The Syndicate

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:06 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:37 pm Lol zomg it's so funny how those baddies tickled lily to frame me teehee you silly wolfies are so tricksy and cute.

how would that have framed you, I dont recall her saying anything about you in the first place (could very easily double check this, will not be doing that)

then again maybe I should since she was the nk

but also n1 nk analysis is ass

but its also short maybe I just should

sounds like a problem for tomorrow's porscha

Okay I know I said that but I didnt actually expect silence since then

I'm bored so I voted neon. Maybe something will happen. Anything

Please

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:39 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:12 pm The gimmicks are making it impossible for me to formulate a town core because I can not separate the gimmicks and my feelings about them cause I'm dumb stupid.

I kinda feel the same way.

I'm wondering if a few people are cursed or something with Love and Happiness or something like that. Or maybe not cursed, blessed would be more like it.

I had no real feel for Lily, the only game I played with her was GOC, and I don't know that we ever interacted.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:08 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:41 pm Zomg I know they're like super adorable and lovely but SVS is probably one of those scw's (super cute woofs). Woof woof SVS.

explain svs

'

Yeah, do that.

Although the more I read the more I think there are some kind of shenanigans going on. Like the ghost of rondo is haunting Mac and Kate.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:06 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:37 pm Lol zomg it's so funny how those baddies tickled lily to frame me teehee you silly wolfies are so tricksy and cute.

how would that have framed you, I dont recall her saying anything about you in the first place (could very easily double check this, will not be doing that)

I searched her posts for "mac" and there were only 7. Three quoted posts with his name in them, one was a joke.

Otherwise, in one she voted for him, in another she just wasn't feeling it, and this was the third:

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:04 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:16 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:11 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:58 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:54 am [VOTE: mac] aubergine

explain yourself

just not feeling it with mac rn lol

are you able to explain why you think mac hero votes nutella just to double down on the vote after nutella actually posts

how is that a hero vote? fmpov mac is blatantly pushing a villager and getting 0 pushback while others pile on. I don't get the nutella vote at all and it just looks like Mac is openwolfing

Personally, I think if someone wanted to kill Mac on day one, they would have just killed Mac, rather than killed someone who voted him but not over aggressively, to then frame that person for killing Mac, lol. It wasn't like either of them was universally being townread or anything.

Yeah that's a good point. I dont really think lily was killed cuz of whatever she said about mac (I didnt even remember what she had said to me about him lol) but maybe its towny for mac to over focus on himself about it? Then again, he could have felt pressured by what lily said and nkd her and then come into today claiming it was to frame him. But I dont really think mac would feel pressure from lily there to even make that play if hes wolfing tbh

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:58 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:44 pm [VOTE: Seanzie ] aubergine

good work team

You know, I don't think you've explained any suspicion on me and yet you keep doing IMO rather wolfy "sean is wolf" posts.

From your ISO, the best idea I can get as to why you are voting me here is that you had a dream I submitted a NK in the thread.

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Thanks for the clear.

Sean: accuses ppl of wolfing and votes them without giving reason

Also sean: omg you didnt even explain ur vote on me. Must be wolf

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:01 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:12 am

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:46 pm I feel like we should be listening to nutella. Does anyone else feel that way?

is... is this... a pocket attempt? lol

it feels so pushy and nutella as of this post has made 1 post? what is there to listen to?

It feels less like a pocket attempt, and instead more like two of the people most deserving of love in the thread hugging each other.

So you sr kate here?

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:16 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:12 am

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:46 pm I feel like we should be listening to nutella. Does anyone else feel that way?

is... is this... a pocket attempt? lol

it feels so pushy and nutella as of this post has made 1 post? what is there to listen to?

She made a lot of posts yesterday and her exasperation at EOD seemed deeply honest.

But perhaps there is a difference between tr'ing nutella and saying we should all listen to her because ?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:24 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:58 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:44 pm [VOTE: Seanzie ] aubergine

good work team

You know, I don't think you've explained any suspicion on me and yet you keep doing IMO rather wolfy "sean is wolf" posts.

From your ISO, the best idea I can get as to why you are voting me here is that you had a dream I submitted a NK in the thread.

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Thanks for the clear.

No. It started as a vague bad vibe that exaggerated into a tunnel, but various threadstate things around my sus of you suggest I am right. If you're not a wolf Mac has to be but idt he is rn. You have done absolutely nothing towny and other people have so I'm just doubling down.

What's the connection between diff check on sean and mac? I get that both have pushed you, but so you believe that at least 1 of them has to be wolf just because of this? Probs not diff check then

I'm not finished catching up so maybe I'll change my mind later when I'm back but I dont particularly believe mac or sean has to be wolfing just because of their pushes on nutella but if she is right and 1 of them is a wolf, I think I'd say its sean over mac rn just because I agree with svs on the whole nk thing too - it doesnt make a lot of sense for mac (not that he doesnt have other partners, but from his pov) to nk lily who only applied a small amount of pressure but then leave nutella, who applied similar pressure, alive to be like "hurr nutella did this to frame me" as a means of voting her out because it's almost too obvious

And to be clear I'm really not SR'ing sean here, I think he is within his town range (and possible wolf range?) atm, but in a way that with more pressure could break him open or turn him into shiny town diamond sean. Like it's a shallow puddle of town range sean but I dont think its past being fakeable atm. Sean do you think you've done anything that's outside of your wolf range atm?

Ah but I see votes and nutella has her vote on neon ( :sunlgasses: ) so I'll see that later

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:54 pm @MacDougall what I was more trying to ask is what do you find about SVS that is scummy because in Cosmere she was mostly afk wolfing after D1/D2 (iirc) and I didn't find her in my spec chat escapades with Scotty so I feel like I'm down to sr her being normal because I don't have a better baseline

@Dennis feel free to chime in here too

so you are calling svs wolfing as "normal"? as a basis to go off of? doesnt make sense

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:42 am *pokes thread with a stick*

ow! watch where you stick that thing

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:33 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:29 pm so if nutella is not green checked can we go back to just killing her plz?

Can you explain it to me please?

Real life got in the way of mafia and I'm feeling lost in Like 3 of the 5 games I'm in and it's very annoying to not understand what's going on

it's possible nutella is green checked, in this case it would be bad to kill her even though she's clearly a wolf

what is this crackhead take

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:56 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:53 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:42 am *pokes thread with a stick*

ow! watch where you stick that thing

Soz,

where is your head at?

I think I left it in the sock drawer (i'm like 8 pages behind and working on it atm soz)

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:11 pm I want to kill Falcon.

I had feelings on Falcon that are gone now.

But I don't feel strong feelings in either direction why do you think scum?

oh lol so he was towny enough for you to shamelessly sheep him yesterday but now that he has posted nothing today, it's back to neutral?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:29 pm Falcon Kate TSP is the new hotness let's go

wow that's quite the list of hotness (derogatory)
I dont feel like falcon has done much ai
kate, like, sure, I guess. a read can be made there
tsp? t s p? tony stark potato? how you make a read there?

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:47 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:29 pm Falcon Kate TSP is the new hotness let's go

Huh?

ok glad it wasn't just me

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:48 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Tell me about WWA? I do not like their push on me when what they're suspecting me over could easily be cleared up by like 75% of the people in the game, and instead of doing anything to find them, they've just resigned to not do anything the rest of the game.

throw tomato and boo until one of the comedians, in a fit of rage, rips off their stage suit and reveals a wolf underneath?

what do you mean?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:54 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:19 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:00 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:08 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:06 pm [VOTE: TSP] aubergine love ya' buddy!

surely this is because of ... tsp activity?

I couldn't remember a single thing TSP had done, so it seemed like a natural place to start.

bruh cmon it's 2023

You're right, it is 2023, and the fact that we're still using imperial units in the US is a travesty, so THAT is why I'm voting TSP. MG is my top town.

who is MG

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:55 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:06 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:05 pm :3 I am so silly and happy to be here with you all !!! Insert colon three emoticon here

found nutella's wolf teammate! hahahaha got uuuu

mac I swear to god I will policy you

I would vote Mac. I do not get the feeling that they have any desire to lead town, whereas based on how I've been feeling and other people have echoed, we are lacking a strong town leader.

ok I just spent a dummy amount of time t rying to search for a quote i'm like SO sure exists but I could not find it in the 2 iso's I thought it would be in and couldn't find by control f'ing like every page of the game so now I'm wondering if i'm delusional. I could have sworn someone(s) made a comment about how the threadstate was ripe for power wolfing earlier

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:25 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:20 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:17 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:48 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Tell me about WWA? I do not like their push on me when what they're suspecting me over could easily be cleared up by like 75% of the people in the game, and instead of doing anything to find them, they've just resigned to not do anything the rest of the game.

throw tomato and boo until one of the comedians, in a fit of rage, rips off their stage suit and reveals a wolf underneath?

what do you mean?

WWA resigned themselves to voting me without cause for the rest of the day* not game, sorry. But regardless it is bad.

Also, Re: your purple: did you actually look at the WWA case on me and why I have issues with it? I feel like you know me well enough that you should be defending me here. Why aren't you?

I dont remember what the case was but i'll go look

also I had made a post at you earlier but idk if you responded to it? I didn't @ you

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:46 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:35 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:28 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:24 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:20 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:55 am imagine sitting here waiting for people to show up

i dont have to!

I'm sorry that you've had to wolf so many times so recently.

is this an accusation?

sean has been accusing p much everyone

so not rly

I'm trying to figure out why he's throwing out so many scumreads when I'm pretty sure he threw out both scumreads and townreads early on in the last game.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:50 am Like at first I thought it was to get reactions out of people, but if Seanzie makes it so obvious that he's doing it, it's not going to get reactions out of people
So i don't understand the purpose of it and I also don't believe he believes all of what he's said.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:36 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:07 am After the rainbows and sunshine Day Zero, I'm having issues seeing anyone as sinister tbh. Hrm.

Could be Sean is trying to not so much get reactions from people whose names he throws out, but reactions from other people reactions to the suspicion, and to him making it, if that makes sense.

I think it makes sense. Maybe.

Either that or its the classic "throw shit and see what sticks" ploy. So far I''m leaning the first.

That's a fair point

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:40 pm I feel like I'm being counterproductive by further splitting votes but

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I don't have any super good leads, sorry, and I know Seanzie said he isn't playing at the effort level he put into champs practice, but "vibes" or "gut" or whatever says he feels a bit off, not based on activity (it's a holiday weekend, people be busy) but just that his posts feel lacking in solving energy. And I don't think I'm the only one who noticed this.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:19 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:02 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:25 am tee hee lily said I was mafia and voted me ergo died to frame me and it was nutella who did it

svs is just wolfish @Kate agrees

Seanzie is just spewed woof by Nutella tee hee

Other way around, frand.

You're spewing nutella wolf? Lol

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:20 am Whatever, im sticking with keeping my vote where it was yesterday. Seanzie, you haven't convinced me youre town.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:12 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:21 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:20 am Whatever, im sticking with keeping my vote where it was yesterday. Seanzie, you haven't convinced me youre town.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Honestly I don't feel like you're looking for town!Seanzie.

I'm not, because I think there's a lack of what I saw in the champs practice game and that's good enough for me.

these are the posts I can see why you would not really like them. but do you think she is using your self-provided reasoning for playing differently against you as an opportunistic endeavor? or that she agrees that you are playing differently and can't reconcile that with how she knows town sean can play?

please hold. I have more thoughts on other posts. your call is important to us.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:29 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:28 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:25 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:20 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:17 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:48 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Tell me about WWA? I do not like their push on me when what they're suspecting me over could easily be cleared up by like 75% of the people in the game, and instead of doing anything to find them, they've just resigned to not do anything the rest of the game.

throw tomato and boo until one of the comedians, in a fit of rage, rips off their stage suit and reveals a wolf underneath?

what do you mean?

WWA resigned themselves to voting me without cause for the rest of the day* not game, sorry. But regardless it is bad.

Also, Re: your purple: did you actually look at the WWA case on me and why I have issues with it? I feel like you know me well enough that you should be defending me here. Why aren't you?

I dont remember what the case was but i'll go look

also I had made a post at you earlier but idk if you responded to it? I didn't @ you

Are you caught up?

no

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:36 am Dennis
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
Kate
MacDougall
Neon
nutella
Porscha
pyxxy
S~V~S
TonyStarkPrime
WindwardAway

I tried to make a readslist to help me sort my thoughts, but honestly I had a hard time breaking even one person away. I'm not sure what this means.

Whoops All Alphabetical

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:36 am Dennis
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
Kate
MacDougall
Neon
nutella
Porscha
pyxxy
S~V~S
TonyStarkPrime
WindwardAway

I tried to make a readslist to help me sort my thoughts, but honestly I had a hard time breaking even one person away. I'm not sure what this means.

Whoops All Alphabetical

in all seriousness there isn't even a couple people who you feel are likely town? I feel like enough content has been generated you should be able to?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:15 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:40 am I have had a quiet Sean/Wind dichotomy rolling around since mid d1. Idr why but it feels right

I'm perfectly fine with doming Seanzie if you want us to be wagons for today
If Sean actually flips town then I'll just suck it and flip tomorrow but I genuinely do not get why I should think he's town

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:19 pm Vibing is fun and solving is fun but I'm just sitting on a wolf!Seanzie take and not really solving any further, I'm completely aware of that and frankly I'm fine with doing so

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:00 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:21 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:18 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:17 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:44 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:21 am There is at least one wolf in Neon/Lily.

That's also my thought but idk how confident I am in it, probably less than you

hmmm

Oh thanks for reminding me lily flipped town
I was thinking one of those two names was gonna flip wolf with Seanzie
So I guess I'll look at neon again if Seanzie flips wolf which he probably will, if he doesn't, oh well

Would you look at neon if seanzie flips town though bc spoiler I definitely would

I would look at Neon regardless of Seanzie's flip tbh but especially if Seanzie flips town

Actually maybe I retract the "especially if Seanzie flips town" part
Neon was in my PoE anyway

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:57 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:06 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:12 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:21 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:20 am Whatever, im sticking with keeping my vote where it was yesterday. Seanzie, you haven't convinced me youre town.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Honestly I don't feel like you're looking for town!Seanzie.

I'm not, because I think there's a lack of what I saw in the champs practice game and that's good enough for me.

I meantioned in Champs practice that I was playing in a specific way, I mentioned here that I was playing Champs practice in a specific way, at yet you don't bother to verify this at all and instead scumread me for percieved differences without being willing to reconsider? What am I to make of that?

One of your early "differences" was that in Champs practice I did both scumreads and townreads early. It actually use to be a scumtell for me to state townreads, and I still often don't bother to townhunt as town, so your understanding of me is way off, and you have plenty of people in the thread that know me better than you do to help shape your understanding.

Yes I do, and other people (nutella) also said you're not towny so it verifies my opinion.
Idc, I'll happily thunderdome you today.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:11 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Mac should die first.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:14 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:12 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:11 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Mac should die first.

What did you see?

A very reasonably structured post with the tone and reaction i was expecting to come more likely from town!Seanzie
So congrats, that's a point in your favor

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:20 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:48 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Tell me about WWA? I do not like their push on me when what they're suspecting me over could easily be cleared up by like 75% of the people in the game, and instead of doing anything to find them, they've just resigned to not do anything the rest of the game.

This is 100% true I was completely not gonna bother trying to find any towny posts by you cause I hadn't seen any up to that point but I've seen one or two now

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:31 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:17 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:14 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:12 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:11 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Mac should die first.

What did you see?

A very reasonably structured post with the tone and reaction i was expecting to come more likely from town!Seanzie
So congrats, that's a point in your favor

... everything you just said actually usually more describes my scum play.

My normal town modus operandi is to cover myself with large amounts of fresh meat, and then stand in the middle of a field yelling, and then look around at everyone to see who is 1. wolf taking the bait, 2. town genuinely just hungry for steak, 3. wolves shying away from me in weird ways because they know I'm trying to bait then, and 4. town shying away from me because they know they can watch and find people who satisfy 1 and 3 around me.

It is not reasonably structured, but it is effective.

Yes, but the reaction you had to my tunneling you is decently convincing. I like reading people off of direct interaction if I don't have enough evidence otherwise. I'll push and I'll be argumentative if I think it's going to net me a solid read by the time I'm done.

I might be a little biased here but I generally get the idea that wwa is not only:
1) making a read that probably makes sense to someone who doesnt play with you often
2) making it obvious and well known she is sr'ing you to the point of considering thunderdoming with you at various points
3) acknowledges that the read was stubborn but shared it anyway
4) includes other reads like on neon that she establishes are separate from you
5) sees a post that reminds her of the town sean she has seen and then changes her read

so unless the post(s) she tr'd you for are ones you don't believe she should tr you for, then where is your biggest issue? I read the tone as really genuine because she chose to make the arguments against you relentlessly while also realizing it didn't really put her in a good light. and even put a pretty big spotlight on you two. what good does it bring a wolf who was in a comfortable position to want to thunderdome in that scenario? I don't think (and i absolutely could be wrong here, i;ve only played with wwa like no more than t wice) that wwa would make a big gambit like that - for reasons I can't even begin to comprehend either

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:43 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:37 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:36 am Dennis
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
Kate
MacDougall
Neon
nutella
Porscha
pyxxy
S~V~S
TonyStarkPrime
WindwardAway

I tried to make a readslist to help me sort my thoughts, but honestly I had a hard time breaking even one person away. I'm not sure what this means.

Whoops All Alphabetical

in all seriousness there isn't even a couple people who you feel are likely town? I feel like enough content has been generated you should be able to?

Yeah, no. I stared at the players list and had trouble.

I am seriously worried about the gamestate. I am not completely sure about how to resolve this, but it is a thing.

any sr's? I see youre on mac rn, is it something you actually believe in? why are you voting mac?

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:13 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:48 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Tell me about WWA? I do not like their push on me when what they're suspecting me over could easily be cleared up by like 75% of the people in the game, and instead of doing anything to find them, they've just resigned to not do anything the rest of the game.

WWAs reason to push you might not be the best I'm not sure what it is. But I do not think that WWA as a wolf just basically straight up admits to tunneling you and only you all phase and being unwilling to look anywhere else until you die.

That just doesn't vibe wolfy to me.

ran into this. agree with neon as a tl;dr to my post except the first line. cuz I specifically think it's towny

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:19 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:19 pm Also @TonyStarkPrime I didn't say I suspected her for "gamestate". I suspect her for the stuff she has said.

No the issue is I kinda think you’re a wolf


I agree that that’s why she’s suspicious

mmmmmmm okay so this implies you are sr'ing them both and therefore believe svs at this time with her vote was bussing.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:17 am @Porscha did you ever catch up?

there's 8 pages and i'm doing other things too so no i'm not done

and I spent like half an hour reading wwa iso and trying to find other posts with exclusively you taking up my reading time

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:02 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:56 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:15 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:40 am I have had a quiet Sean/Wind dichotomy rolling around since mid d1. Idr why but it feels right

I'm perfectly fine with doming Seanzie if you want us to be wagons for today
If Sean actually flips town then I'll just suck it and flip tomorrow but I genuinely do not get why I should think he's town

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:19 pm Vibing is fun and solving is fun but I'm just sitting on a wolf!Seanzie take and not really solving any further, I'm completely aware of that and frankly I'm fine with doing so

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:00 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:21 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:18 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:17 pm

hmmm

Oh thanks for reminding me lily flipped town
I was thinking one of those two names was gonna flip wolf with Seanzie
So I guess I'll look at neon again if Seanzie flips wolf which he probably will, if he doesn't, oh well

Would you look at neon if seanzie flips town though bc spoiler I definitely would

I would look at Neon regardless of Seanzie's flip tbh but especially if Seanzie flips town

Actually maybe I retract the "especially if Seanzie flips town" part
Neon was in my PoE anyway

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:57 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:06 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:12 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:21 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:20 am Whatever, im sticking with keeping my vote where it was yesterday. Seanzie, you haven't convinced me youre town.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Honestly I don't feel like you're looking for town!Seanzie.

I'm not, because I think there's a lack of what I saw in the champs practice game and that's good enough for me.

I meantioned in Champs practice that I was playing in a specific way, I mentioned here that I was playing Champs practice in a specific way, at yet you don't bother to verify this at all and instead scumread me for percieved differences without being willing to reconsider? What am I to make of that?

One of your early "differences" was that in Champs practice I did both scumreads and townreads early. It actually use to be a scumtell for me to state townreads, and I still often don't bother to townhunt as town, so your understanding of me is way off, and you have plenty of people in the thread that know me better than you do to help shape your understanding.

Yes I do, and other people (nutella) also said you're not towny so it verifies my opinion.
Idc, I'll happily thunderdome you today.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:11 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Mac should die first.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:14 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:12 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:11 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Mac should die first.

What did you see?

A very reasonably structured post with the tone and reaction i was expecting to come more likely from town!Seanzie
So congrats, that's a point in your favor

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:20 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:48 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Tell me about WWA? I do not like their push on me when what they're suspecting me over could easily be cleared up by like 75% of the people in the game, and instead of doing anything to find them, they've just resigned to not do anything the rest of the game.

This is 100% true I was completely not gonna bother trying to find any towny posts by you cause I hadn't seen any up to that point but I've seen one or two now

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:31 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:17 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:14 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:12 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:11 pm

Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Mac should die first.

What did you see?

A very reasonably structured post with the tone and reaction i was expecting to come more likely from town!Seanzie
So congrats, that's a point in your favor

... everything you just said actually usually more describes my scum play.

My normal town modus operandi is to cover myself with large amounts of fresh meat, and then stand in the middle of a field yelling, and then look around at everyone to see who is 1. wolf taking the bait, 2. town genuinely just hungry for steak, 3. wolves shying away from me in weird ways because they know I'm trying to bait then, and 4. town shying away from me because they know they can watch and find people who satisfy 1 and 3 around me.

It is not reasonably structured, but it is effective.

Yes, but the reaction you had to my tunneling you is decently convincing. I like reading people off of direct interaction if I don't have enough evidence otherwise. I'll push and I'll be argumentative if I think it's going to net me a solid read by the time I'm done.

I might be a little biased here but I generally get the idea that wwa is not only:
1) making a read that probably makes sense to someone who doesnt play with you often
2) making it obvious and well known she is sr'ing you to the point of considering thunderdoming with you at various points
3) acknowledges that the read was stubborn but shared it anyway
4) includes other reads like on neon that she establishes are separate from you
5) sees a post that reminds her of the town sean she has seen and then changes her read

so unless the post(s) she tr'd you for are ones you don't believe she should tr you for, then where is your biggest issue? I read the tone as really genuine because she chose to make the arguments against you relentlessly while also realizing it didn't really put her in a good light. and even put a pretty big spotlight on you two. what good does it bring a wolf who was in a comfortable position to want to thunderdome in that scenario? I don't think (and i absolutely could be wrong here, i;ve only played with wwa like no more than t wice) that wwa would make a big gambit like that - for reasons I can't even begin to comprehend either

This is a weirdly analytical post from Porscha.

My main complaint about WWA is that the things they've focus on re:me are things that don't make sense for people who know me, and I've pushed them to consider this/explore this and they haven't.

Their thunderdone thing was weird.

-_-

Okay. you didn't refute anything I said. I think it's townier for someone to put their personal read above a general meta read someone else might have instead of just going "oh well some other ppl vouch for your behavior so I guess i'll back down" because I think that's 100% an easier route for a wolf to take.

thunderdome weird or not, do you believe weird = wolf? apparently not, since you're throwing around votes on mac and me. you feel like you lack conviction and that is not a particularly towny trait from you.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:32 pm looking at these names in isolation I think that wilgy and seanzie are townier than Kate svs and falcon just lil bit

how is wilgy townier than those names. all he has said is yes all game

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:20 pm Hot take: wagons were T/T and maybe T/T/T between falcon/Neon/Kate

@DrWilgy got anything to say? Any revolutionary new scumreads overnight?

@Porscha and @pyxxy what are your reads on each other?

Everyone else, what are your reads on those two?

Porscha, what do you make of that EoD? I know you had your vote on Neon but does your opinion change at all now that you've seen my rally to move everyone away, falcon flipped town, and Neon never came back to the thread?

pyxxy, why did you not seem to care whether falcon or Neon flipped?

@Neon do you have an opinion on EoD yesterday? cause you were getting hella wagoned while you weren't there.

Cant wait for Kate and Dennis to go after me today lmao.

I really shouldn't be awake, but I was finishing packing so I'm posting while I'm here and I'll be back in 2 or 3 hours lol.

1) pyxxy has been pretty afk for most of the game and from what I saw during catch up over night, he seemed sort of like... just willing to sheep whatever. The first part is not a great look from him, because normally he has a tooon of content... Which makes me worry he is wolfing and had tmi that wagons were t/t since he seemed so nonchalant about where his vote went when youd think he would have something more to say about it. I think he is scummy af and I wish he had been the shrug yeet yesterday instead of falcon being a shrug yeet.
And I dont think neon not making it back for eod is indicative of anything, I didnt make it for eod either, and from what I know neon is usually asleep for eod's around this time.
Really, what bugged me the most about neon early and why I had my vote on her to begin with, is that I didnt understand why she was sheeping falcon so much? Like she seemed to post enough or be around enough to make her own reads and not need to sheep. But she didnt back down from it when I pushed her, which I think she would potentially do to keep me from SR'ing her, and I thought the posts she made when she came back were fairly towny. But I also think I recall pyxxy (dennis too maybe?) saying the same thing about her comeback being towny and now I'm just kinda preflipping him mentally and I'm even more convinced its just tmi on neon town

I'm more convinced neon is town and pyxxy is not because a wolf during eod with 2 wagons would always have incentive to try and get their partner off the hook and not sit around picking his nose looking bored. But he did the latter

Falcon is always such LHF I kinds hate that wilgy vote on him too

@DrWilgy atone for your sins

Like falcon didnt do himself any favors but he usually doesnt anyway. I feel like someone should have had their eyes open to avoid a shrug yeet like that. Shrug yeets cause me agony

Oh also @Seanzie I read thru your thing with mac and nutella over night and I do believe that mac was able to help you make yourself appear very town. I still dont think of wwa any worse for her take on you throughout the day though. And if her eod isnt enough to convince you she isnt wolfing then I dont know what is

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:18 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:20 pm Hot take: wagons were T/T and maybe T/T/T between falcon/Neon/Kate

@DrWilgy got anything to say? Any revolutionary new scumreads overnight?

@Porscha and @pyxxy what are your reads on each other?

Everyone else, what are your reads on those two?

Porscha, what do you make of that EoD? I know you had your vote on Neon but does your opinion change at all now that you've seen my rally to move everyone away, falcon flipped town, and Neon never came back to the thread?

pyxxy, why did you not seem to care whether falcon or Neon flipped?

@Neon do you have an opinion on EoD yesterday? cause you were getting hella wagoned while you weren't there.

Cant wait for Kate and Dennis to go after me today lmao.

I really shouldn't be awake, but I was finishing packing so I'm posting while I'm here and I'll be back in 2 or 3 hours lol.

Actually this reminded me of what I was gonna post about.

Is really weird to me that I was in thread for so long without pressure and when I went to bed I got run up. That's not towny there's defs some wolfy motivation in there somewhere nobody wants to talk to me or pressure me when I'm available to talk back and engage with it only when I'm out of thread.

I've been getting miskilled a lot lately but at least I usually understand it. This was just big yucky.

My thoughts haven't really changed much I don't think. There's only one at most in SVS/Kate maybe zero.

Pyxxy is still scummy AF nothing in catch up pulled me off that.

You are still obv towning.

I'm not surprised Nut died they were basically spewed town.

If both svs and kate are town then your wagon was pure. So where did the wolves vote?

Neon did you edit your pfp lmao what the f*ck is that

To be clear it is very funny I just dont understand

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:39 am But no, the actual conclusion is that there is one in Mac/TSP and that there's at least one in Pyxxy/Seanzie/WWA. Perhaps Seanzie as that'd make them the wolf on both d1 and d2 town flips.

There's an outlier in Kate/Porscha that should be addressed as well.

...

yes

bold of you to place sean as the target in that group of 3

and you can't even respond to me about it zzzzzz

mac what do you think of tsp

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:03 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:57 pm [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

I seriously think Porscha is bussing pyxxy

Porscha made a post that made me feel like she was trying to pocket me, and possibly you, or maybe was teammates with you.

???

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:57 pm [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

I seriously think Porscha is bussing pyxxy

Pyxxy has done literally nothing but fucking lolcat today and give up what was basically a fake attempt at playing from eod yesterday, it was wolfy as shit, and you should be more concerned about people SR'ing you for last eod while letting pyxxy skate by despite his god awful, and I mean god awful, eod. Can we please just hammer him. I went almost 24 calendar hours without being able to get back to thread and when I come back, virtually *nothing* has happened in that time.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:08 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:03 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:57 pm [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

I seriously think Porscha is bussing pyxxy

Porscha made a post that made me feel like she was trying to pocket me, and possibly you, or maybe was teammates with you.

I thought she was trying to pocket me earlier too lol
Idc really if you think she's teamed with me cause all I've done is say I think she should be in the PoE and haven't really pushed her
So tbf I could also be bussing her but like... Nobody except me has had her in the PoE except for Lily who died N1
And I'm surprised I'm the only one who commented on that yesterday

Yeah lilys poe includes everyone who is alive, great work detective

Lmao imagine not looking into anyone jumping on you when almost the entire thread wolf reads you, which leaves this situation RIPE for being opportunistically ML'd, and trying to convince the one person tr'ing you that you're wolfing. YOU SHOULD BE TRYINF TO WORK WITH ME

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:25 am Again on the Porscha case, I don't think she's done enough that I consider towny
Also I will keep bringing up that Lily strongly scumread her and died N1 cause I really think that's worth considering
Cause in the champs practice game Lily started out as widely townread there too for a day but she was wolfing, and my guess is that if any of the scumteam in this game played in that game, they would know they wouldn't have to kill Lily on N1 unless they perceived her as a threat
And her Porscha read stood out to me because she held onto it and then Porscha handled it by townreading Lily and saying that scum!Lily would start out by townreading Porscha instead.

Lily fucking died not scumreading me. I can quote the post when I'm home but you would do better to elaborate on how I havent been towny even though I'm "tonally normal "

Like lay out points to convince the jury cuz rn as the jury I'm extremely not convinced

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:07 pm That being said @Dennis you were clearly playing quite similar to our last game together. You're playing very bold and saying things that I believe a wolf just wouldn't do. You were shoving yourself in the spotlight early saying pretty much nonsense and people were taking stances on you.

That's enough for me to town read you for now.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:09 pm I'm now town reading Nutella. Their internal consistency in their posts was good and villagery. Could go more into detail but ye village read there

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:13 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:36 am

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:07 am Town
Lily
Wilgy
Dennis


Mid/unsorted but sliiiightly ordered
Porscha
Rondo
Pyxxy
SVS
TSP
Neon
Sean
Wind
Falcon
Kate


Wolf
Mac lol

Why in the world am I last?

This is mildly towny.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:20 pm Also I'm moving Porscha up. Read her iso in the last game I saw her wolf in and she talks a lot more about useless game stuff than fluff. She's been fine~ comparatively

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:04 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:16 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:11 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:58 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:54 am [VOTE: mac] aubergine

explain yourself

just not feeling it with mac rn lol

are you able to explain why you think mac hero votes nutella just to double down on the vote after nutella actually posts

how is that a hero vote? fmpov mac is blatantly pushing a villager and getting 0 pushback while others pile on. I don't get the nutella vote at all and it just looks like Mac is openwolfing

Sorry I'm mad I didnt wait

She tr me dennis kate nutella and sr'd mac. So unless youd like to make the argument that *I* specifically killed her to lock in the townread on me, you would have to assert that for kate and dennis and also just not look at mac, ever, who she actually sr'd. Good luck making sense of that!

Like you were literally in thread at that time wwa. If you're having trouble where to look, as it seems to me from your poor attempt at convincing sean I've been wolfy, then just flip pyxxy so we can look for associatives and move the hell on.

Nobody is doing anything productive so far and the gamestate is getting on my nerves (though I welcome not needing to catch up on 10 pages in 1 sitting)

Hope this helps your delusion that I tried pocketing you btw