The Syndicate

Look at tutuu now:

Her wagon died and she has put in any effort in solving and engaging with the game.

Hasnt tried or even attempted to make a scum case on me.

Is this not odd to yall

Am I crazy

Is this fucking karma for my wolf Rands

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:12 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:05 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:04 pm That you align with my view of what wolves would be doing in this game state and Tutuu does not

All tutuu did was vote falcon or me all day?

Please tell me how is that not static?

Because you were not a main wagon. They are not trying to keep the status quo

The status quo was her and falcon

What is she going to do self vote???

Really neon really.

I'm sorry I don't have positive energy and incredible wim right now that can garner me easy townreads.

This is me being my real self.

I'm not trying to pocket or fucking shade people or whatever.

I'm trying to be raw and truthful.

Take it or kill me over it.

Tutuu when asked why they voted falcon: oh for self pres

Tutuu when asked why they voted me: lucy legacy

That's it.

Where's the townie mindset in any of this???

This is frozen

What has tutuu done?

Tutuu keeps echoing lucy read on me (and ignoring lucy read), voted falcon as self pres and me, etc.

I on the other hand have said tutuu is a wolf and has been literally doing wolf shit. Sorry I have fucking voted falcon. My bad I didn't realize that was on the memo to be town.

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:04 pm That you align with my view of what wolves would be doing in this game state and Tutuu does not

All tutuu did was vote falcon or me all day?

Please tell me how is that not static?

Falcon/Tutuu were heavily sr all day?

It's not like they weren't topics of the day.

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:00 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:56 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:52 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:01 am I've put aside my sabi worry too solve within the more pressing concerns

Tutuu and falcon.

Sabi work with me what are you feeling in a much detail as possible. What do you think of these wagon comps?

At the moment:

Tutuu has literally uwued her wagon to be dead. Her solving this game has been wolfsided through out.

You know how tutuu usually is bouncing around the game with different solves and world views. This game she has been like stuck on me (even tho she keeps saying she has no case on me and ignores lucy legacy on her).

The fact her wagon is dying like this is scaring me.

Falcon: I get why Sean sr him but to use D2 as the day to push falcon esp when we didn't have much info from eod1 is just like ugh. The wagon dying is also weird. I do think his posting in the last few hours have some shades of town falcon so I'm rethinking.

What are your thoughts

Mostly I don't like the staticness of the wagons all day. I'm still not TRing Tutuu but I've noticed people who are pretty heavily SRd just not being pushed and I've noticed the wagons have been static all game. Feels like woofs are content to let town kill itself. Now the question is what players align with that?

Tutuu doesn't really Tutuu has been willing to try to form new wagons.

Unfortunately you are kinda like that. You've heavily been focused on keeping the status quo.

Low posters also like that. I don't think I've been like that. Or Porscha or Lily.

I'm confused on what you're trying to say.

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:52 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:01 am I've put aside my sabi worry too solve within the more pressing concerns

Tutuu and falcon.

Sabi work with me what are you feeling in a much detail as possible. What do you think of these wagon comps?

At the moment:

Tutuu has literally uwued her wagon to be dead. Her solving this game has been wolfsided through out.

You know how tutuu usually is bouncing around the game with different solves and world views. This game she has been like stuck on me (even tho she keeps saying she has no case on me and ignores lucy legacy on her).

The fact her wagon is dying like this is scaring me.

Falcon: I get why Sean sr him but to use D2 as the day to push falcon esp when we didn't have much info from eod1 is just like ugh. The wagon dying is also weird. I do think his posting in the last few hours have some shades of town falcon so I'm rethinking.

What are your thoughts

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:49 pm Mmm AtE is not the way. But helping me by answering my earlier questions is the way.

What questions because I'm a bit annoyed.

No one wants to fucking work with me except neon.

Everyone saw my name in pl and thought sabi is wolf and has given me zero benefit of the doubt.

THE SOLVE IS TUTUU.

TUTUU HAS BEEN PUSHING ME WITH ZERO SCUM CASE AND YALL ARE EATING IT UP.

WHAT INFO DO YOU GET WHEN I FLIP TOWN

PLEASE LET ME KNOW

I really should have stayed retired.

I'M TOWN.

I LITERALLY WILL SELF VOTE AND FLIP TOWN AND YALL BE HAPPY

Falcon having a pulse makes me feel better about him

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:42 pm @tutuu In the wise words of Mariah Carey: why are you so obsessed with me?

Quite literally for someone who has no scum case on me you can talking about me.

Won't talk about your town reads or your actual scum reads.

It's just been me and it's weird.

You would think you would try to do something today

You keep talking about me **

@Neon just got off work so I'm available for you

@tutuu In the wise words of Mariah Carey: why are you so obsessed with me?

Quite literally for someone who has no scum case on me you can talking about me.

Won't talk about your town reads or your actual scum reads.

It's just been me and it's weird.

You would think you would try to do something today

I have no idea how to feel about pyxxy Seanzie and tutuu vote hopping

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:29 pm [VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

Why the change

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:01 am I've put aside my sabi worry too solve within the more pressing concerns

Tutuu and falcon.

Sabi work with me what are you feeling in a much detail as possible. What do you think of these wagon comps?

I can be detailed once I'm off work

Ahhh I said I wasn't going to push today so I'm not but ahhhhhh

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:47 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:46 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:45 am i would advise u guys to rethink your townreads on sabi (as sabi is mafia)

Why don't you rethink your scumread on them instead

no im sheeping lucy lucy would never be wrong on a scumread

She literally scumread you

What is Porscha making in the kitchen today

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:39 am Lol mom just caught me in the kitchen and told me to go to bed

Mmmmm I think not

@Kate

I miss drunk lily

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:49 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:01 am (actually ignore me for the moment sean looks like you're cooking here )

This is a post that I kind of want to say just comes from town, but i don't feel super confident about it. Does anyone find this post wolfy/townie-but-not-that-townie/otherwise?

I was late to answer this

NAI

I'm taking Seanzie notes in consideration and will iso lily soon

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:55 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:34 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:21 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:12 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:08 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:08 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:02 am I keep going lower and lower. Neat

I have had you as exactly null the whole time. Why do you feel like you're getting lower?

You even called me out on saying you were null, but without gusto.

I didn't realize the tiers were unsorted till you mentioned it after my post smh.

I dunno.

I'm just like annoyed a bit because I'm trying hard to be towny and everyone is like omg sabi wolf or I can't find sabi.

I am willing to find you townie, but I have not gotten the feeling that you're trying hard to be townie. Perhaps I am missing something.

Are you able to point to particularly townie things you've done? I have another question, but I'd like to see the answer to this one first since sometimes if I ask two questions, one of them is ignored.

I feel like I have been a lot more free with my thoughts and reads and have been trying to solve people. Which omg sabi can just copy that as wolf.

I'm sorry if I ignored stuff. Adhd brain.

oh hey you're here too, same question as for Seanzie, does (town) falcon make himself readable when vote pressure is applied?

I'm going to be quite honest I have zero idea.

Falcon is an enigma. He has only wolfed against me once and it was my first ever syndicate game. He posted twice the whole game and never posted again.

But usually when he's town he posts something of game related.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:21 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:12 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:08 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:08 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:02 am I keep going lower and lower. Neat

I have had you as exactly null the whole time. Why do you feel like you're getting lower?

You even called me out on saying you were null, but without gusto.

I didn't realize the tiers were unsorted till you mentioned it after my post smh.

I dunno.

I'm just like annoyed a bit because I'm trying hard to be towny and everyone is like omg sabi wolf or I can't find sabi.

I am willing to find you townie, but I have not gotten the feeling that you're trying hard to be townie. Perhaps I am missing something.

Are you able to point to particularly townie things you've done? I have another question, but I'd like to see the answer to this one first since sometimes if I ask two questions, one of them is ignored.

I feel like I have been a lot more free with my thoughts and reads and have been trying to solve people. Which omg sabi can just copy that as wolf.

I'm sorry if I ignored stuff. Adhd brain.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:08 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:08 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:02 am I keep going lower and lower. Neat

I have had you as exactly null the whole time. Why do you feel like you're getting lower?

You even called me out on saying you were null, but without gusto.

I didn't realize the tiers were unsorted till you mentioned it after my post smh.

I dunno.

I'm just like annoyed a bit because I'm trying hard to be towny and everyone is like omg sabi wolf or I can't find sabi.

I keep going lower and lower. Neat

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:39 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:37 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:32 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:38 pm Sheeping dead town is a tactic wolves do to townside and so they aren't held accountable.

Which is what tutuu is doing

But I said I wasn't going to push people today because I don't want to be accused of power wolfing.

If shes mafia and wants to townside idc tbh

How has she town sided?

Literally in the quote of you here you said it's a tactic mafia use to townside smh

I mean it's to spear to townside but not actually townside.

Idk anymore

Ignore me

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:32 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:38 pm Sheeping dead town is a tactic wolves do to townside and so they aren't held accountable.

Which is what tutuu is doing

But I said I wasn't going to push people today because I don't want to be accused of power wolfing.

If shes mafia and wants to townside idc tbh

How has she town sided?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:56 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:44 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:26 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:09 pm I Eman yall can flip me today. I don't care and it will show in not aligned with tutuu at all.

I. Don't want to spend my time on a game if I push anyone it's omg sabi a wolf again. I'm playing the game and trying to solve

I'm sorry you're getting that feeling, but if it is based off my comment, I don't think this is a fair assessment. I'm allowed to have some suspicion on you, and I'm still willing to work with you, but I do need to express thoughts about you.

Play the game, try to solve, let's work together. Can you remind me of who is in your towncore and who you suspect currently?

This was geared towards Wilgz and Neon who have just resorted to omg sabi wolfy for pushing their scumreads how dare they.

Anyway

I already mentioned it.

Town - 100% confidence:
Wwa
Porscha
You
Dennis

Town lead - 75% confidence:
Lily

Town side of null - 60% confidence:
Pyxxy
Neon
Wilgz

Everyone else scummy pile:
Nook
Falcon
Tutuu

Can you elaborate on Dennis and Nook? If you still have energy, Wilgy as well.

Dennis - I have wolfed with him and seen him wolf against me and have been town with him. He's kinda polarized. When he's wolf he struggles with giving reads and Content. He also doesn't shake the boat and goes the pockety route. This game he has given reads and has been trying to shake the boat in terms of reads. If he was wolf he could easily jump on the sabi is wolf train since he has the Fear ™ but he hasn't. He tone seems very natural this game and not uncomfortable like he was in a few other games. He is also solving and trying to build world views.

Nook - he hasn't towntold once at this point of the game. He usually does and is an easy read. He just been wallpaper in your basement bathroom. Just exists there and hasn't done anything. Like yes town Nook usually does nothing but he usually has some energy. Even before the incidents of day one, he has given nothing. I'm also quite bother by his constant check ins asking about the state of the game when it has been like two pages since his last check in which he can easily read while waiting for responses. Like he has no drive or need to solve this game. Just pedestrian.


Wilgz - he's better now than D1. His convo with me and how he was trying to solve me gives me some sort of hope he's town who hasn't found his spunk this game.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:47 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:03 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:13 am
@Neon
Vote Counts

Day 1

Spoiler: show

9 - lucy => arogame123 - pyxxy, Seanzie, Sabiplz, falcon45ca, WindwardAway, Dennis, Lilypetal, Porscha, DrWilgy
3 - pyxxy => NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, tutuu, Neon
1 - falcon45ca => arogame123
1 - Sabiplz => RondoDimBuckle

I still think sabi and pyx can be paired

Outside sabi pyx I would look at Dennis

Lower tier would be like Falc Lily Porscha

can you like solve outside of me because you are not reading me at all and just forcing me to be paired with either tutuu and pyxxy and like you are wasting your time with that since I'm town.

Go through all my wolf isos and point out all the times I made a reads list for every player in the game and had overwhelming a lot of them as town?

I'm waiting.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:26 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:09 pm I Eman yall can flip me today. I don't care and it will show in not aligned with tutuu at all.

I. Don't want to spend my time on a game if I push anyone it's omg sabi a wolf again. I'm playing the game and trying to solve

I'm sorry you're getting that feeling, but if it is based off my comment, I don't think this is a fair assessment. I'm allowed to have some suspicion on you, and I'm still willing to work with you, but I do need to express thoughts about you.

Play the game, try to solve, let's work together. Can you remind me of who is in your towncore and who you suspect currently?

This was geared towards Wilgz and Neon who have just resorted to omg sabi wolfy for pushing their scumreads how dare they.

Anyway

I already mentioned it.

Town - 100% confidence:
Wwa
Porscha
You
Dennis

Town lead - 75% confidence:
Lily

Town side of null - 60% confidence:
Pyxxy
Neon
Wilgz

Everyone else scummy pile:
Nook
Falcon
Tutuu

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:28 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:11 pm @Seanzie in what ways did I push lucy in bad faith? I solve based off meta. A lot of people pushed her because of hedgehog.

@Neon if you are going to pair me with every one that's scummy, it's fucking annoying. I'm allowed to push my scum reads and don't want to be called I'm paired with them. Get new material already

Again, as I said in my post, what you did isn't necessarily wolf-indicative, but a push based on meta is very easy for a wolf to do, and I can't remember you really bringing things specific to this game into the argument, simply that Lucy looked similar to Hedgehog!Lucy, which is almost impossible to argue against since "looks similar to" is not well-defined. Your push was the sort that more likely comes from wolf than town, but doesn't need to.

It was D1, I'm going to make reads based off meta.

I can bring up every game she has melted down like that as scum.

She even told me personally I. Played terribly when I was pushing for her yeet when she was wolf in a game. So yes I'm sorry for saying she was doing her wolf tells.

Sheeping dead town is a tactic wolves do to townside and so they aren't held accountable.

Which is what tutuu is doing

But I said I wasn't going to push people today because I don't want to be accused of power wolfing.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:09 pm I Eman yall can flip me today. I don't care and it will show in not aligned with tutuu at all.

I. Don't want to spend my time on a game if I push anyone it's omg sabi a wolf again. I'm playing the game and trying to solve

Newsflash: in order for me to solve I need to push people to either towntell or perish

@Seanzie in what ways did I push lucy in bad faith? I solve based off meta. A lot of people pushed her because of hedgehog.

@Neon if you are going to pair me with every one that's scummy, it's fucking annoying. I'm allowed to push my scum reads and don't want to be called I'm paired with them. Get new material already

I Eman yall can flip me today. I don't care and it will show in not aligned with tutuu at all.

I. Don't want to spend my time on a game if I push anyone it's omg sabi a wolf again. I'm playing the game and trying to solve

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:45 pm I've been as productive and helpful to town as I can be with almost nobody engaging me

I have engaged wit you

I just don't know what to do.

Game is blob

Everyone has been scumread this game

Is this game just everyone being a blob

Which are????

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:03 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:39 pm I have never seen Nook this disengaged in a game before and it's annoying me in ways I can't explain.

Like most of his iso is: "hey what happened, oh nothing OK bye"

Like??????????????

It happens, particularly when d1 is

Less than fun

I have reads and I've given them, it's otherwise fairly difficult to get invested

Do you have any game content for D2?

I have never seen Nook this disengaged in a game before and it's annoying me in ways I can't explain.

Like most of his iso is: "hey what happened, oh nothing OK bye"

Like??????????????

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:06 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:23 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:40 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:26 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:14 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:57 pm If you want to conf bias me leaving you be Wilgz as scum motivated then go ahead. I can't change your mind.

I can't win in any situation because eif I kept pushing you I would be scummy. If I give you breathing room I'm scummy.

Fuck me.

I don't think that I'm at the point where I'm conf biased at this stage, I needed to understand why I may have this guy take and I think I've accomplished that at least now.

I think it's also not a matter of pushing me vs giving me room, it was how you interacted with me. You gave me room yes, but we're in a negative stance. You asked for my opinions on the low posters specifically and I don't know why. You've also not actually interfaced with the reads I have made implying that I'm just copying someone else. I want to know why you think these things, not that you think them.

I hope that makes sense. I don't mean to make you feel damned if you do damned if you don't because I totally get how that could hurt wim.

OK so why I ask for Nook and falcon:

- they weren't that talked about in the thread so I wanted organic, non gmo, vegan Wilgz content

- you know them both better than I do hence why I wanted your takes on them.

---

The reasons why I thought your Sean and Porscha reads felt cotton candy because everyone had stated those reads. It felt like you were not saying your own thoughts.

Anything else?

Fair enough, was it just those two or are there any others that seem to be laying low? Or has everyone kinda come to the table at this point?

Re Porscha Seanzie, do you also agree with the reads even if there were others that voiced it prior? Is it not or less likely that I'm in agreement with those voice because it seems clear?

I guess the only people left has been like neon lily and Dennis in terms of in depth/not totally confident talk so far. (I do confidently townread Dennis out of this list).

Yes I agreed with those reads. I feel like I had made that abundantly clear? It's not that the read was unagreeable for me. It was the fact it didn't feel like your own thoughts because it was common belief in thread.

Like I just wanted original Wilgz takes that weren't already mentioned in thread. It's how I usually read you because town you is know for having reads that tend to be off the beaten path.

I dunno if I make sense but I feel like I repeated this like five thousand times and I don't think you are understanding me

Ty. I'll see if I can glean data from this or if I agree with this.

So, thread common beliefs are somewhat interesting. They can be analyzed from a perspective of "are these beliefs common because it benefits wolves" or "are these beliefs common because it would be too difficult for wolves to oppose them." Did my thoughts belong to one of these categories?

And no, it makes sense, however as we are discussing and that will help me read you, I think it's imperative that I continue pressing where I can because I'm unsure on your slot.

It belonged to "didn't want to stick out from the thread" camp. Like I said your reads are usually off the beaten path. I at the time was thinking you didn't want to stick out and wanted to seem like you're contributing.

How and why are you still unsure of my slot?

Would I be doing all of this as wolf or town?