The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:49 am I think this was my first 3p rand on TS

Simple Arsonist might be considered a 3p rand

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:03 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:02 pm I would play this setup again in a heartbeat btw. One time wasn't enough.
It is very replayable yeah.

If anyone wants to host it again sometime let me know cuz I would play it.

Done

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:04 pm I didn’t think nanook was jester at all. Well done.
If I don’t decide to come out randomly as doctor today y’all probably don’t shift, right?

Because I was planning on killing nook tonite. I’m assuming doctor NAA would have protected him?

I think you're right. One of the big reasons I wasn't voting Nanook was NAA's confidence in the PR read.

I would play this setup again in a heartbeat btw. One time wasn't enough.

Remember when DrWilgy had a redcheck on me?

Did people actually read me as Jester EOD3?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:51 pm Nanook played well - but town should have understood that once you're on a target that isn't PR and isn't Jester, you kill. Idk if people had a Jester read on HK, but... I commented on that being unlikely yesterday.

I think you're right. I definitely felt more confident that hk was not the Jester than I felt about Nanook, but I also proposed that POE, and no one disagreed with it.

From my pov, Scotty was the doc, you and falcon were likely town and possibly Jester, which left a POE of hk/nanook. I didn't think killing hk first made a difference.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:11 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:52 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:48 pm i think scotty honestly could have carried if not for the jester shenanigans
Agreed. Nanook gets the W, Scotty gets the MVP.
Excuse me

Ok you also get the MVP, you did exactly what you needed to.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:48 pm i think scotty honestly could have carried if not for the jester shenanigans

Agreed. Nanook gets the W, Scotty gets the MVP.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:47 pm Like he knew Scotty was lying but validated his claim anyway.

Uh... weird gambit to dodge the next mafia kill?

He might've thought Scotty was either Jester or laying cover for the real Doc.

Scotty was a pretty strong TR for a lot of people.

Or rather, no one cc'd him, so I think it was reasonable to assume he wasn't lying.

I get why NAA was projecting Nanook as the PR now. I guess when Scotty claimed it, it didn't occur to me that Scotty would be lying.

NAA was the doctor?

I am confuse

Well played Nanook.

I assume hk was the godfather yeah?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:20 pm It would be funny if nanook was actually jester

It was funny that Nanook was actually Jester.

Niiiice, that sounds like a W?

It would be funny if nanook was actually jester

@NotAnAxehole vote nanook with me

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

Ok let's kill Nanook then.

Hopefully a POE of hk/Nanook is a winning one then

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:34 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:21 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I've been trying to out that you're PR all game, and nobody has killed you yet, so you don't have to vote me over it.
Which is funny considering I’m the doctor

Nice

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:29 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:24 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:54 pm NAA, what do you think of me clearing Falcon here from being godfather?
I know I said spewed town but then realized wolves don't know who the jester is so I'm walking that part back, but I do think they're not the GF
If you're Jester *shrug*

If you're town, Jester is not voting you.
I mean if I'm jester the game ends with my chop so good for me I guess?
I'm not sure that HK town = jester not voting for me. Jester wants to look bad enough to be a possible push right?

That's why I'm putting in a townie amount of effort to counter the notion that Jester would want to look bad right now.

Nanook being the doctor is probably the best case scenario right now, because if we go to N3, mafia have to choose to kill him to make the POE much smaller, or kill someone else and risk a successful protect.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:25 pm 6 alive

1 wolf
1 jester
4 town

chop HK

1 wolf
1 jester
3 town

wolf NK

1 wolf
1 jester/2 town OR 3 town

If wolves NK the jester I think town just wins here
if wolves NK town though jester becomes kingmaker and decides if wolves or town wins. basically wolf and jester can hard out and force a tie which rands the chop which is as close to fulfilling the jester win con as I think they're going to get and gives wolves a 50/50 to win the game right there.

Fortunately the host accounted for that in the rules, the Jester's vote counts for 0 in a tie in F4 (and only F4, not F3), if the Jester is not one of the players being elimmed.

So the Jester can't play Kingmaker in the situation you described, which is nice.

Nanook is my number 2 candidate for LC's partner, and I think there's a fair gap between those two and everyone else.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:33 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:36 am Also, just to add, the argument that me putting in a bunch of effort on Day 3 after a wolf flip is suspicious isn't a good AI argument (which both falcon and hk are doing), because it assumes town wouldn't do such a thing, but town would do such a thing.
I mean, if I think you're Jester & therefore don't want you flipped, I don't see why Town would be bothered? Yet you seem a touch flummoxed

I'd suggest you start looking for the wolf then instead of continuing to make the argument that I'm jester

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:39 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:36 am Also, just to add, the argument that me putting in a bunch of effort on Day 3 after a wolf flip is suspicious isn't a good AI argument (which both falcon and hk are doing), because it assumes town wouldn't do such a thing, but town would do such a thing.
Yeah, I don’t see it specifically as scummy.

It’s just difficult to switch viewpoints from the common assumption that you are the elephant with a colorful hat in the room

Just imagine I'm a marmot with a colorful hat

(Which I realize if you think I'm jester means you won't listen to me, but it is what it is)

It is also important to note that the Jester absolutely doesn't want the GF elimmed today, because the game would end in a town win.

Also, just to add, the argument that me putting in a bunch of effort on Day 3 after a wolf flip is suspicious isn't a good AI argument (which both falcon and hk are doing), because it assumes town wouldn't do such a thing, but town would do such a thing.

I personally think falcon is most likely Jester atp but that's based on his treatment of me.

The only complaint I have about y'all thinking I'm jester is that you might not listen to me, but sure, keep on pretending.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:29 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:04 pm [VOTE: marmot] auberginemarmot deciding to give a damn about the game now vs any time in the last 2 game days is interesting. Lets do this:
It's incredibly sus, and makes me think even more that he's Jester

Like he's not aware that getting involved now is gonna look scummy

What do you think town!me would do?

You can't really make an argument that I am the red peek that Wilgy found and also Godfather. Those two ideas are contradictory.

~65 more posts.

Ok I'm not actually going to do that because I have nothing to say for 75 more posts.

Bye for now.

I wonder if I can postcap before anyone else even posts. This one will make it 12 in a row.

Anyway, that is my solve. I firmly believe that hk is the final wolf, and I don't really care to think about who the Jester is unless that theory is proven incorrect.

I also get the feeling that HK and LC actually believed I was jester, which is why they (or at least LC) didn't vote me to save LC, but rather had a falcon wagon going.

[VOTE: hk] aubergine

Looking at the poll, it appears NAA and Nanook agree with me.

I'm not going to analyze NAA right now, he's just town.

That leaves us in a position where I think the likelihood of anyone being mafia in order of most to least likely is as follows.

hollowkatt
Nanook
falcon
Scotty
NAA

Analysis of Scotty's interactions with Lime Coke

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Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:30 pm I think falcon is a good chance at being jester with how he’s approached the game thus far

LC why you there

This is Scotty's only interaction with LC Day 1, asking him why he's voting for falcon. It leaves a bit to be desired, but I do think that mafia would at least try to interact more than this, so it might not be anything to worry about, especially given Scotty was busy chatting with hk, LP, and falcon.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:24 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:33 pm Lime Coke obvi mafia.
I was thinking about LC a lot last night and I can’t actually remember anything he said yesterday, so I went back and looked. He seemed to town read more than suspect, and then his exchange with you was like a maraca during the Moonlight Sonata. Like it was half-formed and stilted, and he didn’t really mean what he was saying.

NAA is sure LC is mafia, but I’m more in the camp that he’s up there with Marmot as a top suspect for jester. My perception is similar in that I don’t think he really seems to care about who is lynched,
And that might be intentional.

Day 2, Scotty does offer a long explanation about why he suspects LC, but as jester not mafia. I find myself believing Scotty believe what he's saying here, even though it's exactly how mafia would want to play.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:38 pm[VOTE: LC] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:45 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:43 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:24 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:33 pm Lime Coke obvi mafia.
I was thinking about LC a lot last night and I can’t actually remember anything he said yesterday, so I went back and looked. He seemed to town read more than suspect, and then his exchange with you was like a maraca during the Moonlight Sonata. Like it was half-formed and stilted, and he didn’t really mean what he was saying.

NAA is sure LC is mafia, but I’m more in the camp that he’s up there with Marmot as a top suspect for jester. My perception is similar in that I don’t think he really seems to care about who is lynched,
And that might be intentional.
I mean...my exchange with NAA isn't really anything to look at, since I've literally done it every game and stand by my statements.

Sheeping NAA isn't a good option, case and point his read on me.

Is there anything based on my content that you want to ask about?
That’s the thing- I just get the impression that you were just cheesing around in the breeze at the end of the day. Did you even end your vote on anyone?

Ok but then Scotty does double down and vote for LC here. Good look imo.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 10:14 pm I…think I do too..

However.

I don’t like how nonchalant LC is being. It’s not like he’s putting up a huge fight for his lynch here.

Scotty backs off of his conviction.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:00 pm I think marmot and LC are most likely to be jester here fwiw

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:05 pm Yeah yeah yeah ok back to [VOTE: LC] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:08 pm I just have a manic mood. I think if LC isn’t jester we’re in a good spot regardless of if he is town or mafia.

If he’s mafia, I think we’re close to a game solve
If he’s town, hitting mafia tomorrow should be a breeze

Towards EOD, Scotty definitely questions his own earlier conviction more, and it does end with him voting for LC, which earns him mad town points.

Also, I think he's right, we're close to a gamesolve.

I think Scotty is the towniest of the players I've looked at thus far (which is everyone except for NAA). Yes he did interact with LC Day 1 only 1 time, but I think that's a good look in a 2-person mafia team scenario, in that I believe the team would at least force more interaction. And on Day 2, he came around pretty quickly on pushing LC.

PS: wasting a post to correct the spoiler tag.

Analysis of Scotty's interactions with Lime Coke

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Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:30 pm I think falcon is a good chance at being jester with how he’s approached the game thus far

LC why you there

This is Scotty's only interaction with LC Day 1, asking him why he's voting for falcon. It leaves a bit to be desired, but I do think that mafia would at least try to interact more than this, so it might not be anything to worry about, especially given Scotty was busy chatting with hk, LP, and falcon.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:24 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:33 pm Lime Coke obvi mafia.
I was thinking about LC a lot last night and I can’t actually remember anything he said yesterday, so I went back and looked. He seemed to town read more than suspect, and then his exchange with you was like a maraca during the Moonlight Sonata. Like it was half-formed and stilted, and he didn’t really mean what he was saying.

NAA is sure LC is mafia, but I’m more in the camp that he’s up there with Marmot as a top suspect for jester. My perception is similar in that I don’t think he really seems to care about who is lynched,
And that might be intentional.

Day 2, Scotty does offer a long explanation about why he suspects LC, but as jester not mafia. I find myself believing Scotty believe what he's saying here, even though it's exactly how mafia would want to play.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:38 pm[VOTE: LC] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:45 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:43 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:24 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:33 pm Lime Coke obvi mafia.
I was thinking about LC a lot last night and I can’t actually remember anything he said yesterday, so I went back and looked. He seemed to town read more than suspect, and then his exchange with you was like a maraca during the Moonlight Sonata. Like it was half-formed and stilted, and he didn’t really mean what he was saying.

NAA is sure LC is mafia, but I’m more in the camp that he’s up there with Marmot as a top suspect for jester. My perception is similar in that I don’t think he really seems to care about who is lynched,
And that might be intentional.
I mean...my exchange with NAA isn't really anything to look at, since I've literally done it every game and stand by my statements.

Sheeping NAA isn't a good option, case and point his read on me.

Is there anything based on my content that you want to ask about?
That’s the thing- I just get the impression that you were just cheesing around in the breeze at the end of the day. Did you even end your vote on anyone?

Ok but then Scotty does double down and vote for LC here. Good look imo.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 10:14 pm I…think I do too..

However.

I don’t like how nonchalant LC is being. It’s not like he’s putting up a huge fight for his lynch here.

Scotty backs off of his conviction.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:00 pm I think marmot and LC are most likely to be jester here fwiw

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:05 pm Yeah yeah yeah ok back to [VOTE: LC] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:08 pm I just have a manic mood. I think if LC isn’t jester we’re in a good spot regardless of if he is town or mafia.

If he’s mafia, I think we’re close to a game solve
If he’s town, hitting mafia tomorrow should be a breeze

Towards EOD, Scotty definitely questions his own earlier conviction more, and it does end with him voting for LC, which earns him mad town points.

Also, I think he's right, we're close to a gamesolve.[/spoiler]

I think Scotty is the towniest of the players I've looked at thus far (which is everyone except for NAA). Yes he did interact with LC Day 1 only 1 time, but I think that's a good look in a 2-person mafia team scenario, in that I believe the team would at least force more interaction. And on Day 2, he came around pretty quickly on pushing LC.

Analysis of Nannok's interactions with Lime Coke

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Yeah, it's only one post, and it's not even game-related content. This was also LC's only interaction with Nanook, a response to this.

Anyway, Nanook is awarded a big fat null.

Analysis of falcon's interactions with Lime Coke

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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:03 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:19 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:50 pm LP's entrance seems most stilted but that doesn't mean anything at this point

naa unironically not a jester imo, idk skimming P#17 seems to on the nose for jester kinda

marmot following HK's 24 with 25, kinda scummy but maybe in a jestery way

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:16 pm After mafia goon dies, cop should act like a named towny unless the jester is being yeeted

After The Godfather dies, idk

After the jester dies, cop should act like a cop
So far Dolby's posting seem like the towniest in regard to getting right into snap reads at the start of the game. I agree with HK's sentiment that it feels like town enthusiasm.

Plus the PR talk feels like it has some high town intentions.
Am I used to seeing Dolby get right into snap reads off the hop?

No, I am not. I find it uncharacteristic

falcon opted to make slight shade against Dolby after LC called him town. I don't even know if I call this shade. Maybe it's just an observation. Anywho, unsolicited answer to LC question, but it doesn't say much, so null read for now.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:08 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:05 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:56 am I mean it's fair. I see why you town read them. I just think it's a little too focused on one thing.
And from the way I see it Jester is more a threat to Mafia since they want the Jester alive for protection from Cop, but not lynched because they lose.
They also just happen to be in the best position to actually know if someone is a Jester or not, so I'm thinking a focus on the Jester seems a bit more likely to come from Mafia.
Depends on how people play as 3P. I've seen players try to townside or just fuck around and be a circus act.
Also feels like it could suck for town, because like you're pointing out now, it's a distraction as well. The jester gets the attention, mafia could choose to either hide in the background or partake to blend in.
Literally just a chaotic role.
I feel like one of you is Maf, tho I'm unsure who atm

falcon calls one of LP and LC mafia. He was right. I don't know if a wolf would call out their teammate this early into Day 1.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:14 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:09 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:08 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:05 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:56 am I mean it's fair. I see why you town read them. I just think it's a little too focused on one thing.
And from the way I see it Jester is more a threat to Mafia since they want the Jester alive for protection from Cop, but not lynched because they lose.
They also just happen to be in the best position to actually know if someone is a Jester or not, so I'm thinking a focus on the Jester seems a bit more likely to come from Mafia.
Depends on how people play as 3P. I've seen players try to townside or just fuck around and be a circus act.
Also feels like it could suck for town, because like you're pointing out now, it's a distraction as well. The jester gets the attention, mafia could choose to either hide in the background or partake to blend in.
Literally just a chaotic role.
I feel like one of you is Maf, tho I'm unsure who atm
What makes you think this?
The way you both interact...it just feels...off?

Anyways,

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

He's prolly Godfather

But then falcon votes Scotty, so he loses town points from previous post.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:20 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:33 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:17 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:33 pm This is like the second Day 1 in a row where nothing has happened.
Tbf, this game is a 10player game with a post cap of 60. We're 1/3 of the way as a thread to that collective cap
The highest is 38 which is only about half? Like I get not hyper posting but I feel like there's just nothing happening at all.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:18 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:32 pm Why are games so dead on this site?
Some are playing more than others, it's the nature of the beast.

Do you feel you're contributing a lot to this game? Talk to me about your solve (including your feelings on my slot)

Plz & thx
I contributed a small amount this game at the start but it's been so slow for the second game in a row that I just disengaged myself with the game in hopes that a decent amount of posts pop up and I can get confident enough reads on people. It's been disappointing since.

In terms of my solve, HK, Scotty, Dolby, and LP have been my townleans at the start and most of that is just vibes.

And in terms of you I'm finding you to be scummy based on just how you're viewing aspects of the game and how you're answering questions directed to you.
And here I thought you were learning how to read me a la' Veggie Wars.

I feel like you'd try & pocket my slot as Town if you were Maf tho, so I'm town leaning you

I don't love falcon's response to TR LC here, but LC choosing falcon as his solo scumread after listing off a bunch of townreads I think looks good for falcon.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:46 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:45 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:43 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:38 pm LP was incredibly suspect of me, dolby, falcon. One of those is dead town
What if Maf took out LP to frame her suspects!

Doesn't really look good when you say it yourself.
Yeah, but Town shouldn't care about "looking good"

That's what Maf worry about

More shade thrown at each other.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:43 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:31 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:25 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:04 pm [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine
hey...
'Sup?
You're not allowed to do that.
Oh? I must've misread the rules...

Then again, you know what they say...rules are made to be broken

falcon votes for LC. I think that LC's resposne is kinda weak and an attempt to joke around, and makes falcon look somewhat townie.

So, I do like a bit of what happened here. LC offered a suspicion of falcon later on Day 1, and they sort of eventually started suspecting each other on Day 2, including falcon voting for LC. I'd lean towards slightly not teammate-compatable, though I would feel more strongly about it if falcon had left his vote on at EOD instead of moving it.

But falcon did vote for me, his Jester read, which I don't think mafia would do in that scenario. I think town is more likely to have trouble differentiating between a wolf and a jester, and falcon voting for me in that situation suggests that he was struggling with that.

Analysis of hollowkatt's interactions with Lime Coke

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hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:26 pm carry me town Coke daddy

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:12 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:09 pm Funny story that the last MafiaCafe game that happened was a jester setup. One mafia got flipped and I towncleared someone based off the flipped mafia member's spew. Turned out it was the jester and I made them unyeetable based on that and they got frustrated by it.

If I manage to townclear the jester again after a wolf flip, there will be more laughter to come.
I'm so god danm mad about that game!
I was playing the perfect chaos D1, managed to guess right on a wolf, lead their wagon for a while, said kill them tomorrow, then the fucking wolves night killed me. MY BODY WAS READY FOR THAT ROLE AND I WAS DENIED.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:17 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:13 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:12 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:09 pm Funny story that the last MafiaCafe game that happened was a jester setup. One mafia got flipped and I towncleared someone based off the flipped mafia member's spew. Turned out it was the jester and I made them unyeetable based on that and they got frustrated by it.

If I manage to townclear the jester again after a wolf flip, there will be more laughter to come.
I'm so god danm mad about that game!
I was playing the perfect chaos D1, managed to guess right on a wolf, lead their wagon for a while, said kill them tomorrow, then the fucking wolves night killed me. MY BODY WAS READY FOR THAT ROLE AND I WAS DENIED.
Your legacy ended up flipping a wolf too!
I know! That Damn Bruno. I never should have talked about Bruno

These interactions are hk's first with Lime Coke. Kinda basic, but given the relevance of the setup of the game they're talking about, I'm not putting much stock in it.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:24 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:14 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:58 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:52 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:44 pm This reads like NAA believes in what they are saying.
Oh no...that's not something you wanna hear.
why's that
Many town games are a loss whenever NAA is both town and confident in a read.
oh, I thought you were going to say something like "NAA is always a wolf when you feel that way"

I don't like what LC said about NAA in this interaction. I think the interaction with hk is null though.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:28 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:26 pm @hollowkatt

What's the read on Dolby currently from you?
anti-town

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:33 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:31 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:29 pm if he's a wolf he's relying on jester paranoia to live. if he's the jester he's counting on me wolf reading his lack of anything townie to get chopped.
I guess you answered my question already, whoops.
to be more specific though he's focused on the mechanics without engaging really in any kind of alignment speculation or hunting. he hasn't, as far as I've seen, even really found some people to call town and talk about why they're town. He exists in a way that town dolby almost never exists.

Ok, I kinda like this post from hk. In response LC saying his question, hk posted again and clarified his thoughts, which I don't think is w/w here.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:54 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:45 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:43 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:38 pm LP was incredibly suspect of me, dolby, falcon. One of those is dead town
What if Maf took out LP to frame her suspects!

Doesn't really look good when you say it yourself.
All falcon did was say the part I didn't say out loud, out loud.

null

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:05 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:04 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:02 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:00 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:54 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:42 pm I'm assuming wolves think/thought LP would be a safe kill b/c doctor would be on nanook b/c wolves dunno if he's fake claiming cop or not.
Would nanook be the kind of wolf to fake claim cop and then drop a naked vote on someone at sod without posting in the thread in an attempt to paint his target as a check?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:53 pm Nook is currently voting HK without explanation.

Spicy, I like it
comments on my thoughts?
I agree- I think the kill looks like a doc dodge. I don’t remember anyone actively townreading Lp.

What I don’t like is falcon suggesting it was to frame anyone
My thoughts immediately were "I'm being framed"
I think there's a way that you're going about it, and Falcon's going about it that's different though.

You haven't shown any urgency or any concern about it until now when it's brought up.

Falcon just brought it up pretty quickly.
true

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:30 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:12 pm There's a slight concern to me that you're a wolf and you just know how to play it off, since I've been snowed by you before in a few games.

But going off the basis of "His posting doesn't concern me, he must be a wolf" is an awful idea to me.
also true
otoh if you're familiar enough with my wolf game to have legit concerns you should also be familiar enough with it to have an idea of how to force me to tell my alignment

hk explaining how he can be wolfread to LC. I dunno, to me this looks like LC has hk previously pocketed, and now on his heels slightly, as hk is trying to explain how he is townreadable in a slightly defensive manner.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:02 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:57 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:54 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:38 pm Also lol how does losing your 2 wolf reads spew you jester?
i said it spews me not jester
What spews you jester?
i only have one jester game ever and that game I played D1 (the only day I lived) nothing like I played D1 here

This answer doesn't do much for me, null.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:07 pm I think Lime Coke is either town or jester, not a wolf.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:31 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:28 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:10 pm it's like I make posts in response to questions and then they're not read
I don't think he's Jester and I don't agree with your town or Jester - I have no idea how you could even arrive at that conclusion.
threadstate basically.
like nobody really cares about whether or not LC is a wolf. Small handful have made "LC is a wolf" statements but no pushes, just statements. If LC is mafia then mafia have basically scooped, I don't think they can win if they lose one member today.
There's no competing wagon movements, literally nobody cares.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:32 pm even LC doesn't care, which is like either super town or jester, and like I said, either way we should not kill him.

hk commits to a read. It doesn't look great for him tbh, as in he is actually telling us that mafia lose if one of their teammates dies Day 2, while also telling us not to kill LC.

There are some reasonable moments earlier for hk, but I do think that his eventual defense of LC is teammate compatible. Also, he and LC only discussed reads of other players once in the game, and that was Dolby on Day 1.

I haven't read through LC's posts yet, but I did a quick skim. Of his 48 posts, 16 of them either are responses to hk posts, or talking about hk. That is a lot in a 10 player game.

Oh nice, Wilgy thinks I'm the Jester, I'm ok with this outcome.

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