The Syndicate

@Hosts: Do tooltips on images count as words in your post (for example, if I use this smiley and you put your mouse over it and it says "big grin" can Rumpel steal my vote if the secret word happens to be big or grin?)

I figure we should get clarification on this because I have not been considering smileys as words.

Linki: I hope everything is okay for you Roxy! We had big storms here earlier that were nasty!

I am likely to just post a smiley when I vote. To completely remove any chance of Rumpel stealing my vote.

Queran Gloomsoul wrote:That first quote, I was actually telling the truth, Gobnait did misread.

Right, which is why I also mentioned this might have been his way of trying to build a case against you based on thread evidence, but also try to get his info (if he had any by that point) into the thread.

I wanted to pull some of Gobnait's quotes regarding Queran to illustrate why I think Queran is a good lynch option for catching a big bad baddie or wicked one.

Original quote here.

Gobnait Gingeruite wrote:...snip to save space...

Now hooooooooooooold up! You, Queran Gloomsould, Dweller in the Deep, Sunderer of Ships, Weaver of Lies, are, well, lying! I never questioned the fact that Bronwyn (may her gypsy feet ever dance on soft grass) asked Caillic about his vote! That she certainly did, as you astutely pointed out in quoting her. What I said was that Bronwyn stated that she believed Ameerah to be bad, or at least highly suspicious. The bit of the quote (which in my original post was in a larger paragraph) is here:

Bronwyn Mightyfeet wrote: I also noticed s/he did not respond to the vote placed for her earlier, giving us her side of the story. In gypsy land the innocent always defend themselves. As a member of the Table of Peace I look toward Caillic Lustroushair for a vote, unless the votes come in for me or do not come in before i have to vote from the two missing Table of Happiness voters.

The bolded is where she says it, and the bit after the bolded is where she says she'll vote Caillic anyway, despite the fact that she thinks he voted for someone she's suspicious of. Civvie behavior? I think not!

The fact that you pulled the wrong quotes in your defense so that you could misinterpret my argument makes me only more certain of your evil, and more certain that my argument was right. Bronwyn's unhesitating agreement with you, despite her knowing what she said, makes me nearly certain she is evil too.

Even disregarding the style of your posts (which I'm willing to throw out. As I admitted in my original case, it doesn't mean a thing by itself, and Shand makes a good point about why it should be disregarded), I believe we have found 2 baddies in you and Bronwyn. You, Dweller of Deep Waters, Tentacular Spinner of Lies, shall receive my vote today.

The first quote I pulled is one where twice Gobnait refers to Queran as a liar. The first time in the post it appears as if he's referring to how Queran twisted words of others, but if he had checked Queran by this point (Night 1) then this may have been a way for him to try to point out that he knows Queran lied.

Another post worth highlighting:

Gobnait Gingeruite wrote:

Queran Gloomsoul wrote:Wait, aren't you Carmen? Are we doing third person all of a sudden?

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Linki - WIFOM always gets on my nerves, not because of those who use it, but just in general the sort of infinite possibilities of bluffs, double bluffs, tripple bluffs etc ad nauseum. As it stands I have 3-4 really locked in suspects, and those would be in no particular order Mainchin, Carmen, Finnian, and Gobnait

Still 11.

Yeah Carmen can't be the word, it's a proper name.

And I was feeling really good about our candidates until this post. I'm certainly a civ, and I have been reading Mainchin as very civ as well. This worries me that neither Carmen or Finnian is on Queran's (evil) team. That doesn't stop them from being SKs or on the other team though, so I guess it's ok.

All things considered, I'm still ok with choosing either of them, but could we please save a bunch of time and just lynch Queran? Are people really still reading our ongoing debate as civ-civ? I just don't see how it's possible, we've been at each other's throats now for going on 3 days. No one else sees his posts as un-genuine?

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Original quote for reference here

Gobnait Gingeruite wrote:...also snipped to save space...

That's my case. I think his Day 2 posts are the most useful of what I have, besides his voting record. I guess you'll have to decide for yourselves who is telling the truth. If you want me to respond to anything let me know.

It seems Queran wants to win this little battle between us. If he does, at least please lynch him after me. I would be really depressed if he went for so long being so obviously evil and won.

These three quotes alone are enough to make me feel pretty certain that Gobnait checked Queran at some point (I think possibly as early as Night 1) and found that Queran lied.

Gobnait also maintained a suspicion of Carmen off and on during the game--he may have checked her too which is why he felt comfortable voting for her in place of Queran when few wanted to follow his Queran case.

Another thought--Gobnait was the Princess and the Pea, meaning he was the lie detector. And he was pretty vehement that Queran was bad. I don't think we should discount that.

I still do not feel good about Carmen and do not feel she is civvie, but knowing who Gobnait was, I think we should consider his posts carefully.

I am fine with only discussing at night and just voting during the day. We have to find some way to prevail over the rumpled one.

Grimm's is the best because the original stories could be really dark and are all pretty darn awesome.

RIP Gob.

So Carmen survived again?

Well, I have been suspicious of Carmen for days, but like others have pointed out, the sheer number of people voting her is a little worrisome. If she had teammates would there have been more defense of her by now?

I have to remind myself that she was up for a lynch with more than enough votes once already and survived while a civvie took a hit in her place (Bac), then the next lynch craftilly got shifted away from her in favor of another (Finnian) but resulted in the death of another civvie (Mainchin). Followed by another day of talking about Carmen but subsequently voting another civvie (again Finnian) leading to his demise.

So while a lot of votes for her makes me nervous, maybe her teammates have decided she can't be saved today so they're just voting for her to blend in?

Gonna stick with my primary suspicion and *Vote Carmen* again and hope we aren't being bamboozled.

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:

Grutfud Orangesprite wrote:

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:I'm going to try not to quote today, since we don't know if magic words count when used in quotes, but I will say this to Carmen. Thank you, I do understand what you're saying about not wanting to reveal who you are in rl. But I have to say, a simple 'I did not role hint' would have been nice. And I read back, you had ample opportunity to say that at some point.

This is not good.

Hi. can you expand a little on what you are getting at with Carmen? Are you suggesting you have reason to believe she is not who she says claimed/didn't claim she is? And, from my read, it didn't appear she was claiming Cinderella at all if that is what you were thinking. Was it?

If you just recently had to read the entire thread, then I will cut you some slack there. Are you one of the replacements?

If not, I wonder how you missed all the talk on Carmen. Starting with Bronwyn and someone else (forgot who) pointing out that she made a quick catch on day 1, regarding someone who voted for someone not at the correct table, but then acted like she wasn't involved in the game at all, couldn't keep up, etc. It was pointed out because most everyone was still having trouble just remembering all the names, let alone which table to vote for.

However, she managed to continue sounding sufficiently confused during the next day and night, enough to create doubt in a few players. At least 2 of us commented that she sounded like she could be new. I noticed what could have been role hints, not claims, and posted as much as I could about them, to get attention to it and get feedback from other players. I don't want to lynch someone who may be new, and trying to be found by her prince, but at the same time, I don't want to allow a baddie to hoodwink anyone.

She survived 2 lynches, and although, a few people made posts about it being a deflection of some kind, it could very easily have been Rumpel's team behind that.

Now, her posts suddenly sound like a different person.

This very nicely sums up my thoughts about Carmen.

So Carmen has pretty much said that wasn't a role hint at all now that she's been pressed about that? Considering the "role hint" was the only reason I backed off her yesterday, that puts her right back up there on my suspicion list.

Maybe she found people reading into that humorous, but letting us operate under the incorrect assumption isn't very helpful in the search for evil among us.

RIPIYWG Bac and Etain. I was feeling very good about Bac and fear we lost a hero. Etain I was waffling on.

My favorite character would be the youngest brother, called Simpleton, in The Golden Goose. He's honest, and kind, and gets involved in a very humorous situation.

RIP Finnian. Guess the mystery of you is now solved.

I'm choosing characters because many of my beloved books I truly love because of the characters in them.

I have a busy day today so I need to go ahead and vote now. While Finnian may be a mystery to me, there's no doubt he survived a lynch and a civvie died in his place. And not voting in lynches is not civvie behavior.

*Votes Finnian*

Also, I'm beginning to get little pings from Rhinfrew. I feel like his posts are filled with lots of jokes and genie references, like he's trying to distract through humor? I am mentioning it now since it crossed my mind, but I need to do a more thorough read of his posts when I have time later.

Bac Wunderelin wrote:OK, I am willing to take that last post in mind, Ameerah.

OK, maybe I am wrong. I will not vote for you today then. Perhaps if more light were shed on this situation, perhaps we could actually see each other for once, and what better time for than than when there is no night.

Tell me, do you have any theories on why there was no night? And what do YOU think of Finian, Queran, Gob, et al?

My best guess as to why we're having back-to-back days is due to a role-related event. With there being so many secrets in this game, that's what I'm thinking.

I feel like Finnian is an enigma. Not voting is really not civvie behavior and coupled with his attitude about the voting, I haven't gotten good vibes. But on the flipside of things, I'd think if he had evil companions, they'd be encouraging him to vote so as to not draw so much attention to himself. Granted, maybe he has no active night power, or maybe there are secrets involved. So yeah, Finnian is a puzzle to me.

Queran has been sharing a lot of similar thoughts to me. So part of me wants to trust her (him?). Then there's Gobnait. The two of them have been at each other's throats since pretty early on. After reading Gobnait's posts on back on Day 3, I was leaning civvie for him. But I'm not sure.

And I know you didn't ask me about Carmen, but I wanted to re-explain my hesitation about her. The reason many chose to give her a pass during the last day phase is because of her supposed role hints. But we don't know for sure that those were role hints. Maybe it was just a coincidence. I still can't let go the fact that she survived the Day 3 lynch and we haven't come up with a civvie explanation for why. That being said, it would royally suck if we lynch her and found out those were real role hints. So yeah...ugh.

I didn't make up things about you. I very clearly said in that original post that I was posting my thoughts as they came to me from reading. I was clearly wrong, and I dropped it.

You are wrong here. But maybe the only way you'll be convinced is if you get me lynched. Just trust me when I say, if that happens, you will realize why I'm ripping my hair out.

Bac Wunderelin wrote:

Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:

Shand Azureye wrote:I apologize for not participating much today; work has been brutal, and I haven't been able to give the game as much time as it deserves. I've read through and enjoyed the eloquent, well-thought out recent posts. Unfortunately, and this could also have to do with my shattered confidence -- I really believed Jorhan would flip bad -- I'm still not getting any strong pings. What also makes my hands a bit shaky as I move it towards the vote button is Bac's idea that there may be another secret baddie team lurking. If this is correct, then our situation looks very bleak indeed, and we most certainly need to choose our target wisely today.

Right now, I'm fairly certain that Gobnait is a townie (else, he's the best baddie I have ever played against), and I'm feeling good about Bac as well. Despite the Jorhan debacle, I still feel uneasy about Queran, but that may just be because of his style. His eloquence and verbosity I appreciate more than anyone else's in the game, and at the same time, it's these same qualities that also make me a bit apprehensive about his agenda. I certainly don't have anything concrete against him though, and while I don't feel comfortable voting for him today, my eyes are ever set on him.

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:Mainchin - Table switcher. First to propose the idea that there is at least one mafia at each table and that the hosts may have decreed that. Says he will likely randomize Day 1, then ultimately decides to vote for a low poster, Gaerwen. He defends Laine here when Laine began taking heat for his posts and vote Day 1. He has a couple of posts defending Gobnait (maybe buddying up to him??). And I was somewhat bothered by his post here. At the end he says he will try to find some time to read back and form some opinions of his own, but barring that will vote for "the most satisfactory argument from my esteemed fellow creatures." To me this reads like a nice little set-up for being able to place the blame on someone else's case if a civvie gets lynched again.

Thank you for the synopses Ameerah, that helped me a lot. I've my eyes on all the three players you mention (Mainchin, Laine, and Carmen). Of the three, I find Mainchin the most interesting at this point, especially coupled with the point that Rhinfrew brought up earlier. Mainchin voted for Miyuki at a point when Jorhan was all but sure to be lynched. This could be a simple baddie tactic to stay out of trouble, knowing (as only a baddie can know) that the town would come after the Jorhan-voters when, eventually, it would be revealed that Jorhan was good. This is a minor ping, however, and truth be told, I'm almost as lost today as I was on day 1. I do have to vote soon because I don't know if I will be able to get on the internet before the poll closes. I will give it another hour or so, and hopefully a second read will bring something to my attention that I might have missed in my first. Failing that, I'm leaning towards a Mainchin vote today.

I have never ever voted for Myuki!

I found this while rereading mainchin. I find it interesting. Ameerah and Shand both are kind of (looking at it in retrospect) trying to cast suspicion against Mainchin. I also find it WAAAAAY interesting that Ameerah mentions someone buddying up to Gobnait. Buddying up is not the totally commonest expression, in Mafia. I did a search of it at RM and came up with 66 matches. Second time this game I see someone discussing "buddying up" in relation to Gobnait.

Personally I have no connection to Gobnait, but a few people seem realllly invested in trying to plot connections for him. Shand also specifically says he would like to plot connections for Mainchin, Carmen & Laine based on Ameerahs post. Now, Mainchin was a civvie. My initial suspicion of Laine was based on Jorhan being bad, which he was not. A lot of people, including me, seem to see potential civ credentials in Carmen.

This post is one of theose things that make you go hmmmm, as far as I am concerned.

Today we have a chance to have a lynch free of fear of talking and free of Rumpys manipulation. We really need to talk a lot today, and get our cards and suspicions on the table.

Bac, you are going to be mightily disappointed if you succeed in getting me lynched because I'm not the evil you've convinced yourself I am. Seriously, I'm not, and I think you've seriously tunnel-visioned yourself into thinking otherwise. You are harping on something I said on Day 2 when I was just beginning to get my head into the game. And I will repeat, since then I haven't mentioned suspecting you since.

You also appear to be trying to connect me to Shand and others now.

Shand, give me a hand here. The only way Shand and I could be in cahoots with one another is if we're civvie who happen to have shared an idea or two in the thread.

I'm sorry I suspected you on Day 2, Bac. Clearly I opened a giant can of worms with that. But again, on Day 3, I really began to read the thread and never mentioned suspecting you again. Think about that some.

Yes, I suspected Mainchin somewhat, and Laine too. But in the same post where I made my comments about those two, I also made them about Carmen. And I've been pretty much going after her ever since.

RIP Mainchin.

So if Rumpel was involved in Mainchin's demise, then the word must have been said quite a lot since Finnian had accrued a large number of votes... That's disheartening.

I am sticking with my Carmen vote. She mayormaynot have role-hinted and her posts haven't done much to quell my suspicion of her.

I keep going back and forth on Finnian--I just can't wrap my brain around why a mafia would choose not to vote 3 days in a row knowing that they can't use their night power (or that their teammate wouldn't be pushing them to vote). I hope he is bad, but I decided to stick with my gut.

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Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:Did this bother anyone as it did me? From here: viewtopic.php?p=19712#p19712

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:
Will you tell us whom would have gotten your vote?

No idea, to be honest.

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Really? Day 1? I wasn't around, hadn't really followed the thread, would you have liked me to pick a name out of thin air? Because that's what I would have had to do to give a different answer. I really have no clue who I would have voted for Day 1, other than someone from the table I was told to vote from.

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Yes really- Day 1. Why? Because no Night period preceded it, which means it is the only poll we have where people could vote without their votes getting appropriated. I therefore think analyzing Day 1 is a good thing.

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I honestly had no idea at the time you asked who I would have voted for. I don't really know what else to say about that.

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Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:Did this bother anyone as it did me? From here: viewtopic.php?p=19712#p19712

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:
Will you tell us whom would have gotten your vote?

No idea, to be honest.

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Really? Day 1? I wasn't around, hadn't really followed the thread, would you have liked me to pick a name out of thin air? Because that's what I would have had to do to give a different answer. I really have no clue who I would have voted for Day 1, other than someone from the table I was told to vote from.

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Bac Wunderelin wrote:During the Jorhan lynch she put words in my mouth and grouped me in with people making a particular argument (I believe the discussion was re your theories, Gob) when I had no part of that discussion. Then when asked to put her money where her mouth was and bring the proof, she couldn't do it, but still implied it was so.

Just slippery IMO

*19*

I also backed way off that after Night 2. I haven't mentioned any suspicion of you since Night 2.

I was still getting my head into the game on Day 2 and posted on what stuck out to me at the time. Since then, I've had a lot more clarity because I'm not way behind like I was at the beginning.

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Shand Azureye wrote:Carmen was voted for by: Fane (6), Etain (9), Lyel (10), Eurolyvn (12), Miyuki (13), and Ameerah (14). My question to you guys -- have you at all changed your mind about Carmen, or are you prepared to vote for her again today?

Carmen is/was still on the top of my list. I have some reservations now due to this supposed role hinting. But if they aren't really role hints then I don't feel like I have a reason to trust her.

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Bac Wunderelin wrote:Perhaps I said something to piss them off? Not sure what I have said that someone else did not say as well (other than saying Ameerah was shady, and tbh, I think I was not the only one to say that).

All I can say is that they somehow redirected the consensus hanging to me. They wanted tiny me to go bye bye is all I know for sure.

*9*

I'm pretty sure you are the only person who has called me shady and other than saying I've used hyperbole, you really haven't elaborated on why. Again, you are totally barking up the wrong tree and I'd ask that you read my posts again please.

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EBWOP: not framing Bac, but trying to give him street cred.

I doubt it was framing Bac because if Bac hadn't said he lost his lynch save, then I don't think we would have even realized the lynch had been switched to him. I certainly thought it was Carmen that survived the lynch.

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For me it's not so much that it makes you automatically bad, it's just that not participating in discussion or voting isn't really civvie behavior. As civvies, our main power against the mafia is voting numbers. That's why I continue to say your behavior is puzzling to me because civvie or baddie it doesn't make much sense.

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Yay for no night kill!!!

Bac, we really are like ships passing in the night. I am not sure why you think I'm being blendy and using hyberbole. I spent a great deal of time on Day 2 reading back through a lot of posts and posted my thoughts on the people I'm suspicious of: Carmen, Mainchin, and Laine.

Mainchin has now come out and basically vouched for Laine which I'm not sure what to make of that. Could very well be a civvie vouching for another civvie. But couldn't it also be a bold mafia move? One teammates sees another teammate taking heat and decides to make a preemptive move to protect that teammate? I'm torn on this to be honest.

And Finnian is just confusing the heck out of me. Pointedly not voting in lynches, but continues to vote in night polls....why do that? Unless they don't have an active night power and can afford to not vote. But that still doesn't seem like civvie behavior to me.

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I'm not sure what to make of Carmen surviving the lynch.

Going to go with rune because runes are awesome.

Carmen Brightsun wrote:I’m sorry I have not been around much. I was away most of the day (again) and today my infant had to get shots, so that’s been no fun.

What exactly is the case against me? I voted Caillic Day 1 because the two so-called random votes and the one illegal vote didn’t sit well with me. I was wrong. I voted Jorhan Day 2 because the case made against him was very strong. People had convinced me. Ameerah, I didn’t “pretty quickly” vote for Jorhan. I voted near the end, about three hours before the poll ended. Sadly, I was wrong. I’m frustrated because I haven’t been as involved as I would like to be, but I have kids, and the past few days have been very busy.

I thought you were the 6th to vote in the Day 2 poll, but I went back again to look and realized Laine was 6th. Sorry about that. However, given the way the votes are so spread out today, I didn't want to participate in spreading it out much further and you are one of my main 3 suspicions.

@Bac: The translation looks like it says you don't not trust the people who have votes, but you don't trust me as far as you can throw me...hopefully when you're not forced to post in a foreign language you can elaborate on why.

I'm still wary of Mainchin, Laine, and Carmen and of the 3 I voted Carmen so as to not spread out the vote any further than it already is.

Linki: Ummmm, Bac voted for me and spread the vote out further?

Carmen Brightsun wrote:

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote: Carmen - Day 1 she seems to be defending Jorhan because she doesn't like the "random" votes for him and votes Caillic. Day 2 she says she wasn't defending Jorhan by voting Caillic and proves that by voting Jorhan. Then posts that she thought "we had this one right" re: Jorhan which seems odd based on her Day 1 votes. She later explains when questioned that she thought the cases seemed fair. The flip flop on Jorhan seems abrupt considering she explicitly stated she was leaning good on him Day 1...but she doesn't have many posts so it's hard to get a solid read on her.

It doesn't matter who was in the place Jorhan was. I thought it was crazy that players kept saying they were voting randomly but kept coming up with Jorhan. No flip-flopping here.

You went from saying you thought Jorhan was civvie and implied people were faking their randomly voting Jorhan Day 1, to pretty quickly voting for him on Day 2--seems like flip-flopping to me.

Also, only 2 players randomized their votes and got Jorhan on Day 1. And of those players, Fane's vote didn't even count because Jorhan wasn't at the table of people he was allowed to vote for. You make it sound like tons of people randomized and happened to get Jorhan. There were only 7 people at Jorhan's table, so it's not like the randomizing occurred out of 24 people.

Mainchin's panic vote for Etain does not sit well with me. I understand having the wrong time settings (daylight savings always catches me up) but voting a low poster on Day 3 seems very weak. On top of him voting a low poster who the host said was having computer issues and that player just showed up to post during this day phase! Even doing a light reading of the thread I'd think that was hard to miss. And if you're going to go the low poster vote route, why not a low poster who has been around all game but won't contribute, like Finnian?

Just seems very odd to me.

RIPIYWG Dilan and Gaerwen.

I've read back through a few player's posts that have been mentioned as suspicious and have written down my thoughts while reading through them.

Gobnait - Very active during Day 0 and discussing tables and whatnot. Agrees with Dierdre in being somewhat pinged by Mainchin's post about a mafia being at each table (that it sounds like something a mafia member would say), and in the same post defends Laine. Most of his following posts are about his theory that Queran and Bronwyn are bad. After Jorhan flips civvie, says he will need to re-evaluate since his case doesn't make as much sense now. Begins to get somewhat pinged by Carmen and Laine and continues to suspect Queran, but for new reasons. Decides to take a step back from his tête-à-tête with Queran to focus on the lynch.

Carmen - Day 1 she seems to be defending Jorhan because she doesn't like the "random" votes for him and votes Caillic. Day 2 she says she wasn't defending Jorhan by voting Caillic and proves that by voting Jorhan. Then posts that she thought "we had this one right" re: Jorhan which seems odd based on her Day 1 votes. She later explains when questioned that she thought the cases seemed fair. The flip flop on Jorhan seems abrupt considering she explicitly stated she was leaning good on him Day 1...but she doesn't have many posts so it's hard to get a solid read on her.

Mainchin - Table switcher. First to propose the idea that there is at least one mafia at each table and that the hosts may have decreed that. Says he will likely randomize Day 1, then ultimately decides to vote for a low poster, Gaerwen. He defends Laine here when Laine began taking heat for his posts and vote Day 1. He has a couple of posts defending Gobnait (maybe buddying up to him??). And I was somewhat bothered by his post here. At the end he says he will try to find some time to read back and form some opinions of his own, but barring that will vote for "the most satisfactory argument from my esteemed fellow creatures." To me this reads like a nice little set-up for being able to place the blame on someone else's case if a civvie gets lynched again.

Laine - Day 1 originally says he will likely vote Gaerwen for being against posting in foreign languages. When pointed out that would make communication in thread horrible, he turns to possibly voting for Caiilic for not wanting to try to find a way around Rumple's ability, then when the hosts make it pretty clear there will be no getting around Rumple, he then moves on to voting Bac for voting a low poster when there was a non-poster. He makes it clear he really wants a reason for giving someone a vote (fair enough) but then when pressed on it admits to having simply been wrong in his reason. Then jumps on the Jorhan bandwagon without adding to the discussion at all. When asked by Gobnait who his suspicions are, he says that he's pinged by Queran but that he's not sure since the case for her being bad hinged on Jorhan being bad.

Finnian - Has 12 posts which don't add to discussion at all. Is clearly keeping up with the game because he has voted in the night polls, but not the lynches... He almost seems cavalier in how little attention he's been paying to the game (see his post here). I'm not sure if that makes him bad, or simply disinterested?

At the moment I'm thinking Gobnait is more likely to be good. But there are things that ping me about Carmen, Mainchin, and Laine. One of those three will likely receive my vote today.

RIP Jorhan...should have stuck with my instinct that your lynch felt more like an out of control bandwagon...but the case did sound solid. Ugh.

I chose pea. I have no real reason why.

I need to vote now--while I am nervous about the amount of votes Jorhan has received, I also think the case against him sounds logical and that perhaps if he's bad, some of those voters are his teammates resigning him to his fate.

I think I need to start over from scratch and reread everything with a fresh set of eyes (headaches all week followed by my house's A/C deciding to break thus it's a sauna in here is making me murky in the mind) to try to form some opinions of my own.

*Votes Jorhan*

Bac Wunderelin wrote:Can you give me an example of this buddying up? You & Queran saying it does not make it so.

Well, it was a feeling I got upon catching up on a lot of posts at once. Both you and Gobnait seem to be actively singling out Bronwyn and Queran while other posters are simply saying, "interesting theory!"

Now, I realize it could mean nothing, after all it also seems that Bronwyn and Queran are "buddying up" somewhat.

This could be nothing more than sharing an opinion on the going-ons in the game.

I mentioned it because it was something that I noticed during my read and thought it might be noteworthy.

All I know for sure is right now I trust no one.

I am having a really difficult time wrapping my mind around new names and avatars so I am definitely being slow to get into this game.

But having just caught up, the main things that stick out to me are: 1) that it seems like a bandwagon may be forming on Jorhan. If he's bad, then awesome! But I can easily see this being a case where Jorhan made posts that looked suspicious and the baddies are laughing behind the scenes at an easy civvie lynch.

and 2) there does seem to be a bit of "buddying up" going on between Gobnait and Bac. More that Bac is backing up Gobnait.

Also, I find it odd that Gobnait still thinks Bronwyn was referring to me re: the not defending oneself about receiving a vote when it was clear Bronwyn was referring to Caillic (after all, I wasn't even around Day 1 so obviously I couldn't defend myself at the time!). But was that a case of really misunderstanding, or clever twisting of a post like Queran suggests?

I am having a difficult time deciding where to place my vote today...

Gobnait Gingeruite wrote:

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote: And are you saying lefties aren't happy!? Lefties rule!

We do rule, but we're also unhappy! Lefties tend to fall on either end of the IQ bell curve. There's also evidence we're more cretive and that our brain halves work better together than righties'. However, we have higher rates of depression, alcoholism, suicide, and deaths by accident than righties.

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:

Dilan Bluemoss wrote:

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote: And are you saying lefties aren't happy!? Lefties rule!

Let's just say there's a reason why the Latin word for "left" is "sinister."

Oh, lol, I didn't think of that reason.

Will you tell us whom would have gotten your vote?

No idea, to be honest.

Dilan Bluemoss wrote:

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote: And are you saying lefties aren't happy!? Lefties rule!

Let's just say there's a reason why the Latin word for "left" is "sinister."

Oh, lol, I didn't think of that reason.

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:Sorry for not being around. I've been dealing with some righteous headaches for days now and it's addled my brain.

I've had some bad headaches myself. Can't figure out why.

But something else you said before that...

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:Love the twist to the day one poll! This will making voting very interesting indeed!

I like a twist myself. A twist of lime or lemon. Sure.

Thing is, I don't get the interesting part from you. You got one vote (from our dear princess, who woke up for the sole purpose of voting for you!) and you didn't defend yourself or vote at all.

Finally, there's this damning piece of evidence:

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:I choose Table of Happiness!

The seating chart diagram is the best thing ever!

Feel better Roxy! I'm sending big hugs your way!

bea wrote:OMG - I *just* now realized! You even sat me on the correct side of the table!!!!!! I am left handed so I always have to sit at the far end so I don't bump elbows whilst I'm eating. :notworthy:

Lefties unite!

You chose happiness and yet you're left handed?

The Day 1 poll was interesting--only being allowed to vote a specific set of people is unusual and thus interesting to me. 'Twas a shame I wasn't around to participate in the Day 1 discussion.

As for receiving a vote Day 1, I was not around at all. I made a post early in the day, became very ill and missed all of Day 1 and part of Night 1 (today is actually the first day since Monday that I haven't had a headache). When I read back, I saw the reason Caillic voted for me was simply because I was the last to sit at the Happiness table...not sure what I need to defend there?

And are you saying lefties aren't happy!? Lefties rule!

Sorry for not being around. I've been dealing with some righteous headaches for days now and it's addled my brain.

RIP Caillic.

Picking woods because I like woods best.

Love the twist to the day one poll! This will making voting very interesting indeed!

I choose Table of Happiness!

The seating chart diagram is the best thing ever!

Feel better Roxy! I'm sending big hugs your way!

bea wrote:OMG - I *just* now realized! You even sat me on the correct side of the table!!!!!! I am left handed so I always have to sit at the far end so I don't bump elbows whilst I'm eating. :notworthy:

Lefties unite!