The Syndicate

Oh geez [mention]Glorfindel[/mention] I screwed up the quotes AGAIN.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:05 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:39 am The scum are Jay, Long Con, Quin, Glorfindel and Kyle.
You have proven yourself adept at identifying mafia when you're civ so I have to seriously consider what you have to say here. What do you see about LC that says he's bad? I have a hell of a time reading him even tho I've played with him for years. And is there anything you would be willing to share about Quin, Glorf, and Kyle? I don't think I've ever seen a bad Glorf so I'd like to know what you see. Thanks for anything you're willing to share.
Forgive me but... @juliets: what on earth gave you a crazy idea like that?

The couple of games I've played with Mac where he was civ he was guns a-blazing picking out mafia. It doesn't mean I automatically buy his picks hook, line and sinker, that's why I asked him for some reasoning on them. It doesn't mean I think you are bad just because he named you.

poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 am This Juliet is indeed very polite (and hard to read as people say)

Do you mind sharing your own thought @@juliets ? Anything you find interesting?

Well at the moment I am most interested in Bullzeye, not so much for his vote for Nova because voting a no show on Day 1 has been accepted practice in the past, but more because he posted on Day 1 but his posts were almost all devoid of content. That doesn't feel like civ Bullz to me - he's an outstanding player.

I think I made it clear that I don't suspect JJJ and I haven't read back on OoaLH but her refusal to vote for TH seemed more of a civ move to me than a baddie move. I may have more thoughts on her later when I read her back.

I'm just kind of throwing things out here, is there anything specifically you would like me to speak to?

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:11 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:09 am Ope, I found it! (am I allowed to post a quote from another game?)
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:29 pm There's a specific way in which Quin disagrees with literally everyone... and how he doesn't give a crap... usually, I see that from town Quin, with a certain belligerently honest tone to it. That's one of the secrets of my quindar. That's a bit of what genuquin means.
...wait. Quin's in Ravenclaw. I don't want to lynch someone in my house.
But Quin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
mfw me trying to be helpful isn't town indicative

Luna, what does town Quin look like to you?

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] ^^^

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:24 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:23 am @Lunalee ^^^
dismissive, doesn't put up with anyone's crap, and short posts. Go look at Outpost 31. That's my idea of town Quin.

ok thanks, I modded that game but I will go back and look at his posts. Quin, do you have any other game examples where you were good? Also, what game was that where you were bad and lost but ultimately won Best Baddie for it?

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:27 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:07 am
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:07 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:40 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:33 pm Have a care, my friend! Insulting a player of the calibre of Jay is neither wise nor becoming.

Spoiler: show
Psh. JJJ is an expired fad. He was something back in 2015, but has been on the decline for years. He shares his unwanted knowledge from bygone eras of mafia play, back when people played on their iPhone 6. His ego has only increased in the years since he was relevant, as none want to tell him that we've left the old ways. People like you and DDL glorify his name, bowing before the ancient guru as if he weren't a shriveled up stump, vomiting your dignity onto the floor and then splashing around in the puddles.
I have no idea why I just wrote that. I didn't really mean any of it.

Seriously though do something besides sucking up to JJJ or I will find a vig kill or a lynch rope to fit you.
Aaah, Chuckles - old friend! I feel like I’ve just been revived from a generation in cryo-suspension. I don’t understand where this hating on Jay has come from. I seem to remember The Syndicate as a somewhat kinder, gentler place. Now, it seems like aggravation and naked threats are the currency here...
Hi Glorf, good to have you playing. What do you see as "hating on Jay"? Are there specific things you're looking at or are you talking about the general tenor of the thread when Jay had votes on him?
That new girl referred to Jay as a ‘nutcase’ if my memory serves me correctly. Was it Chuckles that wrote that character assassination piece on him earlier today? But other than that, just the general tone of the game - that, and I said earlier, any Mafia team that didn’t see the need to try and engineer his removal early would have to have rocks in their collective heads.

Ok thanks for the explanation. I actually thought poutanko (I think thats who it was) was kidding Jay when they called him a nutcase because Jay's comment struck me as funny. But we all have our different ways of interpreting things in mafia and I could very well be wrong.

poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:31 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:21 am
poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 am This Juliet is indeed very polite (and hard to read as people say)

Do you mind sharing your own thought @@juliets ? Anything you find interesting?
Well at the moment I am most interested in Bullzeye, not so much for his vote for Nova because voting a no show on Day 1 has been accepted practice in the past, but more because he posted on Day 1 but his posts were almost all devoid of content. That doesn't feel like civ Bullz to me - he's an outstanding player.

I think I made it clear that I don't suspect JJJ and I haven't read back on OoaLH but her refusal to vote for TH seemed more of a civ move to me than a baddie move. I may have more thoughts on her later when I read her back.

I'm just kind of throwing things out here, is there anything specifically you would like me to speak to?
Do you need to be asked for something specific to share your own thought tho? Okay then, do you have some other suspects in your mind or someone you notice behaving in a way that they're not their usual self? I see you keep asking people but only gave your opinion if you're asked about it which gave me impression you're guarded

I thought you were trying to get at something specific. I mean I have thoughts that may not be pertinent to you. I generally try to solve using POE and question people a lot to be able to remove them from my POE. There are people right now that I'm seeing as civ but I'm of two minds about naming them - I don't really want to put a target on their back by me and others naming them as civ Imo though I have named some where I thought it was appropriate. That may be why you see me as guarded. Anyway, I have people I think of as civ, Bullz that I am thinking as bad, and then a group of people I haven't decided on which would include for example, Long Con, Jackofhearts, kara, Luna, you and Soneji. Something is bothering me about timmer but I can't put my finger one it so I will re-read him today. On noticing people's behavior I have noted DH is not the take-charge, run the thread, person he was in Outpost where he was bad, so I am reading him as good which I have already said but could say the reason at the time because Outpost was ongoing.

Ok, I feel like I have just vomited random thoughts into the thread - still not sure thats what you wanted but there it is.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:50 am
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:05 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:39 am The scum are Jay, Long Con, Quin, Glorfindel and Kyle.
You have proven yourself adept at identifying mafia when you're civ so I have to seriously consider what you have to say here. What do you see about LC that says he's bad? I have a hell of a time reading him even tho I've played with him for years. And is there anything you would be willing to share about Quin, Glorf, and Kyle? I don't think I've ever seen a bad Glorf so I'd like to know what you see. Thanks for anything you're willing to share.
Forgive me but... juliets: what on earth gave you a crazy idea like that?
Here’s a thought. If Glor is scum, at least one of these other players is also scum.

Jack, how is Glor being scum relate to the others being scum?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:09 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:02 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:50 am
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:05 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:39 am The scum are Jay, Long Con, Quin, Glorfindel and Kyle.
You have proven yourself adept at identifying mafia when you're civ so I have to seriously consider what you have to say here. What do you see about LC that says he's bad? I have a hell of a time reading him even tho I've played with him for years. And is there anything you would be willing to share about Quin, Glorf, and Kyle? I don't think I've ever seen a bad Glorf so I'd like to know what you see. Thanks for anything you're willing to share.
Forgive me but... juliets: what on earth gave you a crazy idea like that?
Here’s a thought. If Glor is scum, at least one of these other players is also scum.
Jack, how is Glor being scum relate to the others being scum?
He’s very dismissive of what he shouldn’t give a shit about. If it was just Glor as scum, he’d be okay with a world where Mac actually goes after that crew. But what if there were 3 mafia in that pile? ScumGlor would be worried about that and Glor’s post comes across worried. Like if Mac put me in a five player group and said that was the mafia, I’d ignore it. Glor didnt.

Ooooh, I don't think I would have ever thought about it that way (I'm just terrible at nuance) but it's a perspective I will have to give some thought to. Thanks for explaining.

poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:16 am What is this Yun Qui?

It's from Firefly. We had 4 I believe ship captains who picked their crew. Each ship had a name, mine was the Yun Qui and our captain was TH. People accused us of sticking together as a team instead of looking for baddies among our own shipmates. We all had good reads on each other but TH was bad, fooled us all to the very end.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:13 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:45 am
poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:31 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:21 am
poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 am This Juliet is indeed very polite (and hard to read as people say)

Do you mind sharing your own thought @@juliets ? Anything you find interesting?
Well at the moment I am most interested in Bullzeye, not so much for his vote for Nova because voting a no show on Day 1 has been accepted practice in the past, but more because he posted on Day 1 but his posts were almost all devoid of content. That doesn't feel like civ Bullz to me - he's an outstanding player.

I think I made it clear that I don't suspect JJJ and I haven't read back on OoaLH but her refusal to vote for TH seemed more of a civ move to me than a baddie move. I may have more thoughts on her later when I read her back.

I'm just kind of throwing things out here, is there anything specifically you would like me to speak to?
Do you need to be asked for something specific to share your own thought tho? Okay then, do you have some other suspects in your mind or someone you notice behaving in a way that they're not their usual self? I see you keep asking people but only gave your opinion if you're asked about it which gave me impression you're guarded
I thought you were trying to get at something specific. I mean I have thoughts that may not be pertinent to you. I generally try to solve using POE and question people a lot to be able to remove them from my POE. There are people right now that I'm seeing as civ but I'm of two minds about naming them - I don't really want to put a target on their back by me and others naming them as civ Imo though I have named some where I thought it was appropriate. That may be why you see me as guarded. Anyway, I have people I think of as civ, Bullz that I am thinking as bad, and then a group of people I haven't decided on which would include for example, Long Con, Jackofhearts, kara, Luna, you and Soneji. Something is bothering me about timmer but I can't put my finger one it so I will re-read him today. On noticing people's behavior I have noted DH is not the take-charge, run the thread, person he was in Outpost where he was bad, so I am reading him as good which I have already said but could say the reason at the time because Outpost was ongoing.

Ok, I feel like I have just vomited random thoughts into the thread - still not sure thats what you wanted but there it is.
In fairness Outpost was a smaller, differently formatted game. Much easier to take control of and be loud and in charge. Like in Survivor mafia.

Ok, good point, I'll not consider that when evaluating you.

I just re-read speedchuck and found that:

1. In the end he did not believe OoaLH was bad so I don't think he was killed by a baddie team with OoaLH on it.
2. He said some negative things about Glorf which doesn't look great for Glorf but it's not enough for me to suspect him.

Has anyone else re-read speed? See anything that I didn't?

I'm out for the time being, physical therapy calls. Be back later this afternoon.

Bullzeye wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:50 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:21 am
poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 am This Juliet is indeed very polite (and hard to read as people say)

Do you mind sharing your own thought @@juliets ? Anything you find interesting?
Well at the moment I am most interested in Bullzeye, not so much for his vote for Nova because voting a no show on Day 1 has been accepted practice in the past, but more because he posted on Day 1 but his posts were almost all devoid of content. That doesn't feel like civ Bullz to me - he's an outstanding player.
I suck as a civ and take a long time to feel motivated, hence why I tend not to have much to say. I appreciate the compliments but I don't think your assessment of my play is correct tbh.

Bullz, most of my assessment of your play comes from that game (I've forgotten it's name) where you infiltrated my BTSC with OA and convinced us both you were on our side. You even had a fake civ role card. It remains the most brilliant bit of mafia playing I have seen in all my years of mafiaing. Maybe that helps explain my compliment.

Bullzeye wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:09 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:36 pm
Bullzeye wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:09 pm I didn't have time to read anything at all yesterday but remembered that the poll would end pretty early for me so wanted to make sure I had a vote. In lieu of catching up I just voted for a no-show. Didn't realise that was suddenly an unforgivable sin in some people's eyes.
Bullz, beyond your vote I found your posts in the Day phase to be jokey and talk more about Potter lore and video games than actual content while most of the rest of us were trying to assess people and come to some conclusions. As you look back over those posts do you see what I mean? If so could you speak to that issue?
I don't feel that Day 1 has to be so serious, considering nine times out of ten nothing of any significance actually happens. I often vote for no-shows or low posters in the first lynch for that reason, it's not like this is a new thing I've never done before. It's been blown massively out of proportion for reasons I don't understand.

I see it differently so maybe my suspicion is a matter of play style. I feel like the first day scum can be found if we work hard at it and take a close look at the things that happen during the phase. So to me, you looked like you were not interested in digging for information at all and just wanted to coast through the day, something I attribute to the mafia faction. I see Day 0 as the day for goofing off and being jokey and frivolous. I'll consider what you've said though. Do you have any suspicions at this point?

I just read through INH and I don't see any reason to call him a civ. There wasn't a lot there and he seems to be missing after saying he would try to be here more on day 2. Low performing INH in my experience = bad INH. I could see a vote there unless I'm missing some good reason not to.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:24 pm I'm also pretty damn sure that I already confronted Juliets about this in the last game we played together when she brought it up.

Bit scummy to be using it once again as an excuse to hop onto a bandwagon, with more or less the same wording/justification. Was she hoping I forgot I already debunked this?

I don't recall you debunking it but I do recall you were MIA for a good chunk of GOC where you were bad and also the game after that, I can't remember the game, where you were bad. So I'm wary of the behavior.I have no recollection of your telling me what you told me here. I meant no offense.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:42 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:37 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:24 pm I'm also pretty damn sure that I already confronted Juliets about this in the last game we played together when she brought it up.

Bit scummy to be using it once again as an excuse to hop onto a bandwagon, with more or less the same wording/justification. Was she hoping I forgot I already debunked this?
I don't recall you debunking it but I do recall you were MIA for a good chunk of GOC where you were bad and also the game after that, I can't remember the game, where you were bad. So I'm wary of the behavior.I have no recollection of your telling me what you told me here. I meant no offense.
Activity level is just an OT idea to me, so the idea that someone's bringing it into the game and attempting to use it against me kinda pisses me off. Do you want me to find games where I was a low poster and civilian just to get this idea solidified in your mind?

No thats ok. I believe you. I just had two experiences in a row where it was true and thats what made it stick with me. I will remember this conversation in future games.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:58 pm Who is bad Juliets?

I am striking out on finding people that are bad. It seems like if I suspect someone they just turn around and say I'm bad - that used to be unacceptable (Bullz did not do that to his credit). I am about to read Luna, timmer, and Soneji because I haven't paid much attention to two of them (timmer and Sonji , and I can't remember all the positions Luna has taken. I'll let you know when I find someone.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:40 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:37 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:24 pm I'm also pretty damn sure that I already confronted Juliets about this in the last game we played together when she brought it up.

Bit scummy to be using it once again as an excuse to hop onto a bandwagon, with more or less the same wording/justification. Was she hoping I forgot I already debunked this?
I don't recall you debunking it but I do recall you were MIA for a good chunk of GOC where you were bad and also the game after that, I can't remember the game, where you were bad. So I'm wary of the behavior.I have no recollection of your telling me what you told me here. I meant no offense.
Outpost 31?

Chickachicka 123?

U-Pick

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:34 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:58 pm Who is bad Juliets?
I am striking out on finding people that are bad. It seems like if I suspect someone they just turn around and say I'm bad - that used to be unacceptable (Bullz did not do that to his credit). I am about to read Luna, timmer, and Soneji because I haven't paid much attention to two of them (timmer and Sonji , and I can't remember all the positions Luna has taken. I'll let you know when I find someone.
Hey Jules, I had a look at Lunas posts last night, only some of them are in my iso, the ones I thought were relevant, but if you're looking at Luna, feel free to browse then.

Thanks for reminding me.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:43 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:33 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:29 am
Spoiler: show
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:27 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:22 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:20 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:18 am

I'm voting for Quin anyways. How is that prioritizing House Cup points over hunting?
Voting for and trying to lynch are two different issues.
Really? Because I don't vote someone if I'm not trying to lynch them. DH, what's your opinion on Quin?
On the whole I liked his D1 play, having just now read into his D2 stuff, I don't feel great about his JC post which he essentially admitted was trash, and he backed off of it pretty easily/quickly. I don't see anything "bad" from him, though.
Thanks for your input. If you had to point out scum to lynch right now, who's your GTH vote?
I'm moderately pinged by you, but I feel strongly that Owner's obsession w/ me D1 and her squirrely-ness with answering questions are good indications that she's bad. So if this was Outpost mafia and I had the flamethrower, it'd be Extra Crispy time up in here real quick.

That being said I'll have a firmer grasp of the game tomorrow when I do my Re-ISOing, and probably walk away from that with something better than a GTH, or in your case a "moderate ping".
I'm glad this game bases lynches on the majority vote instead of one person with a flamethrower. You and Owner did have a lot of back-and-forth, and I see why you suspect her. But I'm starting to think if she were scum she wouldn't have been so blatant with her accusations of you. Just a though. I feel like scum are mostly laying low right now, and I don't think we're on the right trail.

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] what makes you say you feel the scum are mostly laying low right now? Do you have any specific people in mind? I've read through your posts but didn't find a suspicion that matches that thought unless you are talking about Bullz. But if so, who else?

linki: [mention]Owner of a Lonely Heart[/mention] I's so sorry about your emergency. Please be well.

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] I missed that you had voted INH so I guess he is one you think has been laying low, much like I thought.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:13 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:21 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:55 pm @JaggedJimmyJay : Being one of the few people I feel that I can trust in this game right now, may I please ask your opinion of two player of you may have far more extensive and recent experience of than I - Jack and Colin? Thank you kindly.
I think Colin has seemed authentic in his play so far. Jack hasn’t done much, so I award no civilian points. There is precedent for him to goof off as a good guy so tread carefully, but it’s an easy meta to mimic. Indeed that’s the value of the meta.

Can you explain why you trust me in specific reference to my play in this game?
Thank you Jay, for your assessment. I can’t say that I’d necessarily agree on either count. I find something uneasy about Colin so far although I’m prepared to bow to your superior experience of him. You consider that Jack is a ‘good guy’ ‘goofing off’? I see no evidence of either from his posts. I thought his case (if you can call it that) on me was little more that analytical gymnastics without a safety net of logic. I should ask you to reconsider and keep a close eye on him.

As for you, Jay - I get this overwhelming IDGAF tone from your posts that I don’t think I’d see were you Mafia. I think you’re more likely to be more low key and generally more agreeable in your posts if you were Mafia.

Glorf, can you explain what you mean by "analytical gymnastics" regarding Jack's logic for voting you? Are you seeing Jack as bad right now? If so, is it because of his case on you or are there other things you are wary of?

I have to get ready to go to work now and I won't be back until 2:30 or 3:00 at the earliest to respond to the comments re:Soneji and others.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:50 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:15 pm @Lunalee I missed that you had voted INH so I guess he is one you think has been laying low, much like I thought.
I also suspect Kara, because he hasn't said much.

I'm just catching up...

Lunalee what about Kyle or lapluie?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:03 am GTH babey

ColinIsCool - town
DharmaHelper - town
insertnamehere - town
JaggedJimmyJay - town
Kylemii - scum
Bullzeye - town
Epignosis - town
Glorfindel - town
Owner of a Lonely Heart - town
poutanko - town
Soneji - scum
juliets - scum
Long Con - town
Lunalee - scum
MacDougall - scum
Quin - town
Jackofhearts2005 - town
karavalenge - scum
lapluie - town
timmer - town

I was surprised to see this nutella as I don't remember you saying anything bad about me prior to this (I haven't ISO'd you so maybe I missed something). Can you tell me what you are seeing that makes you think I am bad?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:15 pm Hey juliets are you Kyle's teammate

How funny, I was just responding to one of your posts. I don't know whether Kyle is bad or civ. I don't currently suspect him though. What makes you ask?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:21 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:18 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:15 pm Hey juliets are you Kyle's teammate
How funny, I was just responding to one of your posts. I don't know whether Kyle is bad or civ. I don't currently suspect him though. What makes you ask?
Just asking cause I think you are.

ok. Well, you're right if he's a civ.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:35 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:12 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:50 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:15 pm @Lunalee I missed that you had voted INH so I guess he is one you think has been laying low, much like I thought.
I also suspect Kara, because he hasn't said much.
I'm just catching up...

Lunalee what about Kyle or lapluie?
Kylemii impressed me with his scum game last time we were all scum together. I got lynched early on, but Kylemii survived until the end with hardley any suspicions. He mostly laid low, hopped in and looked good when he needed to, and sat back and won the game. Because of this I do not feel confident in giving Kyle a town read.

As far as I can tell, Lapluie isn't playing. She posted "hello, checking in" and hasn't been back since to post or vote. I'd rather she get a replacement than us resort to lynching an inactive.

So Luna, the reason I asked about Kyle is for me he falls into that category of not saying much - mostly just popping in to get opinions. So I just wondered why he wasn't one of the people you named?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:08 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:49 pm Imma fight Jimmy for lying or being wrong on Luna and Nutella.
what, Jack. WHAT.
Luna is town and Nutella is scum. That’s what.

What do you see about Nutella that makes you think she is scum. Someone brought up earlier that she has been very bold this game which seems more likely civ.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:30 pm juliets is a tough nut to crack. I am sensing something wrong, but I cannot readily describe what it is.

There really is nothing wrong except I'm really struggling with a vote right now.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:50 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:45 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:44 pm She’s doing a Speedball impression so her suspicions have no weight. Bold is not the right word.
Compare and report. That's a civilian nutella.
Jay and Dizzy reads remain roughly the same at top and bottom of that page.

In this game, Nutella has changed mind reads in several consecutive posts.

Not the same.

But nutella is known for changing her mind a lot when civ. Also, sorry I don't get it but could you tell me what you mean by Speedball?

oops linki, jay just said this but I still need to know about Speedball

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:57 pm Who buys INH as a civilian?

I haven't put him in my civilian category yet mostly because he no u'd me and responded to my suspicion with what I felt was hostility. He also hasn't made much of a contribution.

I have narrowed down my vote candidates for today and am going to vote for Soneji. I've read back through Jay's case on him a couple of times and buy his points. One thing that I disagree with is Jay agreeing with Soneji about LC being suspect for talking about mechanics. In the world LC and I come from asking mechanics in the thread was something that was done so everyone could see the answers, it was normal and we even had one person known for his abilities in that area. So I don't find LCs asking about mechanics a scum tell at all.

I could also see a vote for INH.

[VOTE: Soneji] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:28 pm I have narrowed down my vote candidates for today and am going to vote for Soneji. I've read back through Jay's case on him a couple of times and buy his points. One thing that I disagree with is Jay agreeing with Soneji about LC being suspect for talking about mechanics. In the world LC and I come from asking mechanics in the thread was something that was done so everyone could see the answers, it was normal and we even had one person known for his abilities in that area. So I don't find LCs asking about mechanics a scum tell at all.

I could also see a vote for INH.

[VOTE: Soneji] aubergine
Sorry, what exactly are the points against Soneji? In your own words, brief as possible.

Oh sorry.

1. The fact that he tried to make your talking about mechanics a scum tell (Jay agree with Soneji on this)
2. He explained that he thought Owners Deathly Hallows/Dark Arts thing was a scum slip because he had scum slipped on minor things such as this which is a vague unverifiable way to promote a slip; and when bad guys promote false slip dialogue they usually feel the need to justify try to negate the controversy that surrounds scum slips (the basics of this point and the ones that follow are from Jays case)
3. He smears Qwner for talking about her suspicions so much but people were asking her about it all day - should she just not have responded?
4. He mischaracterizes one of Luna's post.
5. His reasons for voting Turnip Head are not that persuasive. He worms his way into a vote for TH who wanted his head without it seeming like a no-u.

I'm not sure about some of my wording there but I hope it is understandable.

lots of linki

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:13 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:01 pmOh sorry.

1. The fact that he tried to make your talking about mechanics a scum tell (Jay agree with Soneji on this)
2. He explained that he thought Owners Deathly Hallows/Dark Arts thing was a scum slip because he had scum slipped on minor things such as this which is a vague unverifiable way to promote a slip; and when bad guys promote false slip dialogue they usually feel the need to justify try to negate the controversy that surrounds scum slips (the basics of this point and the ones that follow are from Jays case)
3. He smears Qwner for talking about her suspicions so much but people were asking her about it all day - should she just not have responded?
4. He mischaracterizes one of Luna's post.
5. His reasons for voting Turnip Head are not that persuasive. He worms his way into a vote for TH who wanted his head without it seeming like a no-u.
Which among these points is/are of the greatest interest to you? LC did ask for you to answer in your own words, which you technically did, but this is a very close re-hash of my own case.

It was really that there were a series of things that spoke to him being bad, not just one or two things. Item 2 was the most interesting to me because I had never thought of it that way and also item 5 because it was so clever, hidden so well. Also, I did say from the beginning that your case is what convinced me and no, that does not mean if Soneji is good I will try to somehow lay that at your doorstep.

Dang, I'm sorry Soneji, please play again soon.

Welcome Sloonei and sprityo!

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:08 pm Sloonei is mafia

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:21 pm So who was last to vote Soneji? @juliets ? Did ya get a hallow?

I didn't but was I the last one to vote?

karavalenge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:51 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:34 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:21 pm So who was last to vote Soneji? @juliets ? Did ya get a hallow?
I didn't but was I the last one to vote?
You were the last to post that you were voting for Soneji, which is how DDL is determining that.

Oh ok, I missed that somehow.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:59 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:34 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:21 pm So who was last to vote Soneji? @juliets ? Did ya get a hallow?
I didn't but was I the last one to vote?
why would you ask this nutella? If juliets did get a hallow and tell you, she would become a target. The mafia could kill her to get the hallow.

Excellent question.

Jay, PLEASE tell me you are not going to call people by those names. Also, my real name is in that group of names and I would probably answer to it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:10 pm Wait... Juliets isn't named Juliet!?

um...no

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:13 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:10 pm Wait... Juliets isn't named Juliet!?
um...no
But I named my daughter after you!?

lol, I love that name actually (obviously) - I should change my name

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:00 pm For the remainder of the game:

ColinIsCool = Cornelius
DharmaHelper = Dennis
insertnamehere = Isaiah
Kylemii = Kevin

Bullzeye = Bucky
Epignosis = Earnest
Glorfindel = Georgio
Sloonei = Stanley
poutanko = Penelope

juliets = Janet
Long Con = Lorenzo
Lunalee = Lisa
MacDougall = Mark
nutella = Nancy
Quin = Qasim

Jackofhearts2005 = Jordan
karavalenge = Karen
sprityo = Sid
timmer = Theodore
Ugh Nancy is like the ugliest name evverrrr. What about Nora
He called me Mark.

Mark.

should be Maximillian and we could call you Max

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:25 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:35 pm MacDougall

Spoiler: show
is mafia. Discuss.

he didn't do the thing i asked him to do

Does this mean he didn't insert the "learned" between I and Quin in his post or is it something else I missed when I did his ISO. Is there anything else you could share about seeing Mac as bad? If you want to wait till day to answer thats fine.

EBWOP: when I did YOUR ISO not his

I will be off and on today - there's a football game in every time slot that I want to watch but theres usually enough garbage time in each game for me to check in here. Please alert me if there is something directed directly to me.

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