The Syndicate

first night i use my doctor power to protect @dunya cus i'm excited to be playing a game with her again after so long and her team kills me :[

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:40 pm Yes, RIP @Kylemii . I never go to tell you that I truly love your new custom title. So perfect.

I also appreciate it and am proud to have been given it by.... dunya... I think? thank you to whomever

also bluhhh I'm dead!!! x_x

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:08 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:07 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:38 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:09 pm Null on Epi

I think kyle is wolfy for having so many posts but not a lot of content. basically, I'd shoot kyle of the two
this is not our first game together
jpic you should know based on your prior experience playing with me that I am very whimsical and cool
Kyle is very whimsical and cool.

You find it hard to keep that up as a baddie, Kyle?

I have a physiological need to make bad jokes and have a good time with my internet friends and acquaintances that transcends the bounds of alignment.

I won't be able to post as much as I hope in the last hour, cus of work stuff. Ping me if you need anything, I'll try to be around at eod, and I'll catch up in what I missed during the night

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:38 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:09 pm Null on Epi

I think kyle is wolfy for having so many posts but not a lot of content. basically, I'd shoot kyle of the two
this is not our first game together

jpic you should know based on your prior experience playing with me that I am very whimsical and cool

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:09 pm Null on Epi

I think kyle is wolfy for having so many posts but not a lot of content. basically, I'd shoot kyle of the two

this is not our first game together

I'm obvs joking with hyperbole but whenever someone comes at me with like any sort of opinion on day one my inner voice says "yeah you would say that you sneaky sneaky devil"

it's never rational

anyone with a neutral opinion of me is also mafia afraid to take a stance, anyone who doesn't fit into any of those categories is.... in a second discrete mafia.

everyone who suspects me is mafia being opportunistic, and everyone who trusts me is mafia working with tmi,

basically a mafia who started with lands would only outwardly posit that mafia didn't start with lands for wifom and attention

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:14 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:11 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:31 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:28 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:00 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:55 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:53 am

How do they get mana for their artifacts then?
I dont know, but it makes no bloody sense that they can kill someone with an anti-claim mechanic they can control, that is 100% not counterable.

Maybe there's enough power in civilian cards to counter some of the damage. The Wolf Pack card is counterable, even if the Pity the Fool isn't.
"hmmmm" emoji here

I'm not saying I have such power, avert your eyes mafia! I'm just saying that that it likely the case considering the firepower the scum have.
it was more a 'hmm' about the previous comments in the chain
what about that previous comment made you go hmmmm?

I explained it slightly later in a small amount of depth but basically this whole conversation relies on knowledge that is publically known to be at least probably false, that wolves would for sure know is false, (whether or not wolves have land cards)

everyone in that conversation (but most centrally guillotine) was seemingly not aware of that

I was just fully ready to accept the simile "bodice of reason" like I'm holding things together for everyone but in an overtly fancy and slightly antiquated way

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:17 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm
Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.
no.

kyle is like the bodice of reason in this game with marmot. we are the 3 musketeers, don't touch.

bodice of reason

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:02 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:32 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:18 pm @Kylemii have you read falcon today? has your opinion on how he interacted with you felt the same?
basically nothing has changed. the fact that he's done absolutely nothing with his read reinforces that it's something he doesn't truly believe in. he hasn't followed up on it at all nor has he tried to convince any other people of it's validity, nor has he asked any follow up questions or even voted for me as he would if it was meant as a townie prod.
i get some townie pings and then he doubles down on bad faith argument that makes me weeeeeeeeeh read him. i don't know if he's doubling down because it looks bad not to after all was said, or because he's one of those >stubborn< players who are very hard to sway.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:33 pm dunia is town and guillotine is also town
why is guillo town in 7 words or more. thx.

At the time I posted that, I liked their self enforced lion thing and I liked that they were communicating well despite it. I think also I was annoyed that they were getting chided for being interesting and cool and I wanted to be supportive, also their response to said chiding, seemed legitimate.

more recently I think their thoughts on the fool thing show whatever is the opposite of "TMI" which I guess should be "NEI", unless it's a deliberate wifom attempt

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:42 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:24 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:21 pm the pity the fool card says right there on it that it only triggers damage with town mana.

meaning the mafia probably have their own lands and mana costs etc etc etc. Mafia guillotine would be accutely aware of having his own lands, and wouldn't have need to make that post (except in situations where it's a silly prank for wifom)
I expecct mafia to have their own lands, I expect them to have their own actions in addition to the stated global wolf actions, and that's part of the reason I wolf read Ted.
He did say earlier that he thought it might be difficult to produce 3 mana.
I know I can produce 3 with ease, and have done so already. It would stand to reason that wolves, being able to better coordinate their mana pools and share with each other, maybe can't produce 3 natively. Therefore extending that to "townies maybe struggle to get to 3 mana" to ME is indicative that Ted is a wolf.
This aligns with my belief that scum cant produce mana, they rely on towns naively giving it to them or maybe syphon it after they killed their target with mana?

If Punish The Fool is an anti-claim mechanic where it can potentially kill someone who receives all 3 mana from someone, i as a host would not give scum land that they can produce mana with, give it to a townie and then target it with punish the fool which cant be blocked.

I think we are the only ones who can produce mana with our lands and they need to figure out who we give mana to so they can use best their punish the fool ability, which means we can just lie about it and make them miss shots!

I gave my three mana to kyle

I think the problem with this is that if no one trades at all, the mafia would just be unable to kill completely, and given the amount of thought our host has put into balance that seems unlikely.

@hollowkatt thoughts on guillotine?

the pity the fool card says right there on it that it only triggers damage with town mana.

meaning the mafia probably have their own lands and mana costs etc etc etc. Mafia guillotine would be accutely aware of having his own lands, and wouldn't have need to make that post (except in situations where it's a silly prank for wifom)

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:14 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:11 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:31 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:28 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:00 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:55 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:53 am

How do they get mana for their artifacts then?
I dont know, but it makes no bloody sense that they can kill someone with an anti-claim mechanic they can control, that is 100% not counterable.

Maybe there's enough power in civilian cards to counter some of the damage. The Wolf Pack card is counterable, even if the Pity the Fool isn't.
"hmmmm" emoji here

I'm not saying I have such power, avert your eyes mafia! I'm just saying that that it likely the case considering the firepower the scum have.
it was more a 'hmm' about the previous comments in the chain
Guillo's post? What kind of hmmmmmm does it give you?

still figuring that out but I'll get back to you

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:31 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:28 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:00 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:55 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:53 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:48 am I dont think scum have lands. Because they could just give mana to a player of their choice who they really wanna kill for sure and target it with kill the fool.
How do they get mana for their artifacts then?
I dont know, but it makes no bloody sense that they can kill someone with an anti-claim mechanic they can control, that is 100% not counterable.

Maybe there's enough power in civilian cards to counter some of the damage. The Wolf Pack card is counterable, even if the Pity the Fool isn't.
"hmmmm" emoji here

I'm not saying I have such power, avert your eyes mafia! I'm just saying that that it likely the case considering the firepower the scum have.

it was more a 'hmm' about the previous comments in the chain

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:00 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:55 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:53 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:48 am I dont think scum have lands. Because they could just give mana to a player of their choice who they really wanna kill for sure and target it with kill the fool.
How do they get mana for their artifacts then?
I dont know, but it makes no bloody sense that they can kill someone with an anti-claim mechanic they can control, that is 100% not counterable.

Maybe there's enough power in civilian cards to counter some of the damage. The Wolf Pack card is counterable, even if the Pity the Fool isn't.

"hmmmm" emoji here

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:15 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:56 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 am Here's a rainbow before I sleep. The yellow reads are mostly null due to lack of content/interaction.

Marmot
dunya
Epignosis
Guillo
Kyle
Jack
DrWilgy
Enrique
JPIC
Long Con
MacDougall
Nicol Bolas
Urist
falcon
Made
Talk to me about them baddie reads.
Falcon looks like he flinging shit everywhere and seeing what sticks. Thing is, Urist and Made are two players he's not shaded at nearly the same level as many others. From his pov, Made's votes for him are lacking any amount of reason, and should not look good. Falcon's pretty much ignored it (and he's shading me for voting Made)

In addition to the above, I called Made out for his vote, and he said he was stirring shit up. I don't think he was at all, he was just spanking, but trying to make an excuse to look more productive. I believe he and falcon are teammates.

Urist defended falcon in a manner that I think looks contrived. The way Urist asks Epi to explain his read on falcon, and Urist's ensuing townread of falcon (and Ted vote) looks to me like a player who knows falcon's alignment and has his mind made up about how he's handling it.

this is. A town person

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:36 am Kyle, I'm just gonna put hk in my null list for now because I'm tired. What do you make of him this game?

doing a quick read-y skim before sleep, early on i see a lot of mech and lore discussion but then he ramps up into more solve-y stuff which is good and worth a day 1 t-read i think gth

is wubrgc actually an abbreviation for white blue black red green colorless...?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:34 am I think you've achieved maximum rank already, I'm surprised you haven't retired

what? that's impossible :0 there's nothing left for me to achieve?

oh it's not even a new title threshold :\

Spoiler: show

are you gonna tap that? (lands)

Marmot, Tedxtr, and Hollowkatt, confirmed mafia

take it to the bank boys

left them out because they're yhour TEAMMATES huh? punk?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 am Here's a rainbow before I sleep. The yellow reads are mostly null due to lack of content/interaction.

Marmot
dunya
Epignosis
Guillo
Kyle
Jack
DrWilgy
Enrique
JPIC
Long Con
MacDougall
Nicol Bolas
Urist
falcon
Made

i am curious about the urist placement and also you left out ted

marmot you have exactly 69 posts rn please proceed with caution

marmot is trying to sow chaos and discord by tricking me into spending hours searching for the perfect 7 gifs for my final 7 posts on this website as a uomini d'onore and i find that pretty sus

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:47 am But I'm going to bed soon so that ain't happening for me.

Kyle, it just occurred to me, but you're only 8 posts away from 10,000!!!

i better make them count :0

urist and marmot can never get yeeted cus they're the only people around while i'm home from work

maybe i'm not understanding it, i don't think she's saying to avoid meta altogether just like... stuff like "i always do ___ in this alignment"

so saying like "marmot is frequently more confident as town than mafia" would be fine since being confident is something that marmot would be capable of faking. i... think.

i think i don't really get it

oh... i didn't see that. that's confusing. so we should avoid discussing meta altogether if we want to ?

i can't even tell what his view of falcon is

100 posts lasts a lot longer than i expected i was sort of worried

but what doesn't she allow

i mean 'mommy' is probably tutuu, from context clues i think she's adopted everyone at least once

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:25 am
Nicol Bolas wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:20 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:13 am dunia is also town. This game is getting easy.

Who else needs solving?
I don't recall seeing marmot usually be this confident. Is this scummy for him?
Not to be a party pooper, but I don't think mommy wants us doing this sort of thing.

what does this mean?

epi is sus for trying to pocket me, whipsering sweet nothings into my ear like i won't notice. i see you, hoolignan.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:07 am You all fail.

which one were you getting at

i'm basically still perpkexed by how my day 0 jokes about copyright infringement and the coastal wizards poor color choice could create chaos or even more importantly why it would even be alignment indicative if it did

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:55 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:22 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:07 pmI don't play Mafia the same way you do, that's one thing I've learned already.
actually that's a good question, what would you say is your MO? what do you do to turn your words and actions into victories?
I vote for people I think are scum? Turn your words into action, wtf are you talking about? Are you really giving a high school guidance counselor speech right now?

what do you personally do to find mafia? aside from just voting lol. how do you go about scumhunting

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:07 pmI don't play Mafia the same way you do, that's one thing I've learned already.

actually that's a good question, what would you say is your MO? what do you do to turn your words and actions into victories?

i apologize for my pride and hubris and accept whatever penance is required

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:07 pmI don't play Mafia the same way you do, that's one thing I've learned already.

well keep practicing and someday you could

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:44 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:32 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:18 pm @Kylemii have you read falcon today? has your opinion on how he interacted with you felt the same?
basically nothing has changed. the fact that he's done absolutely nothing with his read reinforces that it's something he doesn't truly believe in. he hasn't followed up on it at all nor has he tried to convince any other people of it's validity, nor has he asked any follow up questions or even voted for me as he would if it was meant as a townie prod.
You're a dum dum head if you don't think me explaining my read on you to several different players isn't proof of my belief in its validity.

i don't think anything you could say or do could prove that you authentically believe that asking questions and joking about the answers is 'creating chaos' because it's a ludicrous statement to begin with, and it's a statement that you haven't even really explained yet.

but also defending yourself against dunya does nothing to do create pressure against me, and also you're not even voting for me, you're also not even voting for me? what do you hope to learn like that?

with 50% certainty

dunia is town and guillotine is also town

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