Dr. Who Mafia - Night 12

#6751

S~V~S wrote:
Chris wrote:MP, two things I'd like to ask you about.

With quotes, is there a way to timestamp them? Also, is there a way to click on a quote to take you to the original?

And if not, can you make it so?
I don't know that we would want to install mods mid game. I do know that that mod is on the to do list.

You can always link to the original post.

#6752

SVS where are you leaning for this vote?

#6753

The key here is Metalmarsh. Whether you believe he was recruited by the recruiter or the Master (I'm leaning the latter, given MM's rezz posts), we WAS recruited. The player who recruited him had the chance to save him.

Interestingly Roxy did vote Epignosis and may have tried to save her fellow recruit.

Epignosis 2.0 - 7 votes
Roxy (9), S~V~S (10), Chris (11), Dom (12), Long Con (14), Bass_the_Clever (19), Metalmarsh89 (22)

MetalMarsh - 7 votes
MovingPictures07 (7), DFaraday (8), juliets (13), Epignosis (16), Snow Dog (17), Elohcin (20), Hedgeowl (21)

Dom is the only player I believe voted to save MM. I believe he's the Master, but he could easily be the recruiter. Let's look at Roxy's lynch:

Chris - 3 votes
Dom (7), sabie12 (8), DFaraday (14)

DFaraday - 2 votes
keys56000000000 (18), Hedgeowl (21)

Roxy - 9 votes
MovingPictures07 (10), Epignosis (11), Chris (12), Turnip Head (15), nijuukyugou (16), Snow Dog (17), Black Rock (19), Elohcin (22), Long Con (23)

Now, Roxy gained an easy majority. Only Chris and DFraday took the other votes that day. Dom was one of the other votes, the first vote out of living players.

He is the way we have to vote today if we still want to win this game. Lynching a cyberman won't help us. Please, vote Dom!

#6754

What even is your argument about the Roxy lynch?

#6755

Yikes, I'm not sure what to do here. I could honestly still see scenarios where Blooper, DF, and Dom are The Master... and I suppose any of them could be the recruiter too, but I still think the recruiter is probably dead.

Going to mull on options and try to sort through to make an informed vote tonight. Until then, I'll be busy continuing to multitask stuff.

S~V~S wrote:
Chris wrote:MP, two things I'd like to ask you about.

With quotes, is there a way to timestamp them? Also, is there a way to click on a quote to take you to the original?

And if not, can you make it so?
I don't know that we would want to install mods mid game. I do know that that mod is on the to do list.

This.

#6756

MP, vote Dom plz. I'm right on this one, I can feel it.

Dom wrote:What even is your argument about the Roxy lynch?

Both of them were recruited. MM could have been recruited by the Master, but the fact you voted against lynching both of them means you could be the recruiter. I think you are the Master, however.

Chris · #6757

thellama73 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Chris wrote:MP, two things I'd like to ask you about.

With quotes, is there a way to timestamp them? Also, is there a way to click on a quote to take you to the original?

And if not, can you make it so?
I don't know that we would want to install mods mid game. I do know that that mod is on the to do list.
You can always link to the original post.

I wasn't asking for someone to do it tonight. I just meant in the future.

And me making a link while I'm quoting someone is easy enough. But when I'm reading someone else's post with a quote, I have no way of knowing where that original is.

#6758

Chris has been spoiled by other sites we played on having that mod installed.

I am similarly spoiled, and second his request!

#6759

As for my vote, I will hold off till tonight, and I'm not telling who I'm voting for yet. There's several compelling cases out there. I want to avoid any CyberHead vote shenanigans, so let's all be careful about spreading it out too much!

#6760

zeek wrote:MP, vote Dom plz. I'm right on this one, I can feel it.

Dom wrote:What even is your argument about the Roxy lynch?
Both of them were recruited. MM could have been recruited by the Master, but the fact you voted against lynching both of them means you could be the recruiter. I think you are the Master, however.

So I'm the recruiter master?

#6761

You're misrepresenting me, Dom.

You could be either, as we don't know who recruited MM. You have brought nothing to the table since MM's rezz. You're in stealth mode. Those lynches are telling.

#6762

zeek wrote:You're misrepresenting me, Dom.

You could be either, as we don't know who recruited MM. You have brought nothing to the table since MM's rezz. You're in stealth mode. Those lynches are telling.

I have to admit, it's hard to say no to that moustache!

#6763

You speak the truth, dear chap

#6764

Long Con wrote:
zeek wrote:You're misrepresenting me, Dom.

You could be either, as we don't know who recruited MM. You have brought nothing to the table since MM's rezz. You're in stealth mode. Those lynches are telling.
I have to admit, it's hard to say no to that moustache!

Chris · #6765

Dom wrote:
zeek wrote:MP, vote Dom plz. I'm right on this one, I can feel it.

Dom wrote:What even is your argument about the Roxy lynch?
Both of them were recruited. MM could have been recruited by the Master, but the fact you voted against lynching both of them means you could be the recruiter. I think you are the Master, however.
So I'm the recruiter master?

Dr. Cyber Master Dalek recruiter to be exact...

#6766

Chris wrote:Dr. Cyber Master Dalek BODY recruiter to be exact...

* Fixed

#6767

juliets wrote:SVS where are you leaning for this vote?

No idea yet tbh. Will jump in when home.

#6768

zeek wrote:You're misrepresenting me, Dom.

You could be either, as we don't know who recruited MM. You have brought nothing to the table since MM's rezz. You're in stealth mode. Those lynches are telling.

Oh, I understand you better.

And are you remotely serious about me bringing nothing to the table?
I have discussed DFaraday, Chris, Bass, and others. You have brought some points that I can see your interpretation of them, but you are wrong about-- however, this is a blatant lie.

#6769

Yeah, you have discussed people but remotely strong opinions? No. You're trying to coast through. My argument is not based on this, however, and when you're lynched everyone will know I was right.

#6770

zeek wrote:Yeah, you have discussed people but remotely strong opinions? No. You're trying to coast through. My argument is not based on this, however, and when you're lynched everyone will know I was right.

And how will that feel?

#6771

Good, because the Master is bad.

#6772

I presume if Dom is lynched AND the master he will survive, right?

#6773

OK, we have already spread the vote out too far. We have Faraday, Dom, Hedge, Ninjajujube & Snowy.

The two I feel strongest about are Faraday & Ninju. Not sure I buy the Ood-ity~ it seemed too convenient to me. And Ninju sounds totally insincere to me. So I am leaning towards a Ninju vote, but will be around for a few hours. I am very, very leery of this lynch. It can all go to hell really fast with this spread. And the case makers, including people I trust, for the most part, seems very very sure about their beliefs. I am not so sure, and really don't want to make a mistake.

#6774

I don't want the vote spread either. I'm not changing my vote though.

Snowy, yes, he will survive today.

#6775

Zeek, you've got a compelling case on Dom, but on the other hand, Dom's reaction seem genuine. I'm not going to vote for him today, but he's definitely one to consider.

#6776

That is a mistake, keys, the long we wait the longer it'll take to get him out the game. He's killing tonight.

#6777

I am voting Dom.

#6778

zeek wrote:That is a mistake, keys, the long we wait the longer it'll take to get him out the game. He's killing tonight.

I'm not as convinced as you, since your case rests on some assumptions I wouldn't be prepared to make, such as the recruiter not voting for the recruited, but like I said, it's very compelling nonetheless.

#6779

That is fair enough, but whoever MM was recruited by had no need to throw him under the bus. It was 7-7 without extra hidden votes.

Which case do you find the most compelling?

Chris · #6780

Something feels very wrong about all of this...

Linki @ keys: I agree

I also want address something DF said earlier, in regards to my thinking Dom could be Cyber. You said that he voted for three Cybers in a row, but if you remember, that vote for Sabie came very begrudgingly, and late, after a vast majority had already voted for Sabie.

With how obvious they were with their voting, if I was their teammate, I'd be first in line to vote them. Which is exactly what Dom did with Bass.

rabbit taught me a valuable baddie lesson one time when I was a baddie with him, and I fucked up something in the thread. He immediately voted me and made a case on why I was bad.

Nice guy, eh?

#6781

zeek wrote:That is fair enough, but whoever MM was recruited by had no need to throw him under the bus. It was 7-7 without extra hidden votes.

Which case do you find the most compelling?

My own against Hedgeowl

#6782

I'm going to vote for the person whm I think is least likely to be a civilian. I don't have mcuh faith in any target here, it's a fingers-crossed deal.

#6783

Chris, what wrong?

keys, why Hedge? He voted to lynch MM. If you think Hedge is the recruiter, MM can't have been recruited by him IMO.

#6784

How many people missed that vote?

And I am not so sure about that; being the role he was, I still think it possible that he had joined with the Master and that the way it was worded was the best way to convey that, and remain ambiguous. When i first said, "Hey, we don't know who recruited him", i got spanked for it, and told to read the Masters role. When we learned there was a separate recruiting role (presumably) only then did people stop thinking MM was recruited by the Master.

#6785

zeek wrote:Yeah, you have discussed people but remotely strong opinions? No. You're trying to coast through. My argument is not based on this, however, and when you're lynched everyone will know I was right.

You're delusional.
I have had very strong opinions, I think anyone can attest to that.

I refuse to be lied about.

#6786

Epignosis wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I went with Non Dr Who cause I don't want to compete with the hosts.

And interesting~ he was recruited. it does not say by whom, though. I am going to guess the Daleks, because i tend to believe in the Snowy Lynch/Saving Made theory.
Read the roles. He was recruited by The Master.

See?

#6787

I agree that there are some compelling cases out there but zeek's case and his zealousness plus my own gut feel are leading me to vote for Dom. Another smaller thing that I caught in Dom's posting while defending himself was the notion that if he were the master he would have helped fill in the master's secrets during the decoding since he would have known the secrets. I know his argument is wifom thus my comment is too but I would think it would be just the opposite. If you help make the secret whole it seems to me you would be more suspicious, if anything. I just found that POV odd. Anyway, I think this is the right vote so I'm voting now and like keys said keeping my fingers crossed -

*vote Dom

*also chris I see how you could be right and dom be a cyber but I'm banking on him being the master or the recruiter.

#6788

I don't know, I was dead and only skimming. A few at least.

I would have agreed with you if I could. I don't think whoever recruited MM would have missed the vote. There was no telling he'd be lynched even after the poll closed. I'm of the mind that MM was with the Master and Dom fits the bill.

linki - You're the delusional one, Dom. The only lie is saying you're not bad. You are.

#6789

S~V~S wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I went with Non Dr Who cause I don't want to compete with the hosts.

And interesting~ he was recruited. it does not say by whom, though. I am going to guess the Daleks, because i tend to believe in the Snowy Lynch/Saving Made theory.
Read the roles. He was recruited by The Master.
See?

I wasn't trying to spank anyone.

I'm just direct.

Chris · #6790

zeek wrote:Chris, what wrong?

What's wrong is, I don't think zeek would go after Dom this hard without knowing he was right.

But my problem is witg how zeek knows this. His case is based on basically nothing. All he's been doing is ranting and raving, trying to get anyone to vote for Dom.

This all just seems like a noob role checker who just checked his first baddie...

#6791

Chris wrote:
zeek wrote:Chris, what wrong?
What's wrong is, I don't think zeek would go after Dom this hard without knowing he was right.

But my problem is witg how zeek knows this. His case is based on basically nothing. All he's been doing is ranting and raving, trying to get anyone to vote for Dom.

This all just seems like a noob role checker who just checked his first baddie...

It's day 11. Enough with the role checker nonsense.

#6792

Epignosis wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I went with Non Dr Who cause I don't want to compete with the hosts.

And interesting~ he was recruited. it does not say by whom, though. I am going to guess the Daleks, because i tend to believe in the Snowy Lynch/Saving Made theory.
Read the roles. He was recruited by The Master.
See?
I wasn't trying to spank anyone.

I'm just direct.

No worries. I got over it. The point was, though, that originally, no one had any problems thinking that Lucy & the Master had gotten together. Then based on wording, which can be tricksy, when we found there may be an actual recruiter, suddenly no one thought that anymore.

i took your advice and read the roles, and do think either scenario is possible.

Linki~ yeah, he is not actiing like a noob anything.

Chris · #6793

Epignosis wrote:
It's day 11. Enough with the role checker nonsense.

And here I thought the English teacher would know what an analogy was.

#6794

Chris wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
It's day 11. Enough with the role checker nonsense.
And here I thought the English teacher would know what an analogy was.

He does. And he can readily differentiate between an analogy and a simile.

#6795

I'm not a noob. I've found a lot of baddies leading lynches in mid-to-endgame in the past. You don't like my case, fine.

It's really funny that you think it's based on nothing, because your cases have had far less substance. The voting is there, which you've based your cases on before. It worries me you're trying to discredit that.

#6796

Chris wrote:
zeek wrote:Chris, what wrong?
What's wrong is, I don't think zeek would go after Dom this hard without knowing he was right.

But my problem is witg how zeek knows this. His case is based on basically nothing. All he's been doing is ranting and raving, trying to get anyone to vote for Dom.

This all just seems like a noob role checker who just checked his first baddie...

Haha, that's so funny coming from you. I disagree that Zeek's case is based on nothing. His interpretation of the votes seems solid and reasonable to me.

Chris · #6797

OH MY FUCKING GOD!

I said zeek was acting LIKE a noob role checker who just checked his first baddie...

I didn't say he WAS the role checker...

Fuck.

#6798

Chris wrote:OH MY FUCKING GOD!

I said zeek was acting LIKE a noob role checker who just checked his first baddie...

I didn't say he WAS the role checker...

Fuck.

Which is why it's a simile and not an analogy.

Chris · #6799

keys56000000000 wrote:
Chris wrote:
zeek wrote:Chris, what wrong?
What's wrong is, I don't think zeek would go after Dom this hard without knowing he was right.

But my problem is witg how zeek knows this. His case is based on basically nothing. All he's been doing is ranting and raving, trying to get anyone to vote for Dom.

This all just seems like a noob role checker who just checked his first baddie...
Haha, that's so funny coming from you. I disagree that Zeek's case is based on nothing. His interpretation of the votes seems solid and reasonable to me.

His interpretation of the votes?

One day of votes. He analyzed day 6, and noted that Dom didn't vote for MM.

OH SHIT!!! HE'S RIGHT!!! DOM DIDN'T VOTE FOR MM!!! DOM IS THE MASTER!!!

Like I said, I'm convinced that zeek is right. My concern is how is he right...

#6800

You are smarter than people give you credit for, Chris.

24 Hour Days?