Honestly extremely I scum read him but there's no resitance which means he is other alone extremely expendable mafia or just afk town.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:54 am Is the vanity wagon making anyone else (hyena) irrationally nervous or is that just me?
Honestly forgot they had to put three scums on bit targets happy am not there for that alone really.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:57 amWell, it’s hard to say how true that is—we couldn’t declare votes on the other side or tell other people to vote for a specific person, so nova being the kill doesn’t inherently mean he was found the most scummiest. IIRC Epi and 112 and to a lesser extent radishes and spirityo and Lexi were the most popular scumreads, with nova slotted in thay second tier.Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:54 amAccidentally insa posted by was gonna sayTrustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:52 amNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:51 amI didn’t really have a read on them before today, I hadn’t read them really. I’d say ty4on is maybe slightly townie but he’s in a tough position to evaluate tbhTrustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:48 am Also while your here Nanook if you could see the other side what is/was your real on Nova/Ty4on
That's not bad to hear I get slight town from them but the other side decided they were evil want to hear more from the next gonna call it drop in
But who knows how votes actually went, it’s really hard to reach too many conclusions on them.
I think we let it sit over night for his defense but don't know where I would move right now honestlyHyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:58 amConsidering that half the players in this group are on the wagon now and that it felt like it grew pretty quickly after Elephant joined it, yes, I am paranoid.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:54 am Is the vanity wagon making anyone else (hyena) irrationally nervous or is that just me?
But I also think about D1 in our qualifiers where you predicted our partner's wagon would die down after you and others piled voted onto their wagon. So, while I don't know what to make of it, I'm hesitant to change things up so soon.
Okay good question Vanity flips town who's the most likely scum on his wagon right nowNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:00 amYeah, I have that feeling that vanity is either scum or has scum on their vote. Maybe both but definitely one.Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:58 amConsidering that half the players in this group are on the wagon now and that it felt like it grew pretty quickly after Elephant joined it, yes, I am paranoid.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:54 am Is the vanity wagon making anyone else (hyena) irrationally nervous or is that just me?
But I also think about D1 in our qualifiers where you predicted our partner's wagon would die down after you and others piled voted onto their wagon. So, while I don't know what to make of it, I'm hesitant to change things up so soon.
I see this its makes sense if he comes back with good responses it has to be sooner rather then later as well as ty4on hasn't done much at all your right.juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:36 pmOh you were right LC I didn't see this or several other posts on this page.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:51 pmYour earlier posts today were showing a growing scum-read on Ty4on, and very few other strong stances on anyone's alignment. You engage Elephant about vanity but you don't really give your own opinion on them very strongly, just question-prompts. Did you decide to start focussing on vanity because of the growing number of vanity voters? Why do you suspect vanity more than Ty4on?juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:41 pmYou're correct I did not post an analysis of vanity, I was tired and it didn't seem necessary. I read through him, noticed there was a lot of emotion in his posts and asked Ty4on the question. I pointed at you because I have been uneasy about you. I have tried to collect some thoughts/questions this morning and this afternoon which I will post in a minute. Maybe you are town and I am just paranoid about you.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:28 pm Here's how I see it, juliets: people start to vote vanity, then you made a couple of posts that broadcast a likely vanity vote. You said you were going to "eat and read through vanity again" which sounds good, but you don't give any analysis beyond asking Ty4on about vanity's emotional meta. Ty4on posted a couple of times before your next post and yet you didn't mention it again or @ - mention him or anything. Instead you just hop on the vanity train and point at me.
I can't remember exactly when I decided I needed to focus on vanity but the votes that persuaded me were hyena's and Nanook's, especially when Nanook moved. At some point in this day phase I had reviewed nova's posts and decided some seemed scummy but on the whole I wasn't overwhelmed with scumminess as I remember being in the moments that he was posting. I'm pretty sure I posted in the thread what my feeling was about his posts. So, I decided to give Ty4on a chance today and see what he had to say. I'm not sure that was the right decision at this point because Ty4on hasn't jumped into discussion as much as I hoped he would. Plus part of me wants to give that other thread the info of who he is hoping that would be useful. He would probably be my alternate vote if vanity came into the thread and gave good responses for the suspicion on him.
Well am just saying if vanity is mafia i am going to be looking into 100% next if he's town still looking into you but looks atleast alittle better for you as you wouldn't have had to push so hard to save himCreature wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:38 pmOkay, I admit I'm making a ton of effort to save my buddy here to the point of doing all crazy things because he's none other than my beloved janitorTrustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:37 pm Okay vanity's Return gives me mixed feelings and i think am still okay with them being voted today but what i did notice was Creature going and taking multiple D1 reads list off dead people as well as people not here in an attempt to save vanity from his wagon and move it to another one and wouldn't mind looking there tomorrow more.
Reason i like killing vanity first is we might get info if another group shows up here from the other sideNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:40 pm Unfortunately town does that too sometimes so I guess let’s stick with vanity or ty4
Their sides reads on him more info on the why from someone that was alive at the time since Nanook was dead and well Ty4on if scum isn't gonna give us that infoHyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:42 pmInfo about what?Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:41 pmReason i like killing vanity first is we might get info if another group shows up here from the other sideNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:40 pm Unfortunately town does that too sometimes so I guess let’s stick with vanity or ty4
Current thoughts
thats not the reason i made a case earlier yesterday i looked through everything i am saying that your flip will on top of that help sort creaturevanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:51 pmokay you're just a wolf lolTrustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:49 pmCurrent thoughts
Elephant could be Wolf but i see him having less then vanity
YOU creature but that is based of Vanitys flip
of and Ty4on but we are safer waiting a night inhope of confirmation if there is any from the other side
wanting to lynch me because it gives information on creature is horrible. just find me as town.
Gives a higher likely hood of him being a village and reverse if your wolfvanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:52 pmif i flip v, what does that mean for creature's alignment?Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:51 pmthats not the reason i made a case earlier yesterday i looked through everything i am saying that your flip will on top of that help sort creaturevanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:51 pmokay you're just a wolf lolTrustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:49 pmCurrent thoughts
Elephant could be Wolf but i see him having less then vanity
YOU creature but that is based of Vanitys flip
of and Ty4on but we are safer waiting a night inhope of confirmation if there is any from the other side
wanting to lynch me because it gives information on creature is horrible. just find me as town.
I like his defense on you alot more even if useing D1 wagons to do it if you flip V but if your w i see that as an attempt to save an ally this is even more likely if you flipped as a strong role like janitor or somethingvanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:54 pmwhy does me flipping v make creature a v? just because he thinks i'm a villager? i don't know your exact reasoning but don't know about that chief.Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:53 pmGives a higher likely hood of him being a village and reverse if your wolfvanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:52 pmif i flip v, what does that mean for creature's alignment?Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:51 pmthats not the reason i made a case earlier yesterday i looked through everything i am saying that your flip will on top of that help sort creaturevanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:51 pmokay you're just a wolf lolTrustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:49 pmCurrent thoughts
Elephant could be Wolf but i see him having less then vanity
YOU creature but that is based of Vanitys flip
of and Ty4on but we are safer waiting a night inhope of confirmation if there is any from the other side
wanting to lynch me because it gives information on creature is horrible. just find me as town.
easy take me and elephant out for now untill we resolve usNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:57 pm Juliets is in the towncore, no questions
If elephant is she is too
Am not following thisNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:58 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine
Elephant is safe so let’s do this.
Come join me fellow townies
Answered them all hope that helps alittleElephant wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:47 am Hello, Trustworthy Liberal!
I have read your posts, and I like them. I have some questions for you.
1) You have reached phase 4, and you are still alive! How do you feel about that?Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:53 pmIf you lynch me tommorow so be it but one extra days makes a huge difference for me
Scaryed, surprised, happy, excited. Ussally dead in forum games except for one Mash that I remember as well as a game I subbed into.
2) I think that your current scum reads are vanity and, depending on vanity's alignment, Creature or Elephant (myself). Is that correct?
That is correct.
3) The following players have been here since the beginning: Hyena, Juliets, Long Con, nutella. Do you trust them?
I trust them as much as u can throw them in the order
Juliets>Nutella>Hyena>Long Con
But at the moment that all are towny
4) How well does Nanook know you?
We played Game 8, I was town him mafia and he helped get me lynched while I was out for dinner. So not a whole lot I suppose.
5) How long have you survived as mafia in a forum game? How long do you normally survive as mafia in your home community?
I have been mafia twice in forum games and each went as follows.
-Lynched day One
-Subbed into it Day 4 and Lynched Day 6 as the final wolf due to who I subbed into's actions.
On my Homesite we play games that last a few hours, there I am feared for my counterclaims mainly wining a many games but lost that power here sadly.
There's game on YouTube that or could link a scum game of mine if wanted it's all over Voice.
6) Will you be alive until the endgame (LYLO), or will you be lynched before then?
I have no idea but if I stay in the middle ground of not top town but not being lynched I might be. I have been on there LYLO's before and had the right answer each time but been the lynched in two of them so I don't know what to think. (Those three times were all as town)
7) Have you ever played in an endgame? How did you feel about it?
Stressed. I have spent hours on end games making teams and possibilitys ussaly finding a scum in them.
(3 times as said before)
8) You have written that I am difficult to read. Do you have any questions for me?
What's your Alignment.
More seriously what's your reads what do you think of mechanics from other threads opinions on what we've been told about the other sides.
What do you think the neutral is doing do you think their death combines us back cause am starting to like my theory of that more with hearing a 5 group.
I asked many questions, because there is much to learn about you; I apologize if these are too many!
Thank you in advance,
The Elephant
Fixed with adding anwsers in a different colorTrustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:57 amAnswered them all hope that helps alittleElephant wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:47 am Hello, Trustworthy Liberal!
I have read your posts, and I like them. I have some questions for you.
1) You have reached phase 4, and you are still alive! How do you feel about that?Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:53 pmIf you lynch me tommorow so be it but one extra days makes a huge difference for me
Scaryed, surprised, happy, excited. Ussally dead in forum games except for one Mash that I remember as well as a game I subbed into.
2) I think that your current scum reads are vanity and, depending on vanity's alignment, Creature or Elephant (myself). Is that correct?
That is correct.
3) The following players have been here since the beginning: Hyena, Juliets, Long Con, nutella. Do you trust them?
I trust them as much as u can throw them in the order
Juliets>Nutella>Hyena>Long Con
But at the moment that all are towny
4) How well does Nanook know you?
We played Game 8, I was town him mafia and he helped get me lynched while I was out for dinner. So not a whole lot I suppose.
5) How long have you survived as mafia in a forum game? How long do you normally survive as mafia in your home community?
I have been mafia twice in forum games and each went as follows.
-Lynched day One
-Subbed into it Day 4 and Lynched Day 6 as the final wolf due to who I subbed into's actions.
On my Homesite we play games that last a few hours, there I am feared for my counterclaims mainly wining a many games but lost that power here sadly.
There's game on YouTube that or could link a scum game of mine if wanted it's all over Voice.
6) Will you be alive until the endgame (LYLO), or will you be lynched before then?
I have no idea but if I stay in the middle ground of not top town but not being lynched I might be. I have been on there LYLO's before and had the right answer each time but been the lynched in two of them so I don't know what to think. (Those three times were all as town)
7) Have you ever played in an endgame? How did you feel about it?
Stressed. I have spent hours on end games making teams and possibilitys ussaly finding a scum in them.
(3 times as said before)
8) You have written that I am difficult to read. Do you have any questions for me?
What's your Alignment.
More seriously what's your reads what do you think of mechanics from other threads opinions on what we've been told about the other sides.
What do you think the neutral is doing do you think their death combines us back cause am starting to like my theory of that more with hearing a 5 group.
I asked many questions, because there is much to learn about you; I apologize if these are too many!
Thank you in advance,
The Elephant
You would be surprise i played one on MU recently and thought the same thing but wasn't found (funnily enough was killed there by town as town for a play i would of usually gotten away with)Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:54 pmOh man, I'm so glad this isn't an anon game. I'm always terrible at those, haha. And I understand! I've considered making a secret alt account for similar reasons. Unfortunately, I think my personality would inevitably bleed into my posts regardless, so I always thought it would be a futile effort for me, lol. Also, you're not an imposter! D:<Elephant wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:48 pmThank you for the warm welcome!
This is my only Syndicate account, so technically it is not an alt. JJJ knew all along, and so did nutella. I've become the Elephant because I felt a bit of an imposter for not actually advancing in the championship, because I wanted to conceal my presence from some participants (not here now), and because I wanted to try out a more considered and less emotional and aggressive posting style. I'd prefer to keep the style, though I can drop it if that helps resolve me. I guess it's good that this isn't an anon game, eh?
That last part is odd and i personally missed it completelyjuliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:56 pm Ok, I see your concern @nutella about TLib being that guy in the poe from GH's article but from my own observation and the discussion that just took place I feel stronger about vanity.
Hyena is right, we need to resolve him today because we are just pushing the food around the plate instead of taking a bite. I share the concerns about vanity seeming like he's just reading the posts that are more current in here when he comes on line instead of studying the posts he missed and trying to solve the game. I understand he isn't enjoying himself and doesn't want to try but that's just not a good enough excuse. So I am going to vote him now -
[VOTE: vanity] aubergine
Also, Hyena I think mentioned Long Con and how odd it is that when he's mentioned with another player it's the other player that gets the vote. I also find that odd.
i played the anno mash and michelle shot meHyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:06 pmI recently played an Anon Turbo game on MU, and Evenstar happened to be playing, too... she guessed me correctly by D2, lol.Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:56 pmYou would be surprise i played one on MU recently and thought the same thing but wasn't found (funnily enough was killed there by town as town for a play i would of usually gotten away with)Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:54 pmOh man, I'm so glad this isn't an anon game. I'm always terrible at those, haha. And I understand! I've considered making a secret alt account for similar reasons. Unfortunately, I think my personality would inevitably bleed into my posts regardless, so I always thought it would be a futile effort for me, lol. Also, you're not an imposter! D:<Elephant wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:48 pmThank you for the warm welcome!
This is my only Syndicate account, so technically it is not an alt. JJJ knew all along, and so did nutella. I've become the Elephant because I felt a bit of an imposter for not actually advancing in the championship, because I wanted to conceal my presence from some participants (not here now), and because I wanted to try out a more considered and less emotional and aggressive posting style. I'd prefer to keep the style, though I can drop it if that helps resolve me. I guess it's good that this isn't an anon game, eh?
I did push the Vanity lynch as well i see how they were acting coming from scum was alittle doughtful in the last 5mins but knew that i would most likely come back to scum reading him later inLady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:27 pmNutella and JulietsMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:26 pm You guys lynched Spiny's slot AND Vanity.
Da actual fuq.
Who pioneered those lynches? They're scum.
this is my play style now back off you did nothing yesterday and just watched us push vanity care to explain thatLady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:28 pmI lied about not considering the Wifom this one can die tooTrustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:28 pm Everyone's back together this is nice.
can everyone declare their lynches yesterday and night kills that happen as well as the scummiest person from each grouping.
What is this lol
you also have been voting on which ever wagon this game with out much consideration to them if i recall from the charts you've placed the most votes this game (from out thread of course)nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:31 pmI resisted the vanity lynch for by far the longest and if you had read you would know that. If anyone engineered it, it was elephant.Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:27 pmNutella and JulietsMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:26 pm You guys lynched Spiny's slot AND Vanity.
Da actual fuq.
Who pioneered those lynches? They're scum.
You have less posts then me so back off like i know i low post but wow its rare to see stillLady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:31 pmI literally went afk for 48 hours. These deadlines are garbage and I have a job.Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:30 pmthis is my play style now back off you did nothing yesterday and just watched us push vanity care to explain thatLady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:28 pmI lied about not considering the Wifom this one can die tooTrustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:28 pm Everyone's back together this is nice.
can everyone declare their lynches yesterday and night kills that happen as well as the scummiest person from each grouping.
What is this lol
Yeah you can stay in the pile to burn
Please doMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:35 pmFor all the scummy stuff she did.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:33 pmIs she scum for the buzzer vote?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:32 pmYeah. Open votes, no maj. We did our backs and forths, but Sprit only popped in last few minutes, voted me, I voted Eva because obviously, and Eva switched from voting Sprit to me at :00.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:26 pm @Master Radishes
@sprityo
@Evenstar
Were ya’ll alone in limbo yesterday? And if so, what happened? And if not, same question.
It was fun and dramatic.
People need to believe me on her now, though.
I'll pull up my case, hold on.
Yeah michelle has that volume clearing surprised they weren't kill but that might mean they were stuck killing in our level which is?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:38 pm Fwiw Michelle was the only one giving shits in the hellscape level. She's town.
Will i consider it maybe their voting pattern and drawing out conflicts was bad but the case on Ever is also something to consider between this all was more mad at before for you just droping in and saying how i've been playing this entire game was scummy with how i play ever single game.Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:47 pm How about lynch Nutella and if she flips town lynch me
How about that
I will not throw my vote around and you should know that stated it many a time nowLady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:52 pmthe reason you are scummy isnt play styleTrustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:50 pmWill i consider it maybe their voting pattern and drawing out conflicts was bad but the case on Ever is also something to consider between this all was more mad at before for you just droping in and saying how i've been playing this entire game was scummy with how i play ever single game.Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:47 pm How about lynch Nutella and if she flips town lynch me
How about that
sorry had to be said do want everyone checked obviously also there still isn't majority right?
And this capitulation means little if you don't actually vote Nutella
Yes this is me i do end up doing this as i get busy Friday nights as an example are by far my busiest having my home site we finished a secret Santa event pretty much making abilities for each other and testing them as well as DnD sorry but how it is as well as i feel like this with today's state of the game
.As Nutella said it's of high dought that Eva could be the vig as I believe they have to be on our level based I the prosumed second Big shot. Also no prosumed vig shot for two nights unless they were double roleblocked which I highly unlikely.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:55 pmFor what it's worth, I didn't read that as a claim.Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:54 pmShe feigned surprise at there being a vig earlier bc in day two she referenced one.
She also says that the vig will definitely resovle her f3 problem or whatever.
That is the conclusion we came to unless we have a neutral killing around which if so the Vig really needs to make some noise. (99% sure Texas and DF where Vig shots though)Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:53 pm Another observation:
TonyStarkPrime - Eliminated on Inc. Phase 1 - Subconscious aspect of sympathy (vanilla)
Texas Cloverleaf - Eliminated on Inc. Phase 1 - ???
Given the ??? by Texas Cloverleaf, I think it is correct to assume that TC was the mafia kill, confirming the presence of a janitor, and that TSP was the vigilante kill.
If I'm right, my next task is looking through TexasCloverleaf's posts for anything noteworthy.
Okay am online now and going to try to play for a bit but you are already wrong in this post. The bolded I completely wrong I've been pushed multiple times and been one of the main counter wagon this game also you bringing the article and using I to push me I retrospect is slightly sus I my opinion.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:08 am From my catch-up, one thing that I think might not be clear is one reason people were looking at TLib as possible scum is because several of us read GH's article Stopping the Juggernaut after we kept mislynching people.
The article is about what to do when from a town perspective the game is going horribly wrong, i.e., how to find the wolves. In it he says "Firstly, we have the player quietly in the POE but isn't really pushed. What makes this archetype so important is that it has a high chance of flipping wolf." (There's more about this but this line sums it up.) This described TLib pretty well. He didn't have much to say most of the time but we could see that he was in the thread, he was generally toward the bottom of our list, and we had not pushed him hard. This wasn't the only reason people were looking at TLib but it was one of the reasons I was looking at him.
I urge @Trustworthy Liberal to get more involved today and give his thoughts if he is town. I would like to be able to town read him like I did at the beginning of day 2 after he voted Drago.
You day that like I have a set place already want it but actually i don't at all just gonna look now through cases on people.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:33 pm Elephant 4 [Long Con, iaafr, Michelle, Nutella]
JackofHearts2005 2 [Epignosis, Dom]
Long Con 2 [Macdougall, JackofHearts2005]
Nutella 2 [Lady Lambdadelta, Evenstar]
Evenstar 2 [112, Sprityo]
Epignosis 1 [Pawn Lelouch]
Hyena 1 [Master Radishes]
iaafr 1 [Quin]
Dom 1[Elephant]
Trustworthy Liberal 1 [Hyena]
3 Not Voting: Juliets, ColinisCool, Trustworthy Liberal
17 votes cast and the largest wagon is 4.
What an absolutely atrocious votal. We need to get our shit together.
(I guess it's better than "nova/jack is obvious scum, lol", but not by much.)
@Hyena
@Elephant
@Quin
@Master Radishes
@Pawn Lelouch
All of you, make your strongest case for why the person you are on right now deserves to be in contention. If you don't have a case you're willing to put time in to defend, vote someone else.
@juliets
@ColinIsCool
@Trustworthy Liberal
This may be the most important day phase in the entire game. We need your input. Put a damn vote down already.
What if your group was 3rd party - 2xtown?Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:59 pmOkay, sure, the player who got lynched is not oit of the game. Nonetheless, in order for it to be meaningful there must have been at least one scum in that group.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:53 pmWhich three questions?Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:19 pm
All of you are on a two-person lynch train. I want answers to the following three questions:
1: Why are you voting for your current target?
2: Why is the other person on your wagon voting for them?
3: Do you think the other person on your wagon is scum? Why or why not?
4: How does your read of your partner on this wagon affect your read of your target?
5: If your target flipped town, how would that affect your read of your partner?
That's a lazy characterization of what I said. I said it was not a lynch. I didn't say "nothing really was on the line." I don't know if anything was. I said it wasn't a lynch, which is demonstrably true.
(Possibility of scum-3p-town, but unlikely.)
I have been pushed as the thrid counter wagons each day even was an attempt D1.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:10 pmTrustworthy, sorry to hear about your weekend and I understand you walking away from the game yesterday.Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:03 pmOkay am online now and going to try to play for a bit but you are already wrong in this post. The bolded I completely wrong I've been pushed multiple times and been one of the main counter wagon this game also you bringing the article and using I to push me I retrospect is slightly sus I my opinion.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:08 am From my catch-up, one thing that I think might not be clear is one reason people were looking at TLib as possible scum is because several of us read GH's article Stopping the Juggernaut after we kept mislynching people.
The article is about what to do when from a town perspective the game is going horribly wrong, i.e., how to find the wolves. In it he says "Firstly, we have the player quietly in the POE but isn't really pushed. What makes this archetype so important is that it has a high chance of flipping wolf." (There's more about this but this line sums it up.) This described TLib pretty well. He didn't have much to say most of the time but we could see that he was in the thread, he was generally toward the bottom of our list, and we had not pushed him hard. This wasn't the only reason people were looking at TLib but it was one of the reasons I was looking at him.
I urge @Trustworthy Liberal to get more involved today and give his thoughts if he is town. I would like to be able to town read him like I did at the beginning of day 2 after he voted Drago.
I've had a bad weekend and every time I was able to play people were fighting and seemingly attacking each other I posts some getting personal which I extremely aganist how i ever want to play and why I kinda just walked away for yesterday sorry just now playing with that kinda attatude.
Are you saying that you were pushed and that's the part of the statement that is wrong? I can remember people voting you I just don't remember anyone really pushing it except maybe Benson but then he died that night. If this is not what you meant please let me know.
Can't get a good read on Elephant which isn't good but makes me feel he could be onejuliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:19 pmYes Trustworthy I think it might help me.Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:15 pmI have been pushed as the thrid counter wagons each day even was an attempt D1.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:10 pmTrustworthy, sorry to hear about your weekend and I understand you walking away from the game yesterday.Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:03 pmOkay am online now and going to try to play for a bit but you are already wrong in this post. The bolded I completely wrong I've been pushed multiple times and been one of the main counter wagon this game also you bringing the article and using I to push me I retrospect is slightly sus I my opinion.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:08 am From my catch-up, one thing that I think might not be clear is one reason people were looking at TLib as possible scum is because several of us read GH's article Stopping the Juggernaut after we kept mislynching people.
The article is about what to do when from a town perspective the game is going horribly wrong, i.e., how to find the wolves. In it he says "Firstly, we have the player quietly in the POE but isn't really pushed. What makes this archetype so important is that it has a high chance of flipping wolf." (There's more about this but this line sums it up.) This described TLib pretty well. He didn't have much to say most of the time but we could see that he was in the thread, he was generally toward the bottom of our list, and we had not pushed him hard. This wasn't the only reason people were looking at TLib but it was one of the reasons I was looking at him.
I urge @Trustworthy Liberal to get more involved today and give his thoughts if he is town. I would like to be able to town read him like I did at the beginning of day 2 after he voted Drago.
I've had a bad weekend and every time I was able to play people were fighting and seemingly attacking each other I posts some getting personal which I extremely aganist how i ever want to play and why I kinda just walked away for yesterday sorry just now playing with that kinda attatude.
Are you saying that you were pushed and that's the part of the statement that is wrong? I can remember people voting you I just don't remember anyone really pushing it except maybe Benson but then he died that night. If this is not what you meant please let me know.
Long Con as another example pushed a case of my Hal way D2 and hasn't stoped trying to get me lynched I havn't seen a revaluation from him since D2.
I know they flipped but both Vanuty and Creature were ready to kill me without a case just because I was scum readying vanity yes I was wrong but still was do case behind them.
I am missing some but don't want call out people wrongly but you've also been pushing me since you posted that article
i really need to ask would a scum game of mine help to view I would be me subbing it later in the game think D3, but it's tge only forum one i have rest are town.
Also, who do you think the wolf or wolves in our group are (the group we came from)?
What I the vig is out of shots like talked about before seems your willing to leave that up in the air for what seems from how you've talking a lock mafia?
Board game days
Oh and work starting tommorow mon-fridayTrustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:58 pmBoard game days
Dnd
Forum mafia (Just tgis game and ine mash that's done)
Hosting my homesite as I am the most active mod
Getting to know new people on my home site
Drama
Sleep
Eat
That has been my week elephant also cooking atm
