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by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:15 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:51 am And while I'm here at 4AM I would like to answer Epi's question:

Because that godfather play is exactly the kind of thing I would do as scum. It's a reasonable mistake ("godfathers are super powerful"in a game which makes them...
not), but it has far-reaching implications for gamestate because it lets you argue a different set of scum motivations. Assuming you're scum - and your push on Iaafr is really not winning you points in that category - you're using that to distort the gamestate and push faulty lynches.

In short, it smells like agenda and it's the kind of scumplay I would expect from someone of your apparent skill.

@Pawn Lelouch The iaafr push is bad. Like, really bad. Assume rabbit's town. Why might he have strong reason to not vote?
Because he dies if he votes. :noble:

I mean, clearly some bastard stuff in this game.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:25 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

ColinIsCool wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:51 am Jack, Epi, sprit: what do you think of Dom’s play so far? I have been waffling and never played him enough to get a good handle anyway.
I don’t. He’s barely playing.

I’ve also played with town!Dom like 10 times and wolf!Dom never so I don’t actually know how to read the guy.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:37 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:30 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:44 am
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:02 am @ColinIsCool (Rej) w
@Dom w
@Epignosis w
@Evenstar w
@iaafr v
@Jackofhearts2005 w
@Master Radishes v
@Pawn Lelouch v
@sprityo w

theres 3 town and 5 mafia and we gotta vig shot differnet ones with our powersecretvotes pew pew pew pew epw ewp
My three are Pawn, Radishes, Iaafr :haha:
Jack, your reads are so different from everyone's. That in itself is fine, but I also feel they're not progressing - isn't this the same three you had yesterday?

(a) Why Pawn?
(b) Why me?
(c) Why Rabbit?

If you've said I genuinely don't remember.
I’ve said like a dozen times.

A) Pawn because his reads are too easy. Suspect the quiet players. Suspect who Iaafr and Radishes are pushing. I don’t think he’s likely scum with you and Iaafr since he feels like a wolf satisfied to sheep wrong reads, not a wolf trying to power through.

B) Because I strongly townread Epi for his interactives yesterday and you came in and pooped all over them. Then LLD and Pawn basically agreed (which is not a good look for them but again, makes ya’ll not looked teamed, at least not all 3 of you). You also put forth a weasel worded attack on Eva. Don’t remember the details, just that you accused her of “chaos posting” when she was saying things I found reasonable.

C) His scumreads don’t make any sense from a town perspective. He’s spending so much time complaining about mechanics and spreading conspiracies that it feels wolfy. I have no idea why I appear to be the lone voice of reason here.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:42 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Generally anyone who was like “I strongly suspect Dom and Colin/Rej” sets off warning bells because those players barely said anything.

I asked for reasons for those suspicions and got one semi satisfactory answer from one out of the six or so players at the time who had those reads.

Several players going from “I suspect Nova/Colin/Dom for undisclosed or tinfoily reasons” to “I suspect Colin/Dom/Jack for undisclosed or tinfoily reasons” doesn’t make me want to flip my reads. Neither does a few “I guess Jack can be town for undisclosed reasons. Now I suspect yet another quiet Syndicate player in Sprityo.”
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:49 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Disabling linki appears to have disabled the double post flag.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:51 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

If I broke quiet players into groups they would look like

Town
Dom
Nova
Sprityo


Scum
Colin
Quin
LLD
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:06 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Pretty sure it was in fact Radishes who at least gave reasons for his suspicions D2.
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:58 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:55 pm I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.
Lol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.
Give me everything you got on Dom and Colin. Like as if your life depended on reading them correctly.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:32 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:36 pm
Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:32 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:31 pm
Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:26 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:18 pm Dom, serious question - what's your play here? If you're town, you're not building any more of a case against iaafr, you're just being a dick. And that's fine, but it's not helpful.
I suspect you, the rabbit, mac, hyena, and jack.

That's my angle.
hyena is town
iaafr is town
you're scum

jack and radishes could go either way, rn I'm leaning towards radishes
Why?
Hyena is town because I know how he plays and he's town hyena
iaafr is town because I'm mindmelding with them, and also for other reasons
you're scum because you're not playing the game and hiding that behind fake aggression while trying to buddy up to epignosis
jack is scum because he's not playing the game, but he's doing better with making his thoughts clear today
I'm tinfoiling radishes because he pushed me hard yesterday and it feels like he reversed on me a bit too quickly
Which bits?
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:33 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

sprityo wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:51 pm If I broke quiet players into groups they would look like

Town
Dom
Nova
Sprityo


Scum
Colin
Quin
LLD
3 of those people arent here jack :confused:
I’m aware but they were all here yesterday at least and are all probably still in this game.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:35 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:47 pm
sprityo wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:39 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:37 pm
Spoiler: show
Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:30 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:44 am
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:02 am @ColinIsCool (Rej) w
@Dom w
@Epignosis w
@Evenstar w
@iaafr v
@Jackofhearts2005 w
@Master Radishes v
@Pawn Lelouch v
@sprityo w

theres 3 town and 5 mafia and we gotta vig shot differnet ones with our powersecretvotes pew pew pew pew epw ewp
My three are Pawn, Radishes, Iaafr :haha:
Jack, your reads are so different from everyone's. That in itself is fine, but I also feel they're not progressing - isn't this the same three you had yesterday?

(a) Why Pawn?
(b) Why me?
(c) Why Rabbit?

If you've said I genuinely don't remember.
I’ve said like a dozen times.

A) Pawn because his reads are too easy. Suspect the quiet players. Suspect who Iaafr and Radishes are pushing. I don’t think he’s likely scum with you and Iaafr since he feels like a wolf satisfied to sheep wrong reads, not a wolf trying to power through.

B) Because I strongly townread Epi for his interactives yesterday and you came in and pooped all over them. Then LLD and Pawn basically agreed (which is not a good look for them but again, makes ya’ll not looked teamed, at least not all 3 of you). You also put forth a weasel worded attack on Eva. Don’t remember the details, just that you accused her of “chaos posting” when she was saying things I found reasonable.

C) His scumreads don’t make any sense from a town perspective. He’s spending so much time complaining about mechanics and spreading conspiracies that it feels wolfy. I have no idea why I appear to be the lone voice of reason here.
I agree with Jack's Third bullet about rabbit
I do too.
I just don't know how much I trust Jack.
I’ll do my best to mason with you later *noogies*

(This is a reference, not a claim.)
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:42 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:03 pm Jackofhearts2005 you got something on Radishes' level?
In terms of spice? Probably not.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:43 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:05 pm
sprityo wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:01 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:57 pm
sprityo wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:53 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:44 pm oh for crying out loud

okay, I'm putting a stop to this

Rabbit's hold-off on voting makes him extremely likely the doublevoter, which makes him mech town

now everybody shut up and investigate other people
tbh, i'm not following this logic, but this theory enough isnt enough to convince me to not have rabbit in my potential voting pool
if his double-vote makes the difference to lynch a scum he is NK'd every time guaranteed

if his double-vote is noticed by scum he is NK'd >50% of the time

concrete evidence of its existence makes him damn close to an IC due to the fact that "Doublevoter" is in the list of existing town roles

he just didn't bet on all the votes after D1 being anonymous and therefore being unable to mech clear himself

it fits entirely with his reckless play
Yes but explain to me how they would know he is the doublevoter?
:ponder:

... okay, you got me there.

A beautiful theory spoiled by an ugly fact.

:sigh:
Lol
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:47 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

On page 11, I think the Dom Sprityo spat reinforces my Sprityo townread and makes Dom look worse.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:45 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:51 pm If I broke quiet players into groups they would look like

Town
Dom
Nova
Sprityo


Scum
Colin
Quin
LLD
lld isn't in this group this post is ill eagle
It’s not. I never said I was considering voting these players.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:47 pm but now I am mech town and we are good. entertaining otherwise is a scumclaim. if you disagree, I want you dead anyway.
I disagree. :grin:
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:32 pm https://inception.davepedu.com

protip keep this open in another tab and press it whenever somebody posts something spicy
Thank you for this.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:58 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:53 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:32 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:36 pm
Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:32 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:31 pm
Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:26 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:18 pm Dom, serious question - what's your play here? If you're town, you're not building any more of a case against iaafr, you're just being a dick. And that's fine, but it's not helpful.
I suspect you, the rabbit, mac, hyena, and jack.

That's my angle.
hyena is town
iaafr is town
you're scum

jack and radishes could go either way, rn I'm leaning towards radishes
Why?
Hyena is town because I know how he plays and he's town hyena
iaafr is town because I'm mindmelding with them, and also for other reasons
you're scum because you're not playing the game and hiding that behind fake aggression while trying to buddy up to epignosis
jack is scum because he's not playing the game, but he's doing better with making his thoughts clear today
I'm tinfoiling radishes because he pushed me hard yesterday and it feels like he reversed on me a bit too quickly
Which bits?
this is jack, talking to evenstar about her read on me as if I shouldn't be confirmed anyway
Why should I confirm you?

Because Eva claims you’re a double voter (which you’re now confirming I guess) and also that the OP (which I can’t see) said that town double voter was on an incomplete list of roles that may or may not be in the game.

That about right? Am I missing anything?

Explain to me the difference between an incomplete list of roles that may or may not be in the game and...a random list of roles that are unrelated to this game.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:01 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:00 pm just daypass me and move on im near self resolving atp
Nobody is self resolving without flips. 🤦🏻‍♂️
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:05 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:04 pm yea I was a bit of an elitist who was on the "this shits overhyped" train

but it's a solid film I should try again I forgot almost everything about it so it's probably a good time
My wife worked at a summer camp where every group of kids (teens?) watched this movie so she watched it like 8 times in a summer and now she won’t watch it with me.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:06 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

If I go down to the next level, mislynch and then I this whole game was a dream, it will be both thematic of the movie Inception and my mafia career.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:04 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:32 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:36 pm
Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:32 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:31 pm
Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:26 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:18 pm Dom, serious question - what's your play here? If you're town, you're not building any more of a case against iaafr, you're just being a dick. And that's fine, but it's not helpful.
I suspect you, the rabbit, mac, hyena, and jack.

That's my angle.
hyena is town
iaafr is town
you're scum

jack and radishes could go either way, rn I'm leaning towards radishes
Why?
Hyena is town because I know how he plays and he's town hyena
iaafr is town because I'm mindmelding with them, and also for other reasons
you're scum because you're not playing the game and hiding that behind fake aggression while trying to buddy up to epignosis
jack is scum because he's not playing the game, but he's doing better with making his thoughts clear today
I'm tinfoiling radishes because he pushed me hard yesterday and it feels like he reversed on me a bit too quickly
Which bits?
I ended up coming around to their reads on people both D1 and D2, I can't name the specific ones off the top of my head. I think they were talking about epi being potentially scum? In any case their thought process is good and I don't see their current attitude being easily fakable. I think they're getting scumread by the syndicate contingent because their playstyle is aggressively non-syndi.

in fact my latest read chart says the following:
- iaafr is hated by syndicate people
- dom and colin are hated by non-syndicate people
- you're hated by literally everyone

which says to me that
1: the iaafr, dom and colin scumreads are all quite possibly garbage caused by clashing playstyles
2: you're blatant mislynch-bait given that absolutely nobody is sticking up for you, literally everyone has you in their bottom 3
3: I ought to be looking for scum in my middle or top tiers.

so my spicy spicy potential-scum list rn is
{Pawn, Epi, Radishes, Sprityo}

though honestly Dom keeps creeping back in just because he's been such an unjustified dick to Rabbit. :sigh:
I hear what you’re saying and you look like you’re saying “Jack is town and 2 of his bottom 3 are probably scum.”
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:10 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:05 pm my actual worldview = all syndicate = scum and they need to get my lynched somehow as part of their wincon so yea im not saner than you if we're going by conventional sensibilities here
I promise you that focusing on what should be tinfoil is doing you no favors regardless of your alignment.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:12 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

You basically keep repeating that you don’t want to work with like half the people here and then you wonder why anyone is scumreading you.

I’d post a Jackie Chan brain is full of fuck picture here but free Hong Kong and fuck Jackie Chan, too.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:18 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:14 pm I said im not responding to people's incorrect pushes that's kinda different man
As a fun little game, why don’t you iso yourself and see how often this happens.

Nobody: ...
You: I bet all the Syndicate players are scum.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:31 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Eva wrote:talk to me about my rederivation of this shitty, shitty PoE

which of my assumptions are wrong
Walk me through how Rabbit being a double voter makes Rabbit town or why a town double voter wouldn’t have voted the scumread he “obviously” secretly had.

I don’t get it.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:32 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

[mention]Evenstar[/mention]
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:30 pm I'm genuinely like pretty lost on what people want me to do here
Literally anything but homesite reads.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:35 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:29 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:28 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:26 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:23 pm y'all can act like it's a dumb tinfoil and I'll keep acting like y'all's susses of me are dumb tinfoils cuz from where I'm standing I believe in the latter far more
you gotta sell, rabbit

if you want to convince people you have to show them how they're wrong, not just insist they are
but none of them appear receptive to my way of townreading myself and just want me to defend against accusations in ways where I'd normally be quoting d1 posts

and if I think they're all scum and all the actual town are townreading me I can be satisfied with this gamestate
when have you ever played a mafia game that was that convenient
Once I played a game that allowed claiming but the host said it wouldn’t help us win but then we massclaimed and won really easily. Does that count?
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:39 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:35 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:31 pm
Eva wrote:talk to me about my rederivation of this shitty, shitty PoE

which of my assumptions are wrong
Walk me through how Rabbit being a double voter makes Rabbit town or why a town double voter wouldn’t have voted the scumread he “obviously” secretly had.

I don’t get it.
I admit this is a weak point in my case for Iaafr, but I am ok with it and still think he's town

Do you have further reasons to scumread him?
I feel like I’m getting a lot of “fair point, Jack, but I’m just gonna keep the reads I have” today. :rolleyes:
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:42 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:40 pm pushing on why I still could be scum rather than pushing on why I am is scummy, especially when I'm town
What if I pretend I think everyone not from the Syndicate is scum so I don’t have to listen to you?
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:42 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Literally Eva asked me which of her assumptions was wrong.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:16 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:11 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:06 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:05 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:02 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:01 pm ... I think it would be astonishing if a player like Grapefruit had a scumgame like mine. That's what I think, on careful review. Epi is town. And if he's not, he deserves to win.
where did grapefruit come from wtf
epi feels analytical like grapefruit21 or pawn IMO

but if he's scum he's faking a ton of emotions

these two things don't seem to jibe
which of his emotions are town-perspective and cant be genuine scum perspective emotions and/or genuine emotions sublimated into ones that pretend to be town
No, that's not the point

the point is that I think he's naturally an observer-type or analyst-type player, and therefore it's hard for him to fake emotion and he'll prefer not to do it

then there's like four pages of very heated emotions today

I don't think the emotions themselves are unfakable, if that was Hyena doing that I would lynch it instantly

but I feel like Epi specifically would have a difficult time doing that

Jackofhearts2005 you're a syndi, am I right about Epi's character here or am I blowing smoke?
Epi’s emotions don’t seem to change with alignment. I’m not the best at catching scum Epi. I do on occasion recognize town Epi and this feels like town Epi.

In particular, he cares a lot about this game and while town Epi doesn’t always fit that bill, the shits he gives feel productive and real if that makes sense.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:27 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

I’m probably putting Dom in my bottom three and removing...Radishes? Maybe.

You’d think since basically everyone but Dom and Epi have iaafr as locktiwn, someone could convince me I’m wrong but 🤷🏻‍♂️
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:29 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:35 pm I’ll do my best to mason with you later *noogies*

(This is a reference, not a claim.)
To what?
Girl Genius?
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:31 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:28 pm iaafr, I'm townreading myself.
Image
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:34 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:30 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:27 pm I’m probably putting Dom in my bottom three and removing...Radishes? Maybe.

You’d think since basically everyone but Dom and Epi have iaafr as locktiwn, someone could convince me I’m wrong but 🤷🏻‍♂️
just read my day 1 progression and dragos iso man I'm spewed af
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by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:35 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

This setup is hilarious and it’s gonna take forever since final 5 or so will have 4 lives.

Ya’ll sound like the kinda jerks who wouldn’t enjoy Chicka Chicka 1-2-3 Mafia Part 2.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:38 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Dom, in all our games together you have only ever townread me once and it took me masoning with you and then a simultaneous claim.

You scumread me. So I said I’d try to mason with you.

That’s the joke.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:35 pm This setup is hilarious and it’s gonna take forever since final 5 or so will have 4 lives.

Ya’ll sound like the kinda jerks who wouldn’t enjoy Chicka Chicka 1-2-3 Mafia Part 2.
The what now.
100 role mafia game. Only like 20 players. Upon lynch or kill, you just got a new role and alignment and wincon.

Most of the players thought this was stupid. Quin, LC, Juliets, Speedchuck and I put together a winning strategy from the very beginning and lost anyway. Funny game.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:42 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:41 pm like y'all can reread d1 in postgame and see how spewed I'm supposed to be lmao
Lol sounds like a plan.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:45 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:26 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:23 pm y'all can act like it's a dumb tinfoil and I'll keep acting like y'all's susses of me are dumb tinfoils cuz from where I'm standing I believe in the latter far more
you gotta sell, rabbit

if you want to convince people you have to show them how they're wrong, not just insist they are
Tbf, I don’t think he’s capable of convincing me I’m a wolf.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:54 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:35 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:31 pm
Eva wrote:talk to me about my rederivation of this shitty, shitty PoE

which of my assumptions are wrong
Walk me through how Rabbit being a double voter makes Rabbit town or why a town double voter wouldn’t have voted the scumread he “obviously” secretly had.

I don’t get it.
I admit this is a weak point in my case for Iaafr, but I am ok with it and still think he's town

Do you have further reasons to scumread him?
I don’t remember if I answered this.

Yeah. I think his pushes on players for scumreading him don’t make any damn sense.

Like if I’m a wolf (or if Sprityo’s a wolf or whatever), anyone but Rabbit is an easier mislynch. So why does me pushing a Rabbit make me scum?

It should be the opposite. A wolf that sees a hard to lynch townie with a stupid tunnel should just let that happen or if they’re one of the several players being tunneled, just focus on outrunning the friend instead of the bear.

I don’t get why town!Rabbit omgus tunnels anyone who voiced suspicion of him.

There are lots of little things that bug me like going along with the double voter thing, saying he’ll self resolve when there are no flips, saying he’s spewed by D1 posts we can’t see and pushing away suspicion by saying anyone that suspects him is scumclaiming. I’m not sure how much of that is trolling tbf.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:45 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:26 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:23 pm y'all can act like it's a dumb tinfoil and I'll keep acting like y'all's susses of me are dumb tinfoils cuz from where I'm standing I believe in the latter far more
you gotta sell, rabbit

if you want to convince people you have to show them how they're wrong, not just insist they are
Tbf, I don’t think he’s capable of convincing me I’m a wolf.
like how am i supposed to read this other than "im a wolf but this guys so incoherent he couldnt even case me"
You’re supposed to read it as a joke.

Eva said: “If you want to convince people you have to show them how they're wrong, not just insist they are.”

Eva meant: “If you want to convince people that you are town, you have to show them how they're wrong, not just insist they are.”

I acted like I thought Eva meant: “If you want to convince people that they are wolves, you have to show them how they're wrong, not just insist they are.”

You can’t convince anyone of their alignment (unless you are goat Jack) because they have a role pm from the host telling them what their real alignment is.

That’s the joke.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:02 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:56 pm also jack youre not even in my bottom tier
Oh in that case, never mind. You don’t have to hunt if you aren’t in Rabbit’s bottom tier after all.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:03 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:03 pm unnecessary sarcastic quips every third post = endearing personality, amirite
😘
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:04 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:03 pm Jack-- it's not worth it.
I love you both and am enjoying myself.
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:37 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:51 pm sorry my tongue is not as silver as the Elite Company you keep who apparently can regularly convince town that theyre wolves

this is the literal implication i am battling unless you admit you just perspective slipped and just painted yourself as scum which you wont
I convinced a townie I had recruited him into a cult that didn’t exist once. Forever my greatest accomplishment. :feb:
by Jackofhearts2005
Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:42 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:40 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:37 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:51 pm sorry my tongue is not as silver as the Elite Company you keep who apparently can regularly convince town that theyre wolves

this is the literal implication i am battling unless you admit you just perspective slipped and just painted yourself as scum which you wont
I convinced a townie I had recruited him into a cult that didn’t exist once. Forever my greatest accomplishment. :feb:
i wouldve fake claimed at least twice in this game by now if i couldve
:biggrin:
by Jackofhearts2005
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:28 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

I don’t understand why anyone in this game suspects me.

I’ve heard one reason for me being suspected today and it’s that Epi doesn’t think I have original thoughts, which is a damn silly thing to say as everyone else is complaining that my reads are too counter to the consensus.
by Jackofhearts2005
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:29 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 32532

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

So as usual, there is scum on my wagon. Except my wagon is like most of the players so...

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