Dogs vs. Cats [END]

[novaselinenever]

I will say that my initial instinct coming into this Day 2 was to vote again for Dragomir. I still have grievances there.

Why?

Because I still have grievances there. Damn can't you read?

What are those grievances? I'm interested. I had earlier grievances with his initial entrance and the stubbornness that led to you activated my trap card moment, but I've been reconsidering that since he opened up with his LC suspicion. There is also Rej's handling of him and his bold defense of Rej that makes him look good.

Dragomir's been basically the focal point of D1 and he didn't even get lynched lol

@Dom What's your beef with Drago?

What are you trying to do here?

Doing Dom. Feels like he's milking his Drago stuff, majority of his D1 is giving shit to Dragomir mostly about being stubborn and not sharing his toughts.

[Epignosis]

I don't think Epi's case on Jay holds much water at all. Nothing that was pointed out is outside of Jay's town play. It's still a mild town tick for Epi though. I still think Jay is town.

I largely agree. I think it just means that Jay's analysis isn't fool proof.

Jay is allowed to be wrong if he is town. He'll corner the wolves and squeeze them out eventually.

Never knew Mac to suck Jay's dictionary so hard.

[Dom]

Jay-- you give people virtually no time to think or respond. I do not sit at the computer and eagerly await your response. I play Star Wars Battlefront 2.

Take your time then and actually answer the things I have said. You've been exposed to two posts now with my concern, and instead of talking about them you've given me a shrug emoji and a gaslight.

You've spent all of your hunting energy on Dragomir and Rej. I would estimate the distribution between those two to be about 90-10. I am not convinced that you were interested in getting to the bottom of Dragomir's alignment, and instead you were intent to bury him under the mass of pressure he took early in the game. That continues now. I have very little clue where you stand on anyone in this game other than Dragomir.

Address this however you may, and I will give you time to do so.

Moving on.

I don't really know what you want me to respond to-- and that's what I take issue with.

And don't tell me I'm gaslighting. I've literally accused you of nothing.

[MacDougall]

Never mind I think Nova is probably town too here.

This is just all town on town hate imo. I want new voices. [mention]speedchuck[/mention] [mention]sprityo[/mention] [mention]nutella[/mention] [mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] [mention]Fayt[/mention] [mention]Michelle[/mention] [mention]Long Con[/mention] can you please read Epi's Jay hate wall and comment.

[Dom]

I will say that my initial instinct coming into this Day 2 was to vote again for Dragomir. I still have grievances there.

Why?

Because I still have grievances there. Damn can't you read?

What are those grievances? I'm interested. I had earlier grievances with his initial entrance and the stubbornness that led to you activated my trap card moment, but I've been reconsidering that since he opened up with his LC suspicion. There is also Rej's handling of him and his bold defense of Rej that makes him look good.

Dragomir's been basically the focal point of D1 and he didn't even get lynched lol

@Dom What's your beef with Drago?

What are you trying to do here?

Doing Dom. Feels like he's milking his Drago stuff, majority of his D1 is giving shit to Dragomir mostly about being stubborn and not sharing his toughts.

What does that mean?

[Epignosis]

I think JJJ is the way to go. I do not find him civilian at all.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jay-- you give people virtually no time to think or respond. I do not sit at the computer and eagerly await your response. I play Star Wars Battlefront 2.

Take your time then and actually answer the things I have said. You've been exposed to two posts now with my concern, and instead of talking about them you've given me a shrug emoji and a gaslight.

You've spent all of your hunting energy on Dragomir and Rej. I would estimate the distribution between those two to be about 90-10. I am not convinced that you were interested in getting to the bottom of Dragomir's alignment, and instead you were intent to bury him under the mass of pressure he took early in the game. That continues now. I have very little clue where you stand on anyone in this game other than Dragomir.

Address this however you may, and I will give you time to do so.

Moving on.

I don't really know what you want me to respond to-- and that's what I take issue with.

And don't tell me I'm gaslighting. I've literally accused you of nothing.

It's... right there in the post? I just said it? Right there!

Also:

Notice that Jay never asked me to clarify a damn thing. No elucidiation necessary with me.

Why did he afford Fayt and Dragomir those luxuries?

That's an accusation. Gaslighting.

[MacDougall]

I don't think Epi's case on Jay holds much water at all. Nothing that was pointed out is outside of Jay's town play. It's still a mild town tick for Epi though. I still think Jay is town.

I largely agree. I think it just means that Jay's analysis isn't fool proof.

Jay is allowed to be wrong if he is town. He'll corner the wolves and squeeze them out eventually.

Never knew Mac to suck Jay's dictionary so hard.

I am trying something new as opposed to the obligatory Jay vs. Mac shit fight that eventually ends after going nowhere. You should try it. I wanna see if just working with Jay is productive.

[MacDougall]

I will say that my initial instinct coming into this Day 2 was to vote again for Dragomir. I still have grievances there.

Why?

Because I still have grievances there. Damn can't you read?

What are those grievances? I'm interested. I had earlier grievances with his initial entrance and the stubbornness that led to you activated my trap card moment, but I've been reconsidering that since he opened up with his LC suspicion. There is also Rej's handling of him and his bold defense of Rej that makes him look good.

Dragomir's been basically the focal point of D1 and he didn't even get lynched lol

@Dom What's your beef with Drago?

What are you trying to do here?

Doing Dom. Feels like he's milking his Drago stuff, majority of his D1 is giving shit to Dragomir mostly about being stubborn and not sharing his toughts.

I see. This is fair. Keep doing that.

[Epignosis]

I don't think Epi's case on Jay holds much water at all. Nothing that was pointed out is outside of Jay's town play. It's still a mild town tick for Epi though. I still think Jay is town.

I largely agree. I think it just means that Jay's analysis isn't fool proof.

Jay is allowed to be wrong if he is town. He'll corner the wolves and squeeze them out eventually.

Never knew Mac to suck Jay's dictionary so hard.

I am trying something new as opposed to the obligatory Jay vs. Mac shit fight that eventually ends after going nowhere. You should try it. I wanna see if just working with Jay is productive.

Or I can look at what JJJ as done and judge is as shit. As I have done.

[novaselinenever]

Don't love nova ignoring my entire day one post history where I very clearly say what my beef with Drago is.

I iso'd you. You spent most of that day giving him shit for being stubborn and refusing to comply with giving reads. It doesn't feel like there is much else, you were quoting the posts were he was messing around that way with some bullshit "this is why I suspect Drago". There is no progression, nothing else. Feels like you just jumped on the bandwagon, and you've been milking it to have a scum read to navigate the game through.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Epignosis is probably a dog. I am juggling around thoughts to the contrary in my brain, and the one that I find recurring is "Epi is cranky about last game and wants to mislynch me this time", which is

I'm not surprised he suspects me given the content in discussion, and I don't find it inauthentic.

[Epignosis]

Facts:

JJJ gave Rej a bunch of shit. Did not vote there.
JJJ voted LC, whom he called good that same Day.

What else am I supposed to do with this?

[MacDougall]

I don't think Epi's case on Jay holds much water at all. Nothing that was pointed out is outside of Jay's town play. It's still a mild town tick for Epi though. I still think Jay is town.

I largely agree. I think it just means that Jay's analysis isn't fool proof.

Jay is allowed to be wrong if he is town. He'll corner the wolves and squeeze them out eventually.

Never knew Mac to suck Jay's dictionary so hard.

I am trying something new as opposed to the obligatory Jay vs. Mac shit fight that eventually ends after going nowhere. You should try it. I wanna see if just working with Jay is productive.

Or I can look at what JJJ as done and judge is as shit. As I have done.

Okay fair deuce. I would suggest that you package it in a palatable manner rather than just engaging him and only him please. You two just shouting at each other just creates content nobody will read so if you are correct you won't get him lynched.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

That's essentially what I am trying to say re: Dom, nova.

[mention]Dom[/mention], if you don't know what I want from you, then try answering nova instead. Basically the same thing.

[novaselinenever]

I will say that my initial instinct coming into this Day 2 was to vote again for Dragomir. I still have grievances there.

Why?

Because I still have grievances there. Damn can't you read?

What are those grievances? I'm interested. I had earlier grievances with his initial entrance and the stubbornness that led to you activated my trap card moment, but I've been reconsidering that since he opened up with his LC suspicion. There is also Rej's handling of him and his bold defense of Rej that makes him look good.

Dragomir's been basically the focal point of D1 and he didn't even get lynched lol

@Dom What's your beef with Drago?

What are you trying to do here?

Doing Dom. Feels like he's milking his Drago stuff, majority of his D1 is giving shit to Dragomir mostly about being stubborn and not sharing his toughts.

What does that mean?

Seeing what you're all about.

[MacDougall]

Facts:

JJJ gave Rej a bunch of shit. Did not vote there.
JJJ voted LC, whom he called good that same Day.

What else am I supposed to do with this?

So you are suspicious of Jay because he is wrong?

Firstly, what if LC is also a cat?

But I'll unpack this for a second. In this scenario you propose Jay to be Rej's teammate and unwilling to bus him. Would it not stand to reason that if he was unwilling to bus him that he would be willing to defend him? Did he defend him? If you can show me evidence of Jay trying to manipulate others into rescinding their read on Rej I'll listen more.

Personally I think the chances are rather high that we had two cat wagons up on day 1.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Facts:

JJJ gave Rej a bunch of shit. Did not vote there.
JJJ voted LC, whom he called good that same Day.

What else am I supposed to do with this?

Well this is bullshit. How about think critically? Consider more than one possibility? What the hell is this question?

[Epignosis]

Epignosis is probably a dog. I am juggling around thoughts to the contrary in my brain, and the one that I find recurring is "Epi is cranky about last game and wants to mislynch me this time", which is

I'm not surprised he suspects me given the content in discussion, and I don't find it inauthentic.

That assumes that I think about you from one game to another.

I can assure you that I don't.

[novaselinenever]

Nova-- what's up with you? Who do you want to lynch who isn't named Jay?

I'd lynch you.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Epignosis is probably a dog. I am juggling around thoughts to the contrary in my brain, and the one that I find recurring is "Epi is cranky about last game and wants to mislynch me this time", which is

I'm not surprised he suspects me given the content in discussion, and I don't find it inauthentic.

That assumes that I think about you from one game to another.

I can assure you that I don't.

I believe you. Hence the emoji.

[Epignosis]

JJJ is bad. I assure it.

[novaselinenever]

Speedchuck's someone who I've also been mulling over. His Drago stuff is also in the same veins as Dom, he was shadowing people there and the progression of off him was a little too easy. Also I'm not sure how he ended up on Rej. There was no real conviction behind it or a push at all

[novaselinenever]

I have no reason to not suspect Dragomir as a result of the rej lynch. Don't see why that's nuts.

What's your take on his bold defense of Rej, and the latter's handling of him?

[Epignosis]

Speedchuck's someone who I've also been mulling over. His Drago stuff is also in the same veins as Dom, he was shadowing people there and the progression of off him was a little too easy. Also I'm not sure how he ended up on Rej. There was no real conviction behind it or a push at all

I have a suspicion of speedchuck also.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

TonyStarkPrime is a big civilian read of mine. After Persona 5, the difference cannot be greater. Almost literally. [mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention], I very much look forward to your input when you have the time. No worries, I understand life and stuff.

[MacDougall]

Agreed with concern about Rej take. Potential TMI on Dragomir.

Why? What about it strikes as TMI?

I'll answer for him. Firstly, you have been actually pretty scummy. So for Rej to defend you is TMI. Rej has no reason to feel like you have been civvy enough to question the people casing him.

Rej is taking the opportunity to gain your trust by dismissing the case as incredulous, which is invariably how you would feel as a civ. In the event of a civilian flip of you he is distanced from the case making of a bad lynch, which is where people first look for wolves (even though it's usually never that simple).

Now, onto Fayt, who we have common ground on.

This post smells like a litter box. Paints quite a big picture of events. "Actually pretty scummy"? Mac is purring like a devil

Just looking at TH's posts and this one stands out. If I wasn't me I'd be pretty convinced that I killed him for this.

But given I am in fact a dog ... perhaps this kill was made in the hopes of somebody breadcrumbing that.

Turnip Head had a pretty strong town read on Dragomir. I am want to think that a wolf team that has Dragomir in it that just lost a member would not kill someone who had an incorrect scum read on me and was town reading Dragomir.

I also think that TH wasn't proving to be much of a threat. I don't see how a scum team that has players unfamiliar with him would choose him as a kill.

It just seems like a pure POE shot given how good TH looked in light of the Rej flip.

I kinda found it strange how Jay decided to leak that he had an interaction analysis with Rej/TH. Almost seems like Jay was trying to make us think he didn't know TH was gonna get the bullet. [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] why did you post the TH/Rej interaction analysis?

[Dom]

Jay-- you give people virtually no time to think or respond. I do not sit at the computer and eagerly await your response. I play Star Wars Battlefront 2.

Take your time then and actually answer the things I have said. You've been exposed to two posts now with my concern, and instead of talking about them you've given me a shrug emoji and a gaslight.

You've spent all of your hunting energy on Dragomir and Rej. I would estimate the distribution between those two to be about 90-10. I am not convinced that you were interested in getting to the bottom of Dragomir's alignment, and instead you were intent to bury him under the mass of pressure he took early in the game. That continues now. I have very little clue where you stand on anyone in this game other than Dragomir.

Address this however you may, and I will give you time to do so.

Moving on.

I don't really know what you want me to respond to-- and that's what I take issue with.

And don't tell me I'm gaslighting. I've literally accused you of nothing.

It's... right there in the post? I just said it? Right there!

Also:

Notice that Jay never asked me to clarify a damn thing. No elucidiation necessary with me.

Why did he afford Fayt and Dragomir those luxuries?

That's an accusation. Gaslighting.

I didn't accuse you of shit. I am questioning you in the way I question literally everyone. If you don't like it, maybe you should post less and produce less content to question.

Don't love nova ignoring my entire day one post history where I very clearly say what my beef with Drago is.

I iso'd you. You spent most of that day giving him shit for being stubborn and refusing to comply with giving reads. It doesn't feel like there is much else, you were quoting the posts were he was messing around that way with some bullshit "this is why I suspect Drago". There is no progression, nothing else. Feels like you just jumped on the bandwagon, and you've been milking it to have a scum read to navigate the game through.

Ah. I misunderstood what you meant by "Doing Dom".

Sure. I've been going hard after Dragomir. Does that seem out of the ordinary to you? Where do you stand on it? Here's where I'm at:

Drago was my top suspect during Day 1. Rej's lack of vote on him and the way the EoD went down do not lead me to change that belief. I'm open to other ideas, but I see no reason why I should be crucified over being consistent and having any semblance of logic to my thoughts. Rej did not vote for him. That does not make me feel great about him.


Also-- is nutella civ?

That's essentially what I am trying to say re: Dom, nova.

Dom, if you don't know what I want from you, then try answering nova instead. Basically the same thing.

I am answering nova, and I don't need to take orders from you, k?

[MacDougall]

Interactions: Rej and Turnip Head -- he's dead but whatever here you go

Rej

Spoiler: show

I am torn between a pressure vote on Michelle/Sprityo and solidifying the lynch on Drago. But if I won't like the flip I will pretty much feel bad.
Another option is voting Turnip Head because I feel they haven't given enough reads this DP to read them back properly.
Turnip do you have some input on others? Votes have been moved to Speedchuck for example. I didn't like how he voted me so I question @speedchuck if his vote on me is locked?


okay addition after Michelles read on me:
@Michelle I would always @ you, sadly we haven't played much games fully together, I often leave in the early stages. xD
I need more reads from you tho, and I sadly know nothing about your scumplay I feel.

This came after TH had already called Rej a cat. Rej never acknowledged that, not even here when he griped about TH's lack of reads. This looks like a spam read forced onto a low poster.

~~~

Turnip Head

Spoiler: show

Drago is town

Rej is cat. "I don't understand the case" is scumtell sometimes

Two firsts. Turnip Head's first reads, and the first person to beef with Rej over this. I doubt TH, as Rej's teammate, decides he's going to do nothing for a while and then randomly drop in and crap on his head.

~~~

Conclusion: I doubt Turnip Head is a cat.

What's the point of posting this Jay?

[Dom]

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] that's a good catch with the TH/Rej analysis.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Speedchuck's someone who I've also been mulling over. His Drago stuff is also in the same veins as Dom, he was shadowing people there and the progression of off him was a little too easy. Also I'm not sure how he ended up on Rej. There was no real conviction behind it or a push at all

speedchuck is an interesting case. His vote was on Rej for a decent while I believe, so take that as you will. I talked with him about this a bit:

He's banking all of his analysis on the one Persona game, which is fallacious as heck. "JJJ isn't doing things exactly like he did in P5" is not a case, it's a justification.

I agree that it's fallacious, though that's something I am thinking about. Rej has only played one game with me, and it was that one. So it makes some sense that he'd be inclined to assess me on that basis.

I saw that he'd played a couple other games, but didn't notice specifically that.

Small point in his favor. Someone approaching a game in a different way doesn't mean much unless there's a scum motive for the new approach, but Rej might not read that way

I'd given him some avenue to walk away from that vote. He didn't take it. I will grant though that speedchuck's language here is a bit timid; he's covering the bases regardless of the vote. I'll leave him to say whatever.

My initial impression was positive. I can see alternative worlds.

[MacDougall]

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] I think that Jay is just about the only person who WOULD kill TH in that slot based on how TH was playing. I think you may be right about him after all.

[Epignosis]

TonyStarkPrime is a big civilian read of mine. After Persona 5, the difference cannot be greater. Almost literally. TonyStarkPrime, I very much look forward to your input when you have the time. No worries, I understand life and stuff.

Alternative wagons are available, but they're underwhelming by definition. I have these people:

Fayt
sprityo
TSP

I don't feel any confidence calling them civilians. They also have < 5 posts, so.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine can go ahead and answer my beefs.

At this rate I am frankly inclined to lynch a low poster. I've the most active suspicion of Fayt among them. I hate lynching newcomers on Day 1; I'll do what I think is best though. I feel no obligation to keep sprityo or TSP alive either.

Glad to see you spiraling out of control.

[Dom]

Speedchuck's someone who I've also been mulling over. His Drago stuff is also in the same veins as Dom, he was shadowing people there and the progression of off him was a little too easy. Also I'm not sure how he ended up on Rej. There was no real conviction behind it or a push at all

Speedcheck is someone I was suspecting in a different game and I tend to get confused when I start two gays at the same time. I need to look back at this game and see if any wires crossed, etc.

I have no reason to not suspect Dragomir as a result of the rej lynch. Don't see why that's nuts.

What's your take on his bold defense of Rej, and the latter's handling of him?

I think it's compatible with teammates.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I kinda found it strange how Jay decided to leak that he had an interaction analysis with Rej/TH. Almost seems like Jay was trying to make us think he didn't know TH was gonna get the bullet. @JaggedJimmyJay why did you post the TH/Rej interaction analysis?

Because I had it. I had them all. If I have game-related shit I might as well share it. I play with my hand face up.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Glad to see you spiraling out of control.

None of that means anything to me. TSP is a civilian read.

[MacDougall]

I kinda found it strange how Jay decided to leak that he had an interaction analysis with Rej/TH. Almost seems like Jay was trying to make us think he didn't know TH was gonna get the bullet. @JaggedJimmyJay why did you post the TH/Rej interaction analysis?

Because I had it. I had them all. If I have game-related shit I might as well share it. I play with my hand face up.

You have posted a lot of interaction analysis's and I can't recall you ever posting one that was flipped already.

Tell me one benefit that the game has received from you posting that? Give me one justification beyond "because I had it".

[MacDougall]

Speedchuck's someone who I've also been mulling over. His Drago stuff is also in the same veins as Dom, he was shadowing people there and the progression of off him was a little too easy. Also I'm not sure how he ended up on Rej. There was no real conviction behind it or a push at all

Speedcheck is someone I was suspecting in a different game and I tend to get confused when I start two gays at the same time. I need to look back at this game and see if any wires crossed, etc.

I have no reason to not suspect Dragomir as a result of the rej lynch. Don't see why that's nuts.

What's your take on his bold defense of Rej, and the latter's handling of him?

I think it's compatible with teammates.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Epignosis I think that Jay is just about the only person who WOULD kill TH in that slot based on how TH was playing. I think you may be right about him after all.

I don't kill Turnip Head in his first game back here in 900 years either. Believe me or don't, I don't care. My first priority is always the website, and Turnip Head is a major part of it.

[Epignosis]

Dragomir has my vote currently.

[Epignosis]

@Epignosis I think that Jay is just about the only person who WOULD kill TH in that slot based on how TH was playing. I think you may be right about him after all.

I don't kill Turnip Head in his first game back here in 900 years either. Believe me or don't, I don't care. My first priority is always the website, and Turnip Head is a major part of it.

I'm glad to hear you say that. I believe that.

[Dom]

speedchuck, why Rej?

Because not Dragomir. Dragomir's current play feels scummy, but doesn't make much sense as scumplay on further reflection.

I buy Dragomir's response to pressure better than Rej's. Rej has been on edge since the first time he was prodded.

@Rej what is your absolute favorite thing ever about sprityo in this here game thread?

Gimme a break I cant ISO posts on mobile, can I?

Felt like a disproportionate reaction, hardly worth noting at the time. But it's escalated to the point that he has a vote on you, and that read doesn't seem genuine. He's banking all of his analysis on the one Persona game, which is fallacious as heck. "JJJ isn't doing things exactly like he did in P5" is not a case, it's a justification.

Speedchucks evolution seems well marked here. In fact, he never really jumps on the drago train very hard. Nova, I'm not sure your analysis is fully there.

[MacDougall]

@Epignosis I think that Jay is just about the only person who WOULD kill TH in that slot based on how TH was playing. I think you may be right about him after all.

I don't kill Turnip Head in his first game back here in 900 years either. Believe me or don't, I don't care. My first priority is always the website, and Turnip Head is a major part of it.

Do you agree with the notion that TH wasn't playing in such a way to attract a kill from a team comprised of people unfamiliar with him? If they wanted to clear the POE of people who looked good from the Rej lynch I would imagine that I would be a more optimal kill than TH because I have been more present and have a more forceful thread character. Would you agree with that sentiment?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I kinda found it strange how Jay decided to leak that he had an interaction analysis with Rej/TH. Almost seems like Jay was trying to make us think he didn't know TH was gonna get the bullet. @JaggedJimmyJay why did you post the TH/Rej interaction analysis?

Because I had it. I had them all. If I have game-related shit I might as well share it. I play with my hand face up.

You have posted a lot of interaction analysis's and I can't recall you ever posting one that was flipped already.

Tell me one benefit that the game has received from you posting that? Give me one justification beyond "because I had it".

I have hardly ever done them during a locked night phase. I am not sure I ever have.

I literally have no idea what the benefit might be. People are creative, and I put it out there so that if for whatever reason it could be useful to someone, it would be available. The alternative is to throw it in the trash, which is the only choice even more likely to provide no benefit to anyone.

[MacDougall]

Dragomir has my vote currently.

Why would Dragomir kill someone advocating for him?

[Dom]

Speedchuck's someone who I've also been mulling over. His Drago stuff is also in the same veins as Dom, he was shadowing people there and the progression of off him was a little too easy. Also I'm not sure how he ended up on Rej. There was no real conviction behind it or a push at all

Speedcheck is someone I was suspecting in a different game and I tend to get confused when I start two gays at the same time. I need to look back at this game and see if any wires crossed, etc.

I have no reason to not suspect Dragomir as a result of the rej lynch. Don't see why that's nuts.

What's your take on his bold defense of Rej, and the latter's handling of him?

I think it's compatible with teammates.

[Dom]

Dragomir has my vote currently.

Why would Dragomir kill someone advocating for him?

You should try the wine in front of you.

[Dom]

Is Mac flirting with me? Is this the moment where Mac and I finally get along?

[Epignosis]

Dragomir has my vote currently.

Why would Dragomir kill someone advocating for him?

People do stupid shit.

[MacDougall]

I kinda found it strange how Jay decided to leak that he had an interaction analysis with Rej/TH. Almost seems like Jay was trying to make us think he didn't know TH was gonna get the bullet. @JaggedJimmyJay why did you post the TH/Rej interaction analysis?

Because I had it. I had them all. If I have game-related shit I might as well share it. I play with my hand face up.

You have posted a lot of interaction analysis's and I can't recall you ever posting one that was flipped already.

Tell me one benefit that the game has received from you posting that? Give me one justification beyond "because I had it".

I have hardly ever done them during a locked night phase. I am not sure I ever have.

I literally have no idea what the benefit might be. People are creative, and I put it out there so that if for whatever reason it could be useful to someone, it would be available. The alternative is to throw it in the trash, which is the only choice even more likely to provide no benefit to anyone.

Well the thing is that I can see a benefit to you. Someone reads it and goes "as if Jay would have written that if he knew TH was gonna get shot". So like the only benefit I can see is to you being town read. Yet you won't admit that's why you did it. If you had have just been "I wrote it there and thought by posting it people would town read me" I'd be inclined to believe you because I think that it's not beneath your town self to do things like that. But now you're afraid to say that...