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Did the rules say so?
Cranky because you dont like Karma Police do you?
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:17 am Alright, I've decided I'm not going to get misexed again. Wolves, I hope you have your finger on the trigger to gun me down, because you sure as hell aren't getting rid of me any way else. I've worked hard to clear up my IRL distractions so I can focus on this game, and my WIM is pretty damn high right now.
Let's start with some raw facts.
The following players are town: DrWilgy, Dyslexicon, Hally, Herm, MacDougall, Master Radishes, Oddmerta, Poison Chan, sprityo, SPF and tutuu. You might be asking yourself how I've managed to confirm 10 people as town in 6 pages. If so, you didn't read the game. If you're skeptical about my reads, remember that in nearly half a dozen games on the Syndicate, I've only towncored 1 person wrong, ever. When I get killed N1 for my reads, remember this post and trust everyone I said to trust.
Mindmeld?Alison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:32 amI think sprityo doesn't care that he's being scumread, but JPIC makes a show of not caring while actually caring. (See: "I better get a good reason why I'm being scumread" -> "screw you guys I'm drinking coffee and definitely not caring about the game".)MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:30 amCitation needed
I'm tired mac, it's 8:30 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:40 am Come on Sprityo I must be mafia for scum reading you. Give it to me.
yeah. tell me more so i can tell you all your reads are wrong or misguided
But if I buss you then we'll lose our best power roleMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:42 amImma let you skate day 1 but only if you promise to bussprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:40 amMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:40 am Come on Sprityo I must be mafia for scum reading you. Give it to me.
un momento por favor as i go back to pull up exactly what you said
Nevermind mac. there was nothing interesting. nothing youve said is interesting. It's 100% entirely you. I was hoping since i head read ahead you mightve actually been productive but all we have to go off of is your good word which is bullocks.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:00 amI see you are taking the "hard claim mafia" defensive strategy.
numbers arent updated, dunno what it's at now
because every day is a new day and every game is a new game. To simply accept your fate and the pattern is stupid. Live a little, be a little crazy, play some mafiatutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:10 ami meant: why do u say there is no chance u are getting lynched when u also say u seem to keep getting lynched?
It's because I smell like lavendar and bathe in honeyNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:19 am I have a genuine townread of Sprit
Someone send help
You’re missing out.Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:29 amyou are too smooth for being true. also bathing in honey? that's sticky and disgusting even for my imagination, sorry.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:21 amIt's because I smell like lavendar and bathe in honeyNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:19 am I have a genuine townread of Sprit
Someone send help
Silky smooth skin, etc. What's not to townread?
why are you different than Upick by the way? also are you always scummy?
Madame that is a lie through and through there is no attack. I welcome you pressure me all you want but you’re going to find that I am town and you’re deeper in a tunnel than John HenryAlison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:44 pmI really think the way sprityo attacked JPIC was super scummy and it's one of the major factors that would make JPIC trend up in my reads (I'm ambivalent about it atm because there are good reasons to scumread him too and he didn't really do anything when I tried to reach out to him and get him to show me his towniness).
It was like, sprityo gets pressured by Mac and questioned, and then he immediately redirects with "actually let's not talk about this, let's talk about your JPIC read, I thought that was interesting". And then when Mac challenges him to specify what he found interesting about the JPIC read, he flails for a bit and then lashes out at Mac ("everything you've said has been bollocks", "your case is only based on your own word" etc).
To me that reads as though sprityo is very uncomfortable with Mac's pressure and wants to divert attention to someone else he thinks Mac will scumread just as strongly, and perhaps even townread him for finding JPIC scummy. Could scum!sprityo bullshit some fake reason why the JPIC read was "interesting"? I don't know. But I do know that the two towny responses to pressure are either folding and just receding from the game (because you can't take it) or trying to argue/fight back and show why you're town/why the person pressuring you is misguided or scum. It isn't townie to just grab some random player that's widely scumread and try to use them as a human shield.
yep, you got a problem with it?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:10 pmYou’re voting your townread?sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:07 pm Applejacks:
DrWilgy
dyachei
Justplayingitcool
MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Poison Chan
Bran Flakes:
Alison
Samusamu
nutella
Juliets
ColinIsCool
Long Con
Oddmerta
staypositivefriend
tedxtr
Timsup2nothin
tutuu
Master Radishes
Dyslexicon
Hally
Herm
I think everyone has posts so I can at the least take out everyone listed as Applejacks. Im gonna OMGUS Alison until i prove to myself she doesnt deserve it. Everyone else is Bran Flakes
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:48 pm Wait, this is like the one site I'm not always town. But I'm town this game. Super promise.
Is it because you're Master Bran Flakes now?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:49 pm I take back what I said about sprit reading the game correctly.
I'm more so pointing out the logic in this and that it highly fits a wolf pattern. I would need Alison to banter with me some more and prove that she actually has a reasoning to her logic.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:53 pmI love bran flakes!sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:51 pmIs it because you're Master Bran Flakes now?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:49 pm I take back what I said about sprit reading the game correctly.
Nah I love the effort, and I think you built a good case. I just think it's predicated too heavily on making her posts fit a narrative you've gotten into your head.
I'm not closing the door in Alison being a wolf, but I'm definitely not ready to go there yet. Not on D1.
Would you at least engage me directly. No pondering about what I would do. Especially when you really don't know what I doAlison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:57 pm Does sprityo have the sheer cojones to hard thunderdome consensus town when under pressure as wolf?
I think no.
Does sprityo have the desperation required to hard thunderdome consensus town when under pressure as wolf?
...maybe? But it would be a weird time to do it now, and not while Mac was calling him out.
IME big ass walls filled with quotes and line by line analysis occur when someone really wants someone else killed and wants to get everyone else on board for real. Hard to see wolf sprityo picking me as the D1 misexe. It would be more on brand for him to try to throw someone else under the bus and float to the top of the POE.
The exclamation points are unnecessary. I'm not some shrill crybaby. You still havent addressed not having any backing to your reads or points. especially meAlison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:06 pm I looked at sprityo's wall to see what all this "scummy logic" stuff was about and the criticism of my case boils down to four main ideas. Here is my response to each of them.
- You flipped your read on me too quickly!
I do that sometimes.
- You're trying to make me look bad!
I often do that to people I scumread, so that other people will vote them.
- You're trying to pocket JPIC!
He's literally in my bottom 2 POE.
- You said you were sheeping ___ for reads, but later on you didn't!
When I say I'm sheeping someone, that doesn't mean I'm copying every word of their readslist.
a) There's definitely been more than one occasion that I have scumread mac but it is not a given. I'm sure Mac would want me to because it's entertaining for him.Alison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:27 pmIt's not clear to me what kind of backing you're looking for. Do you want quotes? Links? Academic citations? When I say "sprityo did this" or "sprityo did that" I assume you know what I'm talking about. If you have some specific point I made that you want me to back up, tell me which ones.
Here's the cliff's notes on my case on you.
a) MacDougall said you'd scumread him if you were town, but you refused to.
b) I think this is scummy.
c) Then, you redirected the conversation from you to JPIC.
d) I think this is you trying to goad Mac into attacking JPIC and either forgetting about the case on you, or townreading you for also scumreading JPIC.
e) I think this is scummy, too.
Feel free to specify a letter and why you don't think that point is adequately supported by logic and I'll get back to you on it.
I think thats just nanook though? At least that's how i felt about him in Upick2MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:29 pm Nanook feels like he's floundering amongst the overt towniness of the game.
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:46 pmCome sheep my wagon on Samu! I have actual reasons!Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:45 pm Well, heck.
I have played the mow intensity goof off game I wanted to play, but now it is three hours to the midpoint of the day, where I post my day one reads, and I got nothin' in particular and haven't taken any notes from which to come up with anything.
Low intensity goofing off turns out to just be procrastination and now I have to make up for it.
Not amused.
really? I was gonna say it was another reach tbh. Then again I haven't paid much attention to samu either so maybe i should go see these "bad reads" alison is talking aboutstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:53 pmi actually like this read because it's incredibly common for mafia/3p to project their roles onto other players without realizing itAlison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:42 pmI actually agree! It was why I was townreading him at first!
But, like, his reads are so bad and disagreeable, and then there was that really, really weird accusation that came totally out of the blue of Mac being Rogue.
Has anyone else even mentioned Rogue besides that joke claim at the very start of the game? No, we've all forgotten that the 3P exists. We're focused on the town vs mafia aspect of the game. Not Samu though! He remembers Rogue exists. Rogue is on his mind, to the point where he rejects much more natural conclusions ("Mac is a mixed bag" "Mac is null" "I can't sort Mac") in favor of a real reach to call Mac 3P. I genuinely believe that this is a >>rand 3P tell, and I can show you a game where 3P outed their alignment exactly like this.
It would explain all the stuff I found confusing about him. He seems so agenda-less and his tone is so pure because he really doesn't have an agenda (or at least not the kind of agenda we expect from scum), and he really isn't trying to manipulate anyone. He's doing something completely different from the war between town and scum. He's giving reads like they're obligatory, because he isn't really invested in solving. They're bad reads because he doesn't put thought into them and he doesn't follow up on them, but they aren't constructed to feed a certain narrative or undermine certain players because he genuinely doesn't care.
To me this read makes a lot of sense and it ties all the threads of Samu's behavior together neatly. I'd really like to sit on this wagon and see how far I can ride it.
No, being voted for a tunneled relentlessly made me mad enough to check if there is a legit reasoning for doing so. Had there been something to go off of then I wouldn’t be so heated about this. If someone is going to come after me they had better be prepared.Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:41 pmWas this "you are scum for scum reading me"? sprityosprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:48 pmAaaaaand That's all I really have. Let's wrap it up outside the spoiler:Spoiler: show
Alison has been making a lot of posts about past games, mechanics kind of? and of course pushing me and really only me. I saw something about Odd and ted here and there but really nothing to support her town reads or her two scum reads. I think Alison is trying to be a deepwolf with minimal effort to be honest. As for who could be her partners I could definitely but down JPIC, Mac, Tutuu, and Hally as potential partners.
-JPIC for how she suddenly scum read them, then didnt, then tried to help them not be scumread
-Mac couldve just been sheeped but there's also the possibility of "lol watch me get sprit mislynched, i've done it before. Just follow my lead"
-Tutuu and Hally are similar to mac, could just be buddy buddy with them and not actually partners.
This looks like a list of:
Paranoia tells me that it might have something to do with:
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Paranoia tells me that it might have something to do with:
Sloonei wrote:Roleclaiming and infodumping may be legal for some, illegal for others.
Mechanics exist which make roleclaiming and infodumping potentially dangerous. Proceed with caution.
You guys sure about this? you want to give me some evidence before i get finished?