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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:33 am
by DharmaHelper
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:29 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:27 am
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:22 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:20 am
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:18 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:03 am
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:09 am Ope, I found it! (am I allowed to post a quote from another game?)

...wait. Quin's in Ravenclaw. I don't want to lynch someone in my house. :(
But Quin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Another example of Luna prioritizing House Cup over hunting. Can we call this the Yun Qui Tetll? If we're making up tells.
I'm voting for Quin anyways. How is that prioritizing House Cup points over hunting?
Voting for and trying to lynch are two different issues.
Really? Because I don't vote someone if I'm not trying to lynch them. DH, what's your opinion on Quin?
On the whole I liked his D1 play, having just now read into his D2 stuff, I don't feel great about his JC post which he essentially admitted was trash, and he backed off of it pretty easily/quickly. I don't see anything "bad" from him, though.
Thanks for your input. If you had to point out scum to lynch right now, who's your GTH vote?
I'm moderately pinged by you, but I feel strongly that Owner's obsession w/ me D1 and her squirrely-ness with answering questions are good indications that she's bad. So if this was Outpost mafia and I had the flamethrower, it'd be Extra Crispy time up in here real quick.

That being said I'll have a firmer grasp of the game tomorrow when I do my Re-ISOing, and probably walk away from that with something better than a GTH, or in your case a "moderate ping".

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:43 am
by Lunalee
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:33 am
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:29 am
Spoiler: show
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:27 am
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:22 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:20 am
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:18 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:03 am

Another example of Luna prioritizing House Cup over hunting. Can we call this the Yun Qui Tetll? If we're making up tells.
I'm voting for Quin anyways. How is that prioritizing House Cup points over hunting?
Voting for and trying to lynch are two different issues.
Really? Because I don't vote someone if I'm not trying to lynch them. DH, what's your opinion on Quin?
On the whole I liked his D1 play, having just now read into his D2 stuff, I don't feel great about his JC post which he essentially admitted was trash, and he backed off of it pretty easily/quickly. I don't see anything "bad" from him, though.
Thanks for your input. If you had to point out scum to lynch right now, who's your GTH vote?
I'm moderately pinged by you, but I feel strongly that Owner's obsession w/ me D1 and her squirrely-ness with answering questions are good indications that she's bad. So if this was Outpost mafia and I had the flamethrower, it'd be Extra Crispy time up in here real quick.

That being said I'll have a firmer grasp of the game tomorrow when I do my Re-ISOing, and probably walk away from that with something better than a GTH, or in your case a "moderate ping".
I'm glad this game bases lynches on the majority vote instead of one person with a flamethrower. You and Owner did have a lot of back-and-forth, and I see why you suspect her. But I'm starting to think if she were scum she wouldn't have been so blatant with her accusations of you. Just a though. I feel like scum are mostly laying low right now, and I don't think we're on the right trail.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:45 am
by ColinIsCool
speedchuck wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:30 am Hnnnnn rez please
I cannot emphasize this enough. Use your damn rezzes on TH or Speed while you’re still here.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:45 am
by DharmaHelper
I too am glad to be out of the Outpost.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:46 am
by ColinIsCool
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:43 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:33 am
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:29 am
Spoiler: show
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:27 am
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:22 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:20 am
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:18 am

I'm voting for Quin anyways. How is that prioritizing House Cup points over hunting?
Voting for and trying to lynch are two different issues.
Really? Because I don't vote someone if I'm not trying to lynch them. DH, what's your opinion on Quin?
On the whole I liked his D1 play, having just now read into his D2 stuff, I don't feel great about his JC post which he essentially admitted was trash, and he backed off of it pretty easily/quickly. I don't see anything "bad" from him, though.
Thanks for your input. If you had to point out scum to lynch right now, who's your GTH vote?
I'm moderately pinged by you, but I feel strongly that Owner's obsession w/ me D1 and her squirrely-ness with answering questions are good indications that she's bad. So if this was Outpost mafia and I had the flamethrower, it'd be Extra Crispy time up in here real quick.

That being said I'll have a firmer grasp of the game tomorrow when I do my Re-ISOing, and probably walk away from that with something better than a GTH, or in your case a "moderate ping".
I'm glad this game bases lynches on the majority vote instead of one person with a flamethrower. You and Owner did have a lot of back-and-forth, and I see why you suspect her. But I'm starting to think if she were scum she wouldn't have been so blatant with her accusations of you. Just a though. I feel like scum are mostly laying low right now, and I don't think we're on the right trail.
If we’re not on the right trail why did you voice support of Bullzeye’s lynch?

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:50 am
by Lunalee
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:46 am
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:43 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:33 am
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:29 am
Spoiler: show
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:27 am
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:22 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:20 am

Voting for and trying to lynch are two different issues.
Really? Because I don't vote someone if I'm not trying to lynch them. DH, what's your opinion on Quin?
On the whole I liked his D1 play, having just now read into his D2 stuff, I don't feel great about his JC post which he essentially admitted was trash, and he backed off of it pretty easily/quickly. I don't see anything "bad" from him, though.
Thanks for your input. If you had to point out scum to lynch right now, who's your GTH vote?
I'm moderately pinged by you, but I feel strongly that Owner's obsession w/ me D1 and her squirrely-ness with answering questions are good indications that she's bad. So if this was Outpost mafia and I had the flamethrower, it'd be Extra Crispy time up in here real quick.

That being said I'll have a firmer grasp of the game tomorrow when I do my Re-ISOing, and probably walk away from that with something better than a GTH, or in your case a "moderate ping".
I'm glad this game bases lynches on the majority vote instead of one person with a flamethrower. You and Owner did have a lot of back-and-forth, and I see why you suspect her. But I'm starting to think if she were scum she wouldn't have been so blatant with her accusations of you. Just a though. I feel like scum are mostly laying low right now, and I don't think we're on the right trail.
If we’re not on the right trail why did you voice support of Bullzeye’s lynch?
I did voice support of the Bullz lynch, but at the same time it seems too easy.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:51 am
by juliets
I just re-read speedchuck and found that:

1. In the end he did not believe OoaLH was bad so I don't think he was killed by a baddie team with OoaLH on it.
2. He said some negative things about Glorf which doesn't look great for Glorf but it's not enough for me to suspect him.

Has anyone else re-read speed? See anything that I didn't?

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:52 am
by juliets
I'm out for the time being, physical therapy calls. Be back later this afternoon.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:55 am
by DharmaHelper
juliets wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:51 am I just re-read speedchuck and found that:

1. In the end he did not believe OoaLH was bad so I don't think he was killed by a baddie team with OoaLH on it.
2. He said some negative things about Glorf which doesn't look great for Glorf but it's not enough for me to suspect him.

Has anyone else re-read speed? See anything that I didn't?
You think Owner wouldn't sign off on a speedchuck kill? Hm.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:58 am
by DharmaHelper
Or that Owner not signing off would prevent the kill? Hmm.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:08 am
by Lunalee
juliets wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:51 am I just re-read speedchuck and found that:

1. In the end he did not believe OoaLH was bad so I don't think he was killed by a baddie team with OoaLH on it.
2. He said some negative things about Glorf which doesn't look great for Glorf but it's not enough for me to suspect him.

Has anyone else re-read speed? See anything that I didn't?
good idea!
Spoiler: show
So speed mentioned lynching Nova, an inactive. and Colin replies with:
speedchuck wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:59 am
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:49 am
speedchuck wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:36 am JJJ and TH have their assorted trains. I don't have townreads on either of them, so I don't hate it. I'll see if I can go back and get a detailed read off the day's posts.

Still want to put out there that Nova hasn't checked in, and as such is a fun lynch option. Not necessarily a GOOD lynch option (no way of knowing that), but one that will allow night actions to be taken by a greater number of active players.
I think there were some replacements signed up, so leaving Nova for now wouldn’t be the worst thing.
Ah. So it seems. Thanks! ;airguitar:
Could Colin be trying to save a teammate?

Also speed did poke a lot at Bullz for his Nova vote.
speedchuck wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:35 pm
Bullzeye wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:33 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:24 pm
Bullzeye wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:18 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:13 pm
Bullzeye wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:09 pm I didn't have time to read anything at all yesterday but remembered that the poll would end pretty early for me so wanted to make sure I had a vote. In lieu of catching up I just voted for a no-show. Didn't realise that was suddenly an unforgivable sin in some people's eyes. :shrug:
"wanted to make sure I had a vote"

Why did you want to make sure of this?
Why do you think I didn't want to miss the vote?
There are two different reasons I can think of. One is worse than the other. I wanted to see your immediate response, and which reason it fit.
Instead I got caginess, which is not wonderful.
The answer is I don't ever like to miss votes if I can help it. I just think it's obvious why someone wouldn't want to miss the vote and in no way indicative of anything.
Ah, okay. That was the worse one. :grin: Could just be a thing you did though.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:10 am
by Quin
[VOTE: mac] aubergine because he probably wanted a reaction and i'm happy to oblige

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:23 am
by ColinIsCool
I’ve spoken to my motivation regarding keeping Nova alive last phase although it escapes me whether or not I did so in detail. Basically I know there are some good players on the replacements list so I wanted to see if scum would treat the slot as they did in Fire Emblem, where rabbit was killed N1 so that speed wouldn’t replace in as a towny. We’d just discussed this in Outpost a few days ago so it was fresh on my mind. If the night passed with nova alive it would have roused my suspicions considerably. Although the vig choice is perplexing and should probably be examined. I’m sure this sounds made up but I don’t care. :beer:

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:30 am
by Lunalee
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:23 am I’ve spoken to my motivation regarding keeping Nova alive last phase although it escapes me whether or not I did so in detail. Basically I know there are some good players on the replacements list so I wanted to see if scum would treat the slot as they did in Fire Emblem, where rabbit was killed N1 so that speed wouldn’t replace in as a towny. We’d just discussed this in Outpost a few days ago so it was fresh on my mind. If the night passed with nova alive it would have roused my suspicions considerably. Although the vig choice is perplexing and should probably be examined. I’m sure this sounds made up but I don’t care. :beer:
The vig chose to target an inactive. Not too uncommon, right? And since that inactive happened to be scum, I'd say it was a good choice. Why do you disagree?

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:31 am
by DharmaHelper
Ahh the "Odd choice for a kill" tell. A real "El Classico"

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:33 am
by ColinIsCool
Targeting an inactive to me seems like a dice roll. If I were a vig I’d go after people that had earned my suspicion.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:37 am
by Lunalee
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:33 am Targeting an inactive to me seems like a dice roll. If I were a vig I’d go after people that had earned my suspicion.
Okay, if you had a vig kill, who would you have targeted?

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:39 am
by ColinIsCool
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:37 am
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:33 am Targeting an inactive to me seems like a dice roll. If I were a vig I’d go after people that had earned my suspicion.
Okay, if you had a vig kill, who would you have targeted?
Bullzeye, JaggedJimmyJay, Owner

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:40 am
by ColinIsCool
In all likelihood though I probably would hesitate to use my vig power until my reads can be refined. I don’t think I ever have been a vig but that’s one where you can really fuck some stuff up.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:41 am
by Jackofhearts2005
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:31 am Ahh the "Odd choice for a kill" tell. A real "El Classico"
Does this bear out? Show me scum using this.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:43 am
by Jackofhearts2005
I'm a N1 vig kinda guy and Nova is my kinda N1 vig kill. But it wasn't me. I was busy studying. :grin:

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:45 am
by DharmaHelper
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:41 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:31 am Ahh the "Odd choice for a kill" tell. A real "El Classico"
Does this bear out? Show me scum using this.
I was mostly ball busting the "Tell" crowd again but i do recall someone in the past got me for saying that a kill that I carried out seemed "odd". I just can't recall the game it happened. I wouldn't call it a "Tell" seriously, but it's something I watched for afterwards, both to see if I was the only one who did it and to see if it actually indicated anything.

I'm meh on the whole thing.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:50 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
You guys I don't feel like playing Mafia right this moment.

Image

If anyone has motivational words I will be receptive. Otherwise I think I'll just watch.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:50 am
by DharmaHelper
Turnip Head wrote: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:10 pm Speedchuck seems like an odd choice for kill


LOL GOT EM FIREFLY MAFIA TH SAYS THE THING

I officially apologize to anyone using "tells", that's v. funny.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:55 am
by DharmaHelper
I'm tapped for the day. Deuces.

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] *Makes a big ol fart noise* Motivate that.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:03 pm
by DharmaHelper
I apologize if this has been litigated and I missed it (if so please point it out) but:

1. In Firefly Mafia, Owner scum read me in part based on a "Picture Tell" in which she said I subconciously associated with Negan and Thanos, two bad characters. Therefore I must be bad.

2. In this game, Owner scum read Kara based on a picture tell of Kara posting a Hagrid-themed comic strip. Hagrid is a good guy.



My point being, if in Firefly Owner (civ) Genuinely suspected me (civ) for being Negan/Thanos (bad dudes) that's fine because as wrong as it was, it tracks and makes sense if you accept the "Picture Tell" premise. If you accept that same premise and apply it to her Kara suspicion, its fake. She fabricated a reason to suspect Kara and the only reason to do that is if you're bad and need people to suspect.

Slam. Dunk.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:13 pm
by nutella
I'm pretty convinced that Bullzeye is our best bet so far. [VOTE: Bullzeye] aubergine

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:21 pm
by ColinIsCool
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:03 pm I apologize if this has been litigated and I missed it (if so please point it out) but:

1. In Firefly Mafia, Owner scum read me in part based on a "Picture Tell" in which she said I subconciously associated with Negan and Thanos, two bad characters. Therefore I must be bad.

2. In this game, Owner scum read Kara based on a picture tell of Kara posting a Hagrid-themed comic strip. Hagrid is a good guy.



My point being, if in Firefly Owner (civ) Genuinely suspected me (civ) for being Negan/Thanos (bad dudes) that's fine because as wrong as it was, it tracks and makes sense if you accept the "Picture Tell" premise. If you accept that same premise and apply it to her Kara suspicion, its fake. She fabricated a reason to suspect Kara and the only reason to do that is if you're bad and need people to suspect.

Slam. Dunk.
Was that Picture Tell based on the characters being good or bad? If so I’d say, add this to the pile for reasons why an Owner lynch is a good proposition.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:21 pm
by nutella
DH you've made up 3 nonsensical "tells" in the last page. Calm down pupper.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:26 pm
by nutella
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:21 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:03 pm I apologize if this has been litigated and I missed it (if so please point it out) but:

1. In Firefly Mafia, Owner scum read me in part based on a "Picture Tell" in which she said I subconciously associated with Negan and Thanos, two bad characters. Therefore I must be bad.

2. In this game, Owner scum read Kara based on a picture tell of Kara posting a Hagrid-themed comic strip. Hagrid is a good guy.



My point being, if in Firefly Owner (civ) Genuinely suspected me (civ) for being Negan/Thanos (bad dudes) that's fine because as wrong as it was, it tracks and makes sense if you accept the "Picture Tell" premise. If you accept that same premise and apply it to her Kara suspicion, its fake. She fabricated a reason to suspect Kara and the only reason to do that is if you're bad and need people to suspect.

Slam. Dunk.
Was that Picture Tell based on the characters being good or bad? If so I’d say, add this to the pile for reasons why an Owner lynch is a good proposition.
I really think DH is stretching it. Owner just thought Kara looked sketchy for posting a jokey comic instead of real content. I don't think it's comparable to the negan=bad thing. Maybe I'm wrong but I townread owner for multiple reasons so I don't see this as unreasonable.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:30 pm
by ColinIsCool
Well, that’s what the first part of the post qualifies. I don’t recall the Picture Tell being described in such a way by Owner but if it is then DH can get receipts.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:31 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Bullzeye is a fine lynch. Let's just ensure we squeeze the most we can out of Day 2 before we allow that wagon to explode.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:33 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Someone tell me why INH is a civilian.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:36 pm
by nutella
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:33 pm Someone tell me why INH is a civilian.
Who?

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:37 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
nutella wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:33 pm Someone tell me why INH is a civilian.
Who?
yeah knawmsayin

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:37 pm
by nutella
Can't recall a thing the guy has posted. That's kind of how he always is so basically NAI, but it means nothing is particularly in his favor.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:39 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
nutella wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:37 pm Can't recall a thing the guy has posted. That's kind of how he always is so basically NAI, but it means nothing is particularly in his favor.
in which I provide a link to my own grievances in hopes of aiding my good friend nutella of The Syndicate in her efforts to interpret the play of another esteemed Syndicateer by the name of insertnamehere

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:40 pm
by DharmaHelper
nutella wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:21 pm DH you've made up 3 nonsensical "tells" in the last page. Calm down pupper.
Untrue fam.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:43 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Y'all keep talking about Owner and this picture tell thing, and referencing Firefly without directly speaking to whatever connection may exist. So I allowed myself to be myself at least long enough to do your homework for you. :meany:
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:06 pm I didn't say mafia; I said scum. And for those wondering usually, I count 3p as scum. But do you guys ever get friendly 3p over here?

Tell 1: The Picture/Gif Tell (can also sometimes be called the music tell, as I use it on both pictures and music. Yes, I have in fact caught scum this way before.

DharmaHelper has used multiple Negan pictures. Subconsciously, I feel like people post pictures of villains see themselves as being the bad guys themselves. I actually did not finish watching The Walking Dead. I didn't really like Negan. Maybe if I gave him another shot he would turn out to be an alright guy, but my first impression of him made me stop watching the show. So at first, I didn't really think all too much about the Negan pictures as is it really right for me to judge Negan as I didn't take time to get to know him? But then DharmaHelper also posted a picture of Thanos. So either personally, DharmaHelper can easily relate himself to those 2 characters or subconsciously he's bad so he posts pictures of villains.
This post comes from Firefly. Do not interpret it as being a post from Hogwarts, because it is from Firefly. K.

The two highlighted portions are of interest. The picture tell is stated in somewhat general terms first, and then Owner expands to discuss the nature of DH's villanous pictures as being a potential indicator of trouble. It is unclear from this whether the picture tell as Owner knows it requires villanous content to work or if this example simply featured villanous images which fed into the story Owner developed in her read of DH.

[mention]Owner of a Lonely Heart[/mention], does the picture tell require villains to function? You said in Firefly that you've caught scum this way before -- can you remember an example game, and on what site it was played?

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:44 pm
by DharmaHelper
Yo fuck off Jay I was gonna post this shit.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:46 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:44 pm Yo fuck off Jay I was gonna post this shit.
:coffee:

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:47 pm
by DharmaHelper
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:21 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:03 pm I apologize if this has been litigated and I missed it (if so please point it out) but:

1. In Firefly Mafia, Owner scum read me in part based on a "Picture Tell" in which she said I subconciously associated with Negan and Thanos, two bad characters. Therefore I must be bad.

2. In this game, Owner scum read Kara based on a picture tell of Kara posting a Hagrid-themed comic strip. Hagrid is a good guy.



My point being, if in Firefly Owner (civ) Genuinely suspected me (civ) for being Negan/Thanos (bad dudes) that's fine because as wrong as it was, it tracks and makes sense if you accept the "Picture Tell" premise. If you accept that same premise and apply it to her Kara suspicion, its fake. She fabricated a reason to suspect Kara and the only reason to do that is if you're bad and need people to suspect.

Slam. Dunk.
Was that Picture Tell based on the characters being good or bad? If so I’d say, add this to the pile for reasons why an Owner lynch is a good proposition.
I really hate to harp on past games so much but Owner made it relevant so here's her exact words in Firefly when asked about "Picture tells"
Tell 1: The Picture/Gif Tell (can also sometimes be called the music tell, as I use it on both pictures and music. Yes, I have in fact caught scum this way before.

DharmaHelper has used multiple Negan pictures. Subconsciously, I feel like people post pictures of villains see themselves as being the bad guys themselves. I actually did not finish watching The Walking Dead. I didn't really like Negan. Maybe if I gave him another shot he would turn out to be an alright guy, but my first impression of him made me stop watching the show. So at first, I didn't really think all too much about the Negan pictures as is it really right for me to judge Negan as I didn't take time to get to know him? But then DharmaHelper also posted a picture of Thanos. So either personally, DharmaHelper can easily relate himself to those 2 characters or subconsciously he's bad so he posts pictures of villains.
Relevant parts underlined/bolded. "Subconsciously he's bad so he relates to Negan/Thanos" is the important bit there.

Compare that to "kara is picture tell read". Again, Hagrid is good, so "subconsciously [Kara] is [bad] because [she] relates to [Hagrid] doesn't track. Fakerino Suspicionato.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 1

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:47 pm
by Lunalee
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:11 pm
insertnamehere wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:06 pm Alright, I'm now caught up.

Most of the Day so far has just been two different squabbles over semantics. The whole Epi-Juliets thing has been more or less baffling in its scattershot legitimacy. It's the kind of thing that JJJ usually pushes, except with less actual substance, which makes me a tad sus of JJJ. Then there's the whole Owner/DH thing. It definitely feels like Owner is stuck replaying Firefly, while the rest of us are playing a new game. This regression could be scummy or not, depends on what else Owner decides to bring to the table. So far, I ain't impressed.
insertnamehere wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:04 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:02 pm
insertnamehere wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:06 pm Alright, I'm now caught up.

Most of the Day so far has just been two different squabbles over semantics. The whole Epi-Juliets thing has been more or less baffling in its scattershot legitimacy. It's the kind of thing that JJJ usually pushes, except with less actual substance, which makes me a tad sus of JJJ. Then there's the whole Owner/DH thing. It definitely feels like Owner is stuck replaying Firefly, while the rest of us are playing a new game. This regression could be scummy or not, depends on what else Owner decides to bring to the table. So far, I ain't impressed.
It's not a regression. It is potentially a meta thing.
Would you trust other people who have played with DH over a ton of games and have seen him as both scum and civ if they were to tell you that you were barking up the wrong tree with your meta characterization of him?
insertnamehere wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:02 pm I'm gonna drop a vote on Owner. Her efforts so far just seem disingenuous. Her "read" of DH is unjustified baloney, and her other reads are substance-less.

Hopefully I'll be able to participate more on Day 2, and I want to do some more research into JJJ and TH.

OWNER
I don't get the impression that INH was interested in learning something about Owner's motives in this progression. Instead, it looks like to me like he is giving Owner shit for pursuing an errant thread of suspicion (potentially TMI on DH, to boot) and deciding to participate in her murder when it appears viable. Indeed, the highlighted portion is key: I think his read is hardly justified on her, and his "other reads" do not exist.

[VOTE: insertnamehere] aubergine
LIKE!
But no, really. INH is doing a "game commentary" kind of deal in his posts with out any real opinions. See italicized post above.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:49 pm
by nutella
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:39 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:37 pm Can't recall a thing the guy has posted. That's kind of how he always is so basically NAI, but it means nothing is particularly in his favor.
in which I provide a link to my own grievances in hopes of aiding my good friend nutella of The Syndicate in her efforts to interpret the play of another esteemed Syndicateer by the name of insertnamehere
Right, I do remember this. He hasn't responded yet has he? It's a solid accusation.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:50 pm
by DharmaHelper
Anyway is Nutella buddying Owner or are they teammates.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:52 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
nutella wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:39 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:37 pm Can't recall a thing the guy has posted. That's kind of how he always is so basically NAI, but it means nothing is particularly in his favor.
in which I provide a link to my own grievances in hopes of aiding my good friend nutella of The Syndicate in her efforts to interpret the play of another esteemed Syndicateer by the name of insertnamehere
Right, I do remember this. He hasn't responded yet has he? It's a solid accusation.
Nope, though I don't believe he has been around yet. We shall see.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:55 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:50 pm Anyway is Nutella buddying Owner or are they teammates.
or maybe neither

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:55 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:50 pm Anyway is Nutella buddying Owner or are they teammates.
Is nutella your top mafia read?

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:55 pm
by DharmaHelper
nutella wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:21 pm DH you've made up 3 nonsensical "tells" in the last page. Calm down pupper.
Which 3
Made up how
Nonsense how

nutella wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:13 pm I'm pretty convinced that Bullzeye is our best bet so far. [VOTE: Bullzeye] aubergine
Best bet how
Pretty sure why
What's "so far" for you? Looking at anyone else?

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:56 pm
by DharmaHelper
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:55 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:50 pm Anyway is Nutella buddying Owner or are they teammates.
Is nutella your top mafia read?
No.