The Syndicate

Great game, Ash and Poison! And Tony, of course, RIP.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:54 pm

Nominated for Funniest Post Socky.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:03 pm Spoiled chat was mostly just being in awe at the sheer number of posts from townies that were literally clearing exactly the wolves and nobody else lol

Guilty as charged.

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:08 pmThen I asked him if he wanted me to back off and he was like “no, go harder”.

This is getting steamy...

We never intended for him to actually die lol.

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:18 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:09 pm Poison played a great meta shattering game, Ash played a comically hard bus on someone who didn't even flip. Doesn't ever really look teamed. This was a hard game.
I mean I'm not taking another "disrespect read" from anybody. Tbh, It was really humiliating to survive in F3 in the champs only because of my meta and losing town the game at the end. Sigh. Had to change the play at some point.

Yeah... that was about believing you were far out of your wolf range, right? Guess you busted that myth.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:22 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:20 pm honestly don’t get why it wasn’t allowed
from what ive heard its a cultural / nostalgic thing for the syndicate (or maybe before the syndicate? people from lostpedia? dunno)

personally i also dislike it, i disliked it in radiohead too, i think there are more modern and better solutions

the future is now, old man

Spider-verse... role madness with soup kill to shut everyone up about it.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:30 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:51 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:08 am I claimed and everything and then I went to use my power and Nanook was like “no that’s not what I meant”
I’m still confused why you thought it would work that way
The words said “you may kill Steve” or whoever. They didn’t say I had to know who Steve was.

I believe I was "Steve"...

ohhhhhhhhhh yeah baby!

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:48 pm why did lc get 5 votes

i honestly was expecting i would just be voted out

Oh hi

Epi, Nanook, Hally, Arete, all vanished for the end, content with their votes on me.

[VOTE: hally] aubergine

I don't know why I expected anyone to agree with my case. I don't think I've ever made a case that anyone has agreed with. I should be used to it.

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:44 pm Awww she voted LC.

I guess that's ok.

Not if you're town.

I don't like how Arete voted me and vanished 40 minutes before the poll was done.

I don't like how Hally voted me and vanished an hour and a half before the poll was done.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:36 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:24 am 112, who is mafia?

You've accused me but you haven't voted for me.
I don't like this prod from Epi. I don't think accusing someone without voting is suspicious, but I feel like Epi is saying-not-saying that it is.
Oh come I had a whole argument with Michelle about voting and sussing thing....

Okay, what was the conclusion from that argument?

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:27 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:57 pm it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy
112 did the same with tsp btw

This would align well with my latest theory.

Hi Chan!

Never mind, it's to Hally. Sorry.

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:16 pm "This isn't a ploy, I really believe this."

"Actually, never mind"

Wait, is this your reactions to me?

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:13 pm What is happening with this vote count?

Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:09 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:08 pm
112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:07 pm [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
I don't think this will get you much cred with me if he flips bad, just so you know.
If.

Did you want a 'when'?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:59 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:58 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:54 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm

By my hand. Nobody (but me) was voting 112 before today.
And now you are OMGUS voting me instead. Now that it's real.
What was my Day 2 vote of you?
Ill-supported and OMGUSsy.
And, if I suspected you in a manner that was not "OMGUSsy," what would that look like?
It would be more than "Long Con knows me better than this". Like, dude, I didn't even expect to see you in a Mafia game again, and suddenly you're subbing in. You expect me to place you in a category of "Oh, of course he doesn't want to be here and he has no time, and he looks at screens all day, and he'd rather be with his family" and put you in a special little place where you can't be suspected? You want everyone to believe that you ACTUALLY expected that to be my angle of approaching you? Just me as well.

Sorry, friend, but that is 100% bullshit.
None of that tells me why I can't suspect you.

"OMGUS" is weak ass shit that ultimately stems from "I said you were bad first. Therefore you can't say I'm bad." It has no basis in reason.

I think you're annoyed that I subbed in and named you as mafia when up until this point, things were going clean for you.

Everything you said here is wrong.

I didn't tell you that you can't suspect me, I told you what your suspicion looks like.

Your definition is incorrect. OMGUS is that you suspect me BECAUSE I suspect you. And let's not get all highbrow "basis in reason" here - this is what is happening, here and now. This isn't a philosophy debate.

I'm not annoyed at all. Things don't go clean for me, ever. Due to my early-slanking playstyle, I am almost never in any agreed-upon towncore, and this game is no different. Your suspicion was a smirk at best.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:07 pm [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

I don't think this will get you much cred with me if he flips bad, just so you know.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:59 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:58 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:54 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:26 pm Don't understand. 112 is already in trouble.
By my hand. Nobody (but me) was voting 112 before today.
And now you are OMGUS voting me instead. Now that it's real.
What was my Day 2 vote of you?
Ill-supported and OMGUSsy.
And, if I suspected you in a manner that was not "OMGUSsy," what would that look like?

It would be more than "Long Con knows me better than this". Like, dude, I didn't even expect to see you in a Mafia game again, and suddenly you're subbing in. You expect me to place you in a category of "Oh, of course he doesn't want to be here and he has no time, and he looks at screens all day, and he'd rather be with his family" and put you in a special little place where you can't be suspected? You want everyone to believe that you ACTUALLY expected that to be my angle of approaching you? Just me as well.

Sorry, friend, but that is 100% bullshit.

Actually, [mention]Arete[/mention], after Epi voted me, I wanted to look at his ISO to see what actual reasons he had expressed, because I recalled only the OMGUS. I noticed that he had a great deal of focus on 112, with much more "evidence" presented. This looked like a suspicious connection, so I cross-referenced with dunya's treatment of 112, and it looked a lot more like a team is possible there.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:54 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:26 pm Don't understand. 112 is already in trouble.
By my hand. Nobody (but me) was voting 112 before today.
And now you are OMGUS voting me instead. Now that it's real.
What was my Day 2 vote of you?

Ill-supported and OMGUSsy.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:26 pm Don't understand. 112 is already in trouble.
By my hand. Nobody (but me) was voting 112 before today.

And now you are OMGUS voting me instead. Now that it's real.

The dunya one in the post above.

<---- use for future ref.

This is screaming at me right now.

Looking at dunya and 112. dunya pushes on 112 all day 1, and leaves her vote there despite it being a vanity wagon at the time. I believe this is distancing from a teammate. She drops little tidbits like the following two posts:

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:35 pm i also don't believe that post where hally saw 112's scum game on here and called her play itt as spontaneous or looser. i did not get that impression from her iso at all, just the opposite. would be interesting to see what hally's role is if 112 flips mafia. <---- use for future ref.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:32 pm
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:27 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:20 pm
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:17 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:16 pm so im looking at michelle's iso. how did she go from having good feelings about me from the last time i posted to...bad feelings about me?
Cause she's a wolf.
can you link me to why as im sure you have a reason posted but forgive me for not being up to date (im trying to stay current and say down with ketchup, but happy to iso people)
I won't bother linking because I've said various things throughout the thread but haven't gone and made like one big wallpost on him or anything. But the first thing that set me off was him pre-announcing that he was going to play differently this game. And then a bunch of times I felt like what he was saying didn't feel genuine. I got really set off by him townreading Arete early for what looked like nothing to me and that he couldn't articulate why. And I didn't like him locktowning tony and trying to lynch lhf instead.

But I dunno. He looks really genuine at the moment. Feeling like I could have misjudged.
i am confused

@tedxtr why wont you vote 112?

...intended to implicate Hally and tedxtr if 112 gets chopped.

The team is Epignosis and 112.

Don't understand. 112 is already in trouble.

Epignosis' reason for suspecting me is mostly or all OMGUS.

Epignosis has a much larger volume of 112 suspicion. BIG case, drawing out many points.

112 is in trouble; Epignosis votes for Long Con.

Arete wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:58 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I kind of feel like Tony's EoD2 points to a wolf being up as a wagon and I don't think their last second EoD1 vote is clearing

will switch back if wagons keep being 112/Hally

Tony is smiling up in mafia heaven.

Nope.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:18 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:11 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:10 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:09 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:30 pm It would be cool if people I think are town (ash) could stop scumreading other people I think are town (tsp)

Kthx
if i ask why you’re so sure tony is town, would that be a fruitful endeavor or nah?
Probably not tbh

He just...he seems the same as past games we’ve played together, including ones where I very quickly and correctly called him town. Idk. He just has a feel, idk how to explain it
have you seen him as mafia ever?
I’ve done my research yeah

Also not sure why the “have you seen him mafia?” caveat applies to TSP but not tutu?
dunno. why is that important?

If one player in this quote is Tony's teammate, who is it?

Never mind, damn no linki.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:22 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:20 pm Like... I don't see why Hally doesn't vote Tony or 112 day 1.
I can see why Hally doesn't vote for 112 Day 1. 112 had one vote.

Who voted T. Haven first?

Nanook?

Four hours left in the day though, so I would jump over to a Nanook or Epignosis wagon. Or even Arete.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine I'll trust my past instincts. This is where I land.

I don't want to vote for 112 or Hally.

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:58 pm Gonna be very interesting to see where LC decides to land.

Ok, I'll decide now. Gimme some moments.

Is "lack claire" a meme now?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:38 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:36 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:33 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:29 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:22 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:19 pm And I keep really wanting to suspect tedxtr, but apparently his Tony stuff was spot on and so he isn't a candidate either.
something tells me you won't have to worry about that
Why not?
I'm not making it to F3 unless one of the scums are either Poison or 112.
Or Ash?
i'm probably the most lack claire on the TSP wagon

if I go to F3 then it means I was wrong on one of my reads that I didn't show skepticism towards, really not that complicated

Oh, it's about your reads and how fallible you are. Ok.

112 could easily get chopped today. I don't think I understand your angle here.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:33 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:29 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:22 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:19 pm And I keep really wanting to suspect tedxtr, but apparently his Tony stuff was spot on and so he isn't a candidate either.
something tells me you won't have to worry about that
Why not?
I'm not making it to F3 unless one of the scums are either Poison or 112.

Or Ash?

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:28 pm [VOTE: nook] aubergine

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:22 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:19 pm And I keep really wanting to suspect tedxtr, but apparently his Tony stuff was spot on and so he isn't a candidate either.
something tells me you won't have to worry about that

Why not?

112 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:21 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:16 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:12 pm
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:11 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:09 pm ted, ash, long con team actually

book it

accepting high fives
And you're voting wilgy because...?
It was to lure you into this trap.

Only scum would go '...?'

You've been got.
i dont understand but I accept the validity of this because it suits my purposes
tony, we arm-in-arm

not gonna let you die here pal

there's too much living left for you to do

get angry imo. tell the thread how bad they are for voting you. they gotta see the emotion else they not going to budge

Is this how a teammate talks to a teammate in the thread?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:24 am 112, who is mafia?

You've accused me but you haven't voted for me.

I don't like this prod from Epi. I don't think accusing someone without voting is suspicious, but I feel like Epi is saying-not-saying that it is.

And I keep really wanting to suspect tedxtr, but apparently his Tony stuff was spot on and so he isn't a candidate either.

That said, I don't want to vote Poison or Ash. They're not on the table for me.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:16 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:15 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:08 am So it's not LC, not Nanook, not Vulgard. Not going to chop Dunya or Arete. Everyone else fair game?
Is there a scummate in this list? GTH I'd say yes.
Yes, but is it Nook saving Hally or is it you on a 'safe' wagon?

I feel the same low degree of safety with any vote.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:15 pmwat if it's nanook

No one wants to consider it, and I don't know why.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:14 pm Hally voting 112 means they aren't w/w right?

That would imply that either the lead wagon is incorrect or I am (which is clearly an impossibility because I'm never wrong)... What is the line here? is Hally being saved or are they lynching scum?

That is the question, isn't it? Or maybe 112 and Hally are both town.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:08 am So it's not LC, not Nanook, not Vulgard. Not going to chop Dunya or Arete. Everyone else fair game?

Is there a scummate in this list? GTH I'd say yes.

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