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juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:24 pm @MacDougall and @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, hello. I'm curious why you have voted for 112. I didn't see anything in your posts so far that tells me but maybe I missed something.

I voted for the person who was at the top of the list.

Who is the towniest player on day 1 I need to sheep them. Sorry I overstocked on games.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:34 pm Who is the towniest player on day 1 I need to sheep them. Sorry I overstocked on games.
How about we solve this together?

I'll be the savant who only has to look at clues and make snap decisions and you can do all the work.

Okay MP just like ping me when you have questions.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:59 pm
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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:57 pm MP7 reads list thingy

Town for now -- [would never lynch right now]
112
Epignosis
Scirrus

Town lean -- [would prefer not to lynch]
juliets
Nanook

Upper POE -- [would passively consider lynch]
Dyslexicon
Long Con
MacDougall
nova

Lower POE -- [would actively consider lynch]
DrWilgy
Funnygurl
Jack
Sloonei
Soneji

@MacDougall, do you find any of these particularly disagreeable? Let's talk.

I have read no posts except for basically the people who have directly quoted my own shitty posts

... 6 hours later

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:41 am Also MP’s list is almost a mirror of mine except with sloonei lower I think so I’m gonna pretend that makes him lock town.

Happy to sheep you both frankly.

Well that was silly

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:22 pm That really sucked, I'm sorry I wasn't less distracted to try to prevent the tie result, and I didn't know that was going to happen until others pointed it out.

With that said, I realize I got a bit OMGUSy and heated myself. I'm sorry Wilgy because I was probably tunneling you and I just wanted to save Sloonei. Fwiw I still don't know what planet LC is playing this game on, lol, and I do not at all mean that in a bad way, but I'm sorry if I frustrated you. I was going to respond to your post about the Wilgy thing, but if you go back and read around those posts I quoted, I was the first one to talk about him, so I don't understand your interpretation at all?

I'll need some time away anyway to do other things, but it'll allow for digging upon my return. See you all whenever.

You were meant to give me some stuff to work with and then didn't lol.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:26 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:22 pm That really sucked, I'm sorry I wasn't less distracted to try to prevent the tie result, and I didn't know that was going to happen until others pointed it out.

With that said, I realize I got a bit OMGUSy and heated myself. I'm sorry Wilgy because I was probably tunneling you and I just wanted to save Sloonei. Fwiw I still don't know what planet LC is playing this game on, lol, and I do not at all mean that in a bad way, but I'm sorry if I frustrated you. I was going to respond to your post about the Wilgy thing, but if you go back and read around those posts I quoted, I was the first one to talk about him, so I don't understand your interpretation at all?

I'll need some time away anyway to do other things, but it'll allow for digging upon my return. See you all whenever.
You were meant to give me some stuff to work with and then didn't lol.
I thought I pinged you at least once or twice? But you're right I got tied up closer to EoD and it left off my radar.

Yeah you gave me a readslist and said "do you disagree with any of this" but like I haven't read anything so like ... what am I meant to do, lie?

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine kind of want to push here for a bit.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:02 am [VOTE: tonystarkprime] aubergine

“Tunnels are a thing” = “I know this is wrong, but...”

Would lynch off this read

[VOTE: tonybarkbark] aubergine

Did Juliets sub out for Sprityo?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:54 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:51 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:10 pm should we just thunderdome sloonei and the doc or is infolynching bad?
Can we burn 112 for this post please?

[VOTE: 112] aubergine
@MacDougall, what do you feel about this?

I can see the sense in it. Why are you so irate at it?

So I am gonna angle shoot and say that Juliets subbed out because she randed mafia and hates it and we should probably lynch Sprityo because of that.

I think 112 is town with at least one mafia voting there right now.

I think we are looking at the mafia version of M Plus 7 here personally. I can sense the mania of mafia MP in his play.

Sloonei you are voting with TSP. Last time I checked you were voting ON TSP. Do you care about that at all?

112 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:59 am I think I've played one game with scum!mac but don't recall how he played in it. But he's been a much more vocal force early on in town games I've played with him.

I was mafia in inception and vocal. Content volume is not an alignment indicator for me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 10:09 pm This game will be the best game in the history of mafia. People keep saying to me, "Escape From Trump Tower" is the best game.

I am not reading Sloonei's ISO and locking him town off this.

Wilgy is mafia btw.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:39 pm I think 112 is town with at least one mafia voting there right now.
Why?

I think 112 is town because I read their posts and find them townie. The post that MP quoted that made him want to burn 112 was also just a random vulnerable thought made manifest that MP jumped on. I dunno what's happened since then but if that's why she has three votes then y'all wagon is bad. I think there is a HIGH af likelihood of one of MP/TSP being maphier.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:33 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:54 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:51 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:10 pm should we just thunderdome sloonei and the doc or is infolynching bad?
Can we burn 112 for this post please?

[VOTE: 112] aubergine
@MacDougall, what do you feel about this?
I can see the sense in it. Why are you so irate at it?
Because what if Sloonei and Wilgy are both town? Info lynching is awful.

What other reasons do you have to be voting for 112 right now?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:40 pm I think we are looking at the mafia version of M Plus 7 here personally. I can sense the mania of mafia MP in his play.

Sloonei you are voting with TSP. Last time I checked you were voting ON TSP. Do you care about that at all?
Elaborate on that please.

The thing about sensing things in people is that you can't elaborate on them. I can put it into other words for you though.

I have come to consider voluminous content as a hallmark of MP's play regardless of alignment. The differentiator to me isn't the volume it's whether MP has moments of mania, or perhaps a better word would be stressposting. I feel like you stresspost less when you are town. I feel like when you are town you are much more stoic. I have seen you stressposting in this game more than I can consider justifiable.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:44 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:39 pm I think 112 is town with at least one mafia voting there right now.
Why?
I think 112 is town because I read their posts and find them townie. The post that MP quoted that made him want to burn 112 was also just a random vulnerable thought made manifest that MP jumped on. I dunno what's happened since then but if that's why she has three votes then y'all wagon is bad. I think there is a HIGH af likelihood of one of MP/TSP being maphier.
I jumped on it because it bothered me, how is that not clear?

What part of my post made it seem like that was unclear to me? I would suggest that the post was disproportionate to the level of "bother" that justifies you voting there and two other players following your vote including one who was actually voting on the other. I don't think 112 is a good lynch. I have played more with 112 than anyone here. You should just go with it.

I think you should ISO TSP and tell me if you're still comfortable voting alongside him.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:51 pm Not to mention *gestures at everything happening nationally right now* and yes I am stressed.

This is going to be an all time post if you flip Mafia.

"Remember that time that MP ..."

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm I do not have any reason to to suspect MP at this time.

Naww Sloonei reverted to his usual self when Mac started Maccing. I like this. You can be town.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:44 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:39 pm I think 112 is town with at least one mafia voting there right now.
Why?
I think 112 is town because I read their posts and find them townie. The post that MP quoted that made him want to burn 112 was also just a random vulnerable thought made manifest that MP jumped on. I dunno what's happened since then but if that's why she has three votes then y'all wagon is bad. I think there is a HIGH af likelihood of one of MP/TSP being maphier.
I didn’t realize tony was also on 112. I thought it was just MP and I and hardly considered that to be a wagon, especially this early in the day. Meh. I agree with MP’s take on the “thunderdome” post, but I’ll grant that she was not making an outright recommendation we follow that course. Day 2 is not Day 1, do we should not bind ourselves to what happened then.

In answer to your other question: I give no shits at all if I am voting alongside a player I had previously voted for, especially at this stage in the game.

We can unpack that post more if you want. I think it's fair to think that there is a high likelihood of one of you or Wilgy being Mafia based purely on wagonomics. So the idea of going back to that well is fair from that perspective. Particularly if you don't have a preference between the two. I personally would just like to lynch Wilgy today because I think he is mafia. I actually think 112 suspects Wilgy and framed a return to that well in a way that she thought would be agreeable to people but in actuality has triggered MP and Sloobot.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:44 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:39 pm I think 112 is town with at least one mafia voting there right now.
Why?
I think 112 is town because I read their posts and find them townie. The post that MP quoted that made him want to burn 112 was also just a random vulnerable thought made manifest that MP jumped on. I dunno what's happened since then but if that's why she has three votes then y'all wagon is bad. I think there is a HIGH af likelihood of one of MP/TSP being maphier.
I didn’t realize tony was also on 112. I thought it was just MP and I and hardly considered that to be a wagon, especially this early in the day. Meh. I agree with MP’s take on the “thunderdome” post, but I’ll grant that she was not making an outright recommendation we follow that course. Day 2 is not Day 1, do we should not bind ourselves to what happened then.

In answer to your other question: I give no shits at all if I am voting alongside a player I had previously voted for, especially at this stage in the game.
We can unpack that post more if you want. I think it's fair to think that there is a high likelihood of one of you or Wilgy being Mafia based purely on wagonomics. So the idea of going back to that well is fair from that perspective. Particularly if you don't have a preference between the two. I personally would just like to lynch Wilgy today because I think he is mafia. I actually think 112 suspects Wilgy and framed a return to that well in a way that she thought would be agreeable to people but in actuality has triggered MP and Sloobot.
Can you expand on the wagonomics bit? Why can't it be v/v?

It can be, I just think that it is more likely to have just ended in a lynch if it was v/v. To end exactly in a tie indicates that there were votes that occurred to create that outcome as opposed to the random chaos that would occur in a v/v lynch which would usually just end in someone getting lynched. If a v/v lynch ends in a tie it benefits town also, so Mafia would not want that as much as village would. It would be a failing on all parties. I don't get the impression that when 100% of the game would benefit from a lynch it would not occur.

It's also possible that the tie was created because it was a w/w lynch and it was the only way they could prevent a wolf lynch entirely tbh. Unlikely but worthy of thought.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:04 pm A reason I was asking people about Wilgy's play in Corrupt too (didn't you play this, @MacDougall?) is because I was trying to get a sense of if there was a comparison to the way he was playing here, and I don't really feel like I ever got input there.

I haven't analysed him closely enough but Wilgy does seem to have a meta of "posts slightly more when Mafia".

I want to look at this Jack kill a bit more. It doesn't make a load of sense to me. Like it almost feels more likely to be a vig shot than a mafia kill.

I just read his iso and he really did nothing. He pushed Sloonei quite mildly but said he wanted to switch off to Wilgy at EOD and missed the deadline so I can't imagine he's shot for being on Sloonei's ass. He also pushed LC a bit, I can see a team where LC is a senior member maybe fear killing Jack.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:05 pm [VOTE: SCIRRUS] aubergine

Actually let's feel this out for now. I need more people to talk about this person.

Dude I asked you to ISO TSP. Why you go to Scirrus instead of doing that?

Forget what I said about TSP. That boy is town.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:28 pm Hello all. My name is DrWilgy and I AM YOUR FATHER.

Pleasure to meat you

I don't want to be that guy. But this off brand opening post means Wilgy is mafia.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] [mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] I see that you have issues with the juliets/sprityo slot. I also have issue. Can you extrapolate on why you have issue?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:18 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:17 pm LC that wasn’t when I was scum. Facepalm.
Whoops, really I might have got mixed up between games there. Then I mean the opposite of what I said, I was looking for whether it was evidence you are Civ or that you are bad.

You absolutely will find evidence of him doing it as mafia if you dig deeper. It's NAI for him. He posts lots and both alignments and he said "gee I couldn't do this as mafia" as both alignments.

It's kind of weird how much meta I have on MP.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:21 pm I can't ISO anyone right now, Mac, sorry. I'm failing at multitasking as it is. I'm just trying to stick around a bit longer to respond to you all and start things. I'm trying to broaden the lines of discussion.

My next priority when I'm not multitasking hard is to ISO TSP, juliets/sprityo, Wilgy, and Scirrus at a minimum. I'd like to peek at 112 too and see if I'm just being overly tinfoily or something.

Why did you change your mind on TSP? Actually you don't have to answer if you don't want I'll ISO him later anyway.

At first glance of his ISO I thought that it was thin but when I read the posts it all just seems on point. Thin but relevant observations. Also tunneling juliets on day 1 isn't something I tend to see Mafia do much.

I'm gonna angleshoot again and say Wilgy would have posted post day 1 if he was Mafia.

The light theme appears to still be fine

Scirrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:51 pm I honestly don't know why I feel so good about Mac but I do

Is it not because we read 112 the same or something? Odd little post buddeh.

I'm gonna try on d3 so if you'd rather me not do that I think you should NK me

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:23 pm MP is here to make civilian lynches happen.

Sloonei is here to make civilian lynches happen.

Keep that in mind.

Let's just do what he says for a change.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:21 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:23 pm MP is here to make civilian lynches happen.

Sloonei is here to make civilian lynches happen.

Keep that in mind.
Let's just do what he says for a change.
Lazy.

What's the point of this?

[VOTE: MP7] aubergine

Oi you know I am town

alright let's lynch Sloobot fuck it

It's high time that you guys suspect me god damn it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:18 pm alright let's lynch Sloobot fuck it

The greatest post I have ever made.

I think it's pretty obvious that I am the only person truly cleared off this aside from Wilgy.

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