The Syndicate

yeah guillo v

cape/tutuu were leading wagons for all of d1

curious nk's indeed

@Epignosis what are your reads and why'd you push cape so hard d1?

Cape90
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DrWilgy
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Epignosis
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falcon45ca
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Guillotine
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33%
Voters: tutuu, falcon45ca, DrWilgy, Rem, pyxxy
pyxxy
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Rem
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robyn
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Seanzie
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Voters: Epignosis
tutuu
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Voters: Guillotine, Seanzie, Zenon, robyn, Cape90
Zenon
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No elimination / Sleep
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Cape90
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DrWilgy
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Epignosis
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falcon45ca
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Guillotine
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27%
Voters: tutuu, falcon45ca, Rem, Zenon
pyxxy
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7%
Voters: DrWilgy
Rem
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robyn
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Seanzie
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7%
Voters: Epignosis
tutuu
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27%
Voters: Guillotine, Seanzie, Cape90, robyn
Zenon
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No elimination / Sleep
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7%
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Cape90
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DrWilgy
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Epignosis
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falcon45ca
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Guillotine
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Voters: tutuu, falcon45ca, Rem
pyxxy
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Voters: Zenon, robyn, DrWilgy
Rem
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robyn
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Seanzie
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7%
Voters: Epignosis
tutuu
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21%
Voters: Guillotine, Seanzie, Cape90
Zenon
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almost missed it

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:53 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I don't like this vote too much.

Oddly enough I feel like if pyxxy is mafia the other is robyn and just her?

Which doesn't feel correct

i'm voting pyxxy as u said this

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:41 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:47 pm cape was pressured by epi at the start and others and had a 5 person wagon riding on him at the start of the day. i don't think he or anyone else expected him to get chopped and he didn't go and try to appear towny out of his way to escape the votes.

the rest of his iso is mostly defensive but as of now i like what i see. i don't see cape being unnecessarily shifty and i don't see any awkward posts/comments. he went and made his analytical posts about others and i didn't see anything wrong. he's a decently strong townread i think but i wouldn’t bet the game on it

I'm confused

If I wasn't going out of my way to be towny but my ISO was mostly defensive what does that mean?

you as a wolf would awkwardly try to be towny which i would suspect which you didn't do. the second is that you have a natural disadvantage towards being seen as pretty townie due to being so defensive. aka i am acknowledging bias

i am not enjoying this game, hopefully that means my mafia addiction has ended, usually i'd be enthralled

aaaaaaaaaaaa

yeah i won't vote for zenon/tutuu/cape as of right now

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:18 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:07 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:11 am gullio seeing tvt violence is something i'll speak about later but it should be obvious what i'm not saying here

not obvious to me, would appreciate an elaboration

@robyn

forgot what i was gonna say

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:43 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:40 am I unironically think that the wolves are triple-stacked on Zenon right now.

i dont believe the derp clear, not from sean. there aren't 3 wolves there's 2

sean pays attention

and sean being wrong means he's mafia probably. i expect better of him

aaaaaaaaa this is so weird

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:33 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:13 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:38 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:17 pm if i squint hard i can maybe consider townlean on guillo, and if i squint really really hard i can maybe consider townlean on zenon and rem

ho matter how hard i squint im struggling to find robyn, sean, cape, pyxxy as town

so my current guess for the wolfteam is 2/4 from those

Robyn is like pretty towny why do you disagree?

i couldnt find her towny at that point

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:30 pm im done trying to push the game forward if people dont have too much time to play / or they dont want to - thats ok ill just accept that and ill give up too

these and the posts between this are annoyingly towny

reads like genuine solving and any wolf worth their salt does better than to spend 20+ minutes doing those few posts. a wolf would end up being insidious and i see more "real" solving. and then getting upset about not live chatting with anyone after those 20 minutes and this is the second time tutuu has cared about how the pace of the game. the first was with me at the start of the game which they townread iirc

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:13 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:38 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:17 pm if i squint hard i can maybe consider townlean on guillo, and if i squint really really hard i can maybe consider townlean on zenon and rem

ho matter how hard i squint im struggling to find robyn, sean, cape, pyxxy as town

so my current guess for the wolfteam is 2/4 from those

Robyn is like pretty towny why do you disagree?

i couldnt find her towny at that point

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:30 pm im done trying to push the game forward if people dont have too much time to play / or they dont want to - thats ok ill just accept that and ill give up too

these and the posts between this are annoyingly towny

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:13 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:03 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:19 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:15 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:49 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:47 pm i'll try to play more tight than normal usually i play loose but im in a tryhard mood

proof: i was about to gut townread robyn for silent voting me and slapping rem around. IF i were to play loose like normal. but not today. we're playing solid today. conservative

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine


Being conservative is anti-thetical to the nature of tutuu

yea. but i want to win more

I don't find this towny, to change one's playstyle in order to win. In fact I find it quite wolfy


[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

you're probably town for making this push

one thing that jumped out early in tutuu's iso was that he was very easily giving out reads. me/guillo/wigly etc and he himself acknowledged that they were given too easily and this was possible since cape was already a wagon at this point

but this interaction is another interesting thing. "you're probably town for making this push" this just reads like townreading an accuser and not even caring about why he is town for making "this push" feels weird

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:23 pm im very happy with the activity so far, i think this is more than we usually get. i appreciate all of you for lending the time

this is a weird fuckin post, 100 posts in 4h isn't active and it's definitely more active than most syndicate players and why is he thanking people? feels out of place

i have a REALLY bad zenon read, i won't even try. wigly/rem/tutuu think zenon is obv town so i'll gladly sponge that

i should iso tutuu first

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:58 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:56 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:54 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:48 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:46 pm I am at page 16 and I'm 98% sure Zenon is town here.

Zenon voters should be beat with a stick.

Though two of the Zenon voters are towny.

Cape is not a towny Zenon voter.

I will petition for my Cape wagon to return!

can you explain why you don't find cape towny?

right now it's just gut between the Zenon voters (other's being Epi and Tutuu, and if there was a wolf hunting for obvtown Zenon, it was likely Cape). I had that early read and haven't seen anything to shake that read.

Though I'll say that I'm still mid skim and that this is a 31% informed opinion.

are you gonna be able to meaningfully participate in the next 4h?

What do you think I'm doin now silly goose?

yeah but i didn't know if you'd be on until eod or not

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:00 am

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:56 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:49 pmRobyn Wolf

elaborate

You entered and placed doubt on yourself and capacities. Wolves are .0007% more likely to do this as an excuse for one's own play.

fuck nvm i asked already

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:49 pm Cape Wolf
Falcon Town
Robyn Wolf
Rem Town
Tutuu Town
Epi Town

do you remember why you called me a wolf here?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:54 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:48 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:46 pm I am at page 16 and I'm 98% sure Zenon is town here.

Zenon voters should be beat with a stick.

Though two of the Zenon voters are towny.

Cape is not a towny Zenon voter.

I will petition for my Cape wagon to return!

can you explain why you don't find cape towny?

right now it's just gut between the Zenon voters (other's being Epi and Tutuu, and if there was a wolf hunting for obvtown Zenon, it was likely Cape). I had that early read and haven't seen anything to shake that read.

Though I'll say that I'm still mid skim and that this is a 31% informed opinion.

are you gonna be able to meaningfully participate in the next 4h?

zenon has 245 posts what the fuck

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:46 pm I am at page 16 and I'm 98% sure Zenon is town here.

Zenon voters should be beat with a stick.

Though two of the Zenon voters are towny.

Cape is not a towny Zenon voter.

I will petition for my Cape wagon to return!

can you explain why you don't find cape towny?

cape was pressured by epi at the start and others and had a 5 person wagon riding on him at the start of the day. i don't think he or anyone else expected him to get chopped and he didn't go and try to appear towny out of his way to escape the votes.

the rest of his iso is mostly defensive but as of now i like what i see. i don't see cape being unnecessarily shifty and i don't see any awkward posts/comments. he went and made his analytical posts about others and i didn't see anything wrong. he's a decently strong townread i think but i wouldn’t bet the game on it

welp time to start playing this game

dad canceled rip, can't say that i'm too surprised

@Epignosis curious about your read on me btw

i'm seeing oppenheimer with my dad soon

i'll be on tomorrow for the 6h~ until eod

doctors find anything, zenon?

i was probably over critical @Tutuu
sorry
i find people through depth of thought a lot of the time and i don't understand your pov

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:00 pm Ok fine u can be town. I didnt suspect u for that reason tho, i just said im not finding u as town at that point

what made you find me as town? some words should be insufficient when i literally stated that "i am a powerful and i get my hands dirty" so can you explain why. idk why but you aren't thinking deeply for some reason

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:04 pm Ill townread sean and ill make the read that at least 1 wolf has defended his entrance from wilgy, cape, falcon, robyn

i didn't defend his entrance

epi and wigly are probably the most interesting slots to me rn, i shall ask them things later, i gtg for now

i should iso wigly and rem
cape's recent posts are better

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:47 pm im struggling already, i have a gut feeling i already made a wrong read. ill rewind back time. epi wilgy town, sean lean wolf. ignore other reads i made recently. never happened

this is a good mindmeld sort of, i thought about the implications of this when writing my post and you saying it before me is just good

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:42 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:39 pm you know i'm a powerwolf and have no trouble making reads and getting my hands dirty, so i fail to see how my play here which is relaxing and sitting back compared to my normal play is actually alignment indicative. our last game was me trying to town lead and getting d1ed for it

also pyxxy and sean both have 2 posts each. cape hasn't really been towny. so i pose the question to you about how towny everyone has actually been assuming once pyxxy and sean post more they are suddenly towny

from what i've been reading there has been minimal content thus far. or i'm just rusty

i dont think pyx and sean will be seen as towny if they continue what they're doing. i think you're asking me this in response to my post at you but im struggling to find the connections

seems pretty simple. because what you said wasn’t well thought out. "you're currently sitting comfortably and you're currently set to live to endgame if nobody changes their reads too much" is an INSANE sentence to suspect me off and it's wrong for two important reasons 1) i'm a powerwolf and i get involved and i actively push chops and get people to townread whoever i'm wolfing with 2) have you ever played a game where everyone didn't change their stances much, especially writing that post halfway into d1. i don't understand that train of thought at all, it's blatantly wrong and i don't have to think that hard to come up an argument

the second point is rather simple. pyxxy and seanzie have a combined post count of 4. you say "i dont think pyx and sean will be seen as towny if they continue what they're doing" which is once again obviously wrong. people were nai on seanzie's entry and it was nai and pyxxy simply has no posts that are relevant to the game. so i don't actually understand what you mean by the aforementioned quote. they can both post towny as scum, particularly pyxxy and it's not like you're reading into anything actually alignment indicative which gives you 0 information at all about how potentially scummy and how potentially towny they will both be

so to be blunt. i don't think what you're saying makes sense and i think everyone you suspect is low hanging fruit and you haven't given actual reasons. the good faith interpretation is that you're just townreading everyone sorta like me and you're looking into the players a bit too one dimensionally and not considering the fact there are plenty of great wolves here and targeting low posters is ill advised. another good faith interpretation is that i don't think your worldview is well thought out at all and it seems like from my perspective at this moment you are the one who is laying back and suspecting people who are easy to suspect and because of two facts i don't really find you scummy at all right now. the first being that being that wolves have worldview that is too well thought out proportionally for their effort. the second is that the views/effort/stances of players are never stagnant in mafia

@Cape90 can you post a tentative readslist, also besides epi who's your top SR and why

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:34 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:21 am i feel like i must take a more definitive stance on cape because part of me thinks he's caught and part of me thinks that this is typical town cape being d1ed. but he hasn't been obviously town to me thus far and he normally is. i'm leaning towards the former. however i'm like too fucking volatile in this stance and this is most likely due to it being 11h into d1

i'll give more reads tomorrow. everyone else just seems pretty towny to me

sounds like you flipped scum... maybe idk

I feel like I have been pretty clear

eloquence wise you've been clear, i haven't been able to god read you just yet

you know i'm a powerwolf and have no trouble making reads and getting my hands dirty, so i fail to see how my play here which is relaxing and sitting back compared to my normal play is actually alignment indicative. our last game was me trying to town lead and getting d1ed for it

also pyxxy and sean both have 2 posts each. cape hasn't really been towny. so i pose the question to you about how towny everyone has actually been assuming once pyxxy and sean post more they are suddenly towny

from what i've been reading there has been minimal content thus far. or i'm just rusty

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:17 pmrobyn

what made you go from seeing me as town at sod to seeing me as mafia now?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:53 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:19 am Need to see more from @pyxxy @falcon45ca please

*The phone number you are trying to reach has been disconnected. Please hang up and try a different number.*

speak of the twink and he shall appear

i feel like i must take a more definitive stance on cape because part of me thinks he's caught and part of me thinks that this is typical town cape being d1ed. but he hasn't been obviously town to me thus far and he normally is. i'm leaning towards the former. however i'm like too fucking volatile in this stance and this is most likely due to it being 11h into d1

i'll give more reads tomorrow. everyone else just seems pretty towny to me

zenon often townreads me prematurely, that's nai but it's worrying from any other player

gullio seeing tvt violence is something i'll speak about later but it should be obvious what i'm not saying here

@DrWilgy how serious is your cape vote, you haven't said much

this is the most effort i've ever seen epi put into a game

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:57 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:56 pm ok fine epi towncore

although personally i wouldnt scumread cape for hedging, i find his tone naturally wolfy, he gets himself mischopped A TON

but i will say that him coming up with these elaborate explanations for his reads could be suspicious. i think most players who play loose early on and make a ton of reads - theyre just freeballing (see what wilgy did), and generally dont explain much, coming from town. explanations doesnt necessarily make one scum, but it does feel odd to me

I just thought that a wolf is .0000000000002% more likely to immediately copy another player.

yeah can't disagree, this is my first game in a few months and i don't know how seriously i wanna play. judging by my previous posts it's looking like fairly seriously

i don't have an exact read on cape rn, he'll make himself obvious later on if he hasn't already

everyone else seems ~fine and epi seems particularly towny

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:49 pmRobyn Wolf

elaborate