The Syndicate

Matt F wrote:

Roxy wrote:Sorry thought I was in a mafia mood today but it turns out I amnot.

BR - what posts of mine specifically say I am a sk? I prob will not be posting much more this cycle.

MF - idgaf if I am foolish or people think I am tbh. I think you all of your cases are distracting from finding actual baddies. I even asked you to back up earlier and not lead lynches based on half built cases or loopy theories. But you won't so I won't change my vote.

So you're willing to lynch me for being a "poor" townie? I don't want to "twist your words", so I'm asking you.

Also, Roxy - Do you believe I am town or scum? I'd like this answered.

Btw, at least I am playing and am constantly in the mood to play the game that I signed up for.

Matt F wrote:

Roxy wrote:So you are sticking with half a case made? You do just want hasty lynches that aren't thought out, I guess you will know whats coming next, right?

How is it half a case? Have you done your research in the thread? Anyone else post a meme/poster type post on Day 4?

Anyway, if I'm lynched because of this, so be it. I only hope the town doesn't let MacD get away with this for too long after I'm gone.

Matt F wrote:

Roxy wrote:MF -your theory is crap until you can show someone else was in that contest with MacD.
dont be so hasty as to lead another poss civ lynch. Get your facts straight first

Roxy, I'm not sure who else would've been in that contest. Maybe someone should see if any other player besides Mac posted a meme/poster type post during the Day 4 period? I dunno, but I do know, whoever was playing Mac in this contest certainly 100% lost, so Mac must've won.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:MP07 would have had to violate the terms of a role he wrote for Matt's theory to work.

Not buying it.

No, he wouldn't. All it says on the role list is that Found a Job has to pick a winner during the Night Phase. It doesn't say Found a Job has to be alive to do this. In fact, Found a Job actually used this "Night Power" on NIGHT 3, because Mac and whoever else it was that played had to perform their jobs on Day 4. Therefore, whether Sorsha was dead or not, I believe she still had the right to name a winner for the power she used on NIGHT 3, when she was actually alive.

TheFloyd73 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

TheFloyd73 wrote:Four posts in a row? MovingPictures isn't gonna be happy with that

Did I miss something?

You got it, Fuzz.

Yeah, I think you missed MP's message about it.

Matt F wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt F wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I need to look back and find out why Roxy voted Matt f. Looking at who is killed I am fairly confident she is a civvie. With how she is (perhaps I should say how we are lol) about new/returning players there is no way she is involved in any of those kills.

1) Are you saying in a Mafia with 7 players, only Roxy is able to decide who to kill?

2) I'm a returning player after missing Mafia for two years, and Roxy has been voting me the entire game, so your point is null and void.

You were gone for TWO YEARS? What? But we were just playing Sherlock together last... August... 2013... Wow. That went by quick!

I know, seems just like yesterday.

Anyway, Sorsha has a lot of votes already. I want to vote for her, as I have the last two days, but still have my reread to get through. If not her, I'm also looking at Devin today, and even though I probably won't vote for him, I also have an eye on Floyd still.

Devin - What are your thoughts on your CEO picks, Dr Wilgy and MetalMarsh? You haven't spoken to them or about them at all since Dusk 0.

Linki Roxy - Haha. So why'd you vote for me today? Because I found you suspicious on Day 1? :P

Like I said, if you ever get your way, I hope peeps notice that you've been avoiding pretty much everything else in favor of looking my way constantly.

Matt F wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I need to look back and find out why Roxy voted Matt f. Looking at who is killed I am fairly confident she is a civvie. With how she is (perhaps I should say how we are lol) about new/returning players there is no way she is involved in any of those kills.

1) Are you saying in a Mafia with 7 players, only Roxy is able to decide who to kill?

2) I'm a returning player after missing Mafia for two years, and Roxy has been voting me the entire game, so your point is null and void.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Relationship between Roxy and Long Con:

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Roxy wrote:Yay game - no time to play but I did vote

RBz bc weird name will prob equal an awesome player and Long Con only bc Black Rock is not playing

I have a night post to write <3

She voted LC on Dusk 0, and provided an excuse. Shrug.

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Roxy wrote:LC - His initial vote and suspicion fooled me bc I thought it was srsbns until he said it was a ploy to see who would run with it. I am not sure he did this bc of the result of llama's post asking if it is normal Bea response. (paraphrasing) and it gained no traction and then looked worse after the responses or bc he was really putting a trap into action. LC is tricksy for sure and always worth watching for now I will give him the botd and keep a close eye on him.

Roxy expresses some mild doubts about LC's ruse but doesn't commit to them. I'm not quite sure what she means when she reference's llama's response re: bea as being a reason to doubt LC's claim. Roxy could you please expand on what you meant?

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Roxy wrote:I am not digging the bandwagon on LC. I am still 5 pages behind but I just wanted to say - I thought it was a weak day 1 vote on Bea - I really believed he was going after Bea then when he backed off it was after llama had asked the question something like - do you think Bea's response was appropriate/" and so many chimed in and said yes bc one vote can lead to a late day bandwagon here or similar sentiments. Maybe it was a ploy to see if or what would come of his suspicion but it did seem a bit haphazard for a baddie LC. Which is why I think - would he do this if he was bad? No. I think he is a careful baddie. If he was going to try a ploy it would not have been something like this.

Ofc this is all wifom to the RYM'ers but it is true about LC. He would not be this sloppy if he was bad. No one who has played regularly with him has voted him just Wiggly who has been around for a couple of games and does not really know LC the way most of us do.


linky - FZ - Bcorn - odk bc I do not know his meta its hard to take someones word for it.

JJJ feels different this game. Is it bc of Sweden? Idk. He sure was not giving me the aggressive - JJJ supatownie at large vibe when he was here. But he is on vacation so maybe his mind is elsewhere, as it should be. Yep I am on the fence with him.

The highlighted bit about LC is about as strong an endorsement as one can offer. I've stated that I don't think it's inherently a huge issue that some people defended LC, in this case I'm inclined to wonder why Roxy used such strong language though. She expressed some doubts in the post I previously referenced, but they seemed to evaporate when LC was getting more defense from his fellow Syndicateers.

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Long Con wrote:Hmmm... well, there's been lots of activity since I went to bed last night. I just read through it all, what sticks out in my mind? The Roxy thing is funny to me (though I don't like her use of someone else's avatar because it confuses me). I feel a bit of a dissonance, Roxy is getting harassed for saying she was going to randomize, and at the same time people are saying that Random Voting on Day 1 is a sound strategy. So which is it? I'm not a big fan of random voting myself, I'd rather read through and see what my gut says on Day 1 than throw a dart. Which is why I have a vote on bea.

I don't think it's that likely that JJJ, Epig and the other person all voted as baddies together. Too risky. The votes for JJJ and Wilgy seemed pretty natural to me, as I recall.

More opinions about Day 1 so far will have to wait until I look back over things again. I read through it once, but it hasn't all sunk in yet - it's a little harder for me to get a handle on things with all the players that are new to me, the new people kind of blend together.

LC defends Roxy's honor w/r/t her perspective on randomized Day 1 votes. I don't think this is a bad look for Roxy, but it isn't good either because it wouldn't be a hard post to make about a team mate. Null.

Larger post in which he explains his beef with bea pre-ruse claim

A big component of this post was LC's assertion that bea was defending Roxy. I don't think this reflects any particular way on Roxy unless we assume LC wanted to force a link between her and bea -- I am not inclined to think so because I don't think his move against bea looked like bussing. UNLESS Roxy is mafia and he wanted to smear bea pre-emptively on that front. A bit speculative.

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Long Con wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Roxy, I'm glad to see you took your vote off me, but you're not allowed to placehold.

Why not? You were my placeholder so far should I return my vote there?

When you allow changeable votes then expect people to vote in wonky ways until we get closer to lynch time.

Still reading and thinking.

Actually, I just mean voting for the non-player option, but this got stuck in my head, probably from Recruitement, as voting that as a placeholder.

MovingPictures07 wrote:6. No self-voting, even as a placeholder. This is considered an illegal move in this game as much as voting for the non-player option.

Good eye, Rico. Roxy must be punished!

Just goofing around I think, null.

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Her perspectives about LC's ruse are a bit inconsistent I think and she should speak about that. Minor negative pings.

FZ. wrote:Whoa, what the hell happened after I went to sleep, and how did Bea end up dying?

Can I just say how much I hate the fact that I can never be here when the day ends Remind me to only join games hosted by non Americans.

Going to catch up.

MattF wrote:Currently Sorsha and Roxy are my top scum reads. Roxy, as well as Sorsha, completely NO U'd me after I showed suspicion on them, and they both have connections to Long Con, and they both called me out for daring to attempt a discussion on Day 0 events (they didn't want to, kind of like that scum player, oh what was his name? Oh yeah Long Con)

As for other players, I'll delve more into detail later. I want Sorsha lynched today.

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Roxy -

Roxy wrote:I voted for you and am suspicious of you is a bit more than a No u. That characterization seems to try to make my suspicion into fluff which it is not.

You start out with your bogus claim that RBZ and I had btsc or communicated by PM and that my post saying "Keterman is RBZMNGHJ??" was fake - which if you had actually read the post from which you quoted this "suspicion" would have never happened. The fact that it did happen and that you pushed it (but not hard enough to vote for) is highly suspicious to me.

No, I was suspicious of you, and as you prove my point about NOU in the second paragraph here, you became suspicious of me because I was suspicious of you.

You never had a valid suspicion to begin with!!!!

Your initial suspicion was that I somehow knew RBZsndmjkx was Keterman and was PM'ing him or having BTSC with him to know he was Keterman. When in fact - YOU quoted a post of RBZdnkieo's and conveniently snipped the rest of the post that explained all of his names on other sites and how he played here before.

his original post - http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 75#p181675

Your snipped version of the same EXACT post - http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 99#p181799

It's funny. You must not have read the thread, because I actually said "Maybe Rbz PM'd Roxy just to talk about old Piano days" and that was in defense of you guys NOT having btsc. It wasn't to prove a point that you did.

I do read the thread and will honestly say when I don't. I just proved that *you* do *not* read the thread like you claim to in your latest post to MacD. I know what you posted but it was still inferring illegal BTSC which I do not like the insinuation.

Roxy wrote:Then you move onto Teeth - which my vote was NOT based that you were the third voter moine was bc you had pushed me and RBZ then suddenly without so much as have an apple you jump on the Teeth wagon. With your bogus reasoning about the day 0 poll.

You keep saying that he ended the vote when he moved his vote is something I am not grasping please elaborate. Are you saying Teeth personally picked the winner of the Day 0 poll and told MP and Sloon to end the Day 0 bc he had chosen the winner? BC that is what it reads like.
You do realize Teeth was civ right?

When you made your sudden turn onto Teeth you slammed your suspicion down and voted without bothering to wait for a response, which is weird bc you said you did not want to vote for RBZ or me until hearing from him - so why does RBZ have a chance to respond but you give Teeth no window of opportunity to respond? Double standard much?

As Russ pointed out (btw Russ, I believe I answered why I voted for bwt at that particular time, but if you have any other questions, please let me know) Roxy, the Day 0 poll was fixed in such a way that the fifth vote would end the poll. So yes, BWT did pick one of the winners and ended the poll while also saying "Let's make this interesting "

I will say honestly I did not remember much from the rules of the Day 0 poll. I never put much stock into them as they have led to more civvie lynches than I would care to count. I stand corrected. But now we know he did not do this out of nefarious reasons and he was just being Crazy Teeth it spins this into a different light for me to you. I think it makes you look worse as so far your theory has led you to lynch a civvie.

Oh, and yeah, I do realize BWT was civvie. Snarky much?

Not snark - just my humor. Sorry if you took it as snark.

As for not giving BWT time to respond, I had hoped to get home in time from work that night to reevaluate my vote, but I didn't. When I had to leave for work, RBZ had yet to answer and Sorsha had yet to point out my mistake (while again, instead of you showing me my mistake, pulled a NOU)

CANNOT BE A NO U when there was never a VALID suspicion to begin with.

Roxy wrote:I see you keep harping on the Day 0 poll crap and tbh it has already led to a civ lynch are you really srsly going to keep going down your bogus path? So much else has happened yet you still hold onto your Day 0 suspicions like they are your last breath. I find it odd.

Yep I am this far behind I read some last night and fell asleep will be on it today.

This is false. False false false. My vote didn't "lead" into any lynch. If I remember correctly, the other people who voted for BWT were voting for him for COMPLETELY different reasons then why I did. Why are you making it seem like I lead the lynch on BWT and everyone followed my lead because of my super awesome ideas? If you are civvie, you need to stop making stuff up like that.

Its true. True true true. Your vote led you to a civvie lynch. I do not hold you personally accountable for everyone's vote just your own. I was just trying to pull your head out of Day 0 and back to the actual Days events where there was other stuff happening. Your Day 0 theory had already proven fruitless why continue with it?

Also, btw Roxy, between you and a few others who have "lectured" me on looking at Day 0 and thinking that gee golly there might be something there, I expect you all to not mention Day 0 for the rest of the game or you get a huge from me.

No worries there I usually never use Day 0 stuff. BC as I said earlier it usually leads to a civvie lynch.

As for who I'm voting, not sure. I still have about three hours, I think, if I'm not mistaken. I haven't commented on seaside, but considering my suspicions of Choutas, I had him marked as a "maybe mafia", but now it looks like a few people are having some kind of inside communication with seaside where they think he's definitely civvie.

I might vote for Eloh or Sorsha today. Not sure which, but leaning Eloh atm.

I could also be convinced to vote Dr Wilgy OR JJJ, if only because these two are the assistant CEO's, and yes, to my dying breath Roxy, I think one of these two are Mafia simply because they were voted for on Day 0.

Keep your dying breath and come up with an actual valid suspicion of me or hop off. You cannot keep calling what you said was a suspicion bc it never was valid. You even admit it.

Matt F wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:You suspecting my suspects and Matt F suspecting you makes this really hard, but it does make me feel like at least one of the three of you is lying.

Again, Russ, is there anything you'd like to ask me? I am not afraid of any questions as I have nothing to hide. Ask away.

Also, as with Roxy, I believe Sorsha only started suspecting me once I became suspicious of her and Eloh. In fact, I believe you are one of the few people to suspect me without NOU. And again, if you have any questions, ask away.

Linki JJJ - Thanks

Russtifinko wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Matt F wrote:RIP bwt. I'm sorry to see you go, and feel bad about contributing to your lynch, but I stand by my vote in the fact that it did not appear civvie-like to say and do the things you were doing during dusk. You will be missed, though

Sorsha - Thank you for bringing attention to Rbz's post (the same exact post that pinged me, ironic) where he stated who he was. I shouldn't have missed that, however, since it was in OT green, it's entirely possible I skipped over it. Sometimes I read OT, sometimes I don't. Either way, thanks.

Roxy - I did not want to vote for you or Rbz because I was waiting for Rbz to clarify. Fortunately, Sorsha took the time to show me what was up, contrary to your actions, which was just to NoU me. As for bwt, if I am the only player that thinks his behavior was suspicious Dusk 0, then so be it. However, even after seeing the results of the lynch, I still find his behavior during Dusk suspicious, and believe my reason for voting him was valid.

Some have been pinged by me voting third for bwt. I've played about two dozen games of mafia, and I don't ever remember this being a thing. I haven't played for about two years, though, so maybe it's something new? Either way, all I can is circumstance. I had to go to work, I wanted to vote early in case I didn't make it home in time (I didn't, btw), and BWT was my strongest feeling at the time.

Straw - To me, it sounded off. "Kinda" and "very" don't go together IMO, in fact, I've never heard anyone utter "I had a kinda very good day" or "My meal was kinda very good", so I questioned him on it. It wasn't a strong ping, but it was there.

Again, RIP birds.

I voted for you and am suspicious of you is a bit more than a No u. That characterization seems to try to make my suspicion into fluff which it is not.

You start out with your bogus claim that RBZ and I had btsc or communicated by PM and that my post saying "Keterman is RBZMNGHJ??" was fake - which if you had actually read the post from which you quoted this "suspicion" would have never happened. The fact that it did happen and that you pushed it (but not hard enough to vote for) is highly suspicious to me.

Then you move onto Teeth - which my vote was NOT based that you were the third voter moine was bc you had pushed me and RBZ then suddenly without so much as have an apple you jump on the Teeth wagon. With your bogus reasoning about the day 0 poll.

You keep saying that he ended the vote when he moved his vote is something I am not grasping please elaborate. Are you saying Teeth personally picked the winner of the Day 0 poll and told MP and Sloon to end the Day 0 bc he had chosen the winner? BC that is what it reads like.
You do realize Teeth was civ right?

When you made your sudden turn onto Teeth you slammed your suspicion down and voted without bothering to wait for a response, which is weird bc you said you did not want to vote for RBZ or me until hearing from him - so why does RBZ have a chance to respond but you give Teeth no window of opportunity to respond? Double standard much?

I see you keep harping on the Day 0 poll crap and tbh it has already led to a civ lynch are you really srsly going to keep going down your bogus path? So much else has happened yet you still hold onto your Day 0 suspicions like they are your last breath. I find it odd.

Yep I am this far behind I read some last night and fell asleep will be on it today.

Roxy, I am probably the most suspicious of Matt F besides you. I say this in the most friendly possible way, so please don't take it wrong, but this reads a little like Roxy tunneling to me.

I missed Day 0, so someone please correct me when I am wrong, but my understanding is this: the Day 0 poll worked such that when 2 players had 5 votes each, it ended immediately and they won. So in essence, yeah, BWT basically chose the winners and told our hosts to end the poll. Again, I could be wrong there, but if my understanding is right I still actually find that part of Matt's suspicion very reasonable.

That said, I still think the timing on his vote was suspicious. As I'm writing this I'm finding that I'm convincing myself more and more that he might not be bad, though. Reading back, he's shown me absolutely nothing today as far as meaningful contributions, but the more I read over early game stuff, the more genuine I see him.

MacDougall wrote:I'm not sure how I'm really catching flak for this actually. Seaside was getting votes before I said anything. If I wanted him lynched and I was scum I could have just shut up and put attention elsewhere. As it stands I actually do think he's the best chance of flipping scum. Sometimes things ARE what they seem. Actually most of the time. It's called Occam's Razor.

I haven't really heard any good reasons why we shouldn't lynch him and we should instead lynch someone else.

You guys are coming across like scum players preparing for a town flip and planning your next townie lynch candidate.

Interesting thought. By "you guys", who do you mean here besides Sorsha?

I feel worst so far, in no particular order, about Sorsha and Epi.

I also would like to hear what Chouthas says to motel room. That vote looks like the Day 2 equivalent of Matt F's.

FZ., I really don't like your vote here. I think you should go with your gut instead of taking other people's word for it.

Linki: Also don't love Sorsha trying to push LC harder to people who don't know LC here. I'm voting Sorsha.

MacDougall wrote:We just lynched a guy who looked scum and was. Occam's Razor.

Occam's Razor also suggests that the person who came in at the end of the day and was largely responsible for lynching the scum is a townie, so I'm pretty happy with James right now.

Occam ain't failed us yet friends.

Occam's Razor tells us that one or more of;

FZ
Sorsha
Epi
Roxy

Are scum. Each of them tried to pull up the initial LC scumwagon (I am now going to make a band called LC Scumwagon). Were there others I'm missing that are guilty of that? I say we put together a list of people who were responsible for nearly not lynching Mr Scum and burn their feet until they talk.

Roxy, you first.

Roxy wrote:I am not digging the bandwagon on LC. I am still 5 pages behind but I just wanted to say - I thought it was a weak day 1 vote on Bea - I really believed he was going after Bea then when he backed off it was after llama had asked the question something like - do you think Bea's response was appropriate/" and so many chimed in and said yes bc one vote can lead to a late day bandwagon here or similar sentiments. Maybe it was a ploy to see if or what would come of his suspicion but it did seem a bit haphazard for a baddie LC. Which is why I think - would he do this if he was bad? No. I think he is a careful baddie. If he was going to try a ploy it would not have been something like this.

Ofc this is all wifom to the RYM'ers but it is true about LC. He would not be this sloppy if he was bad. No one who has played regularly with him has voted him just Wiggly who has been around for a couple of games and does not really know LC the way most of us do.

linky - FZ - Bcorn - odk bc I do not know his meta its hard to take someones word for it.

JJJ feels different this game. Is it bc of Sweden? Idk. He sure was not giving me the aggressive - JJJ supatownie at large vibe when he was here. But he is on vacation so maybe his mind is elsewhere, as it should be. Yep I am on the fence with him.

Using bullshit meta to defend a confirmed scum in a game ruled by Occam? You've got my vote Roxy.

PS: You also cast dispersions against hero town Jimmy, again using wifom and meta. You are bad Roxy. Scum bad.

As much as I hate going back on a read Llama and Long Con were there to be lynched and a scum got lynched. Unless we had two scum players on the grill then I'm flipping the script and I have Llama as hugely trusted megatown. If this were an old school RYM game I would role reveal to you and tell you all the stuff I'd learned from BTSC communications.

So much analysis to be analysed but for now Roxy you got some explaining to do.

Matt F wrote:RIP bwt. I'm sorry to see you go, and feel bad about contributing to your lynch, but I stand by my vote in the fact that it did not appear civvie-like to say and do the things you were doing during dusk. You will be missed, though

Sorsha - Thank you for bringing attention to Rbz's post (the same exact post that pinged me, ironic) where he stated who he was. I shouldn't have missed that, however, since it was in OT green, it's entirely possible I skipped over it. Sometimes I read OT, sometimes I don't. Either way, thanks.

Roxy - I did not want to vote for you or Rbz because I was waiting for Rbz to clarify. Fortunately, Sorsha took the time to show me what was up, contrary to your actions, which was just to NoU me. As for bwt, if I am the only player that thinks his behavior was suspicious Dusk 0, then so be it. However, even after seeing the results of the lynch, I still find his behavior during Dusk suspicious, and believe my reason for voting him was valid.

Some have been pinged by me voting third for bwt. I've played about two dozen games of mafia, and I don't ever remember this being a thing. I haven't played for about two years, though, so maybe it's something new? Either way, all I can is circumstance. I had to go to work, I wanted to vote early in case I didn't make it home in time (I didn't, btw), and BWT was my strongest feeling at the time.

Straw - To me, it sounded off. "Kinda" and "very" don't go together IMO, in fact, I've never heard anyone utter "I had a kinda very good day" or "My meal was kinda very good", so I questioned him on it. It wasn't a strong ping, but it was there.

Again, RIP birds.

Ricochet wrote:Oh no, not bim beri birdi zimbra. RIP BWT. Mislynched on D1 for fixating on players' tone/wording and seeming to make easy votes. Same as he ever was.

Also, this is the least crappy version I was able to record this morning:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s04db6bt72PI

Epignosis wrote:<<<<<<<<<<<snip>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sometimes you explain the joke to where it isn't funny anymore.

Epignosis wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Roxy wrote:Those voting low posters based on there content after all the discussion we have had twitch my nose FYI.

What about people voting those new to The Syndicate?

If you are referring to my vote - he is not new to me.

Linky - Golden - what do you mean "side I took"?

No, you always harp against voting new people- well half the people here are new.

Epignosis wrote:

Roxy wrote:Those voting low posters based on there content after all the discussion we have had twitch my nose FYI.

What about people voting those new to The Syndicate?

Epignosis wrote:Matt F suggested that he might change his vote, but I don't see him doing so at this point.

Somebody read him. I don't believe he ever mentioned bwt prior to his vote.

That's...tacking the third vote on somebody for no stated reason.

Matt F wrote:Have to leave for work. It's a short day, I'm off about an hour before the poll ends, but I don't know whether or not I'll be home, so voting now.

I'd still like Rbz to clarify his comment about Roxy. I'd especially like to hear his take on Roxy saying they have never been friends on any site and how that reconciles him being able to describe a "classic Roxy" to defend her...

Despite this, I'm placing my vote for BWTtoday.

Early in the Dusk 0 poll, he invited people to vote for him, and in return, he would not vote for them in any lynch for the rest of the game. That isn't townie behavior. In addition, he was the final vote for Dr Wilgy after switching his vote, despite not every player having the chance to vote yet. It doesn't feel like civvie behavior to switch your vote to declare a winner when not every player has had a chance.

If I'm home before the poll ends, I'll see if Rbz has responded and go from there.

Peace

Long Con wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Roxy, I'm glad to see you took your vote off me, but you're not allowed to placehold.

Why not? You were my placeholder so far should I return my vote there?

When you allow changeable votes then expect people to vote in wonky ways until we get closer to lynch time.

Still reading and thinking.

Actually, I just mean voting for the non-player option, but this got stuck in my head, probably from Recruitement, as voting that as a placeholder.

MovingPictures07 wrote:6. No self-voting, even as a placeholder. This is considered an illegal move in this game as much as voting for the non-player option.

Good eye, Rico. Roxy must be punished!

Ricochet wrote:Roxy, I'm glad to see you took your vote off me, but you're not allowed to placehold.

Diiny wrote:

Choutas wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Choutas wrote:Rico's reaction looks a bit forced and unconvincing.

It's never good when someone pulls the "that's how I roll" card.

This is how Roxy responded to me AND how I responded to a bunch of allegations, yet you've defended me a couple of times. What's up?

Diiny wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Diiny wrote:I'll spill the beans when you tell me whether or not it was your intention to provoke reactions with your threat of randomizing, bls

Both -

your turn

I like to go hard and fling shit on day 1, using pressure to gauge reactions not only from the person I'm putting pressure on but from other players, too. If you felt I was being needlessly condescending or aggressive I apologise as that's not my direct intention at all. It does help get the shitstorm brewing, though.

I'm not asking you to change you to convert to those holy words in the Book of Diiny, but I'm nonetheless unapologetically cracking down on behaviour I find potentially anti-town/scummy to try to better understand the motives behind it and hence get a better idea of where I stand on you, provoking reactions for everyone in the process.

And as much as I appreciate that this is your playstyle, there's only so much clemency that being on-meta can invoke from me when that playstyle really doesn't seem that pro-town to me.

Diiny wrote:I'll spill the beans when you tell me whether or not it was your intention to provoke reactions with your threat of randomizing, bls

Diiny wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Diiny wrote:I'm also extremely unhappy with Roxy's off topic to mafia ratio. I won't be happy if you randomise at all. Day 1 is about MAKING concrete evidence through stirring shit and provoking reactions, not just waiting for it to happen and throwing your vote onto random people.

Are you "extremely unhappy" because you think her behavior promotes an anti-town strategy, or because you don't think it promotes a town strategy that resonates with you?

Both.

I'm unhappy with Roxy because it seems like weak faux-town play: Not actually voting based off of anything, avoiding committing to anything solid or helpful and then blaming that on a lack of evidence that it's a townie's job to extract rather than wait for. Roxy looks like scum trying to look involved but doing so in the least accountable way. But I'm also unhappy because they could well still be town promoting a strategy or playing the game in such a way that, yes, I don't think benefits town at all.

Diiny wrote:I should say that's more than an accusation of you being too quiet per se, it's an accusation of you being fundementally off-meta.

Sorsha also raised my eyebrow, chiming in to answer an easy question about polls and then leaving without sharing any views or making any real attempt to play mafia.

I'm also extremely unhappy with Roxy's off topic to mafia ratio. I won't be happy if you randomise at all. Day 1 is about MAKING concrete evidence through stirring shit and provoking reactions, not just waiting for it to happen and throwing your vote onto random people.