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by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:40 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:39 am
S~V~S wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:37 am These are in alphabetical order within the groupings, no real hierarchy. I don't like Rainbows in general, and haven't made many. So it's a shitty rainbow from a shitty rainbow maker.

Dennis
Scotty
Seanzie



fingersplints
Neon
RondoDimBuckle
Roxy


Golden

falcon45ca


lucy

I spent ALOT of time watching Dennis play after that Wilgy vote, I didn't care what his Mom said, and I don't think he's coached, he seemed to come into his own *in* the thread, not come into the thread that way, as if he was coached. Also if bad he would not have made that "RIP MOM!" post that way lol.

I know Scotty is not playing the same game as Game 1, but he's flying solo here and we have given him a lot less to work with datawise. There was that pocketing talk earlier, but I am not sure why Scotty would need to pocket me. Don't always agree, but everything he says seems to be coming from the right place.

I was on the other side of Seanzie day one when he thought I was bad, and I really believe he thought I was bad. That was not manufactured, he meant it. So he can't be bad. This is how PoE works, yes?

I went back and forth on Neon. I don't understand the vote info, and, unlike Kate I was not so sure Jack was good. But seeing Mata/Vivax flip bad, I think she would have tried to keep him engaged and helped him acclimate, I now think it is as Kate said, and maybe all of this overwhelmed him a bit. I know I was overwhelmed in my first game and i was like over 40 ha ha. So if I think Jack was not necessarily bad, nothing Neon has done makes me think that either.

Splints and Roxy are a less clear sort for me. I have felt Roxy was good from the get go, she's got that zen civvie vibe. I was less sure on Splints. The only thing keeping Roxy out of top group is her insistence that Splints was civvie. Like I believed Kate was civvie, but I don't know that I would have flatly said she WAS civvie. But it's semantics, and I myself loathe semantics as a hook, so meh. But I feel better about Splints than I did. So i grouped them together. As they should be.

I have never played with falcon. Can someone point me to a case that was made? He's right in the middle of my pack, and if I'm missing something I'd like to know what it is. He had that sketch association from Matas posts, with the light
waffles, but then pretty much everything she said was a waffle. Personally, I would rather elim Lucy since this will, I think, bring some clarity to the thread.
Matahari wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:45 am i want to post my thoughts so far, while I have a minute. They are definitely not deep thoughts, but how deep can they be on day 1?
New players get a pass, until later in the game. Absent players, as well.
if I don't mention you, its because I have you as town for now.

Falcon45ca- I didn't find it suspicious that you chose someone quickly because with movable votes, it seems like a lot of players throw votes around in a slap-happy fashion. then you were questioned about it, and you promptly posted quotes for why you made your vote. This looked legit to me at the time. Later it occurred to me that maybe you did all that too quickly, Pre-planned? But someone, Sabiplz, I think, said this was normal for your town game.

Soneji posted, I think, but I'll need to go back and look to make sure. ???

Lucy- so far, is reminding me of Dr. Wilgy. Too random to read, and weird posting just annoys me because I don't know what to do with it. I'd like to hear from players who are familiar with them.

Seanzie made a very risky statement for a town player to make. Or just an 'I can't be bothered' statement. Since it was preceded by an 'Ugh', I'm going with the former.

Sabiplz drew attention to his post, then backed away from it, then said she rarely voted early or often, then 17 minutes later she voted for Seanzie. None of this feels right.

Golden got a vote from Falcon, and although Falcon's reasons would not be enough to convince me to vote someone, I thought they were ok for a day 1. However after post 486 ( I think, I'll go back and check later and do an ebwop if necessary), I have Golden as town.

Marmot, no clue. I'd like to hear what other players think of him. ???

Everyone else, I have as probably town. I have no absolutes this early, but I'm watching the players above who pinged me. I'd like to hear what other players think of my not so deep thoughts, please.
I put Golden in the middle as a null and maybe it's not fair, since i would actually be very surprised if he turned up bad, either with Lucy if she is ( :srsnod: ) or not with her if she isn't. I don't see the same bad Golden who had a very real looking aggressive one/one with his bad teammate in Game 1 blatantly vouching for bad teammates, or blatantly clearing people on feels if town.

But like I said, I need to sort Lucy and see what he has to say about it all if she is bad.
I recommend rethinking Falcon.
Why?
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:24 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Woohoo you go svs.

I was hoping an info role would have peeked Lucy by now too but I see no evidence that’s the case. Sorry for misleading you with my read.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:42 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

That's the end of my falcon isoing, night peeps.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:40 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:26 am The EoD VC continually makes me more and more paranoid.
It's very evident the wolves made zero attempts to save Vivax. Even Vivax's posts were all but saying 'yeah, I'm caught wolf'.

I think it should make you less 'paranoid' and more 'no one gets cred' - nevertheless, the evidence still points at Falcon.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:38 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Falcon was also a lower end poster in my book, although not so much as a mata/bea.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:38 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

fingersplints wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:27 am
Golden wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:17 am
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:17 pm Nah, their ISO ain't so bad.



[VOTE: lucy] aubergine
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:25 pm
lucy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:18 pm falcon, besides me and seanzie who do u suspect
I can see Sabi as wolf fo sho. Soneji, Golden
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:26 pm
lucy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:24 pm i’m still phone posting but i extremely dislike the fact that we aren’t voting inactives out
Puh-leeze, it's D2. I'm not trashin' slankers yet, far more often than not they are Town
An exchange between Falcon and Lucy. Interested in thoughts on whether this is clearly indicative one way or the other (wolfmates, or not wolfmates).
Who is the first where he says the iso isn’t bad?

So for the last quote: people’s stance on inactives is actually something we should probably be scrutinising now more that it turns out one of the mafia was an inactive. Low posters like me and Roxy saying “no don’t go after low posters” makes sense because we are always low posters lol but a couple wolf possibilities here

Lucy, the wolf, looking to bus mata/vivax
Falcon, the wolf, doesn’t want attention on low posters because mata/vivax (notice his response has a “yet” there, making for an easy out if he needed to vote there)

I don’t remember withers stance on slanking from previous games to decide if either of these could be NAI
The first was Roxy
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:36 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

fingersplints wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:31 am
Golden wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:20 am
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:18 pm
Soneji wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:16 pm
lucy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:13 pm bad read, but i understand ur trying to save sabi
Nice deflection :rolleyes:
OK, thats pretty towny actually


[VOTE: lucy] aubergine
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:19 pm If Lucy flips wolf, let's get Sean
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:41 pm [VOTE: sabi] aubergine
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:50 pm [VOTE: someji] aubergine
However, this progression at the end of day 2... being willing to vote Lucy and setting up the next elim, but then voting soneji at the end of the day after the reason for his lucy vote was that soneji had done something 'pretty towny' is all sorts of off.
Also the “let’s get Sean” is interesting if we are thinking it’s falcon/lucy here. Very definitely something I could see a mafia saying about their teammate to try and set groundwork for town miselim next day
100%
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:35 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]

falcon45ca wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:10 pm
fingersplints wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:42 am You are discrediting yourself by being wrong. I posted to you because I still think you are a civ, and you are putting yourself out there as the town leader but are very focused on specific people still. You can say you are constantly evaluating your town core, and I do believe you are flirting with the idea of others outside that PoE but I do not believe you are seriously entertaining that it is possible.

I’m not mad. Eliminate me but when you get that civ flip don’t just shrug and move on with that list, but actually reevaluate this towncore of yours. I’m on my way out the door so I don’t have time to figure out how many more mistakes we can make, but I’m guessing you maybe get one more chance to get it right after I am eliminated.
Do you feel they should re evaluate their town core because that town core is misleading them?


Why does your green flip mean their town core must be re addressed?
Someone is OK with me elimming my town core. Also a good look for scotty, and for the idea I'm townreading a wolf on day 4.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:33 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]

falcon45ca wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:30 pm
Golden wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:13 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

While everyone else is like ‘wtf’, he’s calmly laying out a countercase the mafia have had time to think about,
Oh, he got me.
This comes after five consecutive posts of falcon trying to convince people Sean wouldn't have protected me.

There were some other people like 'why did you do that', others who were 'golden, you could be wrong', but no one other than falcon was so invested in trying to discredit what I'd laid out.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:31 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]

falcon45ca wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:47 pm
Dennis wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:41 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:39 pm There’s no way that Soneji wagon was clean
This is exactly what I was thinking. I think today we have to vote one of the six who were on the Soneji wagon so:

Golden, falcon, Lucy, SVS, fingersplints, Kate

I assume everyone agrees Kate and SVS both aren't bad, so that brings us to

Golden, falcon, Lucy, fingersplints
Fingersplints needs pressure for sure
Falcon was willing to vote Lucy earlier when he thought she'd flip, but here on day 4 when Dennis lists both him and Lucy, it's fingersplints that needs pressure (and he follows it up with a vote).

This is one of the 'oh, splints is town after all' posts for me.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:22 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

Neon wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:21 am
Golden wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:17 am
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:17 pm Nah, their ISO ain't so bad.



[VOTE: lucy] aubergine
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:25 pm
lucy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:18 pm falcon, besides me and seanzie who do u suspect
I can see Sabi as wolf fo sho. Soneji, Golden
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:26 pm
lucy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:24 pm i’m still phone posting but i extremely dislike the fact that we aren’t voting inactives out
Puh-leeze, it's D2. I'm not trashin' slankers yet, far more often than not they are Town
An exchange between Falcon and Lucy. Interested in thoughts on whether this is clearly indicative one way or the other (wolfmates, or not wolfmates).
What if I said they are both town
I'd disagree.

I'm not entertaining a world in which falcon is town. I don't think it exists. Mata spewed him wolf from the start.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:21 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

fingersplints wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:17 am @golden was it you who asked for the rainbow reads. I want to reread some (mostly mata, falcon, lucy, and then others but already a lot for me lol)

So here is town top, mafia bottom. In order with deliberate spacing lol
I CBA with the colours on my phone sorry

Roxy



Golden

Neon
SVS



Dennis
Falcon
Rondo
Scotty
Seanzie




Lucy
It was. Appreciated. I think I've been more influenced to date by people seeing town lucy than by those who don't trust her, definitely revisiting that atm.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:20 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:18 pm
Soneji wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:16 pm
lucy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:13 pm bad read, but i understand ur trying to save sabi
Nice deflection :rolleyes:
OK, thats pretty towny actually


[VOTE: lucy] aubergine
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:19 pm If Lucy flips wolf, let's get Sean
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:41 pm [VOTE: sabi] aubergine
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:50 pm [VOTE: someji] aubergine
However, this progression at the end of day 2... being willing to vote Lucy and setting up the next elim, but then voting soneji at the end of the day after the reason for his lucy vote was that soneji had done something 'pretty towny' is all sorts of off.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:17 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:17 pm Nah, their ISO ain't so bad.



[VOTE: lucy] aubergine
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:25 pm
lucy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:18 pm falcon, besides me and seanzie who do u suspect
I can see Sabi as wolf fo sho. Soneji, Golden
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:26 pm
lucy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:24 pm i’m still phone posting but i extremely dislike the fact that we aren’t voting inactives out
Puh-leeze, it's D2. I'm not trashin' slankers yet, far more often than not they are Town
An exchange between Falcon and Lucy. Interested in thoughts on whether this is clearly indicative one way or the other (wolfmates, or not wolfmates).
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:15 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

Soneji wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:51 am Current suspects :

Seanzie
Matahari
lucy


sabi to a lesser extent, but I've liked their posting outside of their interactions with Marmot
Boy I hate that we ended on soneji instead of matahari on day three (sorry soneji, still my biggest regret). It's quite possible he had 2/3 here, and we helped the wolves with their dirty work if so.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:11 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:20 am
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:18 am
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:09 am
Dennis wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:01 am By the way I am still waiting on a reason that @falcon45ca voted Seanzie and I don't like that they just dropped a vote and ran. Even if it's just something like 'same as day 1' (which should probably be reconsidered now but whatever) I don't see a good civ reason for doing that.
I never run.



I skip, saunter, sprint, or stroll...



but RUN???



Nevah




I am voting Sean cuz' I don't see why they're still not POE. Marmot tossing Wilgy out when Wilgy's actions were very clearly NAI for D1 Wilgy...not too keen on that I must say.



Honorable scum mention to Sabi, Lucy, & Soneji
Tell me about Soneji.

Marmot was town, how does that affect your thoughts?
Marmot died eh? Well, I guess I outta read back a bit
Can I tell you how much I hate this 'townslip'. Hate it.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:10 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:09 am
Dennis wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:01 am By the way I am still waiting on a reason that @falcon45ca voted Seanzie and I don't like that they just dropped a vote and ran. Even if it's just something like 'same as day 1' (which should probably be reconsidered now but whatever) I don't see a good civ reason for doing that.
I never run.



I skip, saunter, sprint, or stroll...



but RUN???



Nevah




I am voting Sean cuz' I don't see why they're still not POE. Marmot tossing Wilgy out when Wilgy's actions were very clearly NAI for D1 Wilgy...not too keen on that I must say.



Honorable scum mention to Sabi, Lucy, & Soneji
First mention of Lucy. Would fit with the rule of three.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:08 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 1]

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:58 pm
Scotty wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:55 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:50 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:49 pm Marmot really did rand mafia huh
Marmot always rands Mafia but will sometimes use priv to edit flips before anyone sees them.
(as I'm not aware of the climate of this game and it's players, please note this is entirely satire)
You coming into this thread is like a cold breeze blowing in on a hot day to aerate the undercarriage under my kilt. Appreciate your energy, doc
Scotty is officially a flirty pockety pock
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:50 am
S~V~S wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:44 am
Seanzie wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:52 am
S~V~S wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:34 am
Dennis wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:30 am
Scotty wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:58 am
Dennis wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:44 am I don't feel too great making a decision without at least hearing from everyone first. It feels like some people have been way too absent to make a good call. For now, I feel good about SVS, Kate, and Marmot. Scotty has been very inquisitive, but that's not necessarily AI; Seanzie and SVS feels more like a misunderstanding IMO. Golden has been back and forth and it's scaring me very far away from them.
I appreciate your thoughts!

Don’t take this the wrong way- I’m just being inquisitive after all- but how do you know what is alignment indicative of me if we’ve never played together before?
I made an assumption. I don't actually know but I'm pretty sure you just like questions. My point was I don't think you're suspicious because of that.
I learned something new here. I thought "Alignment Indicative" meant in general, like say posting a lot of OT, or asking a lot of questions, *in general* is not AI. I did not realize it is a specific thing for an individual. Like I would say "AI" in general, and "AI for Scotty" if I was comparing it to his specific meta. I've been using it wrong.
IME it means both/could mean either depending on context.
Thank you, that’s what I thought. It just seemed that Scotty was implying Dennis misused the term so it confused me.

I have mixed feels on Scotty. I know he plays a very analytical game, and there’s not much to analyze before the first elimination. So I’m low keying my expectations of him a bit until Day 2.

But he also seems to be on the same thing as Lucy re Dennis, albeit on a lesser scale. That bothers me a bit. Sabiplz said she thinks Scotty’s buddying me. I didn’t get that feeling. We just finished a game where we we both town, and he low key suspected me pretty much the whole game. So I was just thinking that having just watched me closely in that game, he had a better feel for my town game.

But I also know I can be susceptible to that, so her saying it makes me more aware to watch for it.
Scotty feels pockety thus far, to both myself and Wilgy
Both of these live quite early in the falcon iso. Initial gut check is this is a good look for scotty (assuming falcon flips wolf).
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:34 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Honestly I think we’ve had a fucking stellar towncore in this game.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:34 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:30 am I gotta be honest the best way to handle me is just kill me D1.

My woof win rate is high my town win rate is low.
My everything win rate is high on this site where you can where dead.

It was nil back on sites where I had to be alive to win and always rolled town lol.

You’re doing an excellent job of towning in this game. Your reads of Roxy and svs in particular have been instrumental to my thinking, the fact we both independently trust them is helpful.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:29 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:29 am
Golden wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:27 am I will never, ever buy neon saying ‘this is out of my wolf range’ in my life.
This is out of my woof range
And you know I’m right not to.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:27 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

I will never, ever buy neon saying ‘this is out of my wolf range’ in my life.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:23 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

fingersplints wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:17 am
Scotty wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:03 am The more I think about it- i don’t ever see a world with splints/Roxy w/w.

I currently read Roxy as Townlean but that could fluctuate. I’ve liked the output she’s put out.
The possibility of her being wolf makes sense if you believe her firm townread of splints is TMI. I don’t currently think that
What a wolf gain from so ardently defending town? She defended me to literally the entire thread at one point lol
I mean I get wolves will sometimes slight defend as to not look too bad when there is a town flip, but not to this degree. Wouldn’t make sense
I agree, especially from Roxy. Maybe I’d do it, I don’t think Roxy ever would.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:23 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

fingersplints wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:19 am My town lean on falcon is definitely waning but I’d prefer lucy chop today
I’d be interested in your thoughts on the mata/Falcon interactions
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:09 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:05 am I rarely do my NKs based on fear and it's served me well.
Lol in the anniversary game the whole spec chat was screaming ‘golden is mafia’ and I knew they would be but I got em first.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:07 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Also ‘Kate wasn’t leading the charge into woofs’ is such a misread imo lol she was literally the core of the towncore but I guess to some others she was cheap and simple lol.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:00 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 108762

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:58 am
Golden wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:51 am
Neon wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:50 am
Golden wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:48 am If Dennis if mafia I don’t think it takes until day four to kill Kate tbh.
Why? Kate has been hard defending Dennis. Surely mafia does not kill Kate. Not only that but Kate has minimal sus but wasn't exactly leading the charge into woofs.
Fear. Mum can flip her take in an instant.
Fear is a horrible reason to kill Kate in this game state.
The game state would have been different might 2 and let’s when I reckon she would have gone. But maybe I’m wrong.

Also, I do all my nightkilled based on fear and it serves me well lol.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:59 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

fingersplints wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:55 am
Neon wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:38 am
Golden wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:22 am Neon, in my head you are the most critical person in this game that you and I get on the same page. You and I are seeing the game so differently, but with your strong town reads and mine I think we can build a consensus towncore.
Maybe one of my biggest weaknesses in mafia is my paranoia though.

It's also my greatest strength lol
Pretty sure Mr. paranoid Golden can relate to this lol
I adore neon she reminds me of me sooooo much
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:56 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

But also, I’m fairly certain Kate will have the right read on dennis so I wouldn’t touch that with a bargepole unless we’re getting closer to lylo and things are going poorly.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:54 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

I made sure Kate died by this point in anniversary out of fear and I’m not her son.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:51 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:50 am
Golden wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:48 am If Dennis if mafia I don’t think it takes until day four to kill Kate tbh.
Why? Kate has been hard defending Dennis. Surely mafia does not kill Kate. Not only that but Kate has minimal sus but wasn't exactly leading the charge into woofs.
Fear. Mum can flip her take in an instant.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:51 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

I genuinely cannot think of one. The best I can come up with is that wolves skipped the kill to get the doc to self-identify but that’s poor value.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:50 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

World*
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:49 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:48 am
Golden wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:43 am I don’t understand what these worlds are where this play makes sense as wolf. I can’t think of any where it makes a lick of sense.
Well Golden if you are a wolf you'd hardly ever say

Ah yes I mean surely I would do this as a wolf.
Ok, but explain to me any single works in which you doing this as wolf has value.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:48 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

If Dennis if mafia I don’t think it takes until day four to kill Kate tbh.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:47 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

What does black represent?
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:43 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

I don’t understand what these worlds are where this play makes sense as wolf. I can’t think of any where it makes a lick of sense.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:42 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:40 am
Golden wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:29 am Neon, freaking heck. I spent five pages of this game working to get on the same page as you. I don’t spend that effort on you as a wolf. I literally outed the doctor to do it.

I’ll ask you what I asked svs…. Why am I calling out that vivax feels like the goon to me IN THE THREAD if he’s my wolfmate?
I can think of plenty of worlds where wolf Golden would do exactly what you've done.

I can think of worlds where town Golden would to.

The problem is I can think of more value in wolf Golden outing a doc claim than I can town Golden.

But in other plays I see the opposite. And since this is how I read the game you are the greatest enigma.
If I am a wolf, surely I haven’t outed the doctor.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:31 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]

fingersplints wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:30 am
Roxy wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:42 pm Rondo no s Sherlock I am out now bc Ariya is way more important than this game <3
She is more important than everything <3 little cutie
Splints, you know Lucy too right? Keen for your thoughts.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:31 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

At every turn you can see my motivations and thought process have been exactly what I say they are. I have specifically explained to you why I’m out of my wolfrange. And I claimed the death save on night two FOR YOU. I wouldn’t have done it if I didn’t want you, specifically, to understand.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:29 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon, freaking heck. I spent five pages of this game working to get on the same page as you. I don’t spend that effort on you as a wolf. I literally outed the doctor to do it.

I’ll ask you what I asked svs…. Why am I calling out that vivax feels like the goon to me IN THE THREAD if he’s my wolfmate?
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:27 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:24 am
Golden wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:17 am
Neon wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:10 am
Golden wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:49 pm
S~V~S wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:46 pm
Golden wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:31 pm
S~V~S wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:21 pm

You are making me do paranoid with all these things you somehow know that the roles don’t account for.
You understand gut play. I’m not sure why everyone keeps looking in the roles… everything is my read of the dynamics of the thread. I wouldn’t be this open about it if there was some secret role-based thing for you to find.
How could you possibly know Vivax was the vanilla baddie? I’ve trusted you most of the game, and want to.

Who do you think would want to kill Kate?
I didn’t know. But the elim felt easy… like the wolves themselves were happy with the target.

I wanted to switch it back to Falcon for this reason, but it wasn’t worth rocking the boat particularly because it was just a gut read.

Question for you… if I’m wolf why do I say it? What if I spook everyone off my vanilla teammate and onto a power role instead?
However it isn't lost on me Golden that when you started getting pressure for being a thread leader in a thread where only town have died that a wolf finally died and ended up being the weakest wild role.

Tinfoil was gone but your posting today has brought it back though... minimally
I literally wanted the elim to be Falcon and called this out.
Often in mafia what we say isn't what we really mean
Then look at my iso. I’ve been banging on about the mata/Falcon pair all freaking game… while others (including you) have kept pushing back on me.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:23 am
Forum: Previous Heists
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Really keen for your rainbow and PoE @Neon
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:22 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon, in my head you are the most critical person in this game that you and I get on the same page. You and I are seeing the game so differently, but with your strong town reads and mine I think we can build a consensus towncore.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:20 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

I wanted the elim the day before to be mata.

For all the noise about ‘golden is a thread leader’ my number one goal in the game has been not to force my own way on people and to build towncore consensus. Only on day two was the elim my preference.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:17 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:10 am
Golden wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:49 pm
S~V~S wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:46 pm
Golden wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:31 pm
S~V~S wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:21 pm
Golden wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:16 pm Yeah, I thought Kate would be the target last night. Felt it in my bones.
You are making me do paranoid with all these things you somehow know that the roles don’t account for.
You understand gut play. I’m not sure why everyone keeps looking in the roles… everything is my read of the dynamics of the thread. I wouldn’t be this open about it if there was some secret role-based thing for you to find.
How could you possibly know Vivax was the vanilla baddie? I’ve trusted you most of the game, and want to.

Who do you think would want to kill Kate?
I didn’t know. But the elim felt easy… like the wolves themselves were happy with the target.

I wanted to switch it back to Falcon for this reason, but it wasn’t worth rocking the boat particularly because it was just a gut read.

Question for you… if I’m wolf why do I say it? What if I spook everyone off my vanilla teammate and onto a power role instead?
However it isn't lost on me Golden that when you started getting pressure for being a thread leader in a thread where only town have died that a wolf finally died and ended up being the weakest wild role.

Tinfoil was gone but your posting today has brought it back though... minimally
I literally wanted the elim to be Falcon and called this out.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:37 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

If Lucy is bad the wilgy wagon wasn’t clean lol. I’ll have to bite my hat.

Although Lucy was always the one person on it I thought it was possible I could be wrong about.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:33 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Scotty wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:25 am [VOTE: Lucy] aubergine

I’ll go down that path, Golden.
I still prefer Falcon as a sureish thing today and I think Lucy needs more work but it’s certainly a thread worth pulling/exploring.

Your overall take/what you find on Lucy is meaningful. Im looking forward to SVSs take too since she said she’s interested in revisiting.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:03 am
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Notably, the only time Matahari voted on a wagon was when Lucy was counterwagon. I went back to see what her posts were about it:
Matahari wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:07 pm I slept most of the day. I did not intend to.
I still have Sabi as a suspicion, for reasons mentioned on d1, but I have considered that maybe they really mistrusted Seanzie. Then they started to backpedal some, and I’m back to sq1.

Why did Falcon vote Seanzie? Maybe they gave a reason why in an earlier post, but I can’t remember now so I’ll ISO them later or tomorrow.

I don’t understand Lucy’s vote for Bea either, it seems a bad idea to go after low posters, just for being a low poster, this early. (It doesn’t help that I still feel so bad for suspecting Bea in the anni game 1)

I can’t remember what else I read earlier because I’m getting sleepy again but I know there’s more. I’ll post again after I sleep on it.
Matahari wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:35 pm Im awake for the moment, and caught up, I’m sick and I apologize for that. I like to be present in games but I didn’t see this winter crap coming on this early, so I’m going to do my best here
@Dennis I think you’re doing fabulous. If I didn’t know you through your mom, I would probably be suspicious of your performance and think you had a team. But I don’t think you are mafia at this time, because Ive heard you’re smart and driven to excel, and Kate probably helped prepare you well before the game ever started. My op could change, but I doubt it will.
@Scotty I am still susp of Sabi because her actions during day1 reminded me of old old-school mafia, when a wolf would start to build a case against someone by just slinging a little mud, and later, the teammates would join in and the result would be a miselim. But, nobody joined in right away. That gave me pause, like maybe I was seeing something that just wasn’t there. Then Sabi seemed to back off and give up and I still don’t like it. Unless Sabi flips, I’m not going to know anything for sure. And if she is bad, then I’ll go back and look for anyone who might have subtly supported her.
I could see voting Lucy as a second choice, because I don’t like the reasoning behind her vote for Bea. Low posting is NAI and I don’t understand why someone would use that as criteria for a vote.
If I missed any other questions for me, please remind me. I’ll check in often.
Matahari wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:42 pm I’m going to vote while I’m up. Don’t want to miss it again. Voting [VOTE: sabiplz] aubergine for what I said earlier.
I'd say this isn't the greatest look for Lucy. Mata clearly prepped herself for the possibility of ending on Lucy but always preferred Sabi and without a doubt it's the most justifying mata ever did while in the game.
by Golden
Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:42 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

I’m out of ideas then

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