The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:00 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:58 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:54 am Is the vanity wagon making anyone else (hyena) irrationally nervous or is that just me?
Considering that half the players in this group are on the wagon now and that it felt like it grew pretty quickly after Elephant joined it, yes, I am paranoid.

But I also think about D1 in our qualifiers where you predicted our partner's wagon would die down after you and others piled voted onto their wagon. So, while I don't know what to make of it, I'm hesitant to change things up so soon.
Yeah, I have that feeling that vanity is either scum or has scum on their vote. Maybe both but definitely one.

Okay... outside the neophyte towncore squad, we have Long Con, Trustworthy Liberal, Elephant, Hyena... juliets is absolutely setting herself up for a vanity vote... who else is left? Ty4on? Sure. Creature, then. So you're talking about everyone except Creature with this insight.

That towncore is acceptable. I'll hopefully do something to get included. Nanook doesn't like me though. I'll just stay in the shadows and help you Avengers out if I can.

I like the vig Role Points point. Whoever the vig is has been spending their points flagrantly, and we may not be able to count on another vig kill at all, depending how many they started with.

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:34 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:40 pm Just to be devil's advocate... what are the benefits/drawbacks of a No-Lynch today?
The benefits are
1. we don't have to worry about getting things wrong and losing another town.
2. we don't have to worry about accidentally mislynching the Vig if that's who's making these towny shots.
3. mislynching town who's not Vig also narrows down who the Vig could be, so, we'd also give the Vig more cover.
3. assuming that scum has to kill and send a town from the other group here, town will still guaranteed be in majority tomorrow.

The drawbacks are
1. No-Lynch vs <Player A> doesn't give us any info on Player A's alignment if no-lynch passes.
2. we also, of course, don't gain the info we might gain from having competing wagons between two players.
3. no one gets resolved.
4. the other group loses out on gaining info from a lynch, too.

Love it, Hyena. I especially love the double 3 on the benefits.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:36 pm I'm not feeling great about how little actual analysis is going on in this here phase but also I am tired and sympathize

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:36 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:34 pm vanity is an acceptable lynch to me. [VOTE: vanity.] aubergine
Choo chooooo

Do go on.

vanity is an acceptable lynch to me. [VOTE: vanity.] aubergine

Just to be devil's advocate... what are the benefits/drawbacks of a No-Lynch today?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:18 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:04 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:28 pm Hmm.

Question to all:

Do you think Spiny/Boo flipping town helped the other group solve people within their group? Do you think one of Vanity's or Elephant's flips will help them? How about Ty4on, who they apparently voted out of the group? Should we be trying to help give them info via flipping the people they send here?
Well I think vanity's or elephant's flip could be interesting to them regardless, though they'd have to assess interactions from d1 based on memory
I've got an idea. How would you feel about lynching vanity or elephant, and then using the (maybe?) vig shot to kill Ty4on? That way, we get the info from people voting between vanity and elephant AND we get the other group's lynch killed to give them info.

Seems reasonable.

[mention]juliets[/mention] You're in the orange section of my rainbow because your busywork data feed of votes, while obviously time-consuming, takes the place of analysis-time. This is easier to do for a wolf than faking real analysis. Also your reaction to vanity's criticism looked fake to me, an overdone bristly reaction to ward away suspicion.

The criticism in question is in the same flavour as mine - vanity called it "lazy" to literally copy Elephant's reads, and while I wouldn't use that word (because you'll slap me

), it's easier for scum to identify with someone else's reads than create their own. Again, I understand why you did it, but I certainly wouldn't expect you to play a one-dimensional scum game, so I give these pings credibility.

The thing about townslipping via innocent flavour-reveal questions... hadn't it previously been discussed in-thread at least once? Like, how much leeway do we give, who's not reading the whole thread, and is that in itself a scummy thing to do? Like, I haven't talked about it yet, maybe I'll bolster my townlook on Day 6 by asking again if we can reveal flavour?

We've literally known since the end of Day 1 that scum have flavourclaims, so I don't really understand why they are being discussed at all, nor why any credence should be lent to appearing innocent of something that's in the Rules and on every player's role card.

Is this a culture thing? Do people get townread for this kind of thing elsewhere? Do scum fake-townslip about flavour?

My eyes started to close as I was reading posts, and I'm going to take a nap for a bit. Didn't sleep well at the camp last night.

Elephant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:31 pm It seems best tonwait for Nanook to weigh in, but if the other group lynched Nova, that seems to have been a good idea which we should consider emulating? Unless we assume that the other group was as adept with our wagons as we were -- not a surprising occurrence given my prediction, by the way. LHF lynches tend to get directed by scum. Given that both wagons were town, we might need to look towards who set these up.

Ten voters on two players. Who's more responsible, those who set it up, or those who finished it off? Maybe wolves were waiting in the wings to ensure a town lynch? Not to mention that the so-called "LHF group" were all involved in those votes as well, right?

Going through Elephant's posts from yesterday... he goes on and on about how vanity isn't the same as his town self, and it looks like nothing vanity does it right, and then takes a 90 degree turn and votes DFaraday because "he needs to be sorted".

Were you afraid to pull the trigger on vanity, El?

I totally did. Sorry jules! I copied the lynch poll and cut out the extraneous stuff, and I guess I cut out juliets too.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
nutella
Hyena
Creature
Elephant
juliets
Trustworthy Liberal
vanity.
novaselinenever / Ty4on
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vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:45 am benson was also pushing on tlib. he was also just one of the most active and villagery people in our group, though that raises the question why nutella didn't die?

thinking face emoji

Don't really like this post either. I've seen too many wolves (myself included) try to pull a frame-up job nightkill and they're usually the first to bring it up in the thread, after giving a little bit of time for someone else to say something.

Then the ol' leading-question-and-emoji to try to take nutella down a bit without actually making an accusation.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
nutella
Hyena
Creature
Elephant
Trustworthy Liberal
vanity.
novaselinenever / Ty4on

vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:12 pm oh fuck i dumbtelled

ignore me lol

Works better when you let someone else notice it first, but that's just the way I do it...

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:15 pm
Benson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:51 pm
Benson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:48 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:45 pm
My bum is on your lips wrote:Wolf reads
Nova - Tried extensively to push away from the Drago lynch. Like his ISO is literally 50% defending Drago or trying to lynch a CW. Prime suspect today.
I don't think that's necessarily scummy, could be just wrong townie. At least I'd expect scum to be more discreet unless I'm missing something.
Nova pings me so much because I don't understand his reasoning for being so firmly against the Dragomir wagon. It was like he was trying to get anyone (112 or Epignosis) lynched, as long as it wasn't Drag. Yes, this does seem strange for a wolf to do so blatantly, but it could have been because Drago had a power role and maybe he really wanted to preserve that?
This should say powerful role, not power role. I suppose the Godfather isn't as strong in games where you can't claim anything, however.
This is Benson's stance. I should examine whether "extensively" and "firmly" are warranted. Nova expressed town reads on both Drago and 112 before abandoning the Epignosis vote.

I just read, I think they're warranted as much as they can be without nova getting completely ridiculous about it.

Nova's ISO was pukey. Very little, if any, scumhunting effort. Calls Drago town and votes the other wagon.

@[mention]Ty4on[/mention] You mentioned some slight improvements to nova's play on level 2. The lynch still took him, so is it fair to say that the majority didn't agree with your assessment? Do you think more wolf or town votes were on nova?

I do have to do some rereads, I want to freshen up on the bottom four to compare them.

vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:48 am long con is far and away the wolfiest person on boo. the people on dfaraday look wolfy though i'd perceive villagers are more likely to vote on dfaraday in these scenarios

Mostly agree on that. Benson town, nutella looks town, Hyena also town. I'd say vanity is the wolfiest one on the boo train.

Here's where I sit after catching up:

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
nutella
Hyena
vanity.
Creature
Elephant
Trustworthy Liberal
novaselinenever / Ty4on

I want to give you some info on my next couple of days. I'm going to work shortly, and I won't be around at lynch time, though I'll be sneaking off to a bathroom in order to see what's going on if I can. Then it's night, and the thread gets closed 24 hours. Tomorrow morning, I go to an overnight Beavers camp with my son, at a canoe museum. So I won't really be in the thread to any great degree until Sunday... I guess we get back around noon. All times Eastern Standard.

I'll have my phone at the camp, and I'll probably be doing some catching up at bedtime. Don't know if I'll be posting, maybe some short phone thoughts.

boo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:47 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:33 pm It's tough to judge vanity without ever having played with him before. Exasperated claims to his villagery-ness don't really do a lot for me.

I don't like the look of boo's hop on to the vanity vote though, it looks opportunistic. The "Did you miss the D1 lynch result? The only "we" that makes sense there is you're mafia..." is not something that feels like honest scumhunting either.

Looks like the TL wagon isn't really taking off, so I'll check out the boo one instead. [VOTE: spiny boo] aubergine
That was one in a series of responses I made to him, so I think you're missing a fair bit of context there.

I'm also not sure you're in a position to call me opportunistic and then say "so I'll check out [something else, opportunistically]" :P

Fair enough, but I already had some suspicion of your predecessor, so it wasn't that difficult to cast this vote.

Benson wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:30 pm
boo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:03 am
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:48 am One more thing and I'll shut up.

In some of the games I've played where they split up the thread, once you are back with the big group you no longer have access to the split thread. Some you do have access. Because of that I'm saving some stuff in word documents like my voting records. You might want to do the same.
Shouldn't be a problem, this is the 'real' thread, since we have the whole post history. They would have had to make a new one for the other group(s), can't copy and paste them. Unless they blow up this thread and move everyone to the other one. That'd be kinda evil though.
Let's talk about this. Is it TMI? Or is it a reasonable inference?

Enh, boo's not the only one to make some inferences. I think I posted something similar to his quote here.

Benson wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:53 pm Pick the wolf in each pair (or say "no wolf/multiple wolves" if you want)

Elephant/Juliets
Boo/Long Con
Dfaraday/TLib
vanity/hyena (I'm a bit doubtful there'd be a wolf here, but whatever)
creature/nutella/ya boy benson

I have reason to think the first few groups have a wolf in each pair. The latter groups are more or less random.

Elephant
Boo
TLib
vanity
uhhh... not-Benson

So I guess the linkitis feature is turned off, right?

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:40 pm
Benson wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:38 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:33 pm
Benson wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:24 pm I'm at the point where I have a good suspicion one of Elephant or Juliets is a wolf, but probably never together. This inference hinges on vanity being town, however
Then by all means vote for me. I am tired of this game. I have been called a bad player because I am methodical and meticulous, I have been called lazy after I worked my ass off on that vote analysis and put all my effort into responding to people. I have been compared to some cartoon character I don't even know. I spend all my free time on this game and am not enjoying it. Its like another job.

I can die and join the spectator chat and have fun with Ty4on and whoever else is there, maybe TSP and Texas. I can speculate and be myself, cautious and methodical.

Maybe you will learn something from my lynch. I am humor by the way, how ironic.
Whoa, it was just a suspicion Juliets! I don't think you're bad, lazy, or anything negative. You have put in substantial work, I see that.
Being productive doesn't preclude you being a wolf in my mind.
No, I'm not saying it should. But being called lazy? That was just harsh and rude and uncalled for.

I did not have the same perspective as you on the "lazy" thing. He wasn't saying you didn't put time and care into the post, he was saying that it is mentally lazy to copy and paste someone else's thoughts rather than come up with your own.

I totally get why you made that post with points from Elephant, because you explained it understandably. It couldn't be any other way because it was a specific answer to a question, like "what was it about Elephant's case you liked" or something.

vanity reacted worse to it than I think was warranted, but he was getting upset about not being townread for his natural towniness, so...

not altogether reasonable to me.

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:29 pm Okay, I've decided what I wanted to do with TLib. Sorry for doing this, TLib.
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:17 pm Also if i read that right Tony was just a Vanilla Towny (or the equivalent) please correct me if i am reading that wrong
I recall someone mentioning that scum gets fakeclaims to use. Is this correct? If so, this is the possible townslip/PR slip that I saw from TLib.

I don't really understand. What he said is what I got from Tony's flip as well.

It's tough to judge vanity without ever having played with him before. Exasperated claims to his villagery-ness don't really do a lot for me.

I don't like the look of boo's hop on to the vanity vote though, it looks opportunistic. The "Did you miss the D1 lynch result? The only "we" that makes sense there is you're mafia..." is not something that feels like honest scumhunting either.

Looks like the TL wagon isn't really taking off, so I'll check out the boo one instead. [VOTE: spiny boo] aubergine

Looking a little at Spiny's ISO today.

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:16 am ok if i'm gonna start posting from the point I'm caught up at, these were my ~vibes~

anyway Eva is town. and not JUST because her savagery in response to Drago's flirting attempts was the most beautiful effortless thing she's ever done. (more because of her responses to iaafr and 112). Her read that Drago continuing that flirting so long was trying to force conversation, thus scummy, was not one that would've occurred to me, but ig she could be right there.

I do not understand where iaafr's "always town" read of 112 started or came from or what the vibe is that he likes, even though he has since made posts explaining it. i like other posts of iaafr and his overall tone, but that whole read is so ???? to me.

lol at Mac saying he's policy never-lynching me and then immediately asking other people to build a case on me :P that and some overly defensive early posts / questioning things I thought were obvious had me side-eyeing him. but i liked his later posts. will see how he engages with Eva.

I do vibe with IAAFR saying that there's too much "hey i like this guy" and "this guy can be town" going on. from loose recollection Hyena and Epi felt like offenders there. Hyena maybe felt less sincere? this is loose memory.

This is a nice post that bears remembering (especially if the thread is lost to us in the future).

The Eva part is worth analysis, after Drago's flip. If the Eva-Drago thing was a distancing ploy between them as someone suggested, then it looks bad on Spiny. He does offer an offhanded nod about Drago's scumminess, but I don't know if I could craft a weaker agreement. Even with Eva being town in this scenario, Spiny looks a little shady. Scum lean over here.

He almost suspects iiafr for the odd 112 townread, but he turns it around shortly after when he gets caught up to iaafr's updated opinions, which looks pretty good to me. Could be a w-w strategy kind of thing, but I'd lean town on it.

The Mac part doesn't make me lean either way, but bringing it back to Eva is

.

So much for looking at the ISO - I got to this post and used up all my time. Oh well, I'll post it, and I'll be around a few more times before the Day's end. Right now, I feel like I could vote for Spiny. Not my old pal boo, just Spiny.

Is this something you often do, juliets? You are really... busying yourself.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:11 pm
boo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:13 pm
Benson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:12 pm What is the bussing culture like on this forum? I know that's a weird question but I've noticed it can differ site to site. For example my home forum - CanucksCommunity - is VERY pro-bussing. Almost so much so that we always expect it. But conversely, MU had way more anti-bus folks in the games I played and it happened less often.
Varies from player to player. I've had wolf games where we all bus, and games where we all defend each other.
I hate it. Mostly because it has literally never worked for me. I blame DiamondDog. We bussed him hard in Rabbit's King Arthur game (I think we used a kill on him, actually? not even a proper bussing) and our team got wrecked because of it.
Oh wow you've brought back to memory one of my favorite games. I was Lady of the Lake (neutral) masoned with a civ. Then we gained bts with Dex who went to Disney and never came back to the site - gone forever, remember that? At the end of the game as I recall I trusted LC and he was an independent and helped the civs win the game. Or else he screwed me and we lost. That happened somewhere along the line with some game, lol.

HOLY CRAP!!!!

That's the game where I was masoned with the Civ squad but also was on the baddie team! That took some massively hectic manipulation, I remember jumping back and forth between chats in the last minutes of the day trying to coordinate night actions just right.

boo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:15 pm
Benson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:12 pm [VOTE: DFaraday] aubergine
I went to ISO DFaraday after those votes. Then I didn't know what to do with the rest of my minute.
Masturbate 59 times?

Plz bitch I can multitask that shit.

Where's my other hand right now...?

boo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:13 pm
Benson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:12 pm What is the bussing culture like on this forum? I know that's a weird question but I've noticed it can differ site to site. For example my home forum - CanucksCommunity - is VERY pro-bussing. Almost so much so that we always expect it. But conversely, MU had way more anti-bus folks in the games I played and it happened less often.
Varies from player to player. I've had wolf games where we all bus, and games where we all defend each other.
I hate it. Mostly because it has literally never worked for me. I blame DiamondDog. We bussed him hard in Rabbit's King Arthur game (I think we used a kill on him, actually? not even a proper bussing) and our team got wrecked because of it.

I mean, I once used a kill on myself, so... yeah.

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:38 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:19 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:17 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:59 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:21 am @Long Con as it pertains to TL's reasons for voting Drago, I didn't see anything wrong with those reasons. Were your reasons better? What were they?
I generally suspected him more than 112. He was preoccupied with trying to shape a case around 112 saying he was going to roleplay, even though I don't think 112 ever really did it. His "mindmeld buddies" comment on the Mac TMI thing was cringey as well... what did I say before, like a slick salesman or something?

It was also easy to want to vote for him due to his crap with Evenstar, which I didn't like. I don't know if that was alignment-indicative, but it sure made the vote easier.
Thanks LC, yeah I also felt like he was determined to prove that 112 was coming from a scummy place by trying to set herself up for a "town claim". His persistence in that gives 112 some town points in my mind. I don't really think the Eva stuff was AI, other than the possibility he was trying to appear light-hearted thus towny. Didn't come off that way though.
I've never seen Drago be like that before... his flip makes me think it could be some awkward distancing between them, especially when she didn't vote for him.
WAIT. So that WASN'T normal Drago behaviour? Because I mentioned the possibility that that whole thing between Drago and Eva could have been performed to put distance between themselves.

I don't usually have the term "mindmeld" in my lexicon, but that's twice for us now I guess.

Also, your pic is more handsome and charming than I would have imagined a hyena could look.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:41 pm And they don't stop coming

What, the years?

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:31 pm Push a different wagon if you don't like it

That's not what I meant... I just meant the real possibility that he doesn't appear again, given the current state of his ISO.

And what if he doesn't? You guys planning on leaving your votes there until the end of the day?

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:17 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:59 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:21 am @Long Con as it pertains to TL's reasons for voting Drago, I didn't see anything wrong with those reasons. Were your reasons better? What were they?
I generally suspected him more than 112. He was preoccupied with trying to shape a case around 112 saying he was going to roleplay, even though I don't think 112 ever really did it. His "mindmeld buddies" comment on the Mac TMI thing was cringey as well... what did I say before, like a slick salesman or something?

It was also easy to want to vote for him due to his crap with Evenstar, which I didn't like. I don't know if that was alignment-indicative, but it sure made the vote easier.
Thanks LC, yeah I also felt like he was determined to prove that 112 was coming from a scummy place by trying to set herself up for a "town claim". His persistence in that gives 112 some town points in my mind. I don't really think the Eva stuff was AI, other than the possibility he was trying to appear light-hearted thus towny. Didn't come off that way though.

I've never seen Drago be like that before... his flip makes me think it could be some awkward distancing between them, especially when she didn't vote for him.

Benson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:12 pm [VOTE: DFaraday] aubergine

I went to ISO DFaraday after those votes. Then I didn't know what to do with the rest of my minute.

Benson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:12 pm What is the bussing culture like on this forum? I know that's a weird question but I've noticed it can differ site to site. For example my home forum - CanucksCommunity - is VERY pro-bussing. Almost so much so that we always expect it. But conversely, MU had way more anti-bus folks in the games I played and it happened less often.

Varies from player to player. I've had wolf games where we all bus, and games where we all defend each other.

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:07 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:01 pm Also, when you are analyzing votes at EoD... I always cast the vote in the poll before going to post about it, when the time was so short. Any vote I declared in the thread was preceded by the actual vote a minute or two earlier. I doubt that affects the analysis, but there ya go.
The only time it would matter is if you or someone else switched their vote a couple times without announcing each change in the thread. I think this may have happened at one point, because I remember one of the wagons making a sudden jump upwards and it didn't seem to match the announced votes in the thread. Either way, in this case, I don't think it matters.

Yeah... I do remember being surprised by the vote totals right at the end, mostly because you and I were doing the exact same thing... I'm sure we both saw the 8-8 tie at like thirty seconds left, voted, and then came back to see 10-7 or something.

Also, when you are analyzing votes at EoD... I always cast the vote in the poll before going to post about it, when the time was so short. Any vote I declared in the thread was preceded by the actual vote a minute or two earlier. I doubt that affects the analysis, but there ya go.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:21 am @Long Con as it pertains to TL's reasons for voting Drago, I didn't see anything wrong with those reasons. Were your reasons better? What were they?

I generally suspected him more than 112. He was preoccupied with trying to shape a case around 112 saying he was going to roleplay, even though I don't think 112 ever really did it. His "mindmeld buddies" comment on the Mac TMI thing was cringey as well... what did I say before, like a slick salesman or something?

It was also easy to want to vote for him due to his crap with Evenstar, which I didn't like. I don't know if that was alignment-indicative, but it sure made the vote easier.

Hey dudes, sorry I've been not around all day. Worked during the day, then dinner and Hallowe'en - costume - trick-or-treating time. I was Thanos!

I'm going to get caught up and continue playing.

Benson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:30 am Trustworthy is almost too adorable to lynch

It's the monica gifs.

Benson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:03 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:55 pm I don't miss iaafr. I seriously started skipping his posts altogether. Nothing against the guy, but his reads were total chaos, more than I have seen.
Awe I loved iaafr. I think he operates and thinks similar to me.

I do want to model my next game after his style. Looser than I have ever seen, throwing out alignment calls post-by-post with little care for what was said in the past.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:16 pm Sorry for inactivity birthday stuff got right out of hand last two days and called into work currently there.

Seems as if right now Everstar is the top wagon I not her who else would people vote for daycare had two lynchs as an example.

Has hyena done anything amazingly still not town reading him but havn't read up since my last post so if he did something towny I there let me know and I'll look otherwise will tonight after work.

TL, this sentence is one I don't understand. What does it mean? Daycare?

Did anyone come up with something towny about Hyena for you? Your suspicion on Hyena seems to be based off a comparison to a game where he was bad and one where he was good. It's pretty vague, can you show us something more specific?

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:41 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:39 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:35 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:27 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:24 pm Michelle you wanted to talk if you are around So am i
hi.
Once, long ago, you said you catched up and dissapeard. Tell me what have from catching up back then.
I have slight reads for some player poated earlier but this I them I am more confident on my town reads then skim reads not gonna lie but pretty confident on the town ones also why i would prefore not lynching Eve today feeling leaving her alove another day will help sort her out more also why it's juat slight atm.

Still not 100% from that point forward I the 30's of pages woth alittle but seen with the grouping idea feel bad but have more time as this game goes to give it.

Haven't read you as either but you so far don't seem in your work meta having played against and with before so would prefore you to live for now

Towny
-Mac (you)
-Nanook
-Sprityo (i 100% misspelled this am sorry)

-Town Lean
-Everstar

Skumy leaning
-nutella

skumy
-hyena
Thanks, about Eve what gives you the TR?
From her early post and her attempt at leading come from a towny place to me, don't know I I missed anything of more recent places but from what I've read I like her but knowing she's a strong player makes me more reluctant to give the complete town read thous the slight still would rather see more from her when I have more time

This read doesn't look legit. If Eva flips town, then it feels like TMI, and if she flips bad, then it looks like w/w, because there isn't anything to support the read. Eva being a strong lynch possibility during most of Day 1 doesn't help the case.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:08 pm Well getting mislynched as ussaly

Monica sad

Serious AtE action here. Much obvious. Do not like.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:07 pm Okay just finshed Dragomir's ISO don't see multy quotes so heres my thoughts on him

-Seemed to go alittle far with evenstar (not alignment indicative)
-Made a case on 112 based off characters claims saying that a town wouldn't play that way but the case became empty due to random characters
-Not a lot of depth short anwsers threw shade on Mac leaving his vote there before leaving
-hasn't posted in thread since early yesterday morning (my time atleast)

Don't think this is enough to call him 100% scum but i don't think he has been pushing a town presence would love if he could come back and post a little. I know this is ironic coming from me but atleast am here now.

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Scum lean on him based off what he did push when he was fairly active so willing to lynch this today, him missing for a long period doesn't make him look any better either.

These four reasons are each practically nothing. It's four nothings woven into a semblance of a case.

Then this line is really wishy-washy. This man is the busser we've been looking for. "Not enough to call him scum, but I'll put a vote there anyway." Indeed.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:06 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:03 pm Oh shit are we split up into separate threads now? Ok

RIP Tony, uhhh looks like Texas was something secret

Have some analysis I typed up over the night phase, will paste it over shortly
Wait do we see both halfs?

or is the other secert?

This is a man who knows exactly how many threads the game has been split into.

[VOTE: Trustworthy Liberal] aubergine

I don't miss iaafr. I seriously started skipping his posts altogether. Nothing against the guy, but his reads were total chaos, more than I have seen.

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:38 pm I'm not sure what to make of Creature acting so defeated already. I think it's genuine frustration, but I suppose that could still be frustration from being a caught wolf.

AtE perhaps? He is part of a drastically narrowed list of possible scum.

Calling it now, third-party/serial killer Mal. Mmm, it just gave me chills! Maybe not an SK... maybe just a search for Leo win condition.

It is difficult for me to have the ability to edit my post and still not be allowed. That little voice saying "no one will know. just edit in the space."

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