The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:09 pm I had no misgivings about either of your integrity at any point, of course. And I hope it's not in poor taste to say that integrity was just proven beyond a doubt.

I'm not a cheater and I would not resort to this sort of tactic, but I did want to watch TV with Eloh tonight, and in the back of my mind, I thought, "What if I were to ask her to watch TV if she switches her vote off of me?"

I don't play that way, but I do think that way.

Instead, I worked on some guitar pieces for a bit since work was quiet. I later went downstairs rambling about the usual shit (keys, chord changes, left-handed cramping, whatever).

Eloh tells me now that she thought that was me trying to distract her from mafia and thus suspected me all the more for it.

O. Fucking Henry couldn't write this shit if he tried.

JJJ, bring that sexy, bruised ass of yours in here and put me out of my misery.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:35 pm I know you meant to mention Sprit as farted Day 1. I said it seems like that was done in passing so you could say that very thing at end game as you just did. And you were smart to throw it in with another name (SVS).

but then you go and say things like...if you vote me you wont win and I hate last man standing so I wouldnt vote a partner like that.

But you had no choice but to vote him or tie it up.

I had no choice but to vote him or tie it up?

If I'm sprityo's partner in that scenario I stay out. I don't need to vote for him. I stay out and gun for Scotty or S~V~S the next Day.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:34 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:28 pm Look, I hate last man standing roles.

Least favorite.

By killing my only partner Day 1, that's what I've turned myself into.

Last man standing.

Fuck that. Especially with my schedule.

I have no doubt that you would rather have had sprityo live, and that's why you didn't vote until it looked like it was about to become inevitable.

I don't do that either. It's silly.

Good win LC. You need to go into politics. You can take the biggest heap of horse shit and make it look like mashed potatoes and gravy from heaven. I don't know how you do it.

Mmm... might have to put mashed potatoes and gravy from heaven on the list for next week...

Look, I hate last man standing roles.

Least favorite.

By killing my only partner Day 1, that's what I've turned myself into.

Last man standing.

Fuck that. Especially with my schedule.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:09 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:58 pm Another question for LC:

Why have you withheld your theory about me throwing sprityo under the bus, waiting to see when I should "OH DAMN BETTER JUMP ON" until endgame?

I'm almost sure we've been talking about this for a while event when falcon was still alive. And I mentioned the way you threw sprits name out there and said you wouldn't sniff in his or SVS direction, something like that. Also, I talked about you bringing up the sleeping votes.

I have a question for you. If LC is bad, why would he kill falcon over me?

I think you misunderstood me. I wouldn't sniff in their directions means that I suspected them (of farting). I was anti-sprityo from the beginning.

If I catch mafia Day 1, the most logical (+EV) course of action is to believe I am a civilian, as I have thrown teammates under the bus maybe 4-5 times in 13+ years of playing mafia.

I don't know why LC would kill falcon. No offense to falcon, but I think that's the worst option to kill. He said he could go any which way (and absent is one of those).

My final argument is to remind you that I am the one who posted about and interacted with sprityo the most. I did the legwork. LC did nothing but cast a vote. I don't treat my teammates like that, especially if I only have one, and especially not if it's Day 1 and I have to spend the rest of the game alone carrying it myself.

Not my style. Not fun. A headache. That's LC territory.

Another question for LC:

Why have you withheld your theory about me throwing sprityo under the bus, waiting to see when I should "OH DAMN BETTER JUMP ON" until endgame?

OR Epi caught mafia Day 1.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:06 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:58 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:45 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:29 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:28 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:23 pm My vote for sprityo on Day 1 put him in contention and started the train that got him yeeted. I not only made that vote, I also engaged Mac about sprityo being bad.

Epignosis said sprityo is bad because he defended Scotty and so Scotty's bad and sprityo and Scotty are bad together. Then he waited until votes started accumulating and rushed in to join the train.

I know all of this and it is my primary reason for thinking Epi could be the last mafia.

What's your primary reason for thinking I am the last mafia?

For you it's smaller things throughout the past couple days when I've had to look at everyone with a microscope - comments here and there over the past couple days that give you an overall scummy vibe.There was that one long defense post you made against Epi coming at you which was amazing. It was full of facts and sounded very genuine. But you other defenses haven't sounded so convincing. The kills, for instance, is a big one.

But, I'm glad you asked me this. Because if I go off of straight facts, I should vote Epi. My ideas that you could be the last mafia are all about "that sounded scummy" or "I think he is lying there" or "that's not a good enough defense". It's all about my opinion of how you are seeming as a player. Epi has actionable offenses.

vote Epi.

I am surprised to hear that I made posts you thought sounded scummy, or were lies. You didn't bring that up during the game, really, did you? I don't even know which posts you mean, but I have not been posting lies.

Like I said, it's just been the past few days when I've have to examine everyone's words so closely (including you two and falcon), so not all game. And when you asked me my primary reasons for thinking you could be the last mafia, it hit me...if I stop worrying about the things Epi and LC have said that sound this way or that and I just focus on the actions, the facts, then I have to choose Epi.

Do I get to know what these actions and facts are?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:10 pm Epi, you haven't even tried to analyze Eloh at all today. You have an agenda, not a desire for truth.

I did that last phase. I changed my mind about her and changed my mind about you.

@Elohcin ^

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:55 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:46 pm

Spoiler: show

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:40 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:36 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm The sleep thing is a standard tactic in that situation. Someone would have brought it up if he didn't.

So why didn't you?

Because you made sure you were first by bringing it up like half a week early.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm Epi stopped voting Eloh because no one else believed she was bad.

How is this remotely true?

She got tied. Twice in the last two relevant Days.

Day 2:

Dragon D. Luffy
3
25%
Voters: Elohcin, Epignosis, MacDougall

Elohcin
3
25%
Voters: Dragon D. Luffy, Scotty, Long Con

Day 3:

Elohcin
2
22%
Voters: Scotty, Epignosis

MacDougall
2
22%
Voters: Elohcin, Long Con

Day 4:

Sleep.

You are just making shit up.

Yes, and in that time after Day 3, suspicion of Eloh generally waned. Like I said.

Tied up Day 2. Tied up Day 3. Day 4 Sleep (nobody received any votes). We are now in Day 5.

At what point in that chronology did this happen, and how did that result in me changing my initial belief that Eloh was bad to YOU being bad?

Demonstrate this with actual posts, please.

I wasn't going of specific posts, I was going off memory. At the start of Day 4, there was falcon, me, you, Eloh. I remember the three of us talking back and forth, and from what I recall, falcon did not suspect Eloh. I did not suspect Eloh. Eloh did not suspect Eloh.

You could not come in with a slam dunk on Eloh in that environment, so you pivoted to aim for THIS Final 3, for obvious reasons.

So let me get this straight.

Your accusation against me is that I stopped suspecting Eloh because nobody else was following along...

...but the reason nobody else was following along was because they are dead...

...because I killed them.

And THEN I started suspecting you in an environment in which...

...nobody was suspecting you.

How does this shit even make any sense?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:50 pm LC has made up at least two things that are demonstrably false:

1. That was sitting here at my computer observing, waiting for the right moment to jump on sprityo. I was cooking and working. I demonstrated this.
2. That I gave up my suspicion of you because other people stopped suspecting you. Didn't happen. I demonstrated this.

*That I was sitting

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:49 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:37 pm Of all the points I have tried to scrape together to prove my Towniness, I think that this one is the most pertinent and relevant:

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:26 pmIf I were bad, I'd just kill Eloh and buddy up to falcon and take you down. Eloh is the most undecided between the two of them, and she'd be GUARANTEED to enter F3 with as fair a mind toward her husband as possible, for obvious reasons. I don't see how or why I would make that kill last night, it just would make the least sense of all.

This makes sense. And as Judge Judy says...if it makes sense, it must be true. (Actually, she says if it doesn't make sens it isn't true, but whatever)

LC has made up at least two things that are demonstrably false:

1. That was sitting here at my computer observing, waiting for the right moment to jump on sprityo. I was cooking and working. I demonstrated this.
2. That I gave up my suspicion of you because other people stopped suspecting you. Didn't happen. I demonstrated this.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:45 pm Epi has actionable offenses.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:40 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:36 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm The sleep thing is a standard tactic in that situation. Someone would have brought it up if he didn't.

So why didn't you?

Because you made sure you were first by bringing it up like half a week early.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm Epi stopped voting Eloh because no one else believed she was bad.

How is this remotely true?

She got tied. Twice in the last two relevant Days.

Day 2:

Dragon D. Luffy
3
25%
Voters: Elohcin, Epignosis, MacDougall

Elohcin
3
25%
Voters: Dragon D. Luffy, Scotty, Long Con

Day 3:

Elohcin
2
22%
Voters: Scotty, Epignosis

MacDougall
2
22%
Voters: Elohcin, Long Con

Day 4:

Sleep.

You are just making shit up.

Yes, and in that time after Day 3, suspicion of Eloh generally waned. Like I said.

Tied up Day 2. Tied up Day 3. Day 4 Sleep (nobody received any votes). We are now in Day 5.

At what point in that chronology did this happen, and how did that result in me changing my initial belief that Eloh was bad to YOU being bad?

Demonstrate this with actual posts, please.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm The sleep thing is a standard tactic in that situation. Someone would have brought it up if he didn't.

So why didn't you?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm Epi stopped voting Eloh because no one else believed she was bad.

How is this remotely true?

She got tied. Twice in the last two relevant Days.

Day 2:

Dragon D. Luffy
3
25%
Voters: Elohcin, Epignosis, MacDougall

Elohcin
3
25%
Voters: Dragon D. Luffy, Scotty, Long Con

Day 3:

Elohcin
2
22%
Voters: Scotty, Epignosis

MacDougall
2
22%
Voters: Elohcin, Long Con

Day 4:

Sleep.

You are just making shit up.

It's 2025 and people still think I throw my teammates under the bus.

Fascinating.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:14 pm I'm going to pull the trigger and just go with my gut. If I'm wrong. I'm sorry. But I sure hope I'm right.

Voting Epi.

If you do get a chance, please refer to this and ask yourself if you believe that all of these things are true:
If you're mafia, you can skip this step. Totally cool.

If you're a civilian and don't change your vote, you just lost.

29-Apr Chicken Noodle Soup Garden Salad with Grilled Chicken

That was lunch.

How long Eloh would you say it took those chicken breasts to cook?

Was I on my phone at any point cooking that you observed?

(No, because I had a drink in my hand, not a cell phone, like always)

It totally takes an hour to properly grill chicken breasts, and I don't use my phone to play mafia.

I can even tell you that Eloh was cooking the bacon and fries indoors that day.

Bye LC.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I fart so much.

1-Jan Mustard Potato Salad Cheeseburgers & Potato Chips
2-Jan Stewart's Tavern Pork & Coleslaw Sandwich with Potato Chips
3-Jan Creamy Shells & Beef Shrimp Scampi
4-Jan Scambled Eggs, Bacon, & Home Fries Potato Chips & Mustard Potato Salad
5-Jan Ramen with Egg & Green Onion Grilled Cheese & Tomato Soup
6-Jan California Rolls Chicken Nuggets & French Fries
7-Jan Korma Chicken Thighs with Bastmati & Naan California Rolls
8-Jan Lumaconi Stuffed with Slow Cooked Pork Rib Ragu Grilled Chicken Thighs, Mashed Potatoes, & Green Beans
9-Jan Pork Egg Rolls Chicken Fajitas
10-Jan Pork Chops with Blueberry Compote & Mashed Sweet Potatoes Mediterranean Salmon with Steamed Broccoli
11-Jan Supreme Pizza Ham & Swiss Sandwiches
12-Jan Smothered Sirloin Steak & Very Early Peas with Homemade Bread Shrimp Spring Rolls & Sushi Rice
13-Jan Caribbean Chicken, White Rice, Black Beans & Curry Mustard Sauce Fried Egg & Cheese Sandwiches
14-Jan Lemon & Garlic Pork Loin with Mashed Potatoes & Corn Tacos
15-Jan Spaghetti & Meat Sauce Chicken Quesadillas
16-Jan Butter Chicken Thighs with White Rice Cacio e Pepe
17-Jan Bean & Cheese Burritos Popcorn
18-Jan Cheesy Ground Beef over White Rice Toast & Butter
19-Jan Pepperoni, Ham, & Sharp Cheddar Melt Beef & Vegetable Soup
20-Jan Shrimp & Grits Taco Bell
21-Jan Buttery Chophouse Pork Loin, Mashed Potatoes, & Green Beans Coconut Shrimp & White Rice
22-Jan Mushroom Tortellini in Garlic Basil Tomato Sauce Cheesy Ground Beef over Spaghetti
23-Jan Honey BBQ Pork Ribs, Mashed Potatoes, & Corn Cilantro Lime Chicken & Black Bean Nachos
24-Jan Pan-Seared Pork Chops, Mashed Sweet Potato, & Peas Garden Salad with Grilled Chicken & Pumpkin Seeds
25-Jan Spaghetti Carbonara Dry Roasted Peanuts
26-Jan Sweet & Sour Chicken with White Rice & Broccoli Biscuits & Gravy
27-Jan Bay Scallops & Spaghetti in a White Wine Butter Sauce Chicken Sandwiches & Steak Fries
28-Jan Chicken & Waffles Grilled Chuck Eye Steak, Mashed Potatoes, & Corn
29-Jan Hibachi Steak & Vegetables with Sushi Rice Fish & Chips
30-Jan Pancakes & Scrambled Eggs Grilled Chicken Thighs with Spaghetti & White Wine Garlic Butter Sauce
31-Jan Chicken Alfredo Grilled Pork Chops, Mashed Potatoes, & Italian Bread
1-Feb Supreme Pizza Mandu Chicken Dumplings, White Rice, & Cabbage
2-Feb Seafoord Pasta Ham & Cheese Sandwiches
3-Feb Chicken Quesadillas Grilled Chicken Sandwiches & Tater Tots
4-Feb Burritos Texanos Sirloin Steak, Mashed Potatoes, Corn, & Italian Bread
5-Feb Spaghetti & Meat Sauce Tacos
6-Feb Roasted Chicken Thighs & Steamed Asparagus Hot Dogs & Potato Chips
7-Feb Beef & Black Bean Nachos Marinated Chicken Tenderloins, White Rice, & Breaded Okra
8-Feb Chicken Veloute with Sauteed Baby Bella Mushrooms & White Rice -
9-Feb Honey BBQ Chicken Wings & Potato Chips Patty Melts & French Fries
10-Feb Sirloin & Mushroom Veloute over Cheese Ravioli B&B Lanes
11-Feb Cilantro Lime Chicken Fajitas Pho with Steak, Mushrooms, & California Blend Vegetable Medley
12-Feb Pierogis with Creamy Ground Beef & Green Beans Cilantro Lime Chicken Fajitas
13-Feb Beef Quesadillas Chicken & Black Bean Nachos
14-Feb Beef Bourguignon Caribbean Chicken, White Rice, Black Beans & Curry Mustard Sauce
15-Feb Miso Soup & Sushi Rice Cottage Cheese & Saltines
16-Feb Lima Beans & Ham -
17-Feb Chicken & Black Bean Nachos Grilled Chicken & Green Beans
18-Feb Chicken Pot Pie Honey BBQ Pork Chops & French Fries
19-Feb Chicken Alfredo Lima Beans & Ham
20-Feb Quesabirria Chicken Pot Pie
21-Feb Sweet & Sour Shrimp with White Rice & California Medley Gryos & French Fries
22-Feb Grilled Ham & Cheese Sandwiches with Tomato Soup -
23-Feb New England Clam Chowder -
24-Feb Shrimp Scampi Chicken Soft Tacos
25-Feb Tamale Pie Roast Beef & Swiss Sandwiches with Cream of Mushroom Soup
26-Feb Spaghetti Carbonara Roast Beef & Swiss Platter
27-Feb Bean & Cheese Burritos Cincinnati Chili
28-Feb Kung Pao Chicken Grilled Pork Chops, Pinto Beans, & White Rice
1-Mar Tostadas Chips & Salsa
2-Mar Shrimp Ravioli Ham & Swiss Sandwiches with French Fries
3-Mar Grilled Pork Chops, Mediterranean Couscous, & French Green Beans Corn Dogs
4-Mar Popcorn Mi Castia
5-Mar Smothered Sirloin Steak, Corn on the Cob, & Italian Bread Parmesan Chicken Tenders
6-Mar Baked Chicken, Stuffing, & Peas Beef Quesadillas
7-Mar Ramen with Egg, Mushrooms, Cabbage, & Green Onion Cheeseburgers & Fries
8-Mar Shrimp Scampi Egg Salad Sandwiches
9-Mar Sweet & Sour Chicken with White Rice & Broccoli Pancackes & Bacon
10-Mar Quesabirria Cacio e Pepe
11-Mar Applewood Bacon Pork Tenderloin, Mashed Potatoes, & Corn Gomitomi with Ham & Cheddar
12-Mar Spaghetti & Meat Sauce Beef & Black Bean Nachos
13-Mar Beef Fajitas Caribbean Chicken, White Rice, Black Beans & Curry Mustard Sauce
14-Mar Honey BBQ Baby Back Ribs with Redskin Mashed Potatoes & Corn Beef Quesadillas
15-Mar Pizza Alfredo with Grilled Chicken Toasted Ravioli
16-Mar Garlic & Herb Pork Tenderloin, Roasted Redskin Potatoes, & Peas Smothered Hamburger Steaks & Tater Tots
17-Mar Spaghetti Carbonara Salt & Lime
18-Mar Chicken Parmesan Pork Potstickers & Cabbage
19-Mar T-Bone Steak, Asparagus, & Freshly Baked Bread with Honey Butter Tacos
20-Mar - County Seat Grille
21-Mar Paccheri Rigata with Meat Sauce and Mozzarella Garden Salad with Grilled Chicken
22-Mar Pepperoni Pizza Grilled Chicken Tenderloins, Spanish Yellow Rice, & Black Beans
23-Mar Bacon Chicken Sandwiches & French Fries Chicken Fajitas
24-Mar Sweet & Sour Shrimp with Basmati Rice & Peppers Baked Cod & Asparagus
25-Mar Kielbasa & Radiatori in a Garlic Butter Sauce Pepper Jack French Onion Burgers & Fries
26-Mar Beef Roast with Vegetables Fish Tacos with Mango Salsa
27-Mar Philly Cheesesteaks & Fries Kung Pao Chicken & Broccoli with White Rice
28-Mar Korma Chicken over Basmati -
29-Mar Eggplant Parmesan Quiche Lorraine
30-Mar Meatloaf, Redskined Mashed Potatoes, & Green Beans Eggplant Parmesan
31-Mar Bacon-Wrapped Chicken Tenderloins & Israeli Couscous Grilled Chicken Sandwiches
1-Apr Tamale Pie Pork Egg Rolls
2-Apr Ravioli with Mushroom Alfredo Jalapeno Bacon Cheeseburgers & Fries
3-Apr Chicken Shish Kebabs & Spanish Yellow Rice Cod Sandwiches
4-Apr Caribbean Chicken, White Rice, Black Beans & Curry Mustard Sauce Tacos
5-Apr Hot Honey Grilled Chicken Sandwich & Fries Chicken Quesadillas
6-Apr Mediterranean Salmon & Fries Spaghetti & Meat Sauce
7-Apr Minestrone Chuck Eye Steak, Mashed Potatoes, Corn, & French Bread
8-Apr Minestrone Apple Walnut Salad with Grilled Pork Chops
9-Apr Bourbon & Brown Sugar Roast with Vegetables Marinated Chicken Tenderloins, White Rice, & Breaded Okra
10-Apr Shrimp & Grits Hot Dogs & Chips
11-Apr Bean & Cheese Burritos Popcorn
12-Apr Philly Cheesesteak Pizza Roast Beef Sandwiches
13-Apr Fried Pork Chops over Spaghetti with Spinach & Tomatoes Scambled Eggs & Sausage Links
14-Apr Quesabirria Grilled Pork Chops, White Rice, & Green Beans
15-Apr Shrimp Scampi Pepper Jack French Onion Burgers & Fries
16-Apr Hibachi Steak & Vegetables with Sushi Rice Taco Salads
17-Apr Chicken Club Sandwiches & Fries Cacio e Pepe
18-Apr Chicken Ramen Honey BBQ Chicken Legs, Boiled Potatoes, & Corn
19-Apr Chicken & Black Bean Burritos Chicken Parmesan Wraps
20-Apr Potato Gnocchi & Tomato Sauce with Mozzarella Chicken Chicken Caprese
21-Apr Fried Shimp Cocktail, White Rice, & Corn Grilled Cheese & Tomato Soup
22-Apr Seafood Pasta in a Lemon Butter Sauce Patty Melts & Fries
23-Apr Enchiladas Rojas Fried Catfish Nuggets
24-Apr Grilled Pork Chops in Mushroom Gravy, Cornbread Stuffing, & Peas Grilled Chicken Legs with Israeli Couscous & Baby Spinach
25-Apr Spaghetti Carbonara Soft Tacos
26-Apr Hamburger Steaks & Fries Cornbread Stuffing
27-Apr Hibachi Shrimp & Vegetables with Sushi Rice Chicken Fries
28-Apr Pepperoni Pizza Pork Burritos
29-Apr Chicken Noodle Soup Garden Salad with Grilled Chicken

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 29, 2025 9:02 pm Epi, you voted immediately after Roxy broke the tie and put sprityo in the lead. Under a minute after this:

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:50 pm Voted Scotty

I'm just going with my own thing on d 1

Was kinda feeling like I should break the tie bc betwixt the 2 I do feel SVS more town.

As I am typing this I changed my mind. If I think SVS is town why wouldn't I try to help her?

revote sprityo

.. and you quickly jump into the thread with no post, just a sudden vote.

You had been absent from the thread for a full hour, starting precisely at the point when I cast my vote for sprityo. You stayed silent, observing, saw Mac call sprityo bad, no vote, maybe it'll be okay... but then Roxy voted and you were out of time and hurried your ass in to try to get into the first class seats on the sprityo train.

If that's not exactly what happened, then the coincidental timing is uncanny. Not to mention that you voted without posting, and only posted again to harass Mac about... voting sprityo!!

Back to looking at when I voted versus what I said about sprityo. Which you keep ignoring.

Where do you get that I was staying silent, observing?

Maybe this isn't quite fair, but on April 17th at that precise time, I was outside grilling chicken. I know this because I write everything I cook down in a spreadsheet. Want to know what I fixed for lunch that same afternoon? Cacio e pepe.

Mafia LC...

Always putting the conclusion first and twisting the thread to fit his narrative.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 29, 2025 8:47 pm My Day 1 was my usual kind of Day 1. I don't really have a "progression" on anyone, but right after I voted for him, I did post this:

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:02 pm I know at least 1 mafia but to make it fun imma need yall to guess it.

Is it sprityo?

... which is while the vote was still tied 2-2, and is a step more anti-sprityo than your "what's your opinion on sprityo" claim to fame.

And this is a powerful post how?

"Is it sprityo?"

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 29, 2025 8:18 pm You were much more focused on getting Scotty yeeted. You asked S~V~S her opinion of sprityo, you asked sprityo his opinion of Scotty.
I would call these extremely generalized questions, not "look how I pushed sprityo's yeet!"

This is the strongest thing you said against sprityo...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:00 pm The mafia is Scotty and sprityo.

... and it's based on sprityo calling you out on your Scotty vote. So you decided they're a pair of Wolves. It doesn't look like anything anyone should have taken seriously, it looks a lot more like poking and jabbing around with little to no meat behind the accusation.

And timing and availability are what they are, the fact is still that you didn't vote sprityo until after he was in the lead. And you were present before I voted sprityo. You COULD have been the second vote on the train, and you CHOSE not to, so this "I'm only on in the evening" excuse kind of falls flat, you know? You were here, but you're trying to convince us that you were too late for the sprityo train??

There's my Day 1 progression on sprityo directly:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:25 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:15 pm My top suspect at this moment is:

Spoiler: show

I cannot imagine that shitvillian Scotty is content with the level of activity here thus far. Scotty has 8 posts, only half of which are on topic really.

In the Game of Champions, Scotty had 300+ posts in a game that lasted a mere 5 Days. That's 60+ posts per phase. I think Scotty is happy with the activity level here, and as such, I am happy with flushing Scott.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

You’re so right, we should vote Scotty out Day 1 two games in a row

Who is "we?"

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:31 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:15 pm My top suspect at this moment is:

Spoiler: show

I cannot imagine that shitvillian Scotty is content with the level of activity here thus far. Scotty has 8 posts, only half of which are on topic really.

In the Game of Champions, Scotty had 300+ posts in a game that lasted a mere 5 Days. That's 60+ posts per phase. I think Scotty is happy with the activity level here, and as such, I am happy with flushing Scott.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

You’re so right, we should vote Scotty out Day 1 two games in a row

I'll be plain.

1) I didn't vote out Scotty Day 1 last time, so this has nothing to do with me.

2) How is that relevant to this game? Is Scotty's alignment last game something to care about in this one?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:50 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

What's yours?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:18 pm Early distancing, as you're describing Epi doing, is a smart thing for a Wolf to do. I once got caught because I never once mentioned my partner, and after they were caught, I was called out and had no excuse for it.

These are your mentions of sprityo Day 1. There's no additional context required; I'm merely quoting your own posts in order:

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:25 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:07 pm I followed them around with a lit match and noted when the flame grew. Open and shut case.

Damn, case closed. [VOTE: S~V~S and sprityo] aubergine All right, talk to you guys in the post-game!

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:54 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:49 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:25 pm Sprityo being prehemptively mad about being suspected earlier makes sense because Sprityo is like the most mischopped person in the history of the internet, not just of the syndicate. Like we could probably use him as a tourist attraction to get people from other sites to join or something.

sig would like a word.

Yeah, sig is the President of Day 1 Yeets in my books. Always and forever.

Sprityo could always use one more. [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine to tie it up.

That's it.

You name dropped sprityo twice without interacting with him, asking questions, or inquiring what other people thought about him.

Yet I'm the one who threw him under the bus because I voted him during the time slot that I actually, you know... play?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:25 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:44 pm Well, I was the second voter for sprityo, which put him up to two votes and tied for the lead. Your vote was fourth, and attached itself to a train that was already going.

One minor note is that I don't think it's fair to make vote order king.

I'm the one who called out sprityo early on. I made arguments against him and got people voting for him.

Is the underlined true or false?

Looking back at the tags, Mac was the last to vote sprityo.

6:50pm ET

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:50 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

9:08pm ET

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 9:08 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

Why is so much weight put on vote order?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:07 pm 2.) Votes in the poll are official, and I will only consider the poll votes when I resolve a day phase. It is still obligatory to call votes in the game thread, as the poll does not track voting order. Call your votes to make it possible to discern timing and order. This is not optional. Please call votes with the [ vote ][ /vote ] tags (no spaces).

Our system does not track vote order. That is why JJJ requires vote tags.

But why is this relevant?

Look at the bulk of my posts. They are in the evening. The poll each Day phase closes at 9:30pm ET.

Of course my vote on sprityo is going to be one of the later ones unless I pinned one on him the evening before and never moved it.

This "evidence" that I bussed sprityo is worse than a wet fart on a school bus.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 29, 2025 9:38 am Epi kills falcon so he can keep his wife in the game. Or, LC kills falcon so that it looks like Epi killed falcon to keep his wife in the game.

My darling bride, mother of my children, maker of the most delightful desserts, the most radiant element of my existence:

I do not give a fuck about keeping you in the game.

If murdering you advanced my position, I would have already found the perfect body bag for your precious corpse and chucked you down a picturesque but very remote embankment.

I would be in TJ before anyone noticed you were missing.

No.

Were I mafia, it would 100% be Long Con visiting our freshwater aquatic wildlife friends, and for two distinct reasons.

First, there is no guarantee falcon votes. Carrying a somewhat inactive civilian into endgame improves my chances.

Second, having just made a case on Long Con (however ridiculous he regards it), destroying my biggest "suspect" renders me looking foolish and without a plan, such that I must now "go back to the drawing board" as it were with someone I have suspected almost the entire time and someone else who has barely been around.

In all of this, beloved, you would be an afterthought and a non-factor- a stunningly majestic afterthought and non-factor.

Glad you're okay, JJJ. For real.

Assfixiation

Well, guess it's nappy nap time.

My vote Day 5 could go to anyone.

But not Jesus. He'd come back in three days and bitch slap my ass.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:44 pm Well, I was the second voter for sprityo, which put him up to two votes and tied for the lead. Your vote was fourth, and attached itself to a train that was already going.

One minor note is that I don't think it's fair to make vote order king.

I'm the one who called out sprityo early on. I made arguments against him and got people voting for him.

The good news for me is that if I'm still alive Day 5, it will no longer be the weekend, which means I'll be able to scrutinize the other two people to my heart's contentment.

Also, please kill me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:13 pm Yeah, you gave that same perspective about the killing of Roxy. That she was participating less and that mafia would keep that kind of player around intentionally. That's not really how I think when I'm mafia. I prefer to try to do kills that will point to someone else.

Got you. Yeah, that's fair.

What I'm gathering so far is that Eloh suspects me, doesn't suspect LC.

LC doesn't suspect falcon.

falcon would vote out Jesus if he was here.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:44 pm Well, I was the second voter for sprityo, which put him up to two votes and tied for the lead. Your vote was fourth, and attached itself to a train that was already going.

I would never have killed any of those nightkills. I would have taken out Epignosis first, probably Mac next, and maybe hit S~V~S on Day 3 depending.

When Scotty and Mac had their votes stagnating on absent falcon, I noted that he hadn't been in the thread for days, and that he would have had to send in nightkills and intentionally avoided the thread entirely. They both switched soon after, so I guess they thought it was a good point. If I'm bad then I let falcon die every time. I could have hopped on that wagon as the third vote and probably sealed the deal right there if I were a Wolf.

Only problem with the underlined is that if you are mafia, it is a civilian getting killed anyway (and I would argue that a participating civilian is better dead to mafia than a non-participating civilian).

In any event, am I correct in gleaning from this that your current position is that falcon is civilian?

Come on gang. Less than an hour to go.

What horse shit do I have to believe all at once to believe you are mafia?

I encourage everyone else to play the game. It's more fun that way!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:19 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:26 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 1:48 am

I do feel the solve is in Epi/LC tho

I'm inclined to agree. Yesterday, after pretty much clearing you I thought...."gosh...It's got to be LC!" But this was not because of anything he did/said, but becasue I have just had Epi pinned as civ all game. And I asked Epi who he thought was the last mafia. It took him a long while to get back to me, but I know he was working so it didn't bother me. And he came in with all these amazing points for LC being mafia. I was like, heck yeah...my POE has to be right! THEN, I read LC's response to Epi and he blows every single point UP! Now I'm thinking...."gosh...it's got to be Epi!" And this whole time I had him as civ in my head.

@Long Con You defended yourself well and I believe you. I think Epi is our last mafia.

Every once in a while I get to play a certain game. It's been a minute since I've had to, so I guess I'm due.

I'll play it a little later on this evening.

Time for another round of "Here is All the Shit you HAVE TO BELIEVE if you Believe Epignosis is Mafia"

You have to simultaneously believe all of these things:

1. I threw sprityo under the bus (and farted in his face) Day 1.

I have always held that bussing is a counterproductive tactic. While it occasionally works, and while I have dipped my toe into those waters from time to time, it's very unwise if you've only got one partner. I do not believe I have ever had the pleasure of being mafia with sprityo, and my Day 1 would not look the same if we were partners. Anyone who has been mafia with me knows I like to keep us all alive as long as possible when feasible. I particularly preach "Survive Day 1."

2. I killed S~V~S Night 1.

Not my thing. I will murder S~V~S, but I get more satisfaction out of fooling her. Night 1 kill? Nah.

3. I killed Roxy Night 2.

I would murder her in a vacuum, but Roxy missed the Day 2 vote. If I'm mafia, I want to keep distracted persons around, especially if I'm by myself.

4. I killed Scotty Night 3.

I would totally murder Scotty Night 3. You get this one for free.

5. Eloh survived back-to-back ties led by me, and I abandoned that to poke Long Con with a fart-smelling stick.

One lynch would seal it for me. Instead of sticking with my pet suspect, I pivot to the person with the second most posts?

No.

More than that, I wanted to use this free Day phase to visit other avenues. I basically got a massive, classic NO U out of LC. I found it ironic that he called me desperate. The good news is that I don't have to process this today. I could be dead by Day 5. LC could be dead Day 5. That is the beauty of Sleep.

6. I was the first person to get everybody to vote Sleep.

Town points.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 2:45 pm I have a question for LC. If Epi is mafia, why would he be the one to suggest *vote sleep*? I still don't totally understand the vote sleep option, but form what he was saying, it seems like its an in-favor-of-the-civs type of thing at this point. And everyone did it...so I did too.

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 3#p1131753

I attempted to explain this earlier, but I'll give it another shot.

Suppose you are a civilian.

Epignosis
falcon45ca
Long Con

You have to vote out which one of these handsome devils has been leaving skid marks on your bed sheets (fucking better not be facon45ca or Long Con).

If you're wrong, you lose. That's because 3v1 becomes 2v1. Then a Night kill makes it 1v1. That's parity. Mafia wins.

But God gave us Sleep!

No lynch. 3v1 stays 3v1. Then a Night kill makes it 2v1. Civilians are still in it, baby.

Epi got capped.

Now you have to pick from these:

falcon45ca
Long Con

Sleep in this very specific and rare scenario reduces the civilian chances of catching an early L. It isn't a "strategy;" it's optimal play in a vanilla game with a 3v1 situation.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 2:43 pm I can believe that the kills were probably not randomized (however Epi is my lead suspect atm and he is the one that convinced me of this point).

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:26 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 1:48 am

I do feel the solve is in Epi/LC tho

I'm inclined to agree. Yesterday, after pretty much clearing you I thought...."gosh...It's got to be LC!" But this was not because of anything he did/said, but becasue I have just had Epi pinned as civ all game. And I asked Epi who he thought was the last mafia. It took him a long while to get back to me, but I know he was working so it didn't bother me. And he came in with all these amazing points for LC being mafia. I was like, heck yeah...my POE has to be right! THEN, I read LC's response to Epi and he blows every single point UP! Now I'm thinking...."gosh...it's got to be Epi!" And this whole time I had him as civ in my head.

@Long Con You defended yourself well and I believe you. I think Epi is our last mafia.

Every once in a while I get to play a certain game. It's been a minute since I've had to, so I guess I'm due.

I'll play it a little later on this evening.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:07 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:04 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:03 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 3:44 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:12 am There's not a single honest accusation in your entire post, and I know for a fact that you know better than to make these fundamentally weak accusations.

I see.

I'm either dishonest or your knowledge of me is deficient.

I find it quite telling that those are the two possibilities you bring up.

I brought up?

Blue is dishonest. Red is you don't know me. Don't see a third.

Well, I would have thought that a third perspective you might conjure up is that *I* am being dishonest.

Like I said, the fact that this perspective isn't on your mind is extremely telling.

I'm rephrasing what you said from the perspective that you are a civilian: If you are a civilian (as I am), am I being dishonest or is your knowledge of me deficient?

My accusation of you itself implies that you could be being dishonest.

Didn't think I needed to spell this out.

Oh, sorry- I didn't read far enough to see this was a two part deal.
Answer is the same. Using the free Day phase to consider every angle.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:03 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 3:44 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:12 am There's not a single honest accusation in your entire post, and I know for a fact that you know better than to make these fundamentally weak accusations.

I see.

I'm either dishonest or your knowledge of me is deficient.

I find it quite telling that those are the two possibilities you bring up.

I brought up?

Blue is dishonest. Red is you don't know me. Don't see a third.