The Syndicate

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:09 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:59 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:56 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:35 pm still no spoons, I'm sheeping wherever Dennis goes atm

Why me? I think I've shown I've got almost no clue what's going on still with all of my 'help what is happening' posts and I very much feel like a game of russian roulette right now.

Which is fake able watch



Help, what's going on? I haven't been in this game till today. Who should I vote?

Would you rather I feign confidence and vote someone I'm not certain on?

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:59 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:48 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:55 am I don’t think most people would consider using personal friendship to emotional manipulate an example of good gameplay.

I’m not trying to make you feel guilty.

Breaks OP rules but not etiquette rules. I like it.
Omgusing this for you.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

What about Seanzie is sus to you?

He‘s voting FS.
I wouldn‘t vote FS with what I‘ve seen.
Do you think I shouldn‘t be sus of Sean, conversely ?

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:54 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:17 pm Anyway, before Seanzie made his comment:

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:13 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:59 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:48 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:55 am I don’t think most people would consider using personal friendship to emotional manipulate an example of good gameplay.

I’m not trying to make you feel guilty.

Breaks OP rules but not etiquette rules. I like it.
Omgusing this for you.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

What about Seanzie is sus to you?

He‘s voting FS.
I wouldn‘t vote FS with what I‘ve seen.
Do you think I shouldn‘t be sus of Sean, conversely ?

What specifically have you seen from FS that doesn’t merit voting there?

@Vivax you didn’t answer this but have gone on to post since

I think that FS play and posting was townie, mafia is less likely to break rules. I think Seanzie should have seen the same. The end.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:02 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:59 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:48 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:55 am I don’t think most people would consider using personal friendship to emotional manipulate an example of good gameplay.

I’m not trying to make you feel guilty.

Breaks OP rules but not etiquette rules. I like it.
Omgusing this for you.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

What about Seanzie is sus to you?

He‘s voting FS.
I wouldn‘t vote FS with what I‘ve seen.
Do you think I shouldn‘t be sus of Sean, conversely ?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:13 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:59 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:48 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:55 am I don’t think most people would consider using personal friendship to emotional manipulate an example of good gameplay.

I’m not trying to make you feel guilty.

Breaks OP rules but not etiquette rules. I like it.
Omgusing this for you.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

What about Seanzie is sus to you?

He‘s voting FS.
I wouldn‘t vote FS with what I‘ve seen.
Do you think I shouldn‘t be sus of Sean, conversely ?

What specifically have you seen from FS that doesn’t merit voting there?

If vivax is bad, splints is right there.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:59 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:48 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:55 am I don’t think most people would consider using personal friendship to emotional manipulate an example of good gameplay.

I’m not trying to make you feel guilty.

Breaks OP rules but not etiquette rules. I like it.
Omgusing this for you.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

What about Seanzie is sus to you?

He‘s voting FS.
I wouldn‘t vote FS with what I‘ve seen.
Do you think I shouldn‘t be sus of Sean, conversely ?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:13 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:59 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:48 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:55 am I don’t think most people would consider using personal friendship to emotional manipulate an example of good gameplay.

I’m not trying to make you feel guilty.

Breaks OP rules but not etiquette rules. I like it.
Omgusing this for you.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

What about Seanzie is sus to you?

He‘s voting FS.
I wouldn‘t vote FS with what I‘ve seen.
Do you think I shouldn‘t be sus of Sean, conversely ?

What specifically have you seen from FS that doesn’t merit voting there?

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:36 pm Dangerous dennis, pick wildly, I mean, wisely.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:21 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:14 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:55 am @falcon45ca - have you met matahari before? How did you feel about her picking you out of a lineup to provide vibes on her first two substantive posts?

No, I don't know Matahari...and that's odd for sure.

Also note this post @Kate.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:22 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:21 pm

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:45 am i want to post my thoughts so far, while I have a minute. They are definitely not deep thoughts, but how deep can they be on day 1?
New players get a pass, until later in the game. Absent players, as well.
if I don't mention you, its because I have you as town for now.

Falcon45ca- I didn't find it suspicious that you chose someone quickly because with movable votes, it seems like a lot of players throw votes around in a slap-happy fashion. then you were questioned about it, and you promptly posted quotes for why you made your vote. This looked legit to me at the time. Later it occurred to me that maybe you did all that too quickly, Pre-planned? But someone, Sabiplz, I think, said this was normal for your town game.

Soneji posted, I think, but I'll need to go back and look to make sure. ???

Lucy- so far, is reminding me of Dr. Wilgy. Too random to read, and weird posting just annoys me because I don't know what to do with it. I'd like to hear from players who are familiar with them.

Seanzie made a very risky statement for a town player to make. Or just an 'I can't be bothered' statement. Since it was preceded by an 'Ugh', I'm going with the former.

Sabiplz drew attention to his post, then backed away from it, then said she rarely voted early or often, then 17 minutes later she voted for Seanzie. None of this feels right.

Golden got a vote from Falcon, and although Falcon's reasons would not be enough to convince me to vote someone, I thought they were ok for a day 1. However after post 486 ( I think, I'll go back and check later and do an ebwop if necessary), I have Golden as town.

Marmot, no clue. I'd like to hear what other players think of him. ???

Everyone else, I have as probably town. I have no absolutes this early, but I'm watching the players above who pinged me. I'd like to hear what other players think of my not so deep thoughts, please.

Matahari wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:07 pm I slept most of the day. I did not intend to.
I still have Sabi as a suspicion, for reasons mentioned on d1, but I have considered that maybe they really mistrusted Seanzie. Then they started to backpedal some, and I’m back to sq1.

Why did Falcon vote Seanzie? Maybe they gave a reason why in an earlier post, but I can’t remember now so I’ll ISO them later or tomorrow.

I don’t understand Lucy’s vote for Bea either, it seems a bad idea to go after low posters, just for being a low poster, this early. (It doesn’t help that I still feel so bad for suspecting Bea in the anni game 1)

I can’t remember what else I read earlier because I’m getting sleepy again but I know there’s more. I’ll post again after I sleep on it.

Matahari wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:35 pm Im awake for the moment, and caught up, I’m sick and I apologize for that. I like to be present in games but I didn’t see this winter crap coming on this early, so I’m going to do my best here
@Dennis I think you’re doing fabulous. If I didn’t know you through your mom, I would probably be suspicious of your performance and think you had a team. But I don’t think you are mafia at this time, because Ive heard you’re smart and driven to excel, and Kate probably helped prepare you well before the game ever started. My op could change, but I doubt it will.
@Scotty I am still susp of Sabi because her actions during day1 reminded me of old old-school mafia, when a wolf would start to build a case against someone by just slinging a little mud, and later, the teammates would join in and the result would be a miselim. But, nobody joined in right away. That gave me pause, like maybe I was seeing something that just wasn’t there. Then Sabi seemed to back off and give up and I still don’t like it. Unless Sabi flips, I’m not going to know anything for sure. And if she is bad, then I’ll go back and look for anyone who might have subtly supported her.
I could see voting Lucy as a second choice, because I don’t like the reasoning behind her vote for Bea. Low posting is NAI and I don’t understand why someone would use that as criteria for a vote.
If I missed any other questions for me, please remind me. I’ll check in often.

The red is reeking of teammate references. Bring him up, cast light suspicion, then disregard.

Any thoughts on the interaction between scotty and Mata? I'm going to post this and then reread what scotty asked her.

I’m glad we basically were coming to the same conclusion there

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:20 pm

Matahari wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:07 pm I slept most of the day. I did not intend to.
I still have Sabi as a suspicion, for reasons mentioned on d1, but I have considered that maybe they really mistrusted Seanzie. Then they started to backpedal some, and I’m back to sq1.

Why did Falcon vote Seanzie? Maybe they gave a reason why in an earlier post, but I can’t remember now so I’ll ISO them later or tomorrow.

I don’t understand Lucy’s vote for Bea either, it seems a bad idea to go after low posters, just for being a low poster, this early. (It doesn’t help that I still feel so bad for suspecting Bea in the anni game 1)

I can’t remember what else I read earlier because I’m getting sleepy again but I know there’s more. I’ll post again after I sleep on it.

Hey Mata!

If you could make your top 2 biggest suspicions in your catch-up, who would they be?

When you say you’re back to sq1 with sabi, does that mean you don’t suspect them anymore? I can’t get a good read with this post what you actually think of the players you’re mentioning- it just seems like a catalogue of events

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:45 am i want to post my thoughts so far, while I have a minute. They are definitely not deep thoughts, but how deep can they be on day 1?
New players get a pass, until later in the game. Absent players, as well.
if I don't mention you, its because I have you as town for now.

Falcon45ca- I didn't find it suspicious that you chose someone quickly because with movable votes, it seems like a lot of players throw votes around in a slap-happy fashion. then you were questioned about it, and you promptly posted quotes for why you made your vote. This looked legit to me at the time. Later it occurred to me that maybe you did all that too quickly, Pre-planned? But someone, Sabiplz, I think, said this was normal for your town game.

Soneji posted, I think, but I'll need to go back and look to make sure. ???

Lucy- so far, is reminding me of Dr. Wilgy. Too random to read, and weird posting just annoys me because I don't know what to do with it. I'd like to hear from players who are familiar with them.

Seanzie made a very risky statement for a town player to make. Or just an 'I can't be bothered' statement. Since it was preceded by an 'Ugh', I'm going with the former.

Sabiplz drew attention to his post, then backed away from it, then said she rarely voted early or often, then 17 minutes later she voted for Seanzie. None of this feels right.

Golden got a vote from Falcon, and although Falcon's reasons would not be enough to convince me to vote someone, I thought they were ok for a day 1. However after post 486 ( I think, I'll go back and check later and do an ebwop if necessary), I have Golden as town.

Marmot, no clue. I'd like to hear what other players think of him. ???

Everyone else, I have as probably town. I have no absolutes this early, but I'm watching the players above who pinged me. I'd like to hear what other players think of my not so deep thoughts, please.

Matahari wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:07 pm I slept most of the day. I did not intend to.
I still have Sabi as a suspicion, for reasons mentioned on d1, but I have considered that maybe they really mistrusted Seanzie. Then they started to backpedal some, and I’m back to sq1.

Why did Falcon vote Seanzie? Maybe they gave a reason why in an earlier post, but I can’t remember now so I’ll ISO them later or tomorrow.

I don’t understand Lucy’s vote for Bea either, it seems a bad idea to go after low posters, just for being a low poster, this early. (It doesn’t help that I still feel so bad for suspecting Bea in the anni game 1)

I can’t remember what else I read earlier because I’m getting sleepy again but I know there’s more. I’ll post again after I sleep on it.

Matahari wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:35 pm Im awake for the moment, and caught up, I’m sick and I apologize for that. I like to be present in games but I didn’t see this winter crap coming on this early, so I’m going to do my best here
@Dennis I think you’re doing fabulous. If I didn’t know you through your mom, I would probably be suspicious of your performance and think you had a team. But I don’t think you are mafia at this time, because Ive heard you’re smart and driven to excel, and Kate probably helped prepare you well before the game ever started. My op could change, but I doubt it will.
@Scotty I am still susp of Sabi because her actions during day1 reminded me of old old-school mafia, when a wolf would start to build a case against someone by just slinging a little mud, and later, the teammates would join in and the result would be a miselim. But, nobody joined in right away. That gave me pause, like maybe I was seeing something that just wasn’t there. Then Sabi seemed to back off and give up and I still don’t like it. Unless Sabi flips, I’m not going to know anything for sure. And if she is bad, then I’ll go back and look for anyone who might have subtly supported her.
I could see voting Lucy as a second choice, because I don’t like the reasoning behind her vote for Bea. Low posting is NAI and I don’t understand why someone would use that as criteria for a vote.
If I missed any other questions for me, please remind me. I’ll check in often.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:40 pm Hmmmm...how impure is my wagon? Do what degree do I think it's tainted?



Like, at least 1, maybe 2 Maf.



Or! 4 simple, lost souls.



If Sean can't find me as Town this game after our last game together, he's Maf. Straight up, just like Wrigglin' Wilgy in the final RD of said game

Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:27 pm My daily post
I asked the host about being replaced, and I’m not sure that’s going to happen. So I’ll stick around and work with my issues best I can. I’m saying this because I don’t like it when other players feel like they need to cut me slack indefinitely and vice versa. That is just not fun for anyone. So judge me, vote me, or don’t, whatever feels right, because my situation isn’t going to resolve any time soon.
It’s Day 3, my feels are kicking in, but this game is just divided. I have OGs on a list, and New Gs in another list. In the OGs, I see mostly town, but I can’t say that definitely for Splints, Roxy, or Bea. I also can’t say they feel like mafia either. Splints used to be a bit accusing in her posts when she was bad ( long time ago, granted) and I’m not seeing that here. Roxy and Bea are not here much, but when they were, I had no sense of a mafia feel from their posts. So the last three are on the fence.
The New and the New Gs- very hard to go by intuition when there is no history with a player. But not impossible. And hold that thought. Going to eat, will finish this afterwards.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:32 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:27 pm Are you putting rondo up so high because of bea?

Why do you put vivax (mata) and Falcon firmly below scotty/splints?

I agree on rox, I think she's just not right about splints.

Yes, 100%. Was impressed with rondo in secret player mafia, haven’t seen that rondo here yet but they’re probably fairly occupied in that game. So I have no read on rondo here.

I have been spitballing Falcon/mata (now vivax) as a team since day one. So they’re below because I see them as a pair. If you iso matahari and read her first few posts in the game you might see why.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:27 pm Are you putting rondo up so high because of bea?

Why do you put vivax (mata) and Falcon firmly below scotty/splints?

I agree on rox, I think she's just not right about splints.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:12 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:01 pm Someone post a rainbow list. Pls.

Anybody but me, right?

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:18 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:18 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:16 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:15 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:14 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:02 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:49 pm

I’m just glad you see it now.

I've seen it for a while outside of ton foils which I'm always gonna do part of my style but tbf you've just gone from town lean to obvious town who I think is wrong but still town lol

Wrong about what.

Well considering we've had nearly opposite worlds views all game. Uh. Everything.

I think it’s much more likely that I am wrong about some things and you are wrong about some things and figuring that out collectively will be better than both of us screaming into the void.

You're gonna have to tell me that you're not mad at me or I'm gonna keep worrying about it

I was but not mad.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:16 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:15 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:14 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:02 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:49 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:46 pm So it shouldn't surprise you

I’m just glad you see it now.

I've seen it for a while outside of ton foils which I'm always gonna do part of my style but tbf you've just gone from town lean to obvious town who I think is wrong but still town lol

Wrong about what.

Well considering we've had nearly opposite worlds views all game. Uh. Everything.

I think it’s much more likely that I am wrong about some things and you are wrong about some things and figuring that out collectively will be better than both of us screaming into the void.

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:15 pm Does anyone actually know what's going on because I'm getting lost in the multiple worlds and they're mixing together

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:51 pm @Golden

I didn’t say you’re playing bad, I said I don’t understand it.

Worlds of different.



^^ me the rest of tonight.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:42 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:38 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:35 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:32 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:02 pm You don’t think the town benefits from getting strong civs to stop tinfoiling other civs?

So you think drawing a possible target (you could be wrong cause you think it’s true, you don’t know) on a player who’s worked pretty hard to maintain suspicion (cause we all know a few votes s day keep the NK away) is worth stopping the tinfoil?

It’s preferable to have a possible doc NKed to having them lynched in your mind?

And you seem so incredulous that there’s flak. I don’t think you’re bad but I am surprised at this development.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:08 pm There's two worlds here and I hate trying to figure out which one is real.

This this this so much. Imma go sit in a corner and rock.

See your response here is exactly what I claimed it to be.

I’m not incredulous that there’s pushback. I identified exactly what the pushback would be in advance. What you’re articulating here is what I thought you meant.

You think target painting Seanzie is bad etiquette. Simple.

It's not just bad etiquette, it's bad play. At least where I come from and I'm just baffled at your decision and Sean's reaction.

Ps. I asked earlier how anyone could possibly know they were saved. Is there anything you can point to?

I literally posted all the posts I don’t know what else you want.

And for calling it bad play.

Let me echo Roxy here and say it takes one second to be nice.

Every person who says ‘that’s bad play’ needs to look at themselves and think twice. No. You don’t have to agree with me but no.

Being wrong isn’t bad play
Making a gambit isn’t bad play
Being enigmatic isn’t bad play
Being straightforward isn’t bad play
Being quiet isn’t bad play

Everyone has their perspective. I’m doing my best with mine and you’re doing your best with yours. Scotty, Roxy… I’ve seen several people be told they’re playing bad this game and I don’t like it.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:35 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:32 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:02 pm You don’t think the town benefits from getting strong civs to stop tinfoiling other civs?

So you think drawing a possible target (you could be wrong cause you think it’s true, you don’t know) on a player who’s worked pretty hard to maintain suspicion (cause we all know a few votes s day keep the NK away) is worth stopping the tinfoil?

It’s preferable to have a possible doc NKed to having them lynched in your mind?

And you seem so incredulous that there’s flak. I don’t think you’re bad but I am surprised at this development.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:08 pm There's two worlds here and I hate trying to figure out which one is real.

This this this so much. Imma go sit in a corner and rock.

See your response here is exactly what I claimed it to be.

I’m not incredulous that there’s pushback. I identified exactly what the pushback would be in advance. What you’re articulating here is what I thought you meant.

You think target painting Seanzie is bad etiquette. Simple.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:13 pm : insert gif of pokemon character sipping tea here :

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:28 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:27 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:25 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:23 pm Seanzie says that but is voting Splints

I'll give you 5 guesses to figure out why I said what I said.

I hope that one day I understand your gameplay, as it's nothing if not interesting. You are always an enigma

At least he’s not an enema

I heard those are all the rage

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:25 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:23 pm Seanzie says that but is voting Splints

I'll give you 5 guesses to figure out why I said what I said.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:18 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:17 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:15 pm I'd elim Golden here.

Well.

That’s a departure from Golden’s theory

For real?

Why would Seanzie, the doctor that supposedly saved Golden on N2, ever be voting Golden here

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:15 pm I'd elim Golden here.

Well.

That’s a departure from Golden’s theory

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:56 am

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:55 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:52 am

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:51 am I know there are a lot of things I need to go back and address but it's very late and I just can't sleep but I'm too tired for indepth thought.

How about kicking Jack out and inviting Neon to be my sister? I'm still very much up for that idea.

Can I have both?

No.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:53 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:59 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:48 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:40 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:06 am Dennis opening today looks bad. And Lucy hit on some things eod that were bothering me about Dennis yesterday that I was mostly ignoring.

What about it? And I still don't understand what Lucy meant with the whole 'influence' thing. I don't think I've changed anybody's minds on anything if that what you mean, so feel free to keep pushing that.

I'm not good at words so let me try my best.

Your opening feels like a wolf trying to cover themself with the over hype doc praise followed by more cover for yourself because you immediately push suspicion onto looking only on the top wagon for scum a wagon you were firmly against.

That cover protects you the deep wolf and your team because the chances we hit correct in a 7 person pool are well 1 in 7 but if we focused off wagon that pool becomes 1 in 5 and it's almost certain all wolfs didn't stack on Soneji.

Oh and your firm anti Soneji position also reeks of TMI but also makes me think the other wagons that were close when Soneji started to take off also were town. I know I'm town and I was one of them.

I can't really argue with this but I'll try my darndest. I don't think my doc praise was necessarily 'overhype' but I think it's a little wild that doc saved someone twice in a row and wanted to express that.

I immediately pushed suspicion cuz this day feels pretty important, like this is our second or last chance to get a wolf, and I want to make the most of it by saying 'hey, these 6 people like almost definitely have a wolf' and others have said that point too. Do we not have more leads on the people in Soneji wagon than out?

I need someone to give me an explanation of TMI because my context clue skills are clearly not cutting it. It means too much information, I know that, but I don't understand the context it's meant to be used in. What do you mean 'close when Soneji started to take off'? Like wagons who has 2 votes?

It's not our last chance to get a wolf though

It's 10 v 3 I think

So on the worst case d5 is 8 v 3 d6 is 6 v 3 d7 is 4 v 3

At worst we have at least 4 days left.

Outside of that TMI basically means you have more info than a town should have. A wolf often slips tmi because a wolf obviously knows everyone's alignment where as a town doesn't.

I asked you to explain your vote on Falcon and you never really could give me a solid reason why other than your very high level of confidence that Soneji was town but you also never expressed any Soneji was town. Can you show me posts that made you think Soneji was most certainly town?

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:52 am

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:51 am I know there are a lot of things I need to go back and address but it's very late and I just can't sleep but I'm too tired for indepth thought.

How about kicking Jack out and inviting Neon to be my sister? I'm still very much up for that idea.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:48 am

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:45 am

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:37 am Kate i kinda want to get all tinfoiling out of the way. What are the chances we are wrong about svs?

My little mind doesn't see anyway we are looking at bad svs. You agree with me don't you?

Yes

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:38 am

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:35 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:29 am Someone please explain TMI I'm begging. I checked that link someone gave me a few days back and it's not on there.

Too much information

There’s also town-based sources for that in this game, though. For all I know you cop checked soneji (don’t confirm or deny that). But TMI is often seen as wolfy, because wolves can have difficulty faking lack of knowledge.

So TMI is like, leaking info other people aren't supposed yo know you have? Because I totally get how people see that. The only argument I have is that Soneji seemed good, Wild Dennis took over and went defensive mode, and that's what came out. Yes I was strong with my defense, I didn't want Soneji gone.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:37 am Kate i kinda want to get all tinfoiling out of the way. What are the chances we are wrong about svs?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:22 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:31 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji

I think that list is everyone who could be wolf unless I’ve been properly pocketed.

Ok so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.

That leaves:

Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.

What do you think of that list?

lol

Well here’s where things went wrong:
Why did you remove Roxy and splints from contention just for showing up?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:14 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:11 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:08 pm Ok like I said I haven’t backread yet and will only if I get time. Why did Soneji wagon take off?

We POE'd in thread then sort of made a consensus.

Interesting. I had him in my towncore before I headed out for the day.

If you could pull a Cher and turn back time, who would you have voted for instead?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:08 pm Ok like I said I haven’t backread yet and will only if I get time. Why did Soneji wagon take off?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:38 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:37 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:36 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:35 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:33 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:31 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:48 pm I like how I'm talking as if I know what I'm doing lol

You’re doing a fine job

i question this assumption

he's being treated the opposite of how i was being treated when i was new

we're both prodigious teens, i'm the most similar person to him in thread, funnily enough

I'm the most similar person to him in the thread.

that's not even true if we're speaking genetically (jack)

Jack and Dennis are fraternal twins and are as different as night and day.

As different as night and day?

Civ/wolf confirmed. But which one is night?

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:36 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:35 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:33 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:31 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:48 pm I like how I'm talking as if I know what I'm doing lol

You’re doing a fine job

i question this assumption

he's being treated the opposite of how i was being treated when i was new

we're both prodigious teens, i'm the most similar person to him in thread, funnily enough

I'm the most similar person to him in the thread.

that's not even true if we're speaking genetically (jack)