Escape From Russia [GAME OVER]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

yea sorry everyone, forgot this game was happening and I won't have time to catch up on these posts.

Catchup is overrated, just pick a page and cold read everyone who posted on it based on that page then never reassess imo

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

yea sorry everyone, forgot this game was happening and I won't have time to catch up on these posts.

why am i being voted as a 0 poster lul

Cause you’re a zero poster

[112]

michelle feels right but also feels wrong

never lynch there imo

[TonyStarkPrime]

caught up.
I want to see more of our most excellent friend, but don't we all?
Who else. Tutuu maybe wolfy. Still no take on Ted, but do I ever have a take on ted? No vibes from poison. I think Vul and Nanook are both bleeding town, then hally probably.

why is tutuu wolfy?

I dunno. Feels different? Maybe I’m wrong, Tutuu was doing math and that’s cool.

[TonyStarkPrime]

sorry guys, i was feeling pretty lousy and turns out i had some food poisoning and im still a little out of it but im here

gth reads without reading the thread, but a few tone-posts from each player here we go

112 - w
Arete - t
Ash Lael - w
DrWilgy - t
Hally - w
Long Con - t
Michelle - w
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - t
Poison Chan - t
tedxtr - w
TonyStarkPrime - t
TripleHaven - t
tutuu - t
Vulgard - t

my poe is
112
ash
hally
michelle
ted

i wanna say my strongest town reads are nanook and longcon tbh. my weakest wolf read is ted, so i will not vote for him until day 3 at least.

the person i think most likely could swing w from my t reads is vulgard for possible tmi, but i will eventually read up (or not) see what he has to offer.

high poster hally in a vacuum should be town, but i felt like she was gaslighting us with questions and content which she doesn't really build from. like they're prods and questions which she doesn't really care about one way or the other.

don't really know much about tsp, except he didn't like one of my posts and i like that reaction. no idea if triplehaven has posted yet, i'll get there.

wilgy im giving a soul town read to.

The bolded is always a weird thing to think about. I think because Dunya expressed it directly here maybe it's more likely to come from town? Level 1 is it means w!dunya because t!dunya gets mad at me for an incorrect read, but I don't think Dunya plays like that.
It's a decent looking poe though. Neither of arete or vulgard. I think scum who's skimming would throw one in.

Also, TR on LC. Spicy.

I'll move my vote for now.

it beats me that TSP would clear dunya off one post and especially for this reason, he's also hedging massively, even though the mentality behind the post is supposed to reflect "I think Dunya is town"

this post I really batted an eye upon seeing

Vote move not town read

[TonyStarkPrime]

Though maybe tr

[TonyStarkPrime]

also, really? "I think scum who's skimming would throw one of these two people in, therefore dunya's town"?

Yeah and

[TonyStarkPrime]

Like am I wrong

[TonyStarkPrime]

Find a hole in my logic I dare you

[Ash Lael]

Ted: Tony is hedgy.

Tony: No I’m not. Or am I?

[TonyStarkPrime]

@TonyStarkPrime can you link a recent scum game on here?

Got Chu
viewtopic.php?f=106&t=1829

[Ash Lael]

Find a hole in my logic I dare you

The idea that scum would throw in one of Arete/Vulgard seems premised one them both in fact being town.

How do you know that’s the case?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Saw something about expecting an indie and 3 mafia

Do heists have indies? My experience with matrix setups are that they’re exclusively mafia vs town, is it different here?

G-Man had an (unfriendly) indie in the last heist in the series and I think the previous heists also had indies of various taste

[TonyStarkPrime]

Find a hole in my logic I dare you

The idea that scum would throw in one of Arete/Vulgard seems premised one them both in fact being town.

How do you know that’s the case?

Is either a wolf

[Ash Lael]

Find a hole in my logic I dare you

The idea that scum would throw in one of Arete/Vulgard seems premised one them both in fact being town.

How do you know that’s the case?

Is either a wolf

I don’t know. I don’t think Vulgard is, I’m still not sure about Arete.

[Ash Lael]

Again, why are you you assuming they’re both town?

Or are you not assuming?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Again, why are you you assuming they’re both town?

Or are you not assuming?

Wolves probably always SR Arete in either case, I think, or at least express doubts. If both town they don't care but probably know that Arete, despite earlier signs, is the easier mischop.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Find a hole in my logic I dare you

The idea that scum would throw in one of Arete/Vulgard seems premised one them both in fact being town.

How do you know that’s the case?

Is either a wolf

I don’t know. I don’t think Vulgard is, I’m still not sure about Arete.

proof of last conjecture

[Ash Lael]

Again, why are you you assuming they’re both town?

Or are you not assuming?

Wolves probably always SR Arete in either case, I think, or at least express doubts. If both town they don't care but probably know that Arete, despite earlier signs, is the easier mischop.

This makes no sense. There’s no reason why wolf dunya has to scum read wolf Arete if that’s the world. Sure, maybe it could happen but there’s no reason at all it HAS to happen.

[Ash Lael]

Find a hole in my logic I dare you

The idea that scum would throw in one of Arete/Vulgard seems premised one them both in fact being town.

How do you know that’s the case?

Is either a wolf

I don’t know. I don’t think Vulgard is, I’m still not sure about Arete.

proof of last conjecture

Lol.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Again, why are you you assuming they’re both town?

Or are you not assuming?

Wolves probably always SR Arete in either case, I think, or at least express doubts. If both town they don't care but probably know that Arete, despite earlier signs, is the easier mischop.

This makes no sense. There’s no reason why wolf dunya has to scum read wolf Arete if that’s the world. Sure, maybe it could happen but there’s no reason at all it HAS to happen.

Well, I think it would have happened.

[Ash Lael]

Find a hole in my logic I dare you

The idea that scum would throw in one of Arete/Vulgard seems premised one them both in fact being town.

How do you know that’s the case?

Is either a wolf

I don’t know. I don’t think Vulgard is, I’m still not sure about Arete.

proof of last conjecture

Me saying "I'm still not sure about Arete" = I'm a wolf.

Dunya saying:

the person i think most likely could swing w from my t reads is vulgard for possible tmi, but i will eventually read up (or not) see what he has to offer.

= Dunya town.

Because a wolf would definitely scum read one of the two. Regardless of what the teams are. And my post can be stretched to be a scum read and Dunya's can't.

That's not real Tony logic.

[Ash Lael]

[VOTE: TonyStark Prime] aubergine

[Ash Lael]

Tony/Michelle/X. Easy game.

[Arete]

Nanook, I actually agree. That has been the pattern before. I honestly wouldn't blame you if you misyeeted me for that reason.
I just... don't want TownRete to feel bad? And I would also like to kill a mafia day 1, but that's another thing and everyone would say that.

...fuck are you actually a villager

[Arete]

[mention]Vulgard[/mention]

can you ping me next time you're in the thread

we keep missing each other because of time zones + school and I think I'll have better luck finding a post that was Written By A Villager if we can talk in real time

[Ash Lael]

Nanook, I actually agree. That has been the pattern before. I honestly wouldn't blame you if you misyeeted me for that reason.
I just... don't want TownRete to feel bad? And I would also like to kill a mafia day 1, but that's another thing and everyone would say that.

...fuck are you actually a villager

Yeah you're both villagers and Tony has TMI'd it.

[112]

my internet keeps going down

[Arete]

on page 8, going to take a break and catch up later

could vulgard be any more obviously scum?

112 is probably town for how they expressed this take + their general willingness to go against one of the most widely TR'd players as if it were self-evident

this read is definitely not a product of my own doubts about Vul

what are your doubts about vul?

when Vul is a villager, he's usually a shining beacon of towniness such that I can basically just open his posts and start scrolling them like 'this post was written by a villager, this post was written by a villager, this post was written by a villager...' and I can't really do that here

also his posts are excessively formal in a way that's not consistent with how he normally writes, which makes me think they might be fabricated and he's trying to make them sound more ?legitimate? or something. not weighting this one nearly as much as the 'his posts were not written by a villager' thing because I know English isn't his first language, and also he's an English major, which could maybe explain it

interesting. i feel like he is a shining beacon of towniness and am curious why you think he’s not. do you have more specific issues with his posts?

it's like

when he's town, he's like a lighthouse, and when he's scum, he's like a lantern

and right now people are like 'he's a bright light, so he must be town'

but he's a brighter light as town

this metaphor is probably really dumb

with regards to his specific posts, his posts feel relatively "shallow" compared to the reads he normally makes as town, and there's also the fact that his posts sound like the sort of essays I write for class when I haven't actually read the book and want to sound smart (they do not normally sound like that)

[TonyStarkPrime]

Find a hole in my logic I dare you

The idea that scum would throw in one of Arete/Vulgard seems premised one them both in fact being town.

How do you know that’s the case?

Is either a wolf

I don’t know. I don’t think Vulgard is, I’m still not sure about Arete.

proof of last conjecture

Me saying "I'm still not sure about Arete" = I'm a wolf.

Dunya saying:

the person i think most likely could swing w from my t reads is vulgard for possible tmi, but i will eventually read up (or not) see what he has to offer.

= Dunya town.

Because a wolf would definitely scum read one of the two. Regardless of what the teams are. And my post can be stretched to be a scum read and Dunya's can't.

That's not real Tony logic.

real Tony logic knows no human bounds

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It would be cool if people I think are town (ash) could stop scumreading other people I think are town (tsp)

Kthx

[Arete]

feeling pretty good about:

112
Nanook
Ash

Hally*

feeling actively bad about:

Vul
maybe Long Con? their scumclaim post felt kind of like they were claiming scum to fit in with the other scumclaimers

*the fact that I am feeling good about them is uncorrelated with their actual alignment

lol @ my disclaimer

can you talk about 112 and ash more? what do you like about them?

112's early pressure on you gave me generally good vibes and I liked the thing where they reentered the thread and started heavily scrutinizing Vulgard, I think given Vul's position in the thread scum wouldn't be interested in tunnelling him regardless of his alignment and I liked the angle 112 took when talking about how he was repeating his reads a lot, it felt like an angle that scum wouldn't be likely to think of

for Ash I remember thinking a bunch of his thoughts felt legitimate but I don't actually remember why off the top of my head

[Arete]

spicy take: poison is wolfing

Spicy take: you should probably explain your reads, especially if they are considered controversial in the threadstate.

Spoiler: show

this post was written by a villager

Spoiler: show

I think

[Ash Lael]

It would be cool if people I think are town (ash) could stop scumreading other people I think are town (tsp)

Kthx

Note the way this is phrased. Tony is also calling me a wolf. But it's me who has to change.

Tony/Michelle/Nanook. Game solved.

[Arete]

You'd have a field day with a particular player on our home site. They FPS at least 20 times a day, make fake reads and pushes, and fluff in combination with real (or fake) reads.
All of the above both as town and mafia.

Anyway. I think I understand why dunya's mafia game is regarded as very strong. She strikes me as the type of player who can be a force to be reckoned with.

uhhhhhhh

[TonyStarkPrime]

It would be cool if people I think are town (ash) could stop scumreading other people I think are town (tsp)

Kthx

Note the way this is phrased. Tony is also calling me a wolf. But it's me who has to change.

Tony/Michelle/Nanook. Game solved.

this is bad news for the tony nanook f3

[Arete]

How good is LC's scumgame?

pretty good. we caught him last game almost immediately but hes had lots of success as scum typically. i lean town on him atm

Then I'm not going to clear him until further notice. I also lean town, but I'm not going any further than that.
Dumb question; do the role colors mean anything regarding player strength? I'm accustomed to the differently-colored players on a forum generally being quite experienced.

no they have nothing to do with player strength. they denote different groups

green like you and me is just a regular user

blue is a game facilitator/mod

cyan is the community team, which is kinda a mod

dark teal is admin

bright red is graphics team (though i believe its just lc)

every other color just means that the person is currently hosting some kind of game

I feel like I should note here that colors on our homesite don't denote player strength either

otherwise I wouldn't have a color :wowee:

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It would be cool if people I think are town (ash) could stop scumreading other people I think are town (tsp)

Kthx

Note the way this is phrased. Tony is also calling me a wolf. But it's me who has to change.

Tony/Michelle/Nanook. Game solved.

I’m less sure of you

[TonyStarkPrime]

homegrown tomatas homegrown tomatas whatd life be without homegrown tomatas

[Hally]

yea sorry everyone, forgot this game was happening and I won't have time to catch up on these posts.

hi trip, glad you’re here!

[Hally]

michelle feels right but also feels wrong

never lynch there imo

please elaborate

[Hally]

caught up.
I want to see more of our most excellent friend, but don't we all?
Who else. Tutuu maybe wolfy. Still no take on Ted, but do I ever have a take on ted? No vibes from poison. I think Vul and Nanook are both bleeding town, then hally probably.

why is tutuu wolfy?

I dunno. Feels different? Maybe I’m wrong, Tutuu was doing math and that’s cool.

different how?

[Hally]

@TonyStarkPrime can you link a recent scum game on here?

Got Chu
viewtopic.php?f=106&t=1829

ok after skimming this i feel like i shouldn’t tr you anymore because you do the same kind of off the cuff posting as scum. rip

[Hally]

Find a hole in my logic I dare you

The idea that scum would throw in one of Arete/Vulgard seems premised one them both in fact being town.

How do you know that’s the case?

ooh its getting spicy

[Hally]

It would be cool if people I think are town (ash) could stop scumreading other people I think are town (tsp)

Kthx

if i ask why you’re so sure tony is town, would that be a fruitful endeavor or nah?

[Hally]

feeling pretty good about:

112
Nanook
Ash

Hally*

feeling actively bad about:

Vul
maybe Long Con? their scumclaim post felt kind of like they were claiming scum to fit in with the other scumclaimers

*the fact that I am feeling good about them is uncorrelated with their actual alignment

lol @ my disclaimer

can you talk about 112 and ash more? what do you like about them?

112's early pressure on you gave me generally good vibes and I liked the thing where they reentered the thread and started heavily scrutinizing Vulgard, I think given Vul's position in the thread scum wouldn't be interested in tunnelling him regardless of his alignment and I liked the angle 112 took when talking about how he was repeating his reads a lot, it felt like an angle that scum wouldn't be likely to think of

for Ash I remember thinking a bunch of his thoughts felt legitimate but I don't actually remember why off the top of my head

noted, ty

[TonyStarkPrime]

caught up.
I want to see more of our most excellent friend, but don't we all?
Who else. Tutuu maybe wolfy. Still no take on Ted, but do I ever have a take on ted? No vibes from poison. I think Vul and Nanook are both bleeding town, then hally probably.

why is tutuu wolfy?

I dunno. Feels different? Maybe I’m wrong, Tutuu was doing math and that’s cool.

different how?

too early to tell Id say

[Hally]

It would be cool if people I think are town (ash) could stop scumreading other people I think are town (tsp)

Kthx

Note the way this is phrased. Tony is also calling me a wolf. But it's me who has to change.

Tony/Michelle/Nanook. Game solved.

not nook. tony possible. michelle more possible

also ash is a villager imo

[Arete]

Actually, come to think of it, this could just be veiled OMGUS. Michelle, when you get here, can you explain this in more detail, like Hally asked you to?

for what it's worth, I was informed in the finale that she does that as town too

[TonyStarkPrime]

@TonyStarkPrime can you link a recent scum game on here?

Got Chu
viewtopic.php?f=106&t=1829

ok after skimming this i feel like i shouldn’t tr you anymore because you do the same kind of off the cuff posting as scum. rip

Ironically this is the opposite reason for ted SRing me:P