, forget?

This thought seems unrealistic. I hope i'm being played and this is a fake thought for sarcasm.

So, in the past I have townread people with a degree of accuracy whenever they've got confused like JPIC seemed by my playstyle. However, recently that bit me in the butt in a game I played last week. Also, I've gotten this feeling that JPIC has been looking for any reason to push me. I don't even think it's because I was getting heat earlier, which might actually indicate that it comes from town, but more because he doesn't know who else to go after and how to push on anyone else at the moment.

[MacDougall]

Same goes for Tutuu, maybe I'm just tunneled but I can't get there on her in this game. Or Nut. I think Sloonei might be the town there.

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

U should all vote Kyle with me. He's clearly Mafia.

Yes, you are jester like 88,637%

You haven't seen me play similarly as town?

I don't meta read anyone unless meta may give a real support in finding AI. Your meta doesn't have this quality imo

[Hyena]

Hi, @Michelle. It feels like we're on at different hours this game.

I wanted to ask you about Sloonei, especially in relation to your suggestion about not yeeting Ladd in the mash we played in last week. Is Sloonei in that never-yeet D1 tier for you?

Yes, always

Okay, so was the suspicion that you mentioned feeling towards Sloonei earlier just something you wanted to mention, and not something you wanted to act on at that time?

The suspicion was real and i mentioned it to receive opinions
I would never push blindly anyone at this level

Alright, noted!

[MacDougall]

That said, Tutuu totally tilted JPIC out of his shoes and I do think there is room for JPIC's reaction to have been the old "caught for wrong reasons" dealio. I'd definitely rule out them being wolf teammates from that interaction. Twas rather unfakeable.

[Justplayingitcool]

Why would town fake their position? And subsequently, forget?

This thought seems unrealistic. I hope i'm being played and this is a fake thought for sarcasm.

So, in the past I have townread people with a degree of accuracy whenever they've got confused like JPIC seemed by my playstyle. However, recently that bit me in the butt in a game I played last week. Also, I've gotten this feeling that JPIC has been looking for any reason to push me. I don't even think it's because I was getting heat earlier, which might actually indicate that it comes from town, but more because he doesn't know who else to go after and how to push on anyone else at the moment.

I can't tell if this is a TR or a SR

[Michelle]

MR and 112 having a ton of experience with each other and being at each others throats ought to indicate at least 1 wolf there, not impossible for 2

Whilst in this case I agree there's one wolf between us, we've tricked each other so many times over the years that it usually takes us a full round or two before truly finding each other as town. We tend to be a bit hesitant in first.

Also I wouldn't characterise it that way. She's not at my throat - she TRs me in fact.

Can you share some reads?

No.

[Justplayingitcool]

That said, Tutuu totally tilted JPIC out of his shoes and I do think there is room for JPIC's reaction to have been the old "caught for wrong reasons" dealio. I'd definitely rule out them being wolf teammates from that interaction. Twas rather unfakeable.

I get tilted a lot as town. Look at Champs

[Hyena]

Same goes for Tutuu, maybe I'm just tunneled but I can't get there on her in this game. Or Nut. I think Sloonei might be the town there.

What did you think about Nut waffling on me earlier? Specifically, her calling me town hours after my initial spat with Sloonei, then turning back around and calling me scum again after Sloonei made that big case post against me?

[Hyena]

Why would town fake their position? And subsequently, forget?

This thought seems unrealistic. I hope i'm being played and this is a fake thought for sarcasm.

So, in the past I have townread people with a degree of accuracy whenever they've got confused like JPIC seemed by my playstyle. However, recently that bit me in the butt in a game I played last week. Also, I've gotten this feeling that JPIC has been looking for any reason to push me. I don't even think it's because I was getting heat earlier, which might actually indicate that it comes from town, but more because he doesn't know who else to go after and how to push on anyone else at the moment.

I can't tell if this is a TR or a SR

I can't tell either.

[Justplayingitcool]

I'd be bitter if there was a jester in this game and I didn't rand it

[MacDougall]

Same goes for Tutuu, maybe I'm just tunneled but I can't get there on her in this game. Or Nut. I think Sloonei might be the town there.

What did you think about Nut waffling on me earlier? Specifically, her calling me town hours after my initial spat with Sloonei, then turning back around and calling me scum again after Sloonei made that big case post against me?

Gonna need quotes

[Michelle]

That said, Tutuu totally tilted JPIC out of his shoes and I do think there is room for JPIC's reaction to have been the old "caught for wrong reasons" dealio. I'd definitely rule out them being wolf teammates from that interaction. Twas rather unfakeable.

This post reminds me of

[tutuu]

That said, Tutuu totally tilted JPIC out of his shoes and I do think there is room for JPIC's reaction to have been the old "caught for wrong reasons" dealio. I'd definitely rule out them being wolf teammates from that interaction. Twas rather unfakeable.

I get tilted a lot as town. Look at Champs

It's something you should aim to equalize between alignments - either don't do it as town or do it as often as scum too. Alot of people don't do this and becomes a lowkey trust tell

[Michelle]

That said, Tutuu totally tilted JPIC out of his shoes and I do think there is room for JPIC's reaction to have been the old "caught for wrong reasons" dealio. I'd definitely rule out them being wolf teammates from that interaction. Twas rather unfakeable.

I get tilted a lot as town. Look at Champs

Which game?

[Justplayingitcool]

That said, Tutuu totally tilted JPIC out of his shoes and I do think there is room for JPIC's reaction to have been the old "caught for wrong reasons" dealio. I'd definitely rule out them being wolf teammates from that interaction. Twas rather unfakeable.

I get tilted a lot as town. Look at Champs

Which game?

Season 7, game 2

[Michelle]

That said, Tutuu totally tilted JPIC out of his shoes and I do think there is room for JPIC's reaction to have been the old "caught for wrong reasons" dealio. I'd definitely rule out them being wolf teammates from that interaction. Twas rather unfakeable.

I get tilted a lot as town. Look at Champs

Which game?

Season 7, game 2

Thanks, i will check my notes of game 2 i made in summer

[Hyena]

@MacDougall

Wilgy and hyena are okish for now. Tabling Nanook as usual. Radish is my only wolf read.

Explain.

Wilgy and hyena are okish

Tabling Nanook for now

Radish is my only wolf read

don't like this- it was a fair question

Well I'm busy and on mobile and don't feel like elaborating on players I've talked about already

Wilgy and hyena felt better overnight in my catchup that's all

Yeah I like that Hyena case. The "reaction testing" thing was certainly a weird discredit and I'm not convinced the sloonei suspicion was ever real. For some reason I liked a few of his posts overnight but reading over this is bringing me back, I may un-table him

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Which champion will you retire today?
Poll runs till Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


112
2
7%
Voters: Master Radishes, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Alison
1
4%
Voters: falcon45ca
Cat
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyslexicon
1
4%
Voters: 112
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Hyena
0
No votes
Voters: None
JackofHearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
JustPlayingitcool
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
1
4%
Voters: tutuu
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
4
15%
Voters: DrWilgy, cat, Long Con, Hyena
Marmot
0
No votes
Voters: None
MartinGG99
0
No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
4
15%
Voters: Michelle, Dyslexicon, Thunal33, nutella
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
4
15%
Voters: Marmot, MacDougall, Syn, Jackofhearts2005
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
Syn
0
No votes
Voters: None
Thunal33
1
4%
Voters: Sloonei
Timsup2nothin
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
TurnipHead
0
No votes
Voters: None
tutuu
1
4%
Voters: Made
No vote
4
15%
Voters: Justplayingitcool, TonyStarkPrime, Alison, Timsup2nothin
No elimination
0
No votes
Voters: None
Tom Brady (host/non)
4
15%
Voters: Epignosis, c4e5g3d5, JaggedJimmyJay, dunya
Total votes: 27

VC now

@Made you know what to do

[MacDougall]

I still think Nanook has high chance of flipping mafia here. 112 also feels very different to what I am used to.

It's particularly tweaking me out to note that Nook, Tutuu and Nutella are the people I would feel most confident finding as town if they were. I don't really have a history of tunneling these them wrongly. They generally are just billboard town to me when they are town and if I do tinfoil them wrongly it tends to be after a few days and some wolf flips.

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall

Wilgy and hyena are okish for now. Tabling Nanook as usual. Radish is my only wolf read.

Explain.

Wilgy and hyena are okish

Tabling Nanook for now

Radish is my only wolf read

don't like this- it was a fair question

Well I'm busy and on mobile and don't feel like elaborating on players I've talked about already

Wilgy and hyena felt better overnight in my catchup that's all

Yeah I like that Hyena case. The "reaction testing" thing was certainly a weird discredit and I'm not convinced the sloonei suspicion was ever real. For some reason I liked a few of his posts overnight but reading over this is bringing me back, I may un-table him

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine

I don't hate this specifically.