The Syndicate

Grutfud Orangesprite wrote: I'm guessing there's some sort of dead day going on today. I wonder if they can vote. If so I hope more civs show up!

Believe me- I came to warn you.

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:I can hardly wait to hear everyone else's thoughts about these posts. I'm going to hang on to my weather forecast a big longer.

Stop sweating me about the weather.

Grutfud Orangesprite wrote: We have to try for a wicked for the numbers.

I've seen better days than this one.

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:Well okay then. Sounds like a plan to me.

She's crafty.

Dierdre Wonderbird wrote: we need to lynch anchorete and fane and euro. we do that, and survive the nights, we win. that's where we're at. there could be a third wicked still alive as well but I'm hoping not...

It could be nice to be alive.

Anchorete Playfulure wrote: I have been having car issues this week, and it has cut into my game time.

I got trees on my mirror so my car won't smell.

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:I get that rhinfrew is trying to tell us something. Something that has been considered....
But I also hope this is something you're allowed to do?

Get it together. See what's happening.

Grutfud Orangesprite wrote:Based on the win conditions we need to lynch a wicked team person today. Fane or Lyle?

Hold up, goddammit

Grutfud Orangesprite wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:

Grutfud Orangesprite wrote:What do you guys think of the night result?

I can't stand it, I know you planned it

How ya doing dead boy?

How do I make friends now

Grutfud Orangesprite wrote:What do you guys think of the night result?

I can't stand it, I know you planned it

Fane Winebattle wrote:I'm guilty because I'm pulling out all the stops to kill a bad guy, Izett? You'll be sorry when Shand and his gang kill off the rest of you. Sadly, it looks like I won't be around to say I told you so.

So put a quarter in your ass, cuz you played yourself.

I now must venture forth into the perilous wilderness known as W'al-M'art, where I seek a treasure I have heard called "toilet paper." I still do not understand its purpose, but a mystical voice informs me that we have dire need of it.

I shall return.

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote: Are you still of the opinion that Carmen is likely a townie?

I apologize for not addressing this in my response.

I don't know about Carmen. But please do not paint my words with a tinge they did not have: I never expressed the opinion that Carmen is likely a friend, only that the case against her was circumstantial and a Catch-22. I do not like such cases.

I find Gloomsoul to be the better choice. He sounds desperate and somehow bitter.

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:well spoken Grut. The genie is recommending something that has already been attempted, without success.

Attempted by who exactly?

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:I do see what you're getting at Rhinfrew, but anyone who kills at night is going to kill regardless of conversation. I'm all for nightly conversation even in regular games.

But we are each entitled to view it as we choose.

Are you still of the opinion that Carmen is likely a townie? Did you happen to notice the other 2 or 3 players who were open to using a code of some type? If so, do you agree with them?

Perhaps my proposal wasn't as clear as I had intended it. How ironic.

What I was getting at was that things happen at Night (kills, visions, etc.) that may need to be discussed during the Day.

The bottom line is this: We don't need a special code to circumvent anything. We already have one. The common tongue is diverse enough that with creativity and thriftiness, we can get our points across to one another using as few clear words as we can.

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:I am not in favor of an utterly silent Day period. Is there no middle ground between complete silence and the explosive verbosity we have witnessed?

Can you say why you're not in favor of this, or did I miss it?

Loquaciousness injures.
Quietude impairs: Nocturnal occurrences require conversation.

(I hope you see what I'm getting at)

I am not in favor of an utterly silent Day period. Is there no middle ground between complete silence and the explosive verbosity we have witnessed?

I hope the hosts, peace be upon them, favor honesty over ass kissing.

I always found Aesop to be a real funny fucker. He could whip up the damnedest stories. We went to college together, did you not know? He would down shots of the finest Greek Ouzo and pen the craziest bullshit I'd ever seen on cocktail napkins. Talking cocks? Check. Tortoises that win races? Check. Jupiter getting pissed at a bee? Ha! That one probably happened because the bee was sticking Leda on the side. Zeus was an Olympic douche.

We always used to laugh at him, because he believed he'd be a famous author. My unsold copies of My Life with No Penis are still sitting in my basement.

Anyway, I am raising a glass of North America's finest flavored whiskey in honor of my homeboy Aesop! Here's for all the good times, yo!

Damn it to Jahannam!

I see that I chose poorly. Again.

All right. I've made up my mind. Gobnait has worded some things in ways that twist their meaning, and that offends me. For example:

Gobnait Gingeruite wrote: First off, I'll reiterate about Queran's voting record. 4 votes for confirmed civs, and the vote for me which makes 5. Only Carmen has voted 5 confirmed civs, and only Queran, Bac, and Bronwyn have voted 4 confirmeds.

Five confirmed civilians? Carmen voted for three confirmed civilians. Wording like that bothers me. You should be ashamed and should have put an asterisk after that claim with the fine print at the bottom of your post.

I am voting for Gobnait. I still have my doubts about Queran.

I too must read back through the back and forth. My vote will likely be going to either Queran or Gobnait.

Fane Winebattle wrote:Thank you for that, Gobnait. Your effort enriches us all. At this point, you both make very convincing and sincere cases to the point that I'm inclined to vote for neither of you and seek baddies elsewhere, because a wrong choice between the two of you would result in the loss of a very valuable civ.

I disagree with your inclination.

In their feud I believe we will touch the bottom of this swamp.

Anchorete Playfulure wrote:The third one, evading a lynch, condemns her more than not; to my mind, it was either her or it was Finnian. It was not Finnian.

It was not her or Finnian. It was her or Finnian or anybody. That's why Bac got the lynch. Yes, someone with zero votes.

viewtopic.php?p=20189#p20189

This is important to understand.

I have had a tough two man-days. But I am current now, and I want to make a bold counter-assessment:

If Carmen is bad, then she is bad at being bad. Consider:

1. She set herself up by voting Caillic on Day 1 when she could have voted anyone else and evaded any immediate scrutiny. And she actually gave a reason for her vote (one that I still find valid). Were she evil, she could have let Jorhan die, knowing Jorhan was innocent, and avoided suspicion.
2. Thus she became a part of the "Who was saving Jorhan?" issue that quickly led to Jorhan's death (and a damned if you do/don't scenario I have already expressed).
3. She evaded a lynch. That doesn't look good, I admit. But Finnian dodged one too, and we lynched him. And that was no good either.
4. People stopped suspecting Carmen because of "role hinting." I myself didn't see what others were seeing until much later. But then I'm not one to read into things. I also enjoy a mighty Shiraz.
5. Carmen later admitted to no role hinting and just having fun. I actually believe her. But if Carmen were foe, then why spoil a good thing by answering "Cinderella" and talking about having fun? Why throw yourself back into the spotlight?

It makes no sense to me. And I realize defending someone is always a perilous affair, but I must speak my mind. We cannot afford blowing it again.

Gobnait Gingeruite wrote:
I can do this if people want. I have reservations. First, I likely die either way. Either folks believe him and I "win the popularity contest" or he flips bad, everyoje believes I'm civ, and it gets me NKed. Second, why ask me to write a super long and detailed case now, right after Rumplestiltskin comes back into play, after we've had 3 rl sunny periods without him? That super pings me.

Before I set out on my arduous journey today, let me say that this is a false dilemma. It could well be that you are both evil, and if that is true, then the other crew already knows you are not one of their own.

My favorite Grimm character may as well be the youthful soldier in "Die drei Schlangenblätter" ("The Three Snake Leaves"), because, damn, a guy will do anything for a lay.

We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams
How mayst there be a tale without the sojourners' schemes?

I have voted Characters.

The Elf is up on the front page. That may explain why Finnian was not so active.

I am eager to hear about this suspicion of me that has risen faster than the tide.

And in any event, I owe Finnian Metalfox an apology. At least I kept my promise to you. RIP

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:I have a busy day today so I need to go ahead and vote now. While Finnian may be a mystery to me, there's no doubt he survived a lynch and a civvie died in his place. And not voting in lynches is not civvie behavior.

*Votes Finnian*

Also, I'm beginning to get little pings from Rhinfrew. I feel like his posts are filled with lots of jokes and genie references, like he's trying to distract through humor? I am mentioning it now since it crossed my mind, but I need to do a more thorough read of his posts when I have time later.

Is that so? Very well. Far be it from me to stop you from reading as you wish, but it appears that you and Gobnait are seeking to set me up preemptively for Day 6 for reasons that you'll be able to concoct at your leisure. Funny that you single out the Djinn, when the Kraken King, the Twilight Pixie Rajah, and many others are quite fond of...well...enjoying themselves.

For your foolish words, I shall place my mark this Day upon your forehead.

I vote Ameerah.

Shand Azureye wrote:Also, I see the late Gaerwen is still part of the lynch poll. Is this an error, or are we missing something?

Jorhan is up there again too.

Shand Azureye wrote:Considering that Finnian survived the fourth day lynch, I'm rethinking my position on him. Carmen has the same thing going against her as well, but I'm still wary about her role hints.

Finnian, just out of curiosity, do you yourself have any idea/theory as to how you survived the lynch?

Finnian Metalfox wrote:Before anyone asks, I have no clue how I survived.

Gobnait Gingeruite wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:There is a group (yes group, given that the heading is "The Wicked OneS") whose abilities have been secrets. This grim revelation means that I have to reevaluate everything.

For now, however, I will astrally project myself into the mind of someone a thousand years from now and blow up a shit ton of robots in hopes that answers come from that.

I just wanted to take a second to point this out. If you've believed Bac's info and the surrounding discussion, we've known about this for days now. This strikes me as a possible case of playing dumb. It's something I'd say if I were on the secret baddie team. Not saying you are, Rhinfrew, just that it pings me

I beg your pardon, my dear grotesque, but believing things does not mean one knows anything. Having adorned a church or three in your heyday means you surely must be aware of this.

There is a group (yes group, given that the heading is "The Wicked OneS") whose abilities have been secrets. This grim revelation means that I have to reevaluate everything.

For now, however, I will astrally project myself into the mind of someone a thousand years from now and blow up a shit ton of robots in hopes that answers come from that.

Shand Azureye wrote:RIP Mainchin. I don't know if you were aligned with the town, or were operating on your own. I do know that I had great fun playing with you, dear friend, and you will be missed.

bea wrote:

Manchin Ironbeast has been lynched. He was The Gnome. A secret Civ role.

Allah has spoken!

In my vision, I watched. And behold! A trollish little man who, legend has it, could spin straw into gold, was approaching a trio of ruffians. He spoke with them, and even though I hid behind a sycamore tree, I heard his speech plainly: The enchanting word for Day 2 was "Castle."

Bac Wunderelin wrote:
Does no night mean The Trickster did not get to pick a word? So we might perhaps have a normal lynch?

Only makes sense. I would post a "dance" icon, but dancing is strictly forbidden by my religion. That...and no legs.

Speaking of He-Who-Does-Not-Deserve-to-be-Named, I had a vision of his activity. I must now pray and learn if I am free to disclose what I have seen.

I must lie down and take a dose of salts...

I will not speak again until the sun sets. I have made thirty utterances, and to the Djinns, thirty is the perfect number. Rotated ninety degrees, it looks like the bosom of a well-endowed she-Djinn.

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Lyel Lambboat wrote:Sorry for being Mia, my father in law died on Wednesday so mafia is the least thing of my mind.

My condolences, Lyel.

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Finnian Metalfox wrote:Yeah, Etain. The Djinn hates me enough already.

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We Djinns have too much in our hearts to harbor hate. But the Cause of Peace requires that evil be purged from the world, as I learned when I attended the Forty-Third Annual Convention of the Grand Mystic Royal Order of the Nobles of the Ali Baba Temple of the Shrine.

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Etain Royalskull wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:I must say, your vote surprises me, oh thrice-eyed felis domesticus.

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I invite you to read the last two pages in their entirety and see if you see the pattern and not so subtle push away from Finnian and toward low posters once it became ...clear?... that there was a role hint in play.

13.

I have little need to reread the last two pages in their entirety. I am not questioning your vote. It just surprised me is all.

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I must say, your vote surprises me, oh thrice-eyed felis domesticus.

26

Ah, good luck getting a useful word out of that one.

I am voting for Metalfox.

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I'm bringing this here so that I might cleanse my field of vision from one of these irritating, cluttering spites the natives call "Tabs of the Fire Fox."



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Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:Did this bother anyone as it did me? From here: viewtopic.php?p=19712#p19712

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:
Will you tell us whom would have gotten your vote?

No idea, to be honest.

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Really? Day 1? I wasn't around, hadn't really followed the thread, would you have liked me to pick a name out of thin air? Because that's what I would have had to do to give a different answer. I really have no clue who I would have voted for Day 1, other than someone from the table I was told to vote from.

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Yes really- Day 1. Why? Because no Night period preceded it, which means it is the only poll we have where people could vote without their votes getting appropriated. I therefore think analyzing Day 1 is a good thing.

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Did this bother anyone as it did me? From here: viewtopic.php?p=19712#p19712

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:
Will you tell us whom would have gotten your vote?

No idea, to be honest.

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Bac Wunderelin wrote:During the Jorhan lynch she put words in my mouth and grouped me in with people making a particular argument (I believe the discussion was re your theories, Gob) when I had no part of that discussion. Then when asked to put her money where her mouth was and bring the proof, she couldn't do it, but still implied it was so.

Just slippery IMO

*19*

Are you referring to Ameerah?

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Finnian will likely get my vote.

He was here all day.

Morning: viewtopic.php?p=20269#p20269

Afternoon: viewtopic.php?p=20294#p20294

Evening: viewtopic.php?p=20317#p20317

and STILL was useless.

Biology stuff? Biology is easy. Things live. Will you?

Ah!

I cannot turn back time, but I can view it! Thank you for the clarification.

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Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:Okay, see if anything jumps out at anyone, if it does, do you believe it? Just coincidence? If you don't believe it, then is it just a 2 night set-up, trying to appear to be a townie role? That seems risky to me, as it invites checking.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=148&p=19909#p19909
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=148&p=20142#p20142

Is the sun up?

Jesus! Mohammed!

Just speak plainly!

I'm not very good with irony or satire, or whatever you mean. Do you think I should not have posted the links? If it was posted, its fair game, isn't it?

i forgot to count 9, so I'm up to 10

I'm saying I don't know what the hell you are talking about.

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Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:Okay, see if anything jumps out at anyone, if it does, do you believe it? Just coincidence? If you don't believe it, then is it just a 2 night set-up, trying to appear to be a townie role? That seems risky to me, as it invites checking.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=148&p=19909#p19909
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=148&p=20142#p20142

Is the sun up?

Jesus! Mohammed!

Just speak plainly!