The Syndicate

thellama73 wrote:The civvies won Clue. Just sayin'.

I'm so taking credit for that one, too.

S~V~S wrote:It could also be civvies that play their roles as individuals rather than as members of a team; everyone wants to be a chief, no one wants to be an Indian. And civvies need Indians more than chiefs; too many chiefs, and the Indians lose interest. A trend I have noticed here is the civvies waste too much time suspecting each other becasue they are not even trying to play together or as a group.

I could be wrong, but IMO the games here are not any more out of, or in, balance than they are, or were, anywhere else

Are you implying that all Native Americans are followers?



Seriously, I think the issue is more that, in a full game, there's 48 hours to talk, but many people (mostly civilians) will wait until the last few hours to "catch up" and vote. These people have not allowed themselves the luxury of processing and digesting the information. Then what ends up happening is that they vote between the two (or three) people who have the most votes (or self vote- even worse) and call it a day. They're okay because it isn't them. If I have one skill as a FEB, it's forcing the false dilemma between two civilians. And most of the time it works like a charm.

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Good game guys. Another baddie win, lol.

I can't believe the dismal Civvie track record in the Jobs section of the Hall of Fame. Wow! Do we need more powerful Civvie teams in this meta?

It's an issue I've tried to address here:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ?f=8&t=404

I find two reasons for the rampant string of Mafia victories:

1. Overpowered Mafia with an unbalanced ratio.
2. Apathetic or uninvested civilians.

lol

Long Con wrote:Wow, is everyone immortal in this game?

No.

nijuukyugou wrote:Also, time for more beer. Oh so much more beer.

GOD wrote:What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder & stronger

Viagra's latest campaign to the impotent undead.

LoRab wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I for one am not impressed with God's grammar. Comma splices and missing apostrophes...come on, Lord.

Then again, your given name doesn't even have vowels.

Bet you didn't even make it past first grade.

To be more accurate, God's given name doesn't have consonants. It's all vowels. At least in an ancient Hebrew sort of way. Sorry, couldn't resist comment

Which vowels?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I do not feel bad anymore for my speculation of Epi on Day 1. Goodbye Epi.

Peace out.

Bullzeye wrote:Here is a holy grail for you Mr God sir:



As for a tale, well, by looking on the page this picture comes from I see the holy grail is actually produced by a beer company my granddad used to deliver for up until not too long ago. Apparently it's nothing special but whoever reviewed it clearly disregarded the fact that as I'm within six degrees of separation from this ale named after the holy grail it is in fact awesome by association.

Linki - I have this to say: Hello!

This infuriates me because I purchased this for camping simply because of this theme. We took pictures of it so I could bring it for show and tell. And you've scooped me.

Anyway, from the Gospel according to Busch:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Made wrote:Anyway you cut it, the best person to mute would be Llama.

I'd like a minute for rebuttal.

You can have 6.

Welcome back, no bear meat for dinner?

Nope. I cooked fish over the fire yesterday. And it rained like a beast the first night.

I voted for Juliets.

Made wrote:Anyway you cut it, the best person to mute would be Llama.

I'd like a minute for rebuttal.

First consider:

Like everyone else, the foes in this scenario would not have known that upon their demise at Night, they would be exposed as foes. Some pretense may be thus revealed.

DFaraday wrote:So much to look over. I'm always wary of going after MP so early just because he is often lynched over nothing (although he was justly caught last time). I don't know Enrique or Made at all, so tomorrow I'll go over their stuff and see what jumps out.

A beautiful trifecta. Name three doors. Behind one lies a tiger. Marilyn vos Savant would be proud.

MP was not a teammate. DF doesn't "know Enrique or Made at all" (no mention of Dana even though he's quoting her. No mention of Canucklehead either). That fits the "name two people who are not on your team and one who is" cliche. Then:

Enrique wrote:

DFaraday wrote:So much to look over. I'm always wary of going after MP so early just because he is often lynched over nothing (although he was justly caught last time). I don't know Enrique or Made at all, so tomorrow I'll go over their stuff and see what jumps out.

You.
Fuck.
You've known me for years, asshole

Was DF truly ignorant of who Enrique is?

In the same post, Enrique said this to Made:

Enrique wrote:

Made wrote:I'm starting to come to the realization that responding to all arguements/points that anyone makes towards you is a very easy way to avoid suspision.

Yeah, don't do that, lol. I'm the kind that does this and gets uber defensive. There's definitely better ways to stand your ground. Not sure if anyone here remembers the mega-post I made that one time in Piano? For Recruitment Mafia, I think. I quoted posts from like every single page in the game. People had to spend whole minutes scrolling down to the end. It was half glorious half terrible. I got lynched.

Read that two, three times over and decide for yourself if it means anything.

DFaraday wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

Dana wrote:

Mongoose wrote: linki - Dana - We are an accepting bunch - don't be intimidated

Everyone here has been so nice! It's just intimidating because many people have masters and grad school and PhD super-smarts. It's a bit scary in a game like mafia where a whole lot of it or probably most of it is mind games and thinking things through.

My Master's degree does nothing to help my Mafia game. Also, I don't think I've met you before this, so hi!

So much to look over. I'm always wary of going after MP so early just because he is often lynched over nothing (although he was justly caught last time). I don't know Enrique or Made at all, so tomorrow I'll go over their stuff and see what jumps out.

OMG Where have you been? It's freakin awesome to see you. (I agree; I feel like a dumba$$ most of the time.)

Rey -- Haha, you've got this number!

Mongoose! I was on break; I was helping out with a retreat over the summer, then training for a job. Hopefully I'll be around a bit more now.

And hi Made! It is a pleasure to make your acquaintance!

This exchange smells. Sure, Mongoose is a cheerful sort, but The Hobbit ended less than two months ago. Both of them played. "OMG Where have you been?" when the person you're speaking to only missed one full game and a couple of speed games just doesn't ring true.

And DF is greeting Made.

DFaraday wrote:As someone who also takes awhile to get going in games, I can't be too harsh towards JC. I don't really have strong opinions yet either, and she seems genuine enough to me. I also don't know what to make of the Made/Llama thing, so I'll just...

*vote MR* because why not.

Enrique...sorry! I guess our actual interaction in games has been very limited.

DFaraday wrote:Did you go by a different name, Enrique? I feel bad now.

Also, I forgot to mention above, Hedge is looking pretty shady now.

Why drop JC's name as she's taking votes and vouching for her?

Notice that he mentions Made a third(!) time. This is important because remember he said, "so tomorrow I'll go over their stuff and see what jumps out." He didn't go over anybody's stuff, but he still reminds us that he isn't sure about the "Made/Llama thing." At the time DF voted, Made could have been lynched.

DF votes for MR for no reason and had not mentioned him previously (note that Juliets also voted for MR for what in my opinion was a lame reason- Juliets was my #2 suspect by the end of Day 1).

"Also I forgot to mention above, Hedge is looking pretty shady now." That's random and tacked on as hell.

++++

I encourage people to look at all the names DF dropped, understanding that he most likely would NOT know that, were he killed, his alignment would be revealed.

My vote will go to one of those people.

S~V~S wrote:There are a lot of people here, not sure why they aren't talking

Epi~ you say something CAN be gleaned, but don't say what. Willing to share, or watching & waiting?

Gleaned? Fuck gleaning. The harvest just began.

And formatting takes time, all right?

New page.

S~V~S wrote:OK, this is the totality of Faradays posts. The NP said "baddie" not SK or rogue, so I am going to assume he had teammates. Can ANYTHING be gleaned from this?

Yes.

Mister Rearranger
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DFaraday (14), juliets (22) 7%

Some favorites that come to mind:

Mongoose wrote:I could use more RobComedyHour please

Eloh and I have, sadly, been going through some rough times in our marriage. We spoke to a professional.

This guy kept telling us all about how communication was important and about how we need to know our spouse's likes and dislikes and so on. Guy thought I wasn't paying attention, so he snapped his fingers at me. "Hey! Do you know your wife's favorite flower?"

"King Arthur All Purpose," I says. "Next question."

S~V~S wrote:Also, we all apparently have phones with their minds in the gutter.

That's what happens when you start calling them "smart." They start having minds.

Scary, scary world.

I have a flip phone. That's right. My phone can still sniff its own crotch.

GOD wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I for one am not impressed with God's grammar. Comma splices and missing apostrophes...come on, Lord.

Then again, your given name doesn't even have vowels.

Bet you didn't even make it past first grade.

And God for one is not impressed by your mockery

The sin of PRIDE, as evidenced by arrogance and by being judgmental will not get you into the Kingdom of Heaven, my boy. Just sayin' Nor will it get you the Lords' largesse.

Listen, I'm trying to follow your instructions.

Many people have told me that alcohol was my enemy. According to YOU, I should love my enemy. I'm doing my fucking best, okay?

I for one am not impressed with God's grammar. Comma splices and missing apostrophes...come on, Lord.

Then again, your given name doesn't even have vowels.

Bet you didn't even make it past first grade.

"Orally" was one of the funniest typos I've seen here.

Sorry to take you out Day 1 again, MP, but that role sounds horrific. So not sorry, really.

Made wrote:He is either a very helpful civvie, or maybe an independant role? Regardless, he should be watched. He's playing how i like to, and i find that terrifying.

Good God, you must be as talented as Sylvia Browne!

Made wrote:

Made wrote: 2.As for accountiblity, Nah, bascially what i'm saying is that instead of voting MP like everyone else (I still think you have a stronger arguement against you than he does), if you do eventually die, and flip civvie, I should be scrutinized.

holy fragment, before anyone misinterprets that, Instead of voting MP and having multiple people on my said saying "Well how could we of know" that kinda stuff....I'm going in with less suport. If you do eventually die, and filp civvie, i should be scrutinized.

I think you've had quite enough scrutiny. God.

thellama73 wrote:With a tied vote and plenty more still to come in, it's going to be very interesting to see how this develops. Hopefully we will learn something.

What tie?

Dana wrote:Everyone here has been so nice!

I am Skeletor, and I am not nice!

Long Con wrote:There's a 5-year-old player on this site??

Not anymore.

And just for that, here's John Anderson:



I and I like this too.

Roxy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:"Give Peace a Chance" by Jon Lennon sucks. Thank goodness for "Your Move."

What sadd times we live when kids do not know how to spell John Lennon

You're right. I don't know how to spell "John." It couldn't be that I'm drinking on a weeknight and thinking about Yes, whose lead singer is Jon Anderson, and to whose song I alluded to above.

S~V~S wrote:I don't like Communism all that much anymore, not like i used to, just modified Socialism. I am mellowing in my old age. And thanks, I think...maybe...

I'm not crazy about The Beatles either. I think they were foundational for the great bands after them. Just like how socialists need capitalist principles to carry on about

S~V~S wrote:Linki~ thanks for saying things I like suck

Lots of things you like suck. Like Communism. They don't suck just because you like them though.

"Give Peace a Chance" by Jon Lennon sucks. Thank goodness for "Your Move."

S~V~S wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I'll vote to save llama if any should go that route.

Do you have an opinion on Metalmarsh?

Yes.

I'll vote to save llama if any should go that route.

S~V~S wrote:And Epi, it is what it is. I try not to let non participants ruin my fun

Ah, they never ruin my fun. But they can sure ruin a win.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Oh for the love of....

I'm just now checking back in since about 10:40 last night, and I have 6+ pages to catch up on I see. I'm going to try my best, but if the game continues at this rate, I will be getting replaced pretty quickly. I just don't think I have the time for a game that is this hectic right now, but I will give it an honest effort first.

Do what most people do. Vote near the deadline without having read anything.

MovingPictures07 wrote:but I haven't seen his usual civvie case-building self yet

You didn't learn anything from The Hobbit, did you? Careful what you wish for and all that?

Very well. Here you are:

MovingPictures07 wrote:- I also think Epig suspects me for stupid reasons (because I made a joke post? and I read through the thread and I don't think I saw whether he answered my question about whether he still thinks that's the "most suspicious" post so far, but someone correct me if I'm wrong).

Gladly.

You can claim that your statement was a joke after you were called out on it because you included the magic tongue smiley (also known as "Miley Cyrus"). It was a subtle (not so to me) dump of a gamblers fallacy (which WILL sway people). But it was gauche.

MovingPictures07 wrote: If someone finds my behavior suspicious because of an interpretation of my intentions, so be it (as LoRab would say, eye me all you want),

I do.

MovingPictures07 wrote:but OF COURSE I find Epig's suspicion odd because he said me joking about being bad often and being sick of it is the most suspicious post in the game.

Uh-uh. Pause.

I never said you were joking about anything. Go and see. It's really not at all what I alleged.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't really have an opinion of Epig being bad, but I haven't seen his usual civvie case-building self yet, so I'm curious about what he thinks about other items as well.

Nah.

Long Con wrote:Epig: Not sure how I feel about you being upset about S~V~S coming out with the facts of a situation. Did you want to see Made try, and perhaps fail, to find an example of S~V~S sarcasm?

Yes.

S~V~S wrote:But I knew it wasn't a lie. Why give credence to things we know are false when that can obscure the things that might be true?

Linki I hate you.

You don't know that. Made could have come back to say that he saw you use sarcastic orange in this game. He could have said something else that wasn't true. But now we'll never know.

Enrique wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

S~V~S wrote:This is it, one of my last posts before I was murdered

S~V~S wrote:
OMG, I said something helpful~! I must be bad,

I miss LCs "roll eyes" smiley~ I tried to get it at his website, but the smiley link was broken

OK, gonna stop letting the end of the thread tempt me.

Did you need to speak for Made on the subject? You are suspicious of him, right?

Jeez dude, this is not a witch hunt, we're actually trying to figure out whether he's innocent or not. If there's evidence on either side I'd like to see it posted.

My point was to let Made answer to see if his response jives with reality. Catching him in a(nother) lie is an excellent way to determine if someone is innocent or not. With other people answering for him, that can't happen.

What a pity.

S~V~S wrote:This is it, one of my last posts before I was murdered

S~V~S wrote:
OMG, I said something helpful~! I must be bad,

I miss LCs "roll eyes" smiley~ I tried to get it at his website, but the smiley link was broken

OK, gonna stop letting the end of the thread tempt me.

Did you need to speak for Made on the subject? You are suspicious of him, right?

Made wrote:

Enrique wrote:

Made wrote:insert snarky insult of other's intelligence here

One second... who taught you sarcastic orange???

Saw SVS use it once

bea wrote:His in thread behavior has been odd to say the least and this new thing that I'm currently in linki over (the sarcastic orange) gives me some pause. I saw SVS use it but I don't know what it means even though I used it perfectly is eye raising. If you figured it out re:context - own up to your smart self sir! I know in at least one of MP's posts he made a comment (specificly to epi in regards to epi's suspicion of him that maybe mp's original statement should have been in orange) so yea. There's definitely thread ways you could have put two and two together yet you chose not to use that. TBH - this gives me a ping more than any of the stuff you've said the past eleventy billion pages.

Where did S~V~S use sarcastic orange?

"There's an OMGUS if I ever saw one" is an empty thing to say if "an OMGUS can range anywhere from a retaliatory vote to an inexplicable accusation."