I think this is the best point you've got.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:41 am There's also the general fact that there's literally nothing to say about sprityo and Rej still said things about sprityo.
And it's the last one you made.
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I think this is the best point you've got.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:41 am There's also the general fact that there's literally nothing to say about sprityo and Rej still said things about sprityo.
I hate commenting on this shit, but...JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:37 am tbh the TH kill could also be in Dom's favor. How long has it been since they've played a Mafia game together? That would be a lame choice.
Obviously all of this stuff is subject to "but maybe the other mafioso overrode!". I'll consider that player-by-player. I don't think Epignosis gets overrode. I think Dom would be reasonably animated about it too.
That tracks.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:38 amMichelle has already responded to me, and I think she sounds pretty genuine for the most part. I got nothing for sprityo.
I find that more null than anything.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:36 amIt was around 5 (Rej) - 3 (LC), made it 6-3 by voting Rej then 5-4 when she switched to LC.Dom wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:29 amDoes someone more detail oriented than I have a tally of the votes when the nut switched her vote?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:25 am GTH nut is civ. Her reaction EoD feels genuine and how she was flip flopping. Feel like she came in late without any prep and everything caught her by surprise. There was that post where she reacts to someone else's take on the Rej's/LC thing and switches from Rej to LC.
I think you also profile as someone who could kill TH.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:33 amI have an argument for it at least now yes. He profiles as someone I could see shooting TH, and dumping that interactive analysis in the thread reads like he is trying to distance himself from that kill via wifom.
He also hard defended Rej at EOD. Rej's reactions to him were a bit friendly too.
I don't see the point you originally made, though.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:29 amI don't really like the "current play feels scummy", and how he further reflected on it apparently but it doesn't make sense. Like why doesn't it make sense for him? And where's that reflection at.Dom wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:05 amSpeedchucks evolution seems well marked here. In fact, he never really jumps on the drago train very hard. Nova, I'm not sure your analysis is fully there.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:20 amBecause not Dragomir. Dragomir's current play feels scummy, but doesn't make much sense as scumplay on further reflection.
I buy Dragomir's response to pressure better than Rej's. Rej has been on edge since the first time he was prodded.
Felt like a disproportionate reaction, hardly worth noting at the time. But it's escalated to the point that he has a vote on you, and that read doesn't seem genuine. He's banking all of his analysis on the one Persona game, which is fallacious as heck. "JJJ isn't doing things exactly like he did in P5" is not a case, it's a justification.Rej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:07 amGimme a break I cant ISO posts on mobile, can I?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:35 am @Rej what is your absolute favorite thing ever about sprityo in this here game thread?
I don't mind that his initial take on Rej's thing here, but he seemed to soften up when Jay gave him some more insight on the Persona game and how it was the only game the two player together. It made me think that he didn't really buy his own stuff, and he just pulled Persona out of nowhere.
Does someone more detail oriented than I have a tally of the votes when the nut switched her vote?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:25 am GTH nut is civ. Her reaction EoD feels genuine and how she was flip flopping. Feel like she came in late without any prep and everything caught her by surprise. There was that post where she reacts to someone else's take on the Rej's/LC thing and switches from Rej to LC.
I didn't notice that.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:27 amHis vote is on me. U dipping those tippy toes in the lynch JJJ water![]()
I don't see why rej wouldn't vote for Drago.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:23 amGoing hard against him isn't what I'm grieving about. It's the for what and the how behind going hard against him. It's been mainly been about him refusing to share reads, and being stubborn. It doesn't make sense how strong and stiff your read seems to be when it's based on stuff like that. It doesn't feel real to me and there doesn't seem to be any kind of development one way or another. Seems like you just latched on to it to have an easy scum read and fake contribution. Like a robot lol, especially with the "this is why I suspect Drago *insert him refusing to share reads*" rather than it being about the content of his posts. It's weak.Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:58 pmAh. I misunderstood what you meant by "Doing Dom".novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:46 pmI iso'd you. You spent most of that day giving him shit for being stubborn and refusing to comply with giving reads. It doesn't feel like there is much else, you were quoting the posts were he was messing around that way with some bullshit "this is why I suspect Drago". There is no progression, nothing else. Feels like you just jumped on the bandwagon, and you've been milking it to have a scum read to navigate the game through.
Sure. I've been going hard after Dragomir. Does that seem out of the ordinary to you? Where do you stand on it? Here's where I'm at:
Drago was my top suspect during Day 1. Rej's lack of vote on him and the way the EoD went down do not lead me to change that belief. I'm open to other ideas, but I see no reason why I should be crucified over being consistent and having any semblance of logic to my thoughts. Rej did not vote for him. That does not make me feel great about him.
Also-- is nutella civ?
That's actually something I think reflects good on him. Rej wasn't voting him, but Drago also didn't vote him. If they're teammate, I'd think they vote for each other in that scenario since they neutralize their own vote against each other. I'd like to know what you think more about his posts and the think he shared.
I agree.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:19 am That end of day reads like Jay coordinating Long Con and Rej to try to create the most distance between each other.
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:17 pmHe is a fucking ArsonistJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:17 pm @Rej please say what you have against LC as quickly as possible. We're very short on time.And yes, he did actually try to defend Rej after all.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:19 pm Rej could have saved himself all day by voting Dragomir. Instead he opted to push this Long Con wagon, which until three minutes ago was an unlikely enterprise for survival.I don't like this.
I can't name a fact about the player for the whole game without looking it up.
You should try the wine in front of you.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:03 amDom wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:01 amSpeedcheck is someone I was suspecting in a different game and I tend to get confused when I start two gays at the same time. I need to look back at this game and see if any wires crossed, etc.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:53 pm Speedchuck's someone who I've also been mulling over. His Drago stuff is also in the same veins as Dom, he was shadowing people there and the progression of off him was a little too easy. Also I'm not sure how he ended up on Rej. There was no real conviction behind it or a push at all
I think it's compatible with teammates.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:55 pmWhat's your take on his bold defense of Rej, and the latter's handling of him?![]()
Speedchucks evolution seems well marked here. In fact, he never really jumps on the drago train very hard. Nova, I'm not sure your analysis is fully there.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:20 amBecause not Dragomir. Dragomir's current play feels scummy, but doesn't make much sense as scumplay on further reflection.
I buy Dragomir's response to pressure better than Rej's. Rej has been on edge since the first time he was prodded.
Felt like a disproportionate reaction, hardly worth noting at the time. But it's escalated to the point that he has a vote on you, and that read doesn't seem genuine. He's banking all of his analysis on the one Persona game, which is fallacious as heck. "JJJ isn't doing things exactly like he did in P5" is not a case, it's a justification.Rej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:07 amGimme a break I cant ISO posts on mobile, can I?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:35 am @Rej what is your absolute favorite thing ever about sprityo in this here game thread?
Speedcheck is someone I was suspecting in a different game and I tend to get confused when I start two gays at the same time. I need to look back at this game and see if any wires crossed, etc.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:53 pm Speedchuck's someone who I've also been mulling over. His Drago stuff is also in the same veins as Dom, he was shadowing people there and the progression of off him was a little too easy. Also I'm not sure how he ended up on Rej. There was no real conviction behind it or a push at all
I think it's compatible with teammates.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:55 pmWhat's your take on his bold defense of Rej, and the latter's handling of him?
I didn't accuse you of shit. I am questioning you in the way I question literally everyone. If you don't like it, maybe you should post less and produce less content to question.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:45 pmIt's... right there in the post? I just said it? Right there!Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:43 pmI don't really know what you want me to respond to-- and that's what I take issue with.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:40 pmTake your time then and actually answer the things I have said. You've been exposed to two posts now with my concern, and instead of talking about them you've given me a shrug emoji and a gaslight.
You've spent all of your hunting energy on Dragomir and Rej. I would estimate the distribution between those two to be about 90-10. I am not convinced that you were interested in getting to the bottom of Dragomir's alignment, and instead you were intent to bury him under the mass of pressure he took early in the game. That continues now. I have very little clue where you stand on anyone in this game other than Dragomir.
Address this however you may, and I will give you time to do so.
Moving on.
And don't tell me I'm gaslighting. I've literally accused you of nothing.
Also:
That's an accusation. Gaslighting.
Ah. I misunderstood what you meant by "Doing Dom".novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:46 pmI iso'd you. You spent most of that day giving him shit for being stubborn and refusing to comply with giving reads. It doesn't feel like there is much else, you were quoting the posts were he was messing around that way with some bullshit "this is why I suspect Drago". There is no progression, nothing else. Feels like you just jumped on the bandwagon, and you've been milking it to have a scum read to navigate the game through.
I am answering nova, and I don't need to take orders from you, k?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:49 pm That's essentially what I am trying to say re: Dom, nova.
Dom, if you don't know what I want from you, then try answering nova instead. Basically the same thing.
What does that mean?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:42 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:29 pmnovaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:54 pmWhat are those grievances? I'm interested. I had earlier grievances with his initial entrance and the stubbornness that led to you activated my trap card moment, but I've been reconsidering that since he opened up with his LC suspicion. There is also Rej's handling of him and his bold defense of Rej that makes him look good.Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:43 pmBecause I still have grievances there. Damn can't you read?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:55 pm Dragomir's been basically the focal point of D1 and he didn't even get lynched lolWhat are you trying to do here?
Doing Dom. Feels like he's milking his Drago stuff, majority of his D1 is giving shit to Dragomir mostly about being stubborn and not sharing his toughts.
I don't really know what you want me to respond to-- and that's what I take issue with.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:40 pmTake your time then and actually answer the things I have said. You've been exposed to two posts now with my concern, and instead of talking about them you've given me a shrug emoji and a gaslight.
You've spent all of your hunting energy on Dragomir and Rej. I would estimate the distribution between those two to be about 90-10. I am not convinced that you were interested in getting to the bottom of Dragomir's alignment, and instead you were intent to bury him under the mass of pressure he took early in the game. That continues now. I have very little clue where you stand on anyone in this game other than Dragomir.
Address this however you may, and I will give you time to do so.
Moving on.
I also agree with this. We're all allowed to be wrong.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:37 pmJay is allowed to be wrong if he is town. He'll corner the wolves and squeeze them out eventually.Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:35 pmI largely agree. I think it just means that Jay's analysis isn't fool proof.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 pm I don't think Epi's case on Jay holds much water at all. Nothing that was pointed out is outside of Jay's town play. It's still a mild town tick for Epi though. I still think Jay is town.
I largely agree. I think it just means that Jay's analysis isn't fool proof.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 pm I don't think Epi's case on Jay holds much water at all. Nothing that was pointed out is outside of Jay's town play. It's still a mild town tick for Epi though. I still think Jay is town.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:35 pm Interactions: Rej and Dom
Rej
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Blank chatter, don't care.
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Rej stood in Dom's camp here (albeit with the little "But I ask" addendum at the end, doesn't mean a lot to me). That Rej specifically declared an intention to ISO Dom and then came back saying he didn't feel the need anymore, Dom just looks townish -- I think that is a decent look for Dom. If a mafioso is trying to prop up a teammate, I kind of doubt it takes this shape. Instead of projecting an ISO and then saying nevermind, they just produce the ISO (or some concrete post) and provide evidence to support the town read.
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Dom
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Context clues suggest that Dom is referring to TH's Rej mafia read with "half of this post". He expands on that himself; the stance is distinctly anti-Rej.
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Further prodding.
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Conclusion: What exists here is mostly in Dom's favor I think, if not necessarily substantive. One issue that Dom should speak to lies with his vote, which remained on Dragomir as he made his vocal motions against Rej. Dom's last post was about 6 hours before the deadline, so keep in mind that he wasn't around for the late developments.
Gun to my head, he's a dog.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:01 pmI'm going to go ahead and just call you a suspect straight up. We don't need "darkhorse".Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:42 pmJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:22 pm Dom would be my "darkhorse" pick at the moment. While he didn't sound disingenuous, the objective criteria still stands as something he'll have to answer to. He contributed vocally to some of the suspicion of Rej, but his vote never wavered from Dragomir. He wasn't around late in the day; I do think he was here late enough to begin to reconsider his take on Dragomir at least.
i hate agreeing with you bc reasons
but i agree with you
I also agree with this.![]()
I don't like this post.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:22 pm Dom would be my "darkhorse" pick at the moment. While he didn't sound disingenuous, the objective criteria still stands as something he'll have to answer to. He contributed vocally to some of the suspicion of Rej, but his vote never wavered from Dragomir. He wasn't around late in the day; I do think he was here late enough to begin to reconsider his take on Dragomir at least.
i hate agreeing with you bc reasons
I also agree with this.
And LC?Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:30 pm>Trying to go with the grainLong Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:58 pmOk how about talking about why you felt that way?Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:55 pmI just felt like doing that.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:37 pmSure.Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:35 pmI don't want to explain reads that I'm not very serious about.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:07 pmThere mustn’t be much to it, the thread is still a baby. There’s little effort needed here, lad. Why don’t you feel like it?![]()
How about instead of explaining the read itself, you talk about why you made the post.
>Hiding behind off-radar and focusing his attacks on an already suspected target. Similar to the first point.
LC = bad for me. It's only one post. A bit too early to tell if this is the direction that LC is going for the day with. Because of those 2 things, I'm not married to this read, but this is how I feel right now.
And LC?Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:30 pm>Trying to go with the grainLong Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:58 pmOk how about talking about why you felt that way?Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:55 pmI just felt like doing that.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:37 pmSure.Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:35 pmI don't want to explain reads that I'm not very serious about.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:07 pmThere mustn’t be much to it, the thread is still a baby. There’s little effort needed here, lad. Why don’t you feel like it?![]()
How about instead of explaining the read itself, you talk about why you made the post.
>Hiding behind off-radar and focusing his attacks on an already suspected target. Similar to the first point.
LC = bad for me. It's only one post. A bit too early to tell if this is the direction that LC is going for the day with. Because of those 2 things, I'm not married to this read, but this is how I feel right now.
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:13 amI can't see this image.Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:09 amDragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:08 amDetriot should have 100% won that game. I'm more infuriated by the Browns and Seahawks game though. Browns had every chance to win the game but they blew it.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:35 pm I just got massively screwed by J. Williams in the DET-GBP game sliding on his ass on purpose in front of the end zone to let Crosby kick a field goal. I didn't lose anything, but damn. What could have been.
That said, the officiating sucked in favor of GBP. Two face mask penalties on Flowers? Guy has never had one and shouldn't have had either tonight.
In that game, the dogs lost. Let it not be so here.![]()
Mostly. Yeah.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:12 amAre you trying to say that all I've been doing is just say that the accusations against me are fake and bad?Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:08 amElaborate. Elucidate.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:04 amBecause I believe that I am. It should help us find a baddie. I have provided a solution. Move on from it and focus on those that tried coming after me. But you guys refuse to do that so what the hell am I supposed to do? That tizzy I created provided a lot of discussions that could be used for reads which is how my scum reads on LC and Jay came to fruition.
I dunno. Create #content.
Anything but what you're doing would be great.
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