He wasn’t trying to deepwolf. He was caught wolf yesterday. Lucy (if wolf) is the one they were trying to deepwolf.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:17 pmI just don’t see falcon’s play with Vivax and Lucy as partners as compatible as I can see someone trying to deepwolf. I know it looks obvious but like…I feel like falcon would have played harder or something if we already suspected his 2 potential partners in Vivax/lucy yesterday.Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:12 pmIf Lucy a bad her partner is Falcon honestly I don’t know what is with everyone wanting to clear Falcon for terrible reasons.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:07 pm Back on topic:
Lucy is in finals week right now, which explains her absence, but has had enough wherewithal to post a few snarky one-liners today like:
‘You’re not allowed to post when dead’
‘I can’t read’
‘Neon is scum’
What can I do with that?
I think Lucy is bad and her partner is probably already voting her.
With bad lucy, I’d be willing to write off Neon, Rondo and falcon.
I am not clearing him, I just find it more likely from an optimal winning mafia strategy for there to be a deepwolf
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
Townread for using the word bullsuitScotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:16 pmIt makes sense for her partner to be involved with bussing her for cred at this point. Otherwise, they’re just a hanging dingleberry for endgame.Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:11 pmWhy do you think her partner is on her already? And, if Lucy flips town how does that change this?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:07 pm Back on topic:
Lucy is in finals week right now, which explains her absence, but has had enough wherewithal to post a few snarky one-liners today like:
‘You’re not allowed to post when dead’
‘I can’t read’
‘Neon is scum’
What can I do with that?
I think Lucy is bad and her partner is probably already voting her.
With bad lucy, I’d be willing to write off Neon, Rondo and falcon.
The only person in my PoE on Lucy right now is Splints.
I mean, of course if Lucy is town this changes things. I’d still lean falcon as the scum if not lucy. Though that would leave another most likely deep wolf, but different interactions and different confidences for potential deep wolves.
It also sounds like Neon has been setting up ‘if Lucy flips town, Scotty is wolf’ so hopefully we won’t have to deal with that bullsuit, but I’m for sure apparently a potential deepwolf for pushing townlucy
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:15 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
I can’t really ask/tell anyone what to do with their powers but boy do I hope Falcon gets copped if he isn’t elimmed today.fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:13 pmI want to clear falcon for terrible reasons because I have suspected him a lot for terrible reasons and been wrong.Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:12 pmIf Lucy a bad her partner is Falcon honestly I don’t know what is with everyone wanting to clear Falcon for terrible reasons.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:07 pm Back on topic:
Lucy is in finals week right now, which explains her absence, but has had enough wherewithal to post a few snarky one-liners today like:
‘You’re not allowed to post when dead’
‘I can’t read’
‘Neon is scum’
What can I do with that?
I think Lucy is bad and her partner is probably already voting her.
With bad lucy, I’d be willing to write off Neon, Rondo and falcon.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:13 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
If this post is actually Scotty distancing it will be my favourite post of the game.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:07 pm Back on topic:
Lucy is in finals week right now, which explains her absence, but has had enough wherewithal to post a few snarky one-liners today like:
‘You’re not allowed to post when dead’
‘I can’t read’
‘Neon is scum’
What can I do with that?
I think Lucy is bad and her partner is probably already voting her.
With bad lucy, I’d be willing to write off Neon, Rondo and falcon.
(It’s not).
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:12 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
If Lucy a bad her partner is Falcon honestly I don’t know what is with everyone wanting to clear Falcon for terrible reasons.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:07 pm Back on topic:
Lucy is in finals week right now, which explains her absence, but has had enough wherewithal to post a few snarky one-liners today like:
‘You’re not allowed to post when dead’
‘I can’t read’
‘Neon is scum’
What can I do with that?
I think Lucy is bad and her partner is probably already voting her.
With bad lucy, I’d be willing to write off Neon, Rondo and falcon.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:10 pm
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I was so close.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:10 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
Busy today… not to say I won’t be here at all, but I don’t know exactly when…
So, a legacy rainbow.
People I would not elim short of the cop showing up with a red peek
SVS
Fingersplints
Neon
Roxy
Seanzie
People who could reasonably be deepwolves, but I’d only consider closer to lylo
Dennis
Rondo
If Lucy flips town, he’s worth another look
Scotty
Wolves unless the cop comes in with a green peek
Lucy
Falcon
Lucy could easily be up a tier with Scotty, but in my mind if we elim within those three and cop/deputy manage a peek within the other two we’re in good shape. I wouldn’t elim Scotty today though, he’s definitely a tier above Lucy in that sense.
So, a legacy rainbow.
People I would not elim short of the cop showing up with a red peek
SVS
Fingersplints
Neon
Roxy
Seanzie
People who could reasonably be deepwolves, but I’d only consider closer to lylo
Dennis
Rondo
If Lucy flips town, he’s worth another look
Scotty
Wolves unless the cop comes in with a green peek
Lucy
Falcon
Lucy could easily be up a tier with Scotty, but in my mind if we elim within those three and cop/deputy manage a peek within the other two we’re in good shape. I wouldn’t elim Scotty today though, he’s definitely a tier above Lucy in that sense.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:01 pm
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- Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:58 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
I’m genuinely not sure which side of my foot I’d call the back lolScotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:57 pmIs that not the phrase?Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:39 pmWhich side of your foot is the back?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:30 pmI think having a read on your family is one thing in general practice- I would hazard to say that playing a first mafia game with lying and deceit…might surprise a family member that thinks they know that person like the back of their footGolden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:27 pmMy deepwolves would be Dennis, rondo.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:21 pm I’ll look to expand on this, but since we’re playing Nostradamus with preflipping people, I think most likely deepwolves if Lucy is bad are, in order:
Dennis > Golden > Neon.
I think Neon is a streeeetch because even though she says she has had to hard defend her wolfmates before, this is laying it on a bit too thick to be compatible.
Dennis is someone that continues to echo my thoughts and most reads in this game and its bugging me out
I’m not really in on any world where neon is wolf. And I do believe she is within ‘wolf range’ although I think her self-reason for saying she isn’t is probably genuine.
Call this a ‘golden spotting a kindred spirit’ read. I have more confidence in that, than I have in Kate’s read of Dennis, and that’s saying something because I am putting a lot of weight on Kate’s read of Dennis.
Edit: it is not. When I google ‘like the back of my foot’ I get a WebMD condition for Achilles tendinitis.
It’s back of your hand. Duh. Come on everybody, everybody knows that well known phrase. Come on.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:49 pm
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- Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:42 pm
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Flashwagons in a world with two living cops who could have up to four different green peeks between them isn’t great.
There’s a reason I keep pushing consensus this game… we should be able to weed out those who have been peeked and avoid elimming them by taking into account a broad range of perspectives.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:39 pm
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Which side of your foot is the back?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:30 pmI think having a read on your family is one thing in general practice- I would hazard to say that playing a first mafia game with lying and deceit…might surprise a family member that thinks they know that person like the back of their footGolden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:27 pmMy deepwolves would be Dennis, rondo.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:21 pm I’ll look to expand on this, but since we’re playing Nostradamus with preflipping people, I think most likely deepwolves if Lucy is bad are, in order:
Dennis > Golden > Neon.
I think Neon is a streeeetch because even though she says she has had to hard defend her wolfmates before, this is laying it on a bit too thick to be compatible.
Dennis is someone that continues to echo my thoughts and most reads in this game and its bugging me out
I’m not really in on any world where neon is wolf. And I do believe she is within ‘wolf range’ although I think her self-reason for saying she isn’t is probably genuine.
Call this a ‘golden spotting a kindred spirit’ read. I have more confidence in that, than I have in Kate’s read of Dennis, and that’s saying something because I am putting a lot of weight on Kate’s read of Dennis.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:27 pm
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My deepwolves would be Dennis, rondo.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:21 pm I’ll look to expand on this, but since we’re playing Nostradamus with preflipping people, I think most likely deepwolves if Lucy is bad are, in order:
Dennis > Golden > Neon.
I think Neon is a streeeetch because even though she says she has had to hard defend her wolfmates before, this is laying it on a bit too thick to be compatible.
Dennis is someone that continues to echo my thoughts and most reads in this game and its bugging me out
I’m not really in on any world where neon is wolf. And I do believe she is within ‘wolf range’ although I think her self-reason for saying she isn’t is probably genuine.
Call this a ‘golden spotting a kindred spirit’ read. I have more confidence in that, than I have in Kate’s read of Dennis, and that’s saying something because I am putting a lot of weight on Kate’s read of Dennis.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:22 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
Thank you for the clarity.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:20 pmMy read on Falcon is a purely social read.Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:20 pmI’m trying to parse out the world where both mafia and doc target Falcon on night three and… it seems so unlikely but that’s what it feels like Sean is angling for.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:16 pmI don't think it's Falcon.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:15 pm I don’t want to presuppose that both falcon and Lucy are bad, and Neon is right in that the wolves aren’t giving a lot of options to win if lucy is bad. It really only makes sense if falcon is just playing in a hole and he’s just hoping town will cannibalize themselves looking at deep wolves or there really is a deepwolf that is sitting pretty. We’ll get there when we get there
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:20 pm
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I’m trying to parse out the world where both mafia and doc target Falcon on night three and… it seems so unlikely but that’s what it feels like Sean is angling for.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:16 pmI don't think it's Falcon.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:15 pm I don’t want to presuppose that both falcon and Lucy are bad, and Neon is right in that the wolves aren’t giving a lot of options to win if lucy is bad. It really only makes sense if falcon is just playing in a hole and he’s just hoping town will cannibalize themselves looking at deep wolves or there really is a deepwolf that is sitting pretty. We’ll get there when we get there
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:17 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]
Yeah this is a hard agree.
And I did think Lucy looked more compatible with a Falcon iso than you did.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:20 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
It’s worth noting that Falcon *specifically* introduced the idea that cop/deputy should check counterwagons, an idea I liked. I see no evidence anyone has actually checked Lucy because the cases against are all vibe based, so my sense is no one actually did what Falcon asked (I think I probably would have).
But it’s quite on the nose for me for Falcon to suggest that if his teammate is Lucy.
Bah im talking myself back out of this lol.
The thing for me that counterbalances that, though,?is I do see the case for Lucy and she is several peoples gut wolf read and I respect that.
But it’s quite on the nose for me for Falcon to suggest that if his teammate is Lucy.
Bah im talking myself back out of this lol.
The thing for me that counterbalances that, though,?is I do see the case for Lucy and she is several peoples gut wolf read and I respect that.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:16 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
I have been very clear that I prefer a Falcon vote to a lucy vote. SVS/fingersplints/scotty have been the Lucy leaders in my mind (which is also consistent with all of their thoughts on day two).Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:14 pmWas it not you and SVS that said we had to get Lucy? Why do you want to get Lucy and not Falcon if you're sure he's bad then?Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:02 pmI’ve been saying the wolves have already lost for days now.
From my perspective we have a town core of you, me, svs, Roxy, fingersplints, Dennis, rondo, Sean
That leaves only scotty, lucy, Falcon.
So in my mind falcon + 1 of Scotty/lucy gotta me bad.
I don’t hate the take it’s scotty and I don’t hate the take it’s Lucy.
But I do think elimming Falcon gives us one more night to resolve which of the two it is,
I just don’t think I’m successfully convincing anyone lol probably because of the sabi and soneji outcomes.
Personally the fact scotty didn’t get on board with Falcon but was willing to start a lucy train after I’d just done one post in that direction bothered me. So I don’t feel confident myself in resolving scotty/lucy. But I guess an elim of either of them would do it.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:04 pm
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But I think it’s really too late for me to do much convincing on that front and we’ll probably resolve scotty v lucy by elim today.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:02 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
I’ve been saying the wolves have already lost for days now.
From my perspective we have a town core of you, me, svs, Roxy, fingersplints, Dennis, rondo, Sean
That leaves only scotty, lucy, Falcon.
So in my mind falcon + 1 of Scotty/lucy gotta me bad.
I don’t hate the take it’s scotty and I don’t hate the take it’s Lucy.
But I do think elimming Falcon gives us one more night to resolve which of the two it is,
I just don’t think I’m successfully convincing anyone lol probably because of the sabi and soneji outcomes.
Personally the fact scotty didn’t get on board with Falcon but was willing to start a lucy train after I’d just done one post in that direction bothered me. So I don’t feel confident myself in resolving scotty/lucy. But I guess an elim of either of them would do it.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:56 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
They gave up yesterday. Why would they not give up today?Neon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:50 amHave you thought why I'm the only one defending lily in a game where there's 2 woofs left?S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:07 amEven with one vote deleted, this is what I have been saying. It's why I am trying so hard here to get people on the Lucy wagon. We can't afford miselims anymore as long as that exists in the game. And she is the only person the majority of us are not civ reading.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:45 am 11 people, majority at 4, 2 deaths today assuming doc fails is 9 minus 2 votes is 7 so we have 1 misyeet after today 2 total before we are in faux lylo if we don't hit vote deleter. So we gotta make these count or doc has to carry us even further on their back
If she's not bad, you guys eliminate me next.
Also, I have limited time today, and I want to spend it in my very singleminded way lol. Your "what if" exercises looked interesting but I'd probably have to read up more than I have time for today, I'll hit them up tomorrow (although if Lucy IS bad, and IS lynched, I don't expect to see tomorrow ha ha).
If lily is woof there should be more thread resistance. There has not been a single period of time where another wagon had more than 3 votes and that wagon was me Golden and Dennis.
That's 3 pretty universally town cored players. There's no resistance from lily there's no resistance from anyone but me. Why? Especially in this thread state.
There's 2 options. Last wolf is deep as fuck or lily is town.
Alternatively the woofs gave up.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:53 pm
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We hit blocker and then the deleter is vanillaRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:45 am 11 people, majority at 4, 2 deaths today assuming doc fails is 9 minus 2 votes is 7 so we have 1 misyeet after today 2 total before we are in faux lylo if we don't hit vote deleter. So we gotta make these count or doc has to carry us even further on their back
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:51 pm
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Step 2 is that every night is more info potential, so in this set up it’s beneficial to elim the most likely wolf and then have one more night directed at where the thread is looking? Maybe?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:59 amIf you want me on board with step one I need a well considered step 2. I know how crafty you can be
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:08 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
[VOTE:
lucy] aubergine
My Falcon wagon has evaporated. I reckon we should go back there tomorrow. Vivax laid down instead of fighting to get himself (the goon) elimmed when Falcon was the other possibility yesterday.
But it seems to me lucy is the closest thing to a consensus play today.
My Falcon wagon has evaporated. I reckon we should go back there tomorrow. Vivax laid down instead of fighting to get himself (the goon) elimmed when Falcon was the other possibility yesterday.
But it seems to me lucy is the closest thing to a consensus play today.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:35 am
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I also agree that splints/Lucy/vivax isn’t a world that makes sense (although I think I made this point already right at the start of the day).
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:34 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
My take on rondo is that coming in late has left him unable (or unwilling) to get the same reads from the thread that you can by interacting in the moment, and his votes are primarily about establishing those interactions to form his own reads.fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:21 am I’m trying to be open minded about Rondo, because the more he posts the worse I feel about him. But this isn’t the first game I’ve felt like that about him. Some players tend to post in a way that naturally seems suspicious, and I’m trying to see past that but idk. gonna see what other people think now.
I agree that his vote for Roxy is probably a vote against a townie but I don’t think his rationale (forgetting Roxy exists) is unfair given Roxy has only been around for one short oath since rondo joined.
I’ve townread the way rondo has approached the game. There’s some really different thought patterns that are interesting to me (eg, he’s willing to trust some shield posts until he sees good reason not to, but that doesn’t mean he won’t dig into it and form hos own reads).
Talking to you about this has made me realise I now townread rondo in his own right and not only because I townread bea.
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:16 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
Is that reason because you randed town?Neon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:12 amI'm well outside my known wolf range for one reason. I mean like I know about that reason so it's moot but you shouldn't know I know.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:21 pmI don't know your brother, but I do know neon and neon is in her wolf rangeDennis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:47 pmJack (my twin, and who was in Neon's slot) seemed uninterested, and he probably would've been more engaged if he was mafia. Especially with Mata as a partner according to SVS. Neon has also done a ton of analysis, but with her recent 'Hmmmm...'ing I am rethinking that, seeing as she appeared more noting of my 'Rip mom lol' joke than my list, I was looking forward to hearing her actual thoughts.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:35 pmWhy do you have neon so high?Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:01 pm Weee rainbow list!!
Me
Golden
SVS
Scotty/Neon
Rondo
Roxy
Seanzie
Splints/Lucy
Falcon
Roxy is townlean because she's not been able to have a conversation but all of her reads feel genuine.
Seanzie would be way lower if I didn't trust Golden. I'm not entirely convinced by the whole 'doc Seanzie' claim and if someone else flips Doc then everything has to be reconsidered.
Have it all, y'all
Actually I could potentially switch to Roxy here I haven't seen any impactful play from that slot I keep forgetting it exists
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:35 pm
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- Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:27 pm
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I’m quite fine being the one to swap of the two of us.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:13 pmI agree, but I would prefer Lucy. Short of falcon coming in here with a list of his victims, I don't see me changing my vote. I don't think anyone seems to be thinking she is townGolden wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:46 pmI think a two vote majority on any target to avoid a tie is essential, yeah. Even though I prefer Falcon I’ll vote Lucy today if it means avoiding vote manipulation shenanigans.
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:46 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
I think a two vote majority on any target to avoid a tie is essential, yeah. Even though I prefer Falcon I’ll vote Lucy today if it means avoiding vote manipulation shenanigans.
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:12 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
In any event, I don’t think the identity of the deleted vote is something we should plan on figuring out.
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:11 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
Even if Lucy is bad (and I think you have probably been right about this) I see no reason they are any less likely to delete my vote based on townreading just one of their members.
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:58 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
Me, onto mata and Falcon from the startS~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:27 pm This thread is hilarious, everyone thinks they were the NK targets.
I suppose I could see Lucy/Golden but I don't see Golden/Mata. As you say, how this lynch comes out will help me focus it somewhat. As of right now, I think he's town. But times change and so do minds.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:50 pm
Your tinfoil of golden mirrors mine. I think his game of self-assuredness is far messier and different than the last game. He has insisted multiple times he wins games as a deepwolf more often than not and is on a streak as such. That precedence niggles on my confidence all the time with him in that ‘he seems so town, but I DONT wanna be snowed by him again, so maybe the best move is to eliminate him before he gets there just in case.’ Which is a shitty way to approach it, because town golden is a strong player. That tinfoil hat is less tinfoil and more 3D-printed pseudo carbon fiber and a terrible fashion choice to be wearing around the farm. So I also am not pursuing it, but if we start eliminating what should be most likely candidates for wolves in lucy/falcon…and they’re both town…? I’m all for chopping golden.
I don’t think there are 2 town in falcon/lucy as of now. I can see a case where only 1 is wolf and someone else is propping them up, but I definitely feel like one of them going over today is integral to our solve.
I do agree that I like todays wagons, although I like the Lucy one more since I have actively sussed her as opposed to second hand suspicion re falcon, also I think it will say more about Golden than a falcon lynch would. But if we are doing the two wagons thing, this works for me. Although we need to keep in mind that *if* Lucy is bad, she, or her team, isn't ever cancelling Goldens vote (or trying to NK him).
“The baddies would never block, nk or vote block golden”
Nonsense.
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:28 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
Everything I hate about this post is because I’m neurodiverse but let’s just say I could not disagree more strenuously.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:26 pmNegative: Arsonists and Two-Hand Tapping Guitarists (host/mods/dead/non-players) - we are not hosts, mods, dead or non players. We are players. We must vote. If the Host wanted us to unvote or sleep he would have included the option in the poll. At this point in the thread Dennis is as good an unvote option as SVSGolden wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:24 pmI like the thread to reflect the truth. Nons is the unvote option.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:15 pmProbably because there is no unvote option, why are you worried about that? shouldnt he be locked doc for you and any action he does beyond reproach?
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:26 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 1]
i don’t remember a time either. Certainly not deep into a game.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:16 pmHave we been bad together? If so it was a looong time ago, I don’t recall it.Golden wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:01 pmAs relieved as I was to roll civ, if gman randomised a you/me wolf duo and then rolled again I’d be devastated.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:59 amALSO, I know G Man is a straight up guy, and if he said he randomized, he randomized. But if he randomized a Mafia team consisting of me, Golden and Matahari, he would re-randomize lol. It's not thread related, but it's what I think.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:49 amI don't see Mata/Vivax and Golden working together, regardless of the third party. I have to go back and reread them, but he was looking to her as bad fairly early, then she was sick and I think both he and I backed off her a bit becasue *Kate* didn't think she was bad. I suspected mata D1 or 2, but she kinda snapped back at me for it, and I tend to read her the opposite of Roxy. Roxy snaps at you when bad, Mata does it when civ. At least that is what I thought.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:39 amWhat about yourself SVS+Golden+Mata/Vivax. Why doesnt that work?Spoiler: show
But I guess I could be compatible with bad Golden, but I don't see how bad me, bad Golden and bad Mata would work together.
I have never done this type of analysis, it's helpful actually.
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:26 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
Also ‘that player is town’ is not the same as ‘I approve of everything that player does.’
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:24 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
I like the thread to reflect the truth. Nons is the unvote option.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:15 pmProbably because there is no unvote option, why are you worried about that? shouldnt he be locked doc for you and any action he does beyond reproach?
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:13 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
Seanzie’s vote is on Dennis
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:01 pm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 1]
As relieved as I was to roll civ, if gman randomised a you/me wolf duo and then rolled again I’d be devastated.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:59 amALSO, I know G Man is a straight up guy, and if he said he randomized, he randomized. But if he randomized a Mafia team consisting of me, Golden and Matahari, he would re-randomize lol. It's not thread related, but it's what I think.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:49 amI don't see Mata/Vivax and Golden working together, regardless of the third party. I have to go back and reread them, but he was looking to her as bad fairly early, then she was sick and I think both he and I backed off her a bit becasue *Kate* didn't think she was bad. I suspected mata D1 or 2, but she kinda snapped back at me for it, and I tend to read her the opposite of Roxy. Roxy snaps at you when bad, Mata does it when civ. At least that is what I thought.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:39 amWhat about yourself SVS+Golden+Mata/Vivax. Why doesnt that work?Spoiler: show
But I guess I could be compatible with bad Golden, but I don't see how bad me, bad Golden and bad Mata would work together.
I have never done this type of analysis, it's helpful actually.
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:56 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 1]
I think you are becoming more like me and I’m becoming more like you in some ways lol.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:49 amI don't see Mata/Vivax and Golden working together, regardless of the third party. I have to go back and reread them, but he was looking to her as bad fairly early, then she was sick and I think both he and I backed off her a bit becasue *Kate* didn't think she was bad. I suspected mata D1 or 2, but she kinda snapped back at me for it, and I tend to read her the opposite of Roxy. Roxy snaps at you when bad, Mata does it when civ. At least that is what I thought.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:39 amWhat about yourself SVS+Golden+Mata/Vivax. Why doesnt that work?Spoiler: show
But I guess I could be compatible with bad Golden, but I don't see how bad me, bad Golden and bad Mata would work together.
I have never done this type of analysis, it's helpful actually.
Mata/Falcon would have been my preferred day 1/2 elims if I was actually as determined to force everyone to do what I wanted as some people tend to think. Like you, I often get my best reads through interactions with me and I’ve wanted Falcon elimmed since the first moment he voted for me on day one, it hit me as insincere/wolfplay immediately.
Sabi is the only time I’ve been truly distracted from that. Even soneji I accepted as an elim through the lens he might be compatible as their third.
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:43 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:14 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
But that is lylo only for me.
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:14 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
And besides that, Dennis is town for sooooo many reasons. Yeah he could be deepwolf.
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:13 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
Scotty… someone in this thread, the real doctor, would have been shading the ever living shit out of me and Seanzie for the last two days if I was wrong.
No one has. There’s a bit of light tinfoil and that’s it.
No one has. There’s a bit of light tinfoil and that’s it.
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:11 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
That’s not what’s happening here.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:09 amI vote people I dont think are wolf all the time
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:10 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:06 am
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- Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:05 am
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- Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:41 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]
Falcon’s iso makes him clearly compatible with a mata/Lucy team in my mind, which is the world you think we’re in.