The Syndicate

Yes, but you're saying that the person she protected is possible scum when they should probably be cleared in that world.

Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:44 am Yo I got the job, stress over, here until 11:35am est

Congratulations!!! That's awesome!

Deli wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:23 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:14 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:12 pm Mac has been wolfy af, I thought I had another reason to wagon him and then realized I completely misread the thread and it became irrelevant. I still think he is >rand a wolf but tbh I don’t think we should lunch there today probably.
who should we lunch then, and more importantly, why?
I DON’T KNOW. Congrats Syndicate, you’ve broken a Deli

I mean maybe we resolve the wagons and lunch falcon, but I actually think he has been villagery today in tone,

and Marmot has spiraled downward.

Creature seems fine for lunch, but his tone has also been fine today.

The only thing stopping me from saying 100% Syn is that if it is some kind of softed claim we always need to lunch outside of it.

Gavial also seems fine to lunch, they were wolfy d1 the entire time and haven’t improved at all on tone.

A gavial/wiml/Syn world actually exists tbh. Wiml shielding both of them now that it seems mechanically he is likely clear hmm and tbh not really seeing much gamesolving from wiml as of late, just quips to clear ppl.

Esooa claims that she protected Wiml last night. Syn claimed it's a lie. In that world, how are Wiml and Syn scum, but esooa isn't?

Oh I forgot. [VOTE: Deli] aubergine

Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:31 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:29 pm falcon is still mafia. I have nothing else to say

oh well, I also am here to say igno is bussing him
I need to go back and read or you can just explain the case a little more, and who is their third?

Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:18 pm Falcon > nook for lunch, but nook hasn’t really actually done /anything/, wolfy or otherwise iirc so

Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:13 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:10 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:06 pm @Esooa is Kami mafia?
RN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read
Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment ime
Besides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?
i'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.

Villa
Deli

Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?

Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature

Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon

tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O

I want to yeet this read progression. Reading back to Day 1, Deli had a lot to say about a number of different players, though very little to say about falcon. Regardless, falcon became Deli's top scumread when Deli made a list with the reasoning of "falcon had wolfy posts".

Deli wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:29 am [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

I’m happy to go falcon, can we just make sure we are not tie-ing up the wagons? Like someone move from igno please

His vote came at a time when falcon was ahead 4-2-2 over igno and Wiml. The thing that bothers me about this post is the Deli seems more interested in breaking a tie here than yeeting falcon over Wiml or igno. What I'm reading in the tone in this post is that Deli didn't care who was yeeted.

Actually, I'll put Gav in the townpile too.

My problem is that everyone not named esooa or hollowbutt looks scummy, and I'm having a hard time differentiating townies messing around and wolves messing around.

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:58 pm Deli, Marmot, and Gavial sure are interested in mechanics

And?

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:46 pm “Everyone has but 50 posts per game day. Flagrant disregard of this post limit will result in a modkill.”

This mean Mac Mod Killed?

I wouldn't call it a flagrant disregard, he went one post over.

Mac you've already exceeded your post cap for the day (that was your 51st post)

Yeah this game is probably just a town loss.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:02 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:35 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:05 pm oh yeah,

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine mafia
You like Mac's reads, and they make sense...he has me as Town, how does this figure into your voting?
If Falcon is mafia this post clears me.

@MacDougall can you explain why you remembered this particular Day 1 post and why it clears you if falcon is mafia?

Deli wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:10 pm Marmot is certainly not for lunch today, but I'd say d1 was +ev imo, today has been much less compelling.

I'm ruminating on how to steer this thread in a more productive direction in as few posts as possible.

Also no, please never eat the marmots. Feeding them is ok.

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:18 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:14 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:16 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:08 pm One would think that if the gamestate were "wolf dominated", as creature put it, that it would be relatively easy to say who at least some of the wolves are dominating the game.
It's apathy-dominated and some wolves bathing on half-assed pushes.

I don't feel apathetic, but I'm feeling extremely reserved in terms of participating in a long discussion about the game due to the post cap. Since we don't have the ability to rely on a lot of chatting, or even volume-clearing people, I'm relying more on mech information for voting atm (and when I have more time, I'll dive more into ISOs).

That said, esooa's claim and Syn's response is the only mechy thing we have at the moment.
This is an amazing cop-out

Why's that?

I believe your contributions today are closer to lolcatting than they are to solving.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:16 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:08 pm One would think that if the gamestate were "wolf dominated", as creature put it, that it would be relatively easy to say who at least some of the wolves are dominating the game.
It's apathy-dominated and some wolves bathing on half-assed pushes.

I don't feel apathetic, but I'm feeling extremely reserved in terms of participating in a long discussion about the game due to the post cap. Since we don't have the ability to rely on a lot of chatting, or even volume-clearing people, I'm relying more on mech information for voting atm (and when I have more time, I'll dive more into ISOs).

That said, esooa's claim and Syn's response is the only mechy thing we have at the moment.

I'm surprised we're spending so many of our limited posts bickering and openwolfing. Can we please be more diligent with how we're using our posts?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:23 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:22 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:01 pm Esooa: hardclaims doc with a protections on Wiml

Syn: calls esooa a liar with nothing to back it up.

This makes for an easy vote.

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

I'm still curious to see if anything else comes of this. I thought Syn was a PR on Day 1 (and it's still possible he is). But his behavior has made me feel worse about him. I'm sheeping the person who claimed for now.
Esooa fake claims random things all the time. Syn also doesn't filter his thoughts when he's town.
literally when
You fake claim wolf in nearly every town game you play

This and that are not the same thing.

Joking about being a wolf as town is lol.

Claiming she prevented a nightkill when there was in fact a missing nightkill carries a lot more weight.

Either way, do you think she's fakeclaiming here? Is it AI?

Esooa: hardclaims doc with a protections on Wiml

Syn: calls esooa a liar with nothing to back it up.

This makes for an easy vote.

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

I'm still curious to see if anything else comes of this. I thought Syn was a PR on Day 1 (and it's still possible he is). But his behavior has made me feel worse about him. I'm sheeping the person who claimed for now.

Actually, Syn didn't push Wiml, he made a bunch of posts about other people, then dropped a vote on Wiml with no explanation.

I rescind my last statement.

Hmm

Actually, if the mafia nightkilled Wiml and failed. They would know that the kill failed wouldn't it? Why would Syn, as mafia, then enter the day with a strong push on Wiml if they're probably just going to be cleared?

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:15 pm enough people have showed up

being confirmed town is fun

I'm the doctor and I protected wiml. I can self target/consecutive target so I have no real qualms with claiming rn

Alright, you can have your points back.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:25 pm [VOTE: syn ] aubergine

HKs read is bad but he's handling it in a towny way. Syns read is just awful

I don't like this reaction. Esooa loses townie points.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:04 pm This is an awful point and if you're town you should feel bad.

This is mafia. This is a game. Why should someone ever feel bad for making a read that they don't know is incorrect.

[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:33 pm Personally I was surprised with the Igno!Green flip.
Also makes me believe potentially 2 scum were on the wagon and I suppose WimI would fit that spot.
Although I still think Syn is scum.

Nah, Syn is town.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:50 pm Mac and HK are my towncore

let's win this game gaymers

Nah, you are town.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:57 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:55 am If igno is a wolf, then falcon is probably town. Falcon looks like igno's top scumread, and imo, it doesn't look like distancing.
igno contested this, I've not seen the game they're talking about, but from my experience over ~3 scum games with them, they extremely commonly vote and wolf read their partners

I rescind that statement then (although technically igno isn't actually voting)

[VOTE: Ignoramus] aubergine

I kinda want to go igno now tbh.

Falcon has a 5-2 lead, he's the likely yeet atp.

If igno is a wolf, then falcon is probably town. Falcon looks like igno's top scumread, and imo, it doesn't look like distancing.

Deli wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:42 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:35 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:34 am Ties are awful anyway, and they're especially awful in this format.

Pre-flip association. If falcon is scum, Gavial can also scum. He gave falcon an early townread and maintained it, has parked his vote on Syn all day, and is currently trying to get Syn yeeted. He even admitted just a moment ago that the wagon on falcon is pure.

Do you still TR falcon, @Gavial
Who's scum if I'm town?
Towny post

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:41 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:34 am Ties are awful anyway, and they're especially awful in this format.

Pre-flip association. If falcon is scum, Gavial can also scum. He gave falcon an early townread and maintained it, has parked his vote on Syn all day, and is currently trying to get Syn yeeted. He even admitted just a moment ago that the wagon on falcon is pure.

Do you still TR falcon, @Gavial
Honestly the main reason I had TRing Falcon is no longer existent.
Wolfy post

Interesting

I think they're both reasonable posts, and both NAI lmfao. Actually, Gav's might be slightly townie.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:47 am I'm not sure if doing it constantly might be towny. In his two previous scum games he wasn't actually around EoD/didn't fight his chop at that time at least. I'm not sure if that's just not being in thread or he didn't want to. I think it's interesting this game where he's playing even less energetically than from his other games is when he's here EoD trying to not die. It's making me consider going igno at least

I can attest that in Elder Scrolls, he wasn't in scumchat either, and I believe was at work all day, the day he was yeeted.

He'd left his vote parked on me, his teammate, who was a competing wagon lol.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:35 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:34 am Ties are awful anyway, and they're especially awful in this format.

Pre-flip association. If falcon is scum, Gavial can also scum. He gave falcon an early townread and maintained it, has parked his vote on Syn all day, and is currently trying to get Syn yeeted. He even admitted just a moment ago that the wagon on falcon is pure.

Do you still TR falcon, @Gavial
Who's scum if I'm town?

Stop it with that question!!!!!

I don't really have an answer for that atm. Esooa is probably still town. HK is probably still town. Igno and Syn could still be scum. This is without giving it a lot of thought though.

Ties are awful anyway, and they're especially awful in this format.

Pre-flip association. If falcon is scum, Gavial can also scum. He gave falcon an early townread and maintained it, has parked his vote on Syn all day, and is currently trying to get Syn yeeted. He even admitted just a moment ago that the wagon on falcon is pure.

Do you still TR falcon, @Gavial

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:23 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:21 am Syn can be mafia too. I don't see a reason to TR him (and I'd love to hear why Mac does).
CFD Syn with me?

I'd consider it, but I feel better about chopping falcon atm.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:25 pm Pretty confident townreads

hollowkatt
Esooa
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Moderately confident townreads

falcon45ca
Syn

Not sure, kinda towny maybe

Creature
Gavial
Kami

Kinda scummy but I have a sense I might be reading these people wrong

Marmot
Deli

Just wolfy

Wiml
ignoramus

This is midway through Day 1, but falcon and Syn don't belong this high up.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:20 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:18 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:57 am This looks opportunistic to me. It's not your argument per se, it's the timing and motivation. It feels like you're carrying Essoa's flag, her talking points on my slot.

I ISO'd every player except for you and Gavial yesterday, and esooa took issue with my skipping of those two, so my initial "I've finally ISO'd falcon was a response to her.

It took me only 22 seconds too.

There's something wrong with "carrying esooa's flag" or having similar talking points as her? Imo, having similar reasons for scumreading someone is going to happen.
Sure, I agree with that. They also can be ways for wolves to push wagons, no?

Like I've said, if I'm mislynched, it is what it is. I only ask town to look at my wagon, cuz I can guarantee you it'd not all town

They can be. Do you think that's what I'm doing?

Syn can be mafia too. I don't see a reason to TR him (and I'd love to hear why Mac does).

You're probably aware esooa, but you only have 3 posts left. Wiml, Deli, and Mac are fewer than 10 away from cap as well.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:57 am This looks opportunistic to me. It's not your argument per se, it's the timing and motivation. It feels like you're carrying Essoa's flag, her talking points on my slot.

I ISO'd every player except for you and Gavial yesterday, and esooa took issue with my skipping of those two, so my initial "I've finally ISO'd falcon was a response to her.

It took me only 22 seconds too.

There's something wrong with "carrying esooa's flag" or having similar talking points as her? Imo, having similar reasons for scumreading someone is going to happen.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:42 am Yeah, but I'm town.

It's ok, I'm an easy push this game and I'm ok with it. Just look at who pushes me and why. Looking at things right now, I'd say Marmot is looking the most oppurtunistic.

What about my push is opportunistic?

Deli wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:15 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:45 am Deli, I might have missed it but I'm interested in your read on Marmot! Would you mind explaining it some more?
Basically Marmot isn’t pinging me at all, they seem game solving and their reads list lacked agenda vibes. Maybe I’m biased because they had me at the top of their list and their avatar is cute— if I’m wrong that’s going to be my excuse and it can’t really be helped

:3

When I said "The thing is, I don't think falcon is that suspicious", suspicious should probably be replaced with paranoid there. Silly English language.

On one hand Falcon has spent numerous posts telling people he's town. Specifically, 12 of his 27 posts have included some allusion to his own alignment.

On the other hand, he threw shade at both Creature and hollowbutt for "having too many townreads".

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:44 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:43 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:35 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:05 pm oh yeah,

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine mafia
You like Mac's reads, and they make sense...he has me as Town, how does this figure into your voting?
do you have anything else to say?
On the subject of you scum leaning me? Not at the moment

This particular interaction with esooa looks like he's trying to have a little fun. He hints that Mac's townread of him doesn't make sense. Esooa responds with a good question, to which falcon just falls kinda flat.

Esooa clarified it later, what she was asking, to which falcon made his statement about Creature.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:48 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:46 pm no about literally anything in the thread
Yeah, Creature has way too many players in his town list

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:30 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:26 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:19 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:48 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:46 pm no about literally anything in the thread
Yeah, Creature has way too many players in his town list
Am I wrong on one of my them?
Maybe? I don't know, I was only told my alignment
Do you disagree on any of them?

I currently feel fairly good about the ones I listed and having a list of players you don't want to lynch is optimal here, even if you end up needing to reevaluate them later.
I don't have enough info to say at the moment. Nobody in your list immediately stood out to me, I'm just a lot more suspicious than trusting early in the game

The thing is, I don't think falcon is that suspicious. I went back and read AIM Mafia (falcon's last town game), and falcon had four townreads before he had any semblance of a scumread.

His arguments are half-hearted, and he's quickly lost interest in them when put under pressure. He's spent more time discussing his own alignment than other people's alignments. This looks like a wolf.

Finally read his ISO and I agree.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

There are three Elendil right?

I am now accepting derpclears.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:25 pm Pretty confident townreads

hollowkatt
Esooa
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Moderately confident townreads

falcon45ca
Syn

Not sure, kinda towny maybe

Creature
Gavial
Kami

Kinda scummy but I have a sense I might be reading these people wrong

Marmot
Deli

Just wolfy

Wiml
ignoramus

Don't even bother trying to townread me, it's a waste of time and you'll conclude wolf anyway.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:07 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:48 am Esooa focusing on meta reads is towny for her (regardless of the accuracy of the read) and probably not partnered with falcon. Doubt she comes in this way as a wolf.

Generally she's also pushing the game in a good direction and that's town-indicative of her. Agree with her takes on Deli (and also that she pointed out Deli as being somebody likely to get mistakenly misread is accurate and I +1 that).
This statement has no basis of fact unless you have TMI.

This is a good observation, I support it.

Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:13 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:10 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:06 pm @Esooa is Kami mafia?
RN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read
Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment ime
Besides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?
i'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.

Villa
Deli

Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?

Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature

Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon

tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O

Tbh, your scumreads consist of standard Syndicate LHF and people that are easy to fake a scumread on, so that alone makes me disagree.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:19 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:16 am Observations thus far on players from reading their ISOs

Deli - Some of their posts are nuanced enough that I believe they come from town, specifically their esooa read. Additionally, it seems a number of people scumread Deli for defending Wiml early on, but that looks NAI to me. No issues there.

Kami - Short posts, but they seem very unafraid in tossing reads out there. It's a townlean for now, one I'll likely reconsider later or on future days.

Esooa - I like esooa's more recent posts more than her earlier ones. I think her agreement with Mac is very lacking, mainly because Mac provided 0 context for his reads, so agreeing with them is a big meh. But she seems to be making her own reads, including calling falcon mafia (which is actually not what Mac called him lol)

hollowbutt - I was torn on this one. On one hand, his posts look like ones he could believe in (I'm looking particularly at his argument with Deli about Deli's defense of Wiml). But this suspicion seems a little silly to me. Meta read on HK (yes I'm using a meta read, take that), in his last two wolf games, HK has created a heavy distancing with a partner on Day 1 (Invictus in Bluey Mafia, and Seanzie in Beelzebub). Wiml's reaction makes them look not paired based on HK's recent scum strategies, so I believe they are not W/W, but they could be any other combo. I'm going to give HK a slight townlean for now, mainly because I'm not ready to yeet him.

Wiml - I'm in agreement with a lot of others on this slot. His entrance into the game isn't very good, particular his comments about Gavial. That said, Wiml has a redeeming factor in that he's continued playing the game in a manner that seems unperturbed by the pressure, which I think is a mildly good look.

Syn - I don't recall a game where I was town and Syn was also playing (and he didn't sub in after I died), thus I can't recall a time where I've had to make an uninformed read on Syn. I'm not seeing anything yet that makes me townread him. GTH, mafia, but that's more to lack of readable content than to anything specifically scummy.

Nanook - Not out of his townrange or scumrange right now. Will reconsider on a future day.

ignoramus - Most of their ISO is fine, with the exception of this post. @ignoramus is there a reason you feel the need to force a scum read due to having a lack of them?

MacDougall - 0 scumreads so far. 2 3 townreads. Mac having 0 stated scumreads 24 hours into the day is a concern. He has made a vote, but it was a naked vote. Not a townread right now (but he could just be lazy).

Creature - One thing I really dislike about Creature thus far is their post saying ""I think I townread..." and two posts later saying "I currently feel fairly good". I have 2 issues here. 1) Creature uses two adverbs to describe the second opinion. 2) Nothing really happened to support such a confidence change. I don't mind a bunch of townreads early, but I see this a means of doubling down when being questioned about it since the reads began as soft ones.

I unfortunately have to run, so I'll get to Gavial and falcon later, but I'm going to drop a vote on Creature for now.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
Everything about this makes me gag.

A post cap of 50 forces some weird strats.

ignoramus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:33 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:16 am Observations thus far on players from reading their ISOs

Deli - Some of their posts are nuanced enough that I believe they come from town, specifically their esooa read. Additionally, it seems a number of people scumread Deli for defending Wiml early on, but that looks NAI to me. No issues there.

Kami - Short posts, but they seem very unafraid in tossing reads out there. It's a townlean for now, one I'll likely reconsider later or on future days.

Esooa - I like esooa's more recent posts more than her earlier ones. I think her agreement with Mac is very lacking, mainly because Mac provided 0 context for his reads, so agreeing with them is a big meh. But she seems to be making her own reads, including calling falcon mafia (which is actually not what Mac called him lol)

hollowbutt - I was torn on this one. On one hand, his posts look like ones he could believe in (I'm looking particularly at his argument with Deli about Deli's defense of Wiml). But this suspicion seems a little silly to me. Meta read on HK (yes I'm using a meta read, take that), in his last two wolf games, HK has created a heavy distancing with a partner on Day 1 (Invictus in Bluey Mafia, and Seanzie in Beelzebub). Wiml's reaction makes them look not paired based on HK's recent scum strategies, so I believe they are not W/W, but they could be any other combo. I'm going to give HK a slight townlean for now, mainly because I'm not ready to yeet him.

Wiml - I'm in agreement with a lot of others on this slot. His entrance into the game isn't very good, particular his comments about Gavial. That said, Wiml has a redeeming factor in that he's continued playing the game in a manner that seems unperturbed by the pressure, which I think is a mildly good look.

Syn - I don't recall a game where I was town and Syn was also playing (and he didn't sub in after I died), thus I can't recall a time where I've had to make an uninformed read on Syn. I'm not seeing anything yet that makes me townread him. GTH, mafia, but that's more to lack of readable content than to anything specifically scummy.

Nanook - Not out of his townrange or scumrange right now. Will reconsider on a future day.

ignoramus - Most of their ISO is fine, with the exception of this post. @ignoramus is there a reason you feel the need to force a scum read due to having a lack of them?

MacDougall - 0 scumreads so far. 2 3 townreads. Mac having 0 stated scumreads 24 hours into the day is a concern. He has made a vote, but it was a naked vote. Not a townread right now (but he could just be lazy).

Creature - One thing I really dislike about Creature thus far is their post saying ""I think I townread..." and two posts later saying "I currently feel fairly good". I have 2 issues here. 1) Creature uses two adverbs to describe the second opinion. 2) Nothing really happened to support such a confidence change. I don't mind a bunch of townreads early, but I see this a means of doubling down when being questioned about it since the reads began as soft ones.

I unfortunately have to run, so I'll get to Gavial and falcon later, but I'm going to drop a vote on Creature for now.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
I have no idea what you're talking about?? I didn't force any SRs, it's just that I have only two SRs rn so I've focused a lot on them
And very unrelated but I'm pretty sure Esooa's seen/been in a game with me where I did *not* bus my teammates and won. (or it was Wiml idk)
Planning to chill because today is a Saturday so you'll most likely catch me not solving/not caring

Your exact statement was

"I don't have much reasons to SR Falcon but I SR them so strongly because of the fact I only have two SRs"

It read to me like you had a strong scumread specifically because he was one of only two scumread. Did you mean something else? I also see no issue with having two scumreads, or even two weak scumreads.

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:53 pm @Marmot why of everyone in the game did you not ISO Gavial and Falcon who are probably the 2 most important people to ISO

I was mostly ISOing from lowest to highest poster via the post count list, and they were at the top.

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