The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:32 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:29 pm I'm gonna carve out like 20 minutes do a quick ISO of Made instead of just reading through the argument, then pop back in again.

I'm assuming there's no way @Samusamu @Sloonei would switch to Syn today?
i'm leaving in 2 seconds and currently think that all the arguments I've seen against Syn are nonsense. I'm not saying he's lock town, but it would take something huge to sway me there.

Plus I am very firmly reading Made as mafia.

One hour later

Does day in 9 minutes? Where is everyone??

Don’t know if there’s anything I can say to switch y’all’s takes, but if y’all wanna do a deadman’s AMA come thruu

I don’t get how nothing I’ve said is valid/non circular but every read against me perfect, but so it goes

sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:28 pm I'm like 60/40 on Made, I do think Sloonie comes off alot better in their discussion and made does look worse, but I'm also very confident in my Syn read.

I also like how confident you are on this, but I'm waffling.

My biggest issues with Made stem from the fact he did seem a bit opportunistic with Samu and how he waffled on me. Plus he didn't respond to Sloonie's case very well.

What do you think of my reasoning for sloonei, specifically his reads of mew and me?

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:57 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:45 pm Wilgy lynch is a very easy push for baddies to make if yesterday was civvie civvie, and ur forcing people hard away from it which makes me think he is bad. If he’s not, well shit, but it’s my best read.

Why do you think wilgy isn’t bad?
If civie-civie? But if for you wilgy was scum yesterday

I did and do, but if civvvie civvie, then the above makes sense. The Math nerds call it Proof by contradiction (don’t tell them I said that tho. I’m deff not using it properly lmaoo)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:07 pm I am not just reading Made as mafia; I am struggling to read him as town. I need to leave for work shortly and won't be here for the deadline. I am set on Made and I am close to begging the rest of you to do the same.

Not mad pal, merry Christmas <3

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:27 pm Why the absolute jingle bells are we scum reading Wilgy here?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:30 pm And I'm also not inclined to vote for Syn.

We're voting for Made today. I will settle for nothing else.

This wilgy defense as what I was talking about btw

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:47 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:45 pm Wilgy lynch is a very easy push for baddies to make if yesterday was civvie civvie, and ur forcing people hard away from it which makes me think he is bad. If he’s not, well shit, but it’s my best read.

Why do you think wilgy isn’t bad?
Why do you think he is bad?

I don’t have a firm read on wilgy alone. He’s doing all of the things wilgy always does regardless of alignment. The fact that no one but me seems to be resisting that momentum suggests to me that he’s town and that the mafia team views him as the path of least resistance. You’ve basically just said so yourself.

Low post, low content, last minute tie switches, I’m not getting much out of his play, and a last minute chaos switch feels like a bad af.

If the first few are just wilgy’s mo, that changes things, but like knowing his slot gives us a lot of information on yesterday’s cluster of an EOD, even if it’s an easy push. it’s an easy to push slot, so it’s a slot that needs to be defined like you are doing now

I really can’t keep this up, so like vote me if you need to, but like look at wilgy syn sloonei tomorrow

Wilgy lynch is a very easy push for baddies to make if yesterday was civvie civvie, and ur forcing people hard away from it which makes me think he is bad. If he’s not, well shit, but it’s my best read.

Why do you think wilgy isn’t bad?

Which I guess could be a civvie thing, but like this feels like a lot

Why do I think ur bad? Cuz ur pushing me hard for reasons that feel forced, and everything ur saying makes me feel like reading a different thread than I am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:32 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:28 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:26 pm Responding quick cuz doing Christmas things, but tldr, I think your likely mafia at this point because what ur saying first seemed plausible with a sig samu civvie situation. I didn’t like that syn and sloonei didn’t acknowledge each other. Feels like baddie team distancing. If you ask short questions I can answer them, but I can’t be glued to my phone right now.

Wilgy votes seem like the move to make syn look a lot better if wilgy is good, so I’m happy voting there cuz she’s more active than wilgy at this point
There are a number of people I didn’t interact with much. Why are singling out syn? What specifically makes the two of us look bad together?
I though u are bad and syn separate and noticed the lack of acknowledgments in iso. That’s why I think u wilgy syn together have big baddie energy
I was hekkatown yesterday. What happened?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:32 pm I have not interacted at all with Grand Scheme.
My only interaction with Kyle was a couple of jokes about swearing.
I did not interact with Mewtini prior to my case today.
I hadn’t said a word about wilgy until today.
I barely even talked to or about cat yesterday.
I’ve said little to night about the Marmot Falcon.

Really my only significant interactions on Day 1 were with sig, samu, and made himself.

Made has made the argument that I am specifically avoiding talking to or about Syn.

Weird reactions to me saying super town and weirder me and mew reads the next day, plus cat flipping civvie

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:28 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:26 pm Responding quick cuz doing Christmas things, but tldr, I think your likely mafia at this point because what ur saying first seemed plausible with a sig samu civvie situation. I didn’t like that syn and sloonei didn’t acknowledge each other. Feels like baddie team distancing. If you ask short questions I can answer them, but I can’t be glued to my phone right now.

Wilgy votes seem like the move to make syn look a lot better if wilgy is good, so I’m happy voting there cuz she’s more active than wilgy at this point
There are a number of people I didn’t interact with much. Why are singling out syn? What specifically makes the two of us look bad together?

I though u are bad and syn separate and noticed the lack of acknowledgments in iso. That’s why I think u wilgy syn together have big baddie energy

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:23 pm "I'm going to sign up for Nanook's Christmas game because it's light and festive and I can just play a game of mafia at a relaxed pace and not have to worry about doing all of the things I usually do." - Me, two weeks ago

Relatable

Responding quick cuz doing Christmas things, but tldr, I think your likely mafia at this point because what ur saying first seemed plausible with a sig samu civvie situation. I didn’t like that syn and sloonei didn’t acknowledge each other. Feels like baddie team distancing. If you ask short questions I can answer them, but I can’t be glued to my phone right now.

Wilgy votes seem like the move to make syn look a lot better if wilgy is good, so I’m happy voting there cuz she’s more active than wilgy at this point

And creating a tie that mafia would of resolved

I don’t think sloonei syn and wilgy are the mafia team, but I do think we got at least two in that group

Unless they know the paper is bad anyways...

I mean I just don’t think 15 minutes before eod is optimal time independent thinking. EOD vote chaos always gives me bad vibes. It’d like writing a group paper, and then last minute someone being like “What if we changed our topic

”

nah, i saw them, they just don't really make sense to me. my issue with samu was the delivery, yes, but also the core message that sounded like a "no you, but also let's distract thread!". and mew showing up 13 minutes before deadline, and then throwing a new name in the mix i feel like would of been scummy af. reads like a team player imo

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:27 pm I think I’m universally town read, and mafia can only kill me if they want to use their one-time shot. It’s a pretty sweet deal.

ehhh...bout that...

~Reading Rainbow~

civvie

Made is town

mew reads like a civvie whose out of element but doesn't force the "hey guise i don't know what's going on!?". Her end of day looks genuine

The Marmot recap pretty much follows my thinking beat for beat. wifom on the coal pt2 feels like a trap worth avoiding for now

Grand Scheme is a green utilitarian, and his rhymes are as fun as baseball is american.

Kyle doesn't feel like he's really pushing things in any direction. His post felt fluffy in thread on first read, but his iso doesn't. plus i love kyle <3

ehhhhh

sig's mechanic talk was kinda irrelevant, but in a civvie way. His alison vote looked weird, but im vibing with him today

samu looked worst for not moving things yesterday, but i like his pushes today

bad

sloonei insist that samu is obv town because

and then argues i'm bad because

and then argues mewtini is bad because

all of it feels forced

syn's end of day looks AWFUL. if wilgy is bad then syn is the teammate.

wilgy's talk looked bad yesterday, EOD vote around him look bad, silence today looks bad. iunnlikeem

knowing [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine's alignment feels like it gives us the most information

thoughts?

Ms. Syn same question but for sloonei.

Mr. Sloonei, what's ur take on Syn?

Samusamu wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:06 pm Now @Syn i'm being imperative saying to you to do a 3vs3.

what's a 3vs3?

Made wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:57 pm may it please the court:

made
syn
kyle
sig
sloonei

GS
alison
mew
cat

wilgy
samu

iso'd alison and updated

cat alison interactions look good, alison sig interactions look bad.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:02 pm [VOTE: Alison ] aubergine

This doesn't seem like your civ game st all. I don't think your vote on me is genuine. In fact you were taking advantage of samu vote to try and get a wagon started.

which post looks different? what are your reads generally?

Where is Falcon

may it please the court:

made
sig
syn
kyle
sloonei

GS
mew
cat

alison
wilgy
samu

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:41 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:02 pm What makes you think my suspicion of you is “reaction gauging”, @Made?
I “don’t” but it feels more likely that ur testing my loyalty to the civvie cause than any baddie angles I can think of anyways.

I am loyal to the court, my friend.

(Plus you just said you’re looking for [Something] so...)
I didn’t say I’m looking for [something], I said your posts give me vibes of [something].

The alleged [something] is a sort of projected confidence. It feels unnatural and/or forced.

semantics, but okay. Beside, cat and me, where are you looking at this point?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:02 pm What makes you think my suspicion of you is “reaction gauging”, @Made?

I “don’t” but it feels more likely that ur testing my loyalty to the civvie cause than any baddie angles I can think of anyways.

I am loyal to the court, my friend.

(Plus you just said you’re looking for [Something] so...)

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine feels like a more intentional cat, but somehow more airry

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:03 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:01 pm Also end of day is really early. the cat wagon feels under developed, and I don’t like samu’s vote there. where are people on mewtini?? Wilgy???
What is your read on cat?

either baddie whose realized they were gonna get yeeted if they didn’t pretend to contribute a least a little— the Alison “read” reads like potential btsc. or just low posting townie, it feels too early to vote there, but the day is also ending early and y’all think Samu is townie for reasons so yikkeess

Wilgy’s iso is bad. like really really bad

Also end of day is really early. the cat wagon feels under developed, and I don’t like samu’s vote there. where are people on mewtini?? Wilgy???

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:43 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:34 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:32 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:27 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:16 pm
What do you think about sloonei?
Hekkatown
Why?
I like the cut of ya jib, not really see an angle for a bad paprika generally, and ur defense of samu enough sense to be genuine
I think you are mafia. Thoughts?
Kinda don’t believe you, so will see where that goes, but are entitled to your onion mr. paprika. I’m town, so
Why would I lie if I'm town?

reaction gauging imo, kinda “scumy” in a literal sense but it has utility, and I don’t have reason distrust that yet

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:34 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:32 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:27 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:16 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:46 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:20 am Ahh wait, i can change my vote now.

[VOTE: Cat] aubergine

Dont like fluff posters
What do you think about sloonei?
What do you think about sloonei?
Hekkatown
Why?
I like the cut of ya jib, not really see an angle for a bad paprika generally, and ur defense of samu enough sense to be genuine
I think you are mafia. Thoughts?

Kinda don’t believe you, so will see where that goes, but are entitled to your onion mr. paprika. I’m town, so

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:27 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:16 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:46 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:20 am Ahh wait, i can change my vote now.

[VOTE: Cat] aubergine

Dont like fluff posters
What do you think about sloonei?
What do you think about sloonei?
Hekkatown
Why?

I like the cut of ya jib, not really see an angle for a bad paprika generally, and ur defense of samu enough sense to be genuine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:16 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:46 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:20 am Ahh wait, i can change my vote now.

[VOTE: Cat] aubergine

Dont like fluff posters
What do you think about sloonei?
What do you think about sloonei?

Hekkatown

mewtini wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:45 am (my two cents is that i also don’t entirely jam with the playstyle, but i’m very hesitant to just call unfamiliar playstyles scummy esp in a new group; noting here that i’m a little frustrated by alison characterizing my “i don’t do hard scumreads d1” as a hedge + that she seemingly asked a question in the hopes of receiving a specific answer?)

top scum read? or is that the thing you don't do on d1???

cat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:11 am [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Based on observation. Too calm and methodical.

i see it, and this is kinda amazing

but like the timing here feels all sorts of weird. cat is getting sused, needs to contribute, and throws shade at alison for being alison...yeah this is her mo, and someone calling someone sus for an mo is a thing, but like this is really on the nose at a really convenient time for cat

Samusamu wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:20 am Ahh wait, i can change my vote now.

[VOTE: Cat] aubergine

Dont like fluff posters

What do you think about sloonei?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:24 am
cat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:48 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:16 pm Cat, Samusamu, syn, and Mewtini please explain yourselves
I Refuse.
you're the only person in this town that I respect

this a meme or like....?

cat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:57 am
Made wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:05 pm cat is a duck, and i do not like that
It's a goose.
I don't like you being wrong .
[VOTE: Made] aubergine

if it walks like a duck, quack like a duck....

what are your reads silly goose?

mewtini wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:53 pm in particular because of how early into the phase it was
felt like priming to me even though i think i agree it is a town-important thing to talk about at some point, esp considering that it's unholsterable; setting up an inactive kill felt like a strange move right out of the gate

quickly noting here that i don't play by making true scumreads on d1

...so you make false scum reads? what you mean??

cat is a duck, and i do not like that

Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:53 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:44 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:52 pm
Spoiler: show
Made wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:30 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:18 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:05 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:02 pm (Wtf, this happen to me for translating what i want to say in a word and copypaste it here.)

Hahaha, Good way to twist what I say.

The first thing is that I don't want to cut the conversation about the shooting. On the contrary, I stopped for a second to give my opinion on a particular case. (Hero shooting)

I have never said that not talking about the shooting is optimal, rather I am being part of that conversation while making my own assessment.

The scenario is feasible from the moment you can say, hey, today I can fire a shot. But that's not what's important

The important thing, and to finish this off a bit, is that I haven't said that your reasoning isn't legitimate, but that the way it's done gives me mafia-like feelings, and that's why you have my vote.

What have you done in return? Easy, resorting to the countervote without giving many explanations. To make matters worse, I seem to you scum since I voted for you and I have said why, if I had avoided quoting you and passing by I would not have said vote, since previously you had not quoted me nor mentioned that you think I am scum.

This makes me think that either you are a tremendously visceral player or that you just want to dirty the thread in a futile exchange.baddie

I reaffirm that you post as a scum does prototypically, so for the time being my vote will remain with you a while longer.

The game continues.
this is word salady af. I don't see how this kind of staging is helps us when it hasn't happened, it just will create more confusion when/if it does, which serves scum
Wow!

I'm saying why i read someone scum, and finishing that thought, that is very confuse, haha no.
You just used the word prototypical. This is some syergistic corporate megalamanic viscerlony baloney my friend

get rid of the words and you get "yeah, uhhh no me? no u!! anyways wifom anyone?"

I dont understand this post.
I was saying that I thought your post was wordy, and that it was wordy to hide your straight forward point that could make things more confusing later on.. Now that I know about the language gap, I still think that your take is sus, but i'm putting less weight into word choice

dropping this wifom mess, and dropping a vote on [VOTE: samusamu] aubergine
Sorry but i dont hide any straight. This is just you thinking that u are cool saying that or something else cause u didnt give a real reason to say that i'm hiding something o i'm not being clear.

Your vote sound like excuses to me to make a vote. No more, no less.

Confusion benefits baddies, but you are entitled to your opinion Mr. Bad
(fun fact! my name on other website is "made cool"!)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:44 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:43 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:34 pm [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

For very good, very legitimate reasons.
Sloonie my dear, what are you're thoughts on shots and my back and forth with Samu
you are both town

Okay, then who isn't?

....or not? I can't vote???? did i miss something?

Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:52 pm
Spoiler: show
Made wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:30 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:18 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:05 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:02 pm (Wtf, this happen to me for translating what i want to say in a word and copypaste it here.)

Hahaha, Good way to twist what I say.

The first thing is that I don't want to cut the conversation about the shooting. On the contrary, I stopped for a second to give my opinion on a particular case. (Hero shooting)

I have never said that not talking about the shooting is optimal, rather I am being part of that conversation while making my own assessment.

The scenario is feasible from the moment you can say, hey, today I can fire a shot. But that's not what's important

The important thing, and to finish this off a bit, is that I haven't said that your reasoning isn't legitimate, but that the way it's done gives me mafia-like feelings, and that's why you have my vote.

What have you done in return? Easy, resorting to the countervote without giving many explanations. To make matters worse, I seem to you scum since I voted for you and I have said why, if I had avoided quoting you and passing by I would not have said vote, since previously you had not quoted me nor mentioned that you think I am scum.

This makes me think that either you are a tremendously visceral player or that you just want to dirty the thread in a futile exchange.baddie

I reaffirm that you post as a scum does prototypically, so for the time being my vote will remain with you a while longer.

The game continues.
this is word salady af. I don't see how this kind of staging is helps us when it hasn't happened, it just will create more confusion when/if it does, which serves scum
Wow!

I'm saying why i read someone scum, and finishing that thought, that is very confuse, haha no.
You just used the word prototypical. This is some syergistic corporate megalamanic viscerlony baloney my friend

get rid of the words and you get "yeah, uhhh no me? no u!! anyways wifom anyone?"

I dont understand this post.

I was saying that I thought your post was wordy, and that it was wordy to hide your straight forward point that could make things more confusing later on.. Now that I know about the language gap, I still think that your take is sus, but i'm putting less weight into word choice

dropping this wifom mess, and dropping a vote on [VOTE: samusamu] aubergine

Word, respect. keeping my sus, but tossing the knife. I don't know what the word prototypical means, and big words threaten me general, so that much might just be on me

Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:18 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:05 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:02 pm (Wtf, this happen to me for translating what i want to say in a word and copypaste it here.)

Hahaha, Good way to twist what I say.

The first thing is that I don't want to cut the conversation about the shooting. On the contrary, I stopped for a second to give my opinion on a particular case. (Hero shooting)

I have never said that not talking about the shooting is optimal, rather I am being part of that conversation while making my own assessment.

The scenario is feasible from the moment you can say, hey, today I can fire a shot. But that's not what's important

The important thing, and to finish this off a bit, is that I haven't said that your reasoning isn't legitimate, but that the way it's done gives me mafia-like feelings, and that's why you have my vote.

What have you done in return? Easy, resorting to the countervote without giving many explanations. To make matters worse, I seem to you scum since I voted for you and I have said why, if I had avoided quoting you and passing by I would not have said vote, since previously you had not quoted me nor mentioned that you think I am scum.

This makes me think that either you are a tremendously visceral player or that you just want to dirty the thread in a futile exchange.baddie

I reaffirm that you post as a scum does prototypically, so for the time being my vote will remain with you a while longer.

The game continues.
this is word salady af. I don't see how this kind of staging is helps us when it hasn't happened, it just will create more confusion when/if it does, which serves scum
Wow!

I'm saying why i read someone scum, and finishing that thought, that is very confuse, haha no.

You just used the word prototypical. This is some syergistic corporate megalamanic viscerlony baloney my friend

get rid of the words and you get "yeah, uhhh no me? no u!! anyways wifom anyone?"

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