The Fall of Númenor - Game Over!

[Deli]

@Esooa is Kami mafia?

RN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read

Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment ime

[Creature]

@Esooa is Kami mafia?

RN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read

Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment ime

Besides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?

[Deli]

@Esooa is Kami mafia?

RN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read

Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment ime

Besides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?

i'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.



Villa
Deli

Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?

Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature

Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon


tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O

[Esooa]

lmfao I love the "one time"

[MacDougall]

Hollowkatt doing exactly what they wolf read someone for lmao...

This isn't even scummy.

Lying about what happened is scummy and even if he wasn't being a hypocrite the read sucks to begin with. What deli did youc an actually say "this isn't even scummy"

Hypocrisy is not scummy.

[MacDougall]

@Esooa is Kami mafia?

RN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read

Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment ime

Besides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?

i'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.



Villa
Deli

Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?

Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature

Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon


tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O

Why do you have a question mark next to igno?

[MacDougall]

No silent voting and no way to quickly get an accurate vote count in a hammer game, rip

I think this is probably townie for Nanook.

[Gavial]

@Esooa is Kami mafia?

RN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read

Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment ime

Besides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?

i'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.



Villa
Deli

Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?

Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature

Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon


tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O

So you have any new case to bring up on me or are you basing it off of something someone has already said and if so which one would that be?
Also, I understand WamL
But why Marmot and Igno has Villa Leans.
Also why did you add a “?” At the end.
Are you unsure that you village read them?
Also you left out Syn. What’s your read on Syn?

[MacDougall]

Why is everyone town reading wiml?

[MacDougall]

I think Falcon is >rand town here.

[Gavial]

@Esooa is Kami mafia?

RN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read

Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment ime

Besides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?

i'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.



Villa
Deli

Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?

Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature

Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon


tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O

Why do you have a question mark next to igno?

Ha this goofball beat me to it!

[Creature]

@Esooa is Kami mafia?

RN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read

Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment ime

Besides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?

i'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.



Villa
Deli

Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?

Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature

Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon


tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O

Why do you townread Marmot and igno? I'm not satisfied with their content.

[MacDougall]

Also I am pretty sure I am the best Falcon reader on Earth so you should probably sheep that read.

[Esooa]

I think Falcon is >rand town here.

lol

[MacDougall]

I think we may be looking at wolf Gavial.

[MacDougall]

If my reads are good then esooa is >rand mafia also.

[Esooa]

If my reads are good then esooa is >rand mafia also.

good thing they're not ig

[MacDougall]

Esooa focusing on meta reads is towny for her (regardless of the accuracy of the read) and probably not partnered with falcon. Doubt she comes in this way as a wolf.

Generally she's also pushing the game in a good direction and that's town-indicative of her. Agree with her takes on Deli (and also that she pointed out Deli as being somebody likely to get mistakenly misread is accurate and I +1 that).

This statement has no basis of fact unless you have TMI.

[Creature]

Why is everyone town reading wiml?

Not sure on him. Some of his unpopular stances, like defending Gavial, seemed towny.

[MacDougall]

Fairly sure Wiml is wolfing though, and Esooa is town. Also think Wiml spewed Deli town.

[MacDougall]

Why is everyone town reading wiml?

Not sure on him. Some of his unpopular stances, like defending Gavial, seemed towny.

Audaciousness is a characteristic of a quality wolf. It's not really a towntell for someone like wiml.

[Esooa]

Esooa focusing on meta reads is towny for her (regardless of the accuracy of the read) and probably not partnered with falcon. Doubt she comes in this way as a wolf.

Generally she's also pushing the game in a good direction and that's town-indicative of her. Agree with her takes on Deli (and also that she pointed out Deli as being somebody likely to get mistakenly misread is accurate and I +1 that).

This statement has no basis of fact unless you have TMI.

it's a weird read but atm I'm pretty much just seeing wiml town reading town and wolf reading scummy people, plus I think it's not necessarily wolfy for him to be forcing reads atm

[MacDougall]

Every Wiml post I read has my bullshit radar going off at five alarm fire.

[Creature]

Why is everyone town reading wiml?

Not sure on him. Some of his unpopular stances, like defending Gavial, seemed towny.

Audaciousness is a characteristic of a quality wolf. It's not really a towntell for someone like wiml.

Fair.

[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine

I really need to sleep.

[MacDougall]

Esooa focusing on meta reads is towny for her (regardless of the accuracy of the read) and probably not partnered with falcon. Doubt she comes in this way as a wolf.

Generally she's also pushing the game in a good direction and that's town-indicative of her. Agree with her takes on Deli (and also that she pointed out Deli as being somebody likely to get mistakenly misread is accurate and I +1 that).

This statement has no basis of fact unless you have TMI.

it's a weird read but atm I'm pretty much just seeing wiml town reading town and wolf reading scummy people, plus I think it's not necessarily wolfy for him to be forcing reads atm

Wiml is a quality player and based on a small sample size, I think we see the game similarly so when Wiml looks at posts and arrives at different outcomes to me over and over again I think it's an indication that we are not aligned. This isn't meta proven, but based on what I've seen in games I've played with them so far I would say it holds true.

They are also reminding me of my own mafia posts. Particularly the mix of overexplaining things to feign solving mindset mixed in with snap reads that are designed to keep people off balance.

[Gavial]

@Esooa is Kami mafia?

RN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read

Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment ime

Besides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?

i'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.



Villa
Deli

Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?

Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature

Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon


tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O

Why do you townread Marmot and igno? I'm not satisfied with their content.

If your going to repeat exactly what I said you can Unvote me tyvm.
I also said more within my post to Deli then you did here.

[Esooa]

Esooa focusing on meta reads is towny for her (regardless of the accuracy of the read) and probably not partnered with falcon. Doubt she comes in this way as a wolf.

Generally she's also pushing the game in a good direction and that's town-indicative of her. Agree with her takes on Deli (and also that she pointed out Deli as being somebody likely to get mistakenly misread is accurate and I +1 that).

This statement has no basis of fact unless you have TMI.

it's a weird read but atm I'm pretty much just seeing wiml town reading town and wolf reading scummy people, plus I think it's not necessarily wolfy for him to be forcing reads atm

Wiml is a quality player and based on a small sample size, I think we see the game similarly so when Wiml looks at posts and arrives at different outcomes to me over and over again I think it's an indication that we are not aligned. This isn't meta proven, but based on what I've seen in games I've played with them so far I would say it holds true.

They are also reminding me of my own mafia posts. Particularly the mix of overexplaining things to feign solving mindset mixed in with snap reads that are designed to keep people off balance.

If he is a mafia like you he isn't the mafia we vote day 1. That's just not really how it works imo

[Gavial]

Why is everyone town reading wiml?

Not sure on him. Some of his unpopular stances, like defending Gavial, seemed towny.

Audaciousness is a characteristic of a quality wolf. It's not really a towntell for someone like wiml.

Fair.

[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine

I really need to sleep.

NM you changed it.
But Tbf, if Deli is scum I think it’s with Igno and Syn.

[MacDougall]

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Syn @Syn
So I know you had Deli in your scum list (and Falcon) but you haven’t really built on that much. It wasn’t until Esooa VETO’ed them that inspired you to vote Deli. Why is that?

Also, your response with “Wall Posts Bad” I was referring to Ignoramus not myself.

Wiml @Wiml
When you Re-entered the thread.
You never once mentioned me the person you are voting for.
No response, no case build, no reconsideration.
No nothing.
So is there anything else you’d like to say regarding my slot?

Ignoramus @ignoramus
Considering the fact you admit to WamL you lack reason to strongly SR Falcon and your only real strong scum read is me, a Willager.
Think you may want to re-eval your reads?

Nanook @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hello mister Nanook!
It would appear you have no prior mention of WamL before you voted them. Did you perhaps do that because Syn changed their vote to Deli? Do you Town Read Deli or perhaps just SR WamL more?

Creature @Creature
Other then my pop out, is there any other reason you have your vote on me?

What I mean to say is: I only have TWO SRs, you and Falcon. That is why I SR both of you so strongly.
And no I will not re-evaluate, not unless I get other info from flips (mostly red, unless NK then I'll read all)
Anyway, goodnight! I should check how many hours till EOD before I can sleep peacefully
The downside of mafia

I think Igno is wolfing.

[MacDougall]

Esooa focusing on meta reads is towny for her (regardless of the accuracy of the read) and probably not partnered with falcon. Doubt she comes in this way as a wolf.

Generally she's also pushing the game in a good direction and that's town-indicative of her. Agree with her takes on Deli (and also that she pointed out Deli as being somebody likely to get mistakenly misread is accurate and I +1 that).

This statement has no basis of fact unless you have TMI.

it's a weird read but atm I'm pretty much just seeing wiml town reading town and wolf reading scummy people, plus I think it's not necessarily wolfy for him to be forcing reads atm

Wiml is a quality player and based on a small sample size, I think we see the game similarly so when Wiml looks at posts and arrives at different outcomes to me over and over again I think it's an indication that we are not aligned. This isn't meta proven, but based on what I've seen in games I've played with them so far I would say it holds true.

They are also reminding me of my own mafia posts. Particularly the mix of overexplaining things to feign solving mindset mixed in with snap reads that are designed to keep people off balance.

If he is a mafia like you he isn't the mafia we vote day 1. That's just not really how it works imo

I am not asking anyone to vote for him, yet.

[Esooa]

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Syn @Syn
So I know you had Deli in your scum list (and Falcon) but you haven’t really built on that much. It wasn’t until Esooa VETO’ed them that inspired you to vote Deli. Why is that?

Also, your response with “Wall Posts Bad” I was referring to Ignoramus not myself.

Wiml @Wiml
When you Re-entered the thread.
You never once mentioned me the person you are voting for.
No response, no case build, no reconsideration.
No nothing.
So is there anything else you’d like to say regarding my slot?

Ignoramus @ignoramus
Considering the fact you admit to WamL you lack reason to strongly SR Falcon and your only real strong scum read is me, a Willager.
Think you may want to re-eval your reads?

Nanook @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hello mister Nanook!
It would appear you have no prior mention of WamL before you voted them. Did you perhaps do that because Syn changed their vote to Deli? Do you Town Read Deli or perhaps just SR WamL more?

Creature @Creature
Other then my pop out, is there any other reason you have your vote on me?

What I mean to say is: I only have TWO SRs, you and Falcon. That is why I SR both of you so strongly.
And no I will not re-evaluate, not unless I get other info from flips (mostly red, unless NK then I'll read all)
Anyway, goodnight! I should check how many hours till EOD before I can sleep peacefully
The downside of mafia

I think Igno is wolfing.

I'd agree

[MacDougall]

igno, would you be able to talk me through your falcon read please? Particularly how you went from GTH mafia originally but you seem to strongly SR them / are making associatives with them now? Are there any other reasons for this that you haven't mentioned yet?

I'll try my best
I pretty much forgot about my read but if I read again I should be able to explain more

~~~~~

So I read through the thread again and currently these are my only reasons for wolf-reading them

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No silent voting and no way to quickly get an accurate vote count in a hammer game, rip

MVP mindset right here folks.



C'mon Nook, look at the brightside...I'm town!



That's 1 down, help me find more

So in this post, they're* already trying to pocket Nanook. I don't know them well enough to know whether or not this is NAI for them, but given my limited experience of mafia, unless these two are close a mafia would definitely prefer to pocket a town so that they got an honorary extra member.

Jesus Christ max 1 post per hour. Hopefully I don't run out of posts and patience before.

Probably means we gotta be quite efficient in our posts and try to settle quick somewhere.

Settle quick? Interesting approach w/ majority lynch, bit reckless don't ya think?

For this post, it's more like them trying to make Creature slow down/become more calm which makes me go :sus:. If Falcon is mafia and knows Creature and how he solves a lot, they would most likely try to make him slow down/lose WIM. This post (if and only if Wiml was the leading wagon) also tells me you're TMI town if Falcon flips red.

3rd.


Do I get a prize better than Bronze?


I'm Vanilla btw, it says so on my rolecard

Already claiming stuff like this first thing is Not Good
Like
I dunno if they do this a lot irregardless of alignment but gun to head this is a mafia making a claim they can fall back on when they need to

I've seen some mafia do this before and so when I see it I tend to go :sus:
I don't know how much more I can explain this ngl

No silent voting and no way to quickly get an accurate vote count in a hammer game, rip

MVP mindset right here folks.



C'mon Nook, look at the brightside...I'm town!



That's 1 down, help me find more

If Falcon flips red, which I think they will, Nanook top town

Lmao double-post

So TLDR: I don't have much reasons to SR Falcon but I SR them so strongly because of the fact I only have two SRs: Gavial and them.

I saw this post before that other one and thought it was a bit of a weird post for Wiml. Mostly the detail in which he articulated feels performative. Having arrived at an Igno wolfread after that I can see why it feels off to me because it feels like Wiml is trying to temper the obviousness of "here Igno let me give you something to chew on to make yourself look townier."

[Gavial]

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Syn @Syn
So I know you had Deli in your scum list (and Falcon) but you haven’t really built on that much. It wasn’t until Esooa VETO’ed them that inspired you to vote Deli. Why is that?

Also, your response with “Wall Posts Bad” I was referring to Ignoramus not myself.

Wiml @Wiml
When you Re-entered the thread.
You never once mentioned me the person you are voting for.
No response, no case build, no reconsideration.
No nothing.
So is there anything else you’d like to say regarding my slot?

Ignoramus @ignoramus
Considering the fact you admit to WamL you lack reason to strongly SR Falcon and your only real strong scum read is me, a Willager.
Think you may want to re-eval your reads?

Nanook @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hello mister Nanook!
It would appear you have no prior mention of WamL before you voted them. Did you perhaps do that because Syn changed their vote to Deli? Do you Town Read Deli or perhaps just SR WamL more?

Creature @Creature
Other then my pop out, is there any other reason you have your vote on me?

What I mean to say is: I only have TWO SRs, you and Falcon. That is why I SR both of you so strongly.
And no I will not re-evaluate, not unless I get other info from flips (mostly red, unless NK then I'll read all)
Anyway, goodnight! I should check how many hours till EOD before I can sleep peacefully
The downside of mafia

I think Igno is wolfing.

Read Syn, I think they wolfing with them!

[MacDougall]

Esooa is misaligned to Wiml though. And I now believe Esooa is town.

[Esooa]

igno, would you be able to talk me through your falcon read please? Particularly how you went from GTH mafia originally but you seem to strongly SR them / are making associatives with them now? Are there any other reasons for this that you haven't mentioned yet?

I'll try my best
I pretty much forgot about my read but if I read again I should be able to explain more

~~~~~

So I read through the thread again and currently these are my only reasons for wolf-reading them

Spoiler: show

No silent voting and no way to quickly get an accurate vote count in a hammer game, rip

MVP mindset right here folks.



C'mon Nook, look at the brightside...I'm town!



That's 1 down, help me find more

So in this post, they're* already trying to pocket Nanook. I don't know them well enough to know whether or not this is NAI for them, but given my limited experience of mafia, unless these two are close a mafia would definitely prefer to pocket a town so that they got an honorary extra member.

Jesus Christ max 1 post per hour. Hopefully I don't run out of posts and patience before.

Probably means we gotta be quite efficient in our posts and try to settle quick somewhere.

Settle quick? Interesting approach w/ majority lynch, bit reckless don't ya think?

For this post, it's more like them trying to make Creature slow down/become more calm which makes me go :sus:. If Falcon is mafia and knows Creature and how he solves a lot, they would most likely try to make him slow down/lose WIM. This post (if and only if Wiml was the leading wagon) also tells me you're TMI town if Falcon flips red.

3rd.


Do I get a prize better than Bronze?


I'm Vanilla btw, it says so on my rolecard

Already claiming stuff like this first thing is Not Good
Like
I dunno if they do this a lot irregardless of alignment but gun to head this is a mafia making a claim they can fall back on when they need to

I've seen some mafia do this before and so when I see it I tend to go :sus:
I don't know how much more I can explain this ngl

No silent voting and no way to quickly get an accurate vote count in a hammer game, rip

MVP mindset right here folks.



C'mon Nook, look at the brightside...I'm town!



That's 1 down, help me find more

If Falcon flips red, which I think they will, Nanook top town

Lmao double-post

So TLDR: I don't have much reasons to SR Falcon but I SR them so strongly because of the fact I only have two SRs: Gavial and them.

I saw this post before that other one and thought it was a bit of a weird post for Wiml. Mostly the detail in which he articulated feels performative. Having arrived at an Igno wolfread after that I can see why it feels off to me because it feels like Wiml is trying to temper the obviousness of "here Igno let me give you something to chew on to make yourself look townier."

I think this post just as likely comes from Wiml as either alignment

[MacDougall]

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Syn @Syn
So I know you had Deli in your scum list (and Falcon) but you haven’t really built on that much. It wasn’t until Esooa VETO’ed them that inspired you to vote Deli. Why is that?

Also, your response with “Wall Posts Bad” I was referring to Ignoramus not myself.

Wiml @Wiml
When you Re-entered the thread.
You never once mentioned me the person you are voting for.
No response, no case build, no reconsideration.
No nothing.
So is there anything else you’d like to say regarding my slot?

Ignoramus @ignoramus
Considering the fact you admit to WamL you lack reason to strongly SR Falcon and your only real strong scum read is me, a Willager.
Think you may want to re-eval your reads?

Nanook @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hello mister Nanook!
It would appear you have no prior mention of WamL before you voted them. Did you perhaps do that because Syn changed their vote to Deli? Do you Town Read Deli or perhaps just SR WamL more?

Creature @Creature
Other then my pop out, is there any other reason you have your vote on me?

What I mean to say is: I only have TWO SRs, you and Falcon. That is why I SR both of you so strongly.
And no I will not re-evaluate, not unless I get other info from flips (mostly red, unless NK then I'll read all)
Anyway, goodnight! I should check how many hours till EOD before I can sleep peacefully
The downside of mafia

I think Igno is wolfing.

Read Syn, I think they wolfing with them!

I am reading Syn as strongly town atm. But I am doing a full catch up.

[MacDougall]

Observations thus far on players from reading their ISOs

Deli - Some of their posts are nuanced enough that I believe they come from town, specifically their esooa read. Additionally, it seems a number of people scumread Deli for defending Wiml early on, but that looks NAI to me. No issues there.

Kami - Short posts, but they seem very unafraid in tossing reads out there. It's a townlean for now, one I'll likely reconsider later or on future days.

Esooa - I like esooa's more recent posts more than her earlier ones. I think her agreement with Mac is very lacking, mainly because Mac provided 0 context for his reads, so agreeing with them is a big meh. But she seems to be making her own reads, including calling falcon mafia (which is actually not what Mac called him lol)

hollowbutt - I was torn on this one. On one hand, his posts look like ones he could believe in (I'm looking particularly at his argument with Deli about Deli's defense of Wiml). But this suspicion seems a little silly to me. Meta read on HK (yes I'm using a meta read, take that), in his last two wolf games, HK has created a heavy distancing with a partner on Day 1 (Invictus in Bluey Mafia, and Seanzie in Beelzebub). Wiml's reaction makes them look not paired based on HK's recent scum strategies, so I believe they are not W/W, but they could be any other combo. I'm going to give HK a slight townlean for now, mainly because I'm not ready to yeet him.

Wiml - I'm in agreement with a lot of others on this slot. His entrance into the game isn't very good, particular his comments about Gavial. That said, Wiml has a redeeming factor in that he's continued playing the game in a manner that seems unperturbed by the pressure, which I think is a mildly good look.

Syn - I don't recall a game where I was town and Syn was also playing (and he didn't sub in after I died), thus I can't recall a time where I've had to make an uninformed read on Syn. I'm not seeing anything yet that makes me townread him. GTH, mafia, but that's more to lack of readable content than to anything specifically scummy.

Nanook - Not out of his townrange or scumrange right now. Will reconsider on a future day.

ignoramus - Most of their ISO is fine, with the exception of this post. @ignoramus is there a reason you feel the need to force a scum read due to having a lack of them?

MacDougall - 0 scumreads so far. 2 3 townreads. Mac having 0 stated scumreads 24 hours into the day is a concern. He has made a vote, but it was a naked vote. Not a townread right now (but he could just be lazy).

Creature - One thing I really dislike about Creature thus far is their post saying ""I think I townread..." and two posts later saying "I currently feel fairly good". I have 2 issues here. 1) Creature uses two adverbs to describe the second opinion. 2) Nothing really happened to support such a confidence change. I don't mind a bunch of townreads early, but I see this a means of doubling down when being questioned about it since the reads began as soft ones.



I unfortunately have to run, so I'll get to Gavial and falcon later, but I'm going to drop a vote on Creature for now.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Everything about this makes me gag.

[Esooa]

Observations thus far on players from reading their ISOs

Deli - Some of their posts are nuanced enough that I believe they come from town, specifically their esooa read. Additionally, it seems a number of people scumread Deli for defending Wiml early on, but that looks NAI to me. No issues there.

Kami - Short posts, but they seem very unafraid in tossing reads out there. It's a townlean for now, one I'll likely reconsider later or on future days.

Esooa - I like esooa's more recent posts more than her earlier ones. I think her agreement with Mac is very lacking, mainly because Mac provided 0 context for his reads, so agreeing with them is a big meh. But she seems to be making her own reads, including calling falcon mafia (which is actually not what Mac called him lol)

hollowbutt - I was torn on this one. On one hand, his posts look like ones he could believe in (I'm looking particularly at his argument with Deli about Deli's defense of Wiml). But this suspicion seems a little silly to me. Meta read on HK (yes I'm using a meta read, take that), in his last two wolf games, HK has created a heavy distancing with a partner on Day 1 (Invictus in Bluey Mafia, and Seanzie in Beelzebub). Wiml's reaction makes them look not paired based on HK's recent scum strategies, so I believe they are not W/W, but they could be any other combo. I'm going to give HK a slight townlean for now, mainly because I'm not ready to yeet him.

Wiml - I'm in agreement with a lot of others on this slot. His entrance into the game isn't very good, particular his comments about Gavial. That said, Wiml has a redeeming factor in that he's continued playing the game in a manner that seems unperturbed by the pressure, which I think is a mildly good look.

Syn - I don't recall a game where I was town and Syn was also playing (and he didn't sub in after I died), thus I can't recall a time where I've had to make an uninformed read on Syn. I'm not seeing anything yet that makes me townread him. GTH, mafia, but that's more to lack of readable content than to anything specifically scummy.

Nanook - Not out of his townrange or scumrange right now. Will reconsider on a future day.

ignoramus - Most of their ISO is fine, with the exception of this post. @ignoramus is there a reason you feel the need to force a scum read due to having a lack of them?

MacDougall - 0 scumreads so far. 2 3 townreads. Mac having 0 stated scumreads 24 hours into the day is a concern. He has made a vote, but it was a naked vote. Not a townread right now (but he could just be lazy).

Creature - One thing I really dislike about Creature thus far is their post saying ""I think I townread..." and two posts later saying "I currently feel fairly good". I have 2 issues here. 1) Creature uses two adverbs to describe the second opinion. 2) Nothing really happened to support such a confidence change. I don't mind a bunch of townreads early, but I see this a means of doubling down when being questioned about it since the reads began as soft ones.



I unfortunately have to run, so I'll get to Gavial and falcon later, but I'm going to drop a vote on Creature for now.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Everything about this makes me gag.

yeah kinda

[MacDougall]

I'm surprised nobody picked it up after I strongly suggested it earlier but my entrance was on purpose lol. I wanted to see how people would react if I did something very uncharacteristic mostly, given that I don't usually consider myself a miselim risk in these sorts of games.


I think hk/Deli had towny reactions to it. Syn maybe(???) but I'm not sure.

[MacDougall]

Hollowkatt all over the place, getting tilted, having bad reads, shielding probable wolves... this is town HK 100%.

[MacDougall]

I have some thoughts on gavial but I'm struggling to parse how much of it is personality indicative.

@Gavial would you mind linking merecent games where you're town and scum that you think are representative of your play?

Okay Wiml has a buzzword bingo wolf tell. Might wanna clear that out of your meta bro lol.

[Esooa]

mac what're my wolf tells

[MacDougall]

Pretty confident townreads

hollowkatt
Esooa
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Moderately confident townreads

falcon45ca
Syn

Not sure, kinda towny maybe

Creature
Gavial
Kami

Kinda scummy but I have a sense I might be reading these people wrong

Marmot
Deli

Just wolfy

Wiml
ignoramus

[MacDougall]

mac what're my wolf tells

I dunno your game progresses rapidly and I haven't seen you wolf in like 6 months. You don't have all that many because you have openwolfing in your townrange. At the time your wolf game was characterised by things such as outing yourself trying to save drowning teammates, and/or pushing really obvious towny players for bad reasons. Nothing in your posting style particularly, but yeah that's mostly because you have being unabashedly anti-town in your townrange.

[Gavial]

mac what're my wolf tells

I dunno your game progresses rapidly and I haven't seen you wolf in like 6 months. You don't have all that many because you have openwolfing in your townrange. At the time your wolf game was characterised by things such as outing yourself trying to save drowning teammates, and/or pushing really obvious towny players for bad reasons. Nothing in your posting style particularly, but yeah that's mostly because you have being unabashedly anti-town in your townrange.

In that fallout game where you and Esooa were half scum and teammates, how did she act then and can you compare it to this game?

[MacDougall]

mac what're my wolf tells

I dunno your game progresses rapidly and I haven't seen you wolf in like 6 months. You don't have all that many because you have openwolfing in your townrange. At the time your wolf game was characterised by things such as outing yourself trying to save drowning teammates, and/or pushing really obvious towny players for bad reasons. Nothing in your posting style particularly, but yeah that's mostly because you have being unabashedly anti-town in your townrange.

In that fallout game where you and Esooa were half scum and teammates, how did she act then and can you compare it to this game?

No because we were just able to scum hunt so there is no meta that applies.

[Esooa]

mac what're my wolf tells

I dunno your game progresses rapidly and I haven't seen you wolf in like 6 months. You don't have all that many because you have openwolfing in your townrange. At the time your wolf game was characterised by things such as outing yourself trying to save drowning teammates, and/or pushing really obvious towny players for bad reasons. Nothing in your posting style particularly, but yeah that's mostly because you have being unabashedly anti-town in your townrange.

lmfao I've been a good little towny recently shut up

[ignoramus]

Observations thus far on players from reading their ISOs

Deli - Some of their posts are nuanced enough that I believe they come from town, specifically their esooa read. Additionally, it seems a number of people scumread Deli for defending Wiml early on, but that looks NAI to me. No issues there.

Kami - Short posts, but they seem very unafraid in tossing reads out there. It's a townlean for now, one I'll likely reconsider later or on future days.

Esooa - I like esooa's more recent posts more than her earlier ones. I think her agreement with Mac is very lacking, mainly because Mac provided 0 context for his reads, so agreeing with them is a big meh. But she seems to be making her own reads, including calling falcon mafia (which is actually not what Mac called him lol)

hollowbutt - I was torn on this one. On one hand, his posts look like ones he could believe in (I'm looking particularly at his argument with Deli about Deli's defense of Wiml). But this suspicion seems a little silly to me. Meta read on HK (yes I'm using a meta read, take that), in his last two wolf games, HK has created a heavy distancing with a partner on Day 1 (Invictus in Bluey Mafia, and Seanzie in Beelzebub). Wiml's reaction makes them look not paired based on HK's recent scum strategies, so I believe they are not W/W, but they could be any other combo. I'm going to give HK a slight townlean for now, mainly because I'm not ready to yeet him.

Wiml - I'm in agreement with a lot of others on this slot. His entrance into the game isn't very good, particular his comments about Gavial. That said, Wiml has a redeeming factor in that he's continued playing the game in a manner that seems unperturbed by the pressure, which I think is a mildly good look.

Syn - I don't recall a game where I was town and Syn was also playing (and he didn't sub in after I died), thus I can't recall a time where I've had to make an uninformed read on Syn. I'm not seeing anything yet that makes me townread him. GTH, mafia, but that's more to lack of readable content than to anything specifically scummy.

Nanook - Not out of his townrange or scumrange right now. Will reconsider on a future day.

ignoramus - Most of their ISO is fine, with the exception of this post. @ignoramus is there a reason you feel the need to force a scum read due to having a lack of them?

MacDougall - 0 scumreads so far. 2 3 townreads. Mac having 0 stated scumreads 24 hours into the day is a concern. He has made a vote, but it was a naked vote. Not a townread right now (but he could just be lazy).

Creature - One thing I really dislike about Creature thus far is their post saying ""I think I townread..." and two posts later saying "I currently feel fairly good". I have 2 issues here. 1) Creature uses two adverbs to describe the second opinion. 2) Nothing really happened to support such a confidence change. I don't mind a bunch of townreads early, but I see this a means of doubling down when being questioned about it since the reads began as soft ones.



I unfortunately have to run, so I'll get to Gavial and falcon later, but I'm going to drop a vote on Creature for now.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

I have no idea what you're talking about?? I didn't force any SRs, it's just that I have only two SRs rn so I've focused a lot on them
And very unrelated but I'm pretty sure Esooa's seen/been in a game with me where I did *not* bus my teammates and won. (or it was Wiml idk)
Planning to chill because today is a Saturday so you'll most likely catch me not solving/not caring

[Creature]

Pretty confident townreads

hollowkatt
Esooa
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Moderately confident townreads

falcon45ca
Syn

Not sure, kinda towny maybe

Creature
Gavial
Kami

Kinda scummy but I have a sense I might be reading these people wrong

Marmot
Deli

Just wolfy

Wiml
ignoramus

I can agree with most of this list.

[Deli]

oof okay I went to take a bath and missed a lot ig, why is thread always dead when I post and then I leave and people start talking. I feel like the loser at the sleepover.

I just realized I'm at 36 posts and I'd like to save my remaining posts for tomorrow morning

igno? - I thought igno came in really towny but after some reactions I think I misinterpreted so I'm uncertain but not willing to give up on the vibes

Did I really forget syn? I must have just forgotten about them, can't think of a single memorable post

Marmot seemed genuine to me and game-solvey, I didn't feel like there was an agenda and their reads just made sense to me.

Is Mac an audacious wolf? cause this page has just been him trending downward.
idg the wiml read at all, he's playing exactly like last game

maybe my reads are way off, I feel like I'm missing people a lot and there isn't a ton of actual interaction, but I'm just not smelling what some of you are stepping in ig and we don't see things the same here.

If there was another question I missed it's just going to have to go unanswered, it's late for me after a shitty day teaching 10 year olds about puberty. I'll be here all morning before EOD