The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:19 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:21 pm the flawed perspective of killing Epi today:

If nook is correct and made is opposite Epi, and Wilgy claims Epi is town, we run into a conundrum.

If Epi is town, all we know is that Wilgy called him town. This doesn’t prove wilgy’s alignment.
Also, this doesn’t prove made is actually opposite of made, because we still don’t know if nook is just mafia spreading misinformation. Then we’re down a town without knowing if rondo and made are cleartown

What are the exact claims made about me, and could you link them please?

Anybody can answer this.

I'd appreciate it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:21 pm the flawed perspective of killing Epi today:

If nook is correct and made is opposite Epi, and Wilgy claims Epi is town, we run into a conundrum.

If Epi is town, all we know is that Wilgy called him town. This doesn’t prove wilgy’s alignment.
Also, this doesn’t prove made is actually opposite of made, because we still don’t know if nook is just mafia spreading misinformation. Then we’re down a town without knowing if rondo and made are cleartown

What are the exact claims made about me, and could you link them please?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:02 pm ENDER was also in wilgy's ass

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:06 pm Also Ender was hard

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:06 pm i guess epi + wilgy + rondo + boknows team could make sense. nothing too crazy, i can believe it

Why "could" it make sense?

What leads to believe I am teammates with Wilgy and Rondo and BoKnows?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:47 pm but maybe the simpler world is just epi

because the poison came from 112 giving it to people

mafia doesnt have a poisoner i believe

sooooooo

yea we should chop epi i think

if bo and epi are both town we only lose to a team thats like ... tsp + sig + poison or some weird shit

but if so props to them for being ballsy with claims and stuff. and like what can we do, i think we'd have put valiant effort

but yea i thhink the simplest thing is to chop epi and see bo's flip and hope we still in this

What makes it simpler?

And why is simpler correct?

I'm on page 138. I don't believe tutuu believes a sonofabitching thing tutuu has posted.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:25 pm Are Soupkills often a mafia or 3p ability on y'alls experience?

I think I've played like 1 game with them.

There's no indication that I've seen that this exists here.

Switched to no vote.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:46 pm Great job on the Radish thing

Thank you! I appreciate the kind wo-

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:50 pm
I'm about 75% sure Epi is mafia, but have no evidence to back it up.

Beer can is empty.

Bed is warm.

Boobs.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:13 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:12 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:56 am just be me or i missed something, how come 112 and TSP are willing to talk about their action and rondo just declared that he claimed before i posted.

what is going on?

Because one of us are scum and I know I am not so I am pointing to the evidence that it isnt one of us 3. 33% chance, its one of those two 50% chance

does the monty hall problem apply here?

Always switch doors.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:12 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:12 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:10 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:09 am but idk syn/BK just does not give a damn about the game, would scum be that careless? who has scum!syn meta?

Scum being careless and not all there?

I mean yea

[VOTE: Bo] aubergine

Sure

I thought I was mafia Scotty? Now you're voting with me?

I would have to be drunk or incompetent to think you wouldn’t bus your own teammate at some point

Come on

Okay, that's genuinely funny.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:10 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:09 am but idk syn/BK just does not give a damn about the game, would scum be that careless? who has scum!syn meta?

Scum being careless and not all there?

I mean yea

[VOTE: Bo] aubergine

Sure

I thought I was mafia Scotty? Now you're voting with me?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:07 am I want each person to ask why MasterRadishes voted dya at the last minute.

And I mean answer why. Just to cut off any smart asses.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:07 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:04 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:59 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:57 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:56 am huh well what do u know. aint that a thing

i wish towncore was bigger

only people i trust are scotty nook ender urist

why are we trusting nook so much btw?

insistance on chopping epi, seemingly independent agenda, and im sheeping alison. she also said she has a tiny mech thing on him that she thinks is towny

Lies.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:19 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:17 pm But i'm just going to stay on epi or tutuu forever until either they're dead or i am

I am not voting Epi unless there is a dayvig counterclaim.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:15 pm I don't think Epi would have taken the Axe vig threat seriously given who Axe is. If he's scum he probably just wanted to blast a townie then claim dayvig and skate by. The alternative is that he quietly shoots Mac with no accountability, which is what I would have done.

sheeping alison (on nook town)

Gotcha. I'm tired. I misread.

I want each person to ask why MasterRadishes voted dya at the last minute.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:59 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:57 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:56 am huh well what do u know. aint that a thing

i wish towncore was bigger

only people i trust are scotty nook ender urist

why are we trusting nook so much btw?

insistance on chopping epi, seemingly independent agenda, and im sheeping alison. she also said she has a tiny mech thing on him that she thinks is towny

Lies.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:19 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:17 pm But i'm just going to stay on epi or tutuu forever until either they're dead or i am

I am not voting Epi unless there is a dayvig counterclaim.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:15 pm I don't think Epi would have taken the Axe vig threat seriously given who Axe is. If he's scum he probably just wanted to blast a townie then claim dayvig and skate by. The alternative is that he quietly shoots Mac with no accountability, which is what I would have done.

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:57 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:56 am huh well what do u know. aint that a thing

i wish towncore was bigger

only people i trust are scotty nook ender urist

why are we trusting nook so much btw?

I'm not.

"If BK roleclaims I can probably verify it" is the most ridiculous thing I've seen.

112 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:43 am if BK roleclaims I can probably verify it.

Who cares?

Aren't fake claims all the rage now?

BK claims a role. Great.

How do you verify it and how do you prove BK is good and not bad?

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:32 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:32 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:31 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:29 pm one of TSP-112-Rondo doesn't have the same alignment as me, one of them is guaranteed anti-town.

That begs the question, doesn't it?

fair point

what's the question

"Begging the question" means that your conclusion is supported by something that we don't know to be true (namely, your alignment).

What I meant was that I don't know your alignment, so you could be mafia and your information doesn't mean anything to me.

Hope that makes sense.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:31 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:30 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:28 am actually anybody talk to me on Rondo

Why Rondo?

poison has some form of a parity check

I don't really care about powers today.

I believe Master Radishes is partnered with BoKnows.

Do you disagree? Why or why not?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:28 am actually anybody talk to me on Rondo

Why Rondo?

I'm tired and heading to sleep after this beer. If anybody wants anything from me, ask now.

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:23 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:07 am Right now, as in this moment, Poison looks like someone who is not thrilled about the prospect of BoKnows going to meet the Maker.

right. I am trying to decipher my night action adventures atm.

what's the maker?

God. The Lord. The Man Upstairs. He Who Shall Not Be Named (if you are of certain Jewishness).

Right now, as in this moment, Poison looks like someone who is not thrilled about the prospect of BoKnows going to meet the Maker.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:36 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:30 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:37 pm Voters: MacDougall, KZA, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Michelle, Epignosis, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
Michelle

For my own reference.

I'll pass on Michelle.

That leaves me with Nanook, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Rondo, and Ender.

Nanook is all grunts. Whatever.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:18 am [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:00 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:59 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:58 pm Just got home from a party.

Who am I voting for?

This is wolf

It is not. I've missed 600 posts and didn't know Dya was in the game.

This second post was two minutes before the deadline.

The move from Scotty (who is a civilian, correct?) to Dya at the eleventh hour without any context or care looks like shit.

Perhaps this has been talked about and I haven't read it, but Master Radishes came in, voted Dya without knowing Dya was in the game. That's how it reads to me right now.

I arrived home right before the deadline. I was hundreds of posts behind, Syn and Dya were the wagon options, and the one I was on was dead. I noticed Dya was now in the game but didn't have time to figure out why they had a wagon; all I saw was that it was the one with the most last minute momentum and a lot of people I townread were on it. I didn't have time to parse the nuances of it, so I just sheeped Mac, KZA, and Rondo.

Epi is flat town too lmao.

I will take no dissent on this for now.

Can we do Mafia 101?

What did we learn from this Master Radishes post?

I caught MR because MR voted Dya at the end of the Day for no damn reason. MR even said "I didn't know Dya was in the game."

Okay.

Let's go back to Day 1 then:

Creature/dyachei
9
30%
Voters: MacDougall, KZA, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Michelle, Epignosis, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
Michelle

Syn
8
27%
Voters: sig, Poison, Ruri, Made, Scotty, DrWilgy, tutuu, dyachei
112

Syn is now BoKnows.

That tells me all I needs to knows.

[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:29 pm one of TSP-112-Rondo doesn't have the same alignment as me, one of them is guaranteed anti-town.

That begs the question, doesn't it?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:36 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:30 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:37 pm Voters: MacDougall, KZA, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Michelle, Epignosis, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
Michelle

For my own reference.

I'll pass on Michelle.

That leaves me with Nanook, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Rondo, and Ender.

Nanook is all grunts. Whatever.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:18 am [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:00 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:59 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:58 pm Just got home from a party.

Who am I voting for?

This is wolf

It is not. I've missed 600 posts and didn't know Dya was in the game.

This second post was two minutes before the deadline.

The move from Scotty (who is a civilian, correct?) to Dya at the eleventh hour without any context or care looks like shit.

Perhaps this has been talked about and I haven't read it, but Master Radishes came in, voted Dya without knowing Dya was in the game. That's how it reads to me right now.

I arrived home right before the deadline. I was hundreds of posts behind, Syn and Dya were the wagon options, and the one I was on was dead. I noticed Dya was now in the game but didn't have time to figure out why they had a wagon; all I saw was that it was the one with the most last minute momentum and a lot of people I townread were on it. I didn't have time to parse the nuances of it, so I just sheeped Mac, KZA, and Rondo.

Epi is flat town too lmao.

I will take no dissent on this for now.

What do you make of those that want to keep the door of suspicion on me open?

I count Nanook, Scotty, tutuu, 112.

I think it's quite obvious I'm not mafia, but at least these four wish to continue to entertain the notion.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:31 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:06 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:46 pm if epi is mafia i think mafia has too much KP

odd-night poisoner + a day vig that can instantly shoot the revealed IC

just feels a bit too much. but i dunno, it is a 24 player game. hmmm

nah nvm, take that back. i can see epi being mafia

Epi probably isn't mafia tbh tbh.

I want to know why he is still alive after 3 nights when he has shown he can vig people, he might have a second shot and they havent killed him yet. He's 'confirmed town' from mafia pov, killing a vig and a confirmed town is a win. I dont know maybe its just tinfoil

It took them three Nights to get a known civilian into the ground. Maybe that has something to do with it.

I shall return later. I have dinner guests I'm preparing for this evening.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:47 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:46 pm if epi is mafia i think mafia has too much KP

odd-night poisoner + a day vig that can instantly shoot the revealed IC

just feels a bit too much. but i dunno, it is a 24 player game. hmmm

nah nvm, take that back. i can see epi being mafia

Could be a conditional kill, so not totally powerful, but only if it meets conditions. May not be a soup kill, but Epi could be around to identify specific role claims

Could be. May be.

Ain't.

I'm not mafia.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:22 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:15 pm I don't think Epi would have taken the Axe vig threat seriously given who Axe is. If he's scum he probably just wanted to blast a townie then claim dayvig and skate by. The alternative is that he quietly shoots Mac with no accountability, which is what I would have done.

Too much WIFOM. It’s not clearing by any means for someone like Epi, because he thrives on wine

Then man up big boy and lynch me.

I'm tired of people not being willing of putting their money where their mouth is.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:36 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:35 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:34 pm Hmm. Interesting thought process.

Is it more likely to come from town Epi or scum Epi.

If I'm mafia, you wouldn't be here.

You would have held your shot and blasted Mac silently as mafia?

Mac was before Axe.

I would have killed Mac before Axe threatened me, yes.

Back in 45.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:34 pm Hmm. Interesting thought process.

Is it more likely to come from town Epi or scum Epi.

If I'm mafia, you wouldn't be here.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:28 pm Alright, I'm eager to see it.

Um. Click the spoiler thingy.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:05 pm @Epignosis Could you walk me through your thought process when it came to shooting Axe?

Sure.

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:34 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:22 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:20 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:19 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:13 pm I guess I'm just frustrated. But I'm not going to argue with a BS claim.

I still want Syn out as they were 100% saved.

RIP Rondo. You'll die after I flip as I townfirm you.

how do you townfirm rondo?

Because I'm a cool cop man, but I understand not being believed in this claim.

iight bet, could u claim your n1 target too? since as u know roles dont flip. and u copped rondo n2 town i presume. why not syn?

Syn N1 failed.

I would think that a claim plus me flipping green would warrant.

Rondo N2 showed him as a non threat.

OKAY. BEFORE I START CALLING LIAR LIAR CAUGHT RED HANDED LIKE LAST TIME. i need to re-evaluate and think of possibilities.

Have fun.

I'm off to bed. Let's do Master Radishes, shall we?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:25 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:24 am Why is the Center for Disease Control here?

Bo's homesite. MR, falcon, 112 are from there.

They read each other well. Therefore I want their opinions.

I know CDC is a homesite. I'm not dumb (most of the time).

What does it stand for?

Also, Syn should have died Day 1 and didn't. I'm hearing Bo has zero posts.

If true, I'll be willing to vote there.

Radishes is still my top suspect.

Why is the Center for Disease Control here?

Bo is Syn? Okay.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:20 am Actually, riddle me this.

Why the hell are y'all ignoring my pleas to yeet Bo?

What secret sauce do they share with you?

Didn't even know Bo was a thing.

Why should Bo be a thing?

I'm married to killing Radishes.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:17 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:13 am The other thing is that everyone has very complex, intricate abilities. Nobody has an ability that's just "you do this. The end."

Even simple roles like Urist's doctor role are carried out in weird ways like blocking the killer instead of healing the target. (Important for tracks, watches, BGs, lots of stuff.) My IC role has an additional component to it as well.

I dunno. Lots of stuff doesn't add up about this cop claim.

For clarity's sake, that was a joke. I'm just a doctor, no bells or whistles.

Ok. Interesting.

I retract that point then.

(Also don't make jokes about stuff when we're trying to hash out mech.)

Actually, please do.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:13 am The other thing is that everyone has very complex, intricate abilities. Nobody has an ability that's just "you do this. The end."

Even simple roles like Urist's doctor role are carried out in weird ways like blocking the killer instead of healing the target. (Important for tracks, watches, BGs, lots of stuff.) My IC role has an additional component to it as well.

I dunno. Lots of stuff doesn't add up about this cop claim.

For clarity's sake, that was a joke. I'm just a doctor, no bells or whistles.

I got it homey. I laughed.

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:40 pm I have a crazy role, it fits really well into this madness game. Basically if the person i target is targeted by a killing action, i block the person who targeted my target, but i only block the killing part of their action

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:15 pm I'm just gonna claim because i stopped giving a fuck a long time ago. I'm a straightup doctor and I protected ted n1 and scotty n2. If someone else could have prevented the kill they should claim now bc they are probably the reason.

All right, I find this funny.

Urist can be lying here, but I still think it's funny.

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:07 am cultural . Whjat is a treestump?

A stupid name for an interesting role.