The Syndicate

Black Rock wrote:
G-Man wrote:
Ricochet wrote:OK then...I'm sorry if you already answered. I'll got through the linkitis after posting this.

Relicsmith - DF / Bass / G-Man (well, gee, good luck finding answers here)
-- What was your epic challenge?
My epic challenge was to last four days writing wacky Old Spice-themed posts. :P Actually, I never found out. I was told that my epic challenge would be sent to me once I was recruited. I totally forgot to ask our hosts what my epic challenge was after being recruited to Epi's team.
We discussed your epic challenge like this... "Oh shit! We forgot to give him that." "He's dying tonight anyways, meh"

:P

No harm, no foul. I completely forgot about it as well.

Ricochet wrote:OK then...I'm sorry if you already answered. I'll got through the linkitis after posting this.

Relicsmith - DF / Bass / G-Man (well, gee, good luck finding answers here)
-- What was your epic challenge?

My epic challenge was to last four days writing wacky Old Spice-themed posts. :P Actually, I never found out. I was told that my epic challenge would be sent to me once I was recruited. I totally forgot to ask our hosts what my epic challenge was after being recruited to Epi's team.

Ricochet wrote:-- Who did you target with the "boon" on D/N1 (if you did)?
-- Who did you power corrupt on D/N2 (and what was the corruption) (if you did)?
-- What item did you give and to whom on D/N4 (if you did)?
-- Who did you give a random item to on D/N5? (if you did)
-- Who did you power corrupt on D/N6 (and what was the corruption) (if you did)?
-- Who did you target with the "boon" on D/N8 (if you did)?
-- Who did you give a random item to on D/N9? (if you did)?

N/A- you'll have to get answers out of the other two for these days.

Ricochet wrote: -- What item did you give and to whom on D/N10 (if you did)?

The Mace of Justice. On Position #2, my item gives were negative items. It had a temporary positive power but a negative side-effect. I gave it to aapje because I thought it was curious that he hadn't died yet. The Mace of Justice would have allowed him to erase up to 15 lynch poll votes against him. The negative side-effect is that any votes erased with the Mace of Justice would be applied as secret votes the next day. Aapje would have thought it merely a vote eraser but it was really just a vote shifter.

Ricochet wrote:-- Who did you power corrupt on D/N11 (and what was the corruption) (if you did)?

I attempted to corrupt Nutella's power but I was blocked.

Ricochet wrote:-- What item did you give and to whom on D/N12 (if you did)?

I believe this was Position 3, a positive item give. I attempted to send Epi an invisibility cloak that would have protected him from NK's. The thing about items is that they aren't automatically used. Epi would have needed to receive it and could have used it N13. But we were both killed that night, so it didn't really matter.

Well done you sneaky, sneaky winners.

Fun fact: In my initial role, the Jilted Lover, I selected DFaraday to be my lover. My Epic Challenge was that if my lover and I both survived past Night 7, we could have won with each other's team and we would have had permanent BTSC. I picked DFaraday because he's got a decent history of flying under the radar and making it deep into games. I was freaking out when people started eyeing him up Day 1 and Day 2 for this very reason.

Even more fun fact: I chose DFaraday as my lover. When I subbed back in, I replaced Bass 2.0, who subbed in for DFaraday. I ended up being my former role's lover! On Night 3, I would have had temporary BTSC with my lover but I got killed before that came to be. Oh well.

Fun game, you hosty hosts. Sorry my participation was limited. With the baby due in almost exactly a month, I must step away from playing for a while. Don't worry though...

POSITION 2 LOOKS LIKE IT CARRIES THE MOST PAIN. NO PAIN, NO GAIN, NO BEARGLOVE. BRING THE PAIN SO WE CAN BRING THE BEARGLOVE!

G-Man wrote:
Players, does registering a vote for Nutella make your role feel like a never-ending tropical sunset? Personalized love song melody? Romantic puppy surprise? Yes.

HOLD UP! THAT'S THE SAME THING YOU SAID YESTERDAY!

Indeed. And your point is?

UH, WELL, ACTUALLY IT MEANS THAT YOU'VE RUN OUT OF IDEAS FOR YOUR SILLY LITTLE PRETTY-BOY POSTS. MAYBE YOU AND YOUR TOWEL SHOULD JUST GO HOME AND LET A REAL MAN TAKE OVER POSTING FOR THIS GAME.

Ah, my friend. I see that you are unfamiliar with the concept of working smarter, not harder. You see my opinion of Nutella remains unchanged and it only made sense to repeat that eloquent post from yesterday given the recycled nature of Old Spice body wash commercials. Think about it- how many times have you seen my gorgeous brown eyes say the same thing on TV and the inter-

NO, IT MEANS YOU'RE BUSTED!

Seriously friend, I think you need to stop chopping up and snorting your Bearglove deodorant. It's laced with levels of testosterone that cannot be contained inside a mere mortal body.

IS THAT WHY I'M ALWAYS YELLING?

I'm pretty sure that's it.

THEN THAT'S FREAKING AWESOME!

You disappoint me.

BEARGLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-
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Players, does registering a vote for Nutella make your role feel like a never-ending tropical sunset? Personalized love song melody? Romantic puppy surprise? Yes.

Hello again, players. Despite what this picture may make you think, I have not been lazing away on a romantic, exotic beach instead of following this game. No, I only smell like I've been lazing away on a romantic, exotic beach because I use Old Spice body wash instead of lady-scented body wash. In fact, I have been following this game quite clo-

BEARGLOVE!!!

My apologies, players. As I was saying, I have been following this game quite closely and need to go back and evaluate both Nutella and reywaS so as to make a fully-informed vo-

BEARGLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE!

Is that really necessary?

YES IT DOES BECAUSE ONLY BEARGLOVE CAN HELP YOU DO THIS!

Be serious, man. All Old Spice fragrances make you feel and smell like a man but they don't make your arms super-long. That's just a cheeky TV special effect designed to appeal to immature young men who aren't yet confident enough in their masculinity to use traditional and exotic Old Spice fragrances.

Why do you have to ruin my fun?

Because I have more important things to do with my time than argue with you. For instance, my to-do list for today includes hand-carving a gazebo out of a single redwood tree, perfecting a French braid, obtaining the rarest cacao beans from the indigenous Tapirapé people of the Amazon rainforest to make a romantic chocolate fondu, and making my mind up between Nutella and reywaS. Don't you have other things to do?

BEARGLOVE.

Long Con wrote:I just lost my post. Post coming soon.

THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN IF YOU USE BEARGLOVE!

BEARGLOVE IS EXCITEMENT, WHICH IS MISSING FROM YOUR LIVES! VOTE POSITION 4- VOTE EXCITEMENT! VOTE BEARGLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE!

Players, does registering a vote for Nutella make your role feel like a never-ending tropical sunset? Personalized love song melody? Romantic puppy surprise? Yes.

Hello players. As well as hosts, non-players, bots, and the mighty sequoias of the redwood forests. As you can see, I have returned. And it's not because I forgot my hat. Actually, my wildly exaggerated ego and its ability to create cheeky ways to post in mafia games makes creating such a garment an impossibility. As when all hatmakers see the correct fabric pattern that would fit my inflated head, they cry both tears of joy and total confusion until they pass out but are delicately caught by their own memories of my memorably unmatched posts.

No, the real reason that I'm back is I have been on a campaign to catch up on what happened after my tragic and premature first death while also infomring the people of this dual-color-scheme-optioned forum that we call The Syndicate how they or the men in their life can use Old Spice to smell as fresh as the freshest smelling places on the internet. Along with being educational, this reading/information campaign carries an entertainment value that is second to none. I know because I write them and have a strong memory of them in my brain. If you'd like a sneak peek, try staring through my striking brown eyes and looking at them as I currently remember them in my brain.

While you're helplessly lost in my seas of brown warmth and satisfaction, let me take this time to tell you that I see why people are suspicious of both Birdwithteeth and Tranq. I'd go into more detail but I am still something like 15 pages behind and need to keep reading.

You can't get past the striking brown eyes, can you? Don't worry. It's helpless.

BEARGLOVE!

Hello players. How are you? Fantastic. Does your role look like me? No. Can it smell like me? Yes. Should you vote for position 5? I don't know. Do you like Children of Serenity who are unkillable or capable of restarting days and corrupting powers? Do you want Brothers of the Inner Eye with triple votes, handing out powers, punishing people, learning targets and protecting people? Of course you do.

Swan dive!

Into the best position of your life. So players, should your vote smell like an Old Spice vote?

You tell me.

DharmaHelper wrote:I look good in blue.

You may look good in blue but you would smell even better in Old Spice body wash and deodorants. Perhaps if you used Old Spice instead of lady-scented body wash your puny avatar might reach puberty and become a man thereby becoming the hero he was born to smell like and no longer being a string-bean lady-scented sidekick.

Black Rock wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Black Rock wrote:Turns out I need several replacements and this game needs it to work properly. I have thought about it a lot and I am going to choose dead to replace. I have also chosen my dead wisely. None of them have a bone to pick and everyone will know their old roles. Thank you in advance for your understanding.

Black Rock wrote:
Gman is replacing Bass now. You can't lynch him or NK this period. He's behind. Be friendly players and help him catch up.
Hosts: What was G-Man's previous role?
Sorry, he was the Jilted Lover and unrecruited in his previous life.

Hello players. Indeed, in a past life I was a jilted lover. But now I am filled with a new kind of love especially for the ladies but bromances are okay too for the G-Man because men appreciate the smell of Old Spice on other men too. Man-friends don't let man-friends use lady-scented body wash. No, you see man-friends encourage man-friends to smell like the man they were born to smell like. And that smell is Old Spice. You're welcome.

Hello players. I'm not wearing anything underneath this towel. Gentlemen- do you feel intimidated? Ladies- do you feel aroused? Be honest. While you're being honest, please tell me where I can find Day 2 and Day 9 lynch poll data. If you're not too flushed with intimidation or excitement after doing so, please kindly direct me to position poll data for Night 9. Doing so will help me help you just like Old Spice helps you smell like a man and not lady-scented body wash. Now please excuse me while I continue to catch up. Without my towel.

If your role used Old Spice instead of lady-scented body washes it could smell like someone who abstains from voting while catching up. While wearing this

or this

but probably this

all over this

Sorsha wrote:Welcome back g man.

All your posts in this game should be written like this from now on.

Did you know Sorsha prefers Old Spice themed posts for G-Man one bajillion times more than lady-scented themed posts?

Did you know that I am riding this horse backwards?

Challenge accepted!

Hello, players, look at your role, now back to me, now back at your role, now back to me. Sadly, your role isn’t mine, but if your role stopped using ladies scented body wash and switched to Old Spice, it could smell like mine. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re on a forum with the role your role could smell like. What’s in your signature, back at me. I have it, it’s an oyster with a winner's badge for that game you're in. Look again, the winners badge is now diamonds. Anything is possible when your role smells like Old Spice and not a lady. I’m on a horse.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:It's quiet. Too quiet.

Someone tell me a good joke. Amuse me.

Here you go!

Fun fact- I just found the post where I blew up on ObscureAllure back on the boarded-up STV forums; the one I referenced in my Joker post. Turns out I was wrong- it was Gameshow Mafia and I was a civvie. That explains why I was so fired up at her. I thought it was X-Men Mafia when I was a baddie. Oh well. I was wrong.

I saved the monster post in a Notepad file. Still had it on my flashdrive. Oh the things that we keep!

Reading it, I fear I weaved back and forth across the line between righteous indignation and butt-hurt. There was a legitimate problem rotting out the STV mafia community from the inside but that post reminded me why I exiled myself.

That was almost six years ago. Time flies.

PS- Rez me!

Alrighty, so it seems that either the night being cut out prevented me from being rezzed or you guys just aren't fans of oldies hits. Perhaps something a little more current?

REZ ME

I want it now- won’t you please rez me?
Why don’t you go, PM the host
Resurrection- it will impress me
I’ll be the one, who loves you most

Hooooo (rez me)
Hooooo (rez me)
Hoooo-oooo-oooo (I want it now)
Hooooo (rez me)
Hooooo (rez me)
Hoooo-oooo-oooo (I want it now)

You know in this game I didn’t last long
For me to be dead is wickedly wrong
It’s got me like Miley Cyrus, brain off
Just waiting to return strong- Rez me!
Spreadsheets, funny posts- Rez me!
That’s the way we like the games- Rez me!
I'm slicker than an oil spill
You say you won’t, but I bet you will- Rez me!

No excuses, take no flak
End of the night, you bring me back
Put me on the right track
End of the night, you bring me back
No excuses, take no flak
End of the night, you bring me back
Put me on the right track
End of the night, you bring me back

I want it now- won’t you please rez me?
Why don’t you go, PM the host
Resurrection - it will impress me
I’ll be the one, who loves you most

I want it now (I want it now)
Won’t you please rez me?
Why don’t you go (Why don’t you go)
PM the host (PM the host)
Resurrection
It will impress me
I’ll be the one
Who loves you most (Who loves you most)

Oooooh (rez me)
Woooah (rez me)
Oooooh-oooh-oooh (I want it now)
Oooooh (rez me)
Woooah (rez me)
Oooooh-oooh-oooh (I want it now)

Look up in the sky, it's a bird, it's a plane
Nah, it's just me, ain't a damn thing changed
Lurk in the thread, play mind games
Blessed to say, spammin’ ain't no thing
Thread jumping like Lebron, now, voting
Rez me for another round, homie
Do us all a big favor, tonight you bring G-man back

No excuses, take no flak
End of the night, you bring me back
Put me on the right track
End of the night, you bring me back
No excuses, take no flak
End of the night, you bring me back
(Ooooh)
Put me on the right track
End of the night, you bring me back

I want it now- won’t you please rez me?
Why don’t you go, PM the host
Resurrection - it will impress me
I’ll be the one, who loves you most

I want it now (I want it now)
Won’t you please rez me?
Why don’t you go
PM the host (PM the host)
Resurrection (Resurrection)
It will impress me
I'll be the one (I'll be the one)
Who loves you most (Who loves you most)

Wooooah (rez me)
wooooah (rez me) (Hey!)
ooooh-oooh-oooh (I want it now) (G-Man)
ooooh (rez me) (Oh!)
wooooah (rez me)
ooooh-oooh-oooh (I want it now)

Wooooah (Rez me!)
wooooah (C'mon!)
ooooh-oooh-oooh (I want it now)
wooooah (Rez me!)
wooooah (PM the host!)
ooooh-oooh-oooh (rez me)

Roxy wrote:The thread feels toxic.

If it wasn't before, it is now!

RESURRECT ME (NOW THAT I AM DEAD)

It broke my heart
To die so early
I was only just getting warmed up
And now I'm back, to let you know
I would like a second chance

Resurrect me!
(I’m a funny guy)
Resurrect me!
(Promise to try)
Now, resurrect me!
(Will you rez me?)
Now that I am dead
(Dead)

Rez me now!
Oh, (rez, rez)
Oh, rez me now, baby
(Rez, rez)
I don’t want to hear “maybe”
(Rez, rez)
Give me back my precious soul now
(Rez)

I can build a spreadsheet
(I can build a spreadsheet)
And I can write some posts
(I can write some posts)
Now tell me, baby
(Tell me, baby)
That you’ve PM’ed the hosts
(That you’ve PM’ed the hosts)
Rez me
(Rez me)
Rez me

Resurrect me!
(Will you rez me?)
Now, resurrect me!
(Will you rez me?)
Now, resurrect me!
(Will you rez me?)
Now that I am dead
(Dead)

Rez me now!
Hey! (rez, rez)
Oh, rez me please, rez me
(Rez, rez)
Please don’t let me down now
(Rez, rez)
Oh, give me back my soul now
(Rez)

(Rez, rez)
Oh, rez me, rez me, baby
(Rez, rez)
Oh, it’s driving me crazy
(Rez, rez)
Oh, don't get lazy
(Rez)

I can build a spreadsheet
(I can build a spreadsheet)
And I can write some posts
(I can write some posts)
Well now tell me, baby
(Tell me, baby)
That you’ve PM’ed the hosts
(That you’ve PM’ed the hosts)
Rez me
(Rez me)
Rez me

Resurrect me!
(Will you rez me?)
Now, resurrect me!
(Will you rez me?)
Now, resurrect me!
(Will you rez me?)
(Now, now, now)

Hey! (Rez, rez)
Oh, I want back in, baby
(Rez, rez)
And it’s driving me crazy
(Rez, rez)
Now don't you get lazy
(Rez)

(Rez, rez)
Oh, hey hey, baby
(Rez, rez)
Death is driving me crazy
(Rez, rez)
Don't you get lazy
(Rez)

birdwithteeth11 wrote:So if one happens to pop up sometime, I think it will generate some good discussions.

Scotty wrote:ALSO A REMINDER TO EVERYONE!!!

Uzbekistan can lock the thread today, which I'm assuming means for the entirety of the day phase, so if you have something you want to say, it may be a good idea to get it out sooner rather than later.

Just goes to show you that it's the doubly landlocked ones you have to watch out for.

Well poop on a stick!

MovingPictures07 wrote:
G-Man wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:S~V~S, to elaborate, I suppose I just feel as though you're putting Golden up to an expectation that is unreasonable, considering he has been quite open about playing a neutral game, and that Epi was a serious threat to Golden's immediate livelihood. I think it's key to note how emotionally-charged Golden's play has been this game, due to being under constant defense for his well being, and from Epi for a while at that.
I feel his behavior in this game is contrary to his non-baddie meta as I know it.

Do you better understand it put like that?
I feel like Golden is playing similar to how he started out in HSK actually, sparring with Epignosis and all. He just took it... a little further this time. I've only seen Golden bad in one game, when he subbed back into Economics, and he played nothing like he is here. He was calm and collected and attracted no attention.
QFT

I still have nightmares of that game, between G-Man masquerading as The Joker and Golden the super secret most bad of all the baddies, lurking in the shadows.
What was wrong with my Joker posts? I loved making those.
Lol, I loved them, I was just making a joke, since The Joker appearing in nightmares saying some of the stuff you posted in that game in his voice would be kinda creepy. :P

Spoiler: show

Long Con wrote:First player to post a picture of a Hostile Hoagie will gain esteem.

I'm voting for option 3 because it is the least scary option. I'll catch up over lunch.

Does anyone have a screenshot of the votes for Day 2? I was busy and didn't have time to fill them in as they happened and I missed any votes cast in the last hour of the poll.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:S~V~S, to elaborate, I suppose I just feel as though you're putting Golden up to an expectation that is unreasonable, considering he has been quite open about playing a neutral game, and that Epi was a serious threat to Golden's immediate livelihood. I think it's key to note how emotionally-charged Golden's play has been this game, due to being under constant defense for his well being, and from Epi for a while at that.
I feel his behavior in this game is contrary to his non-baddie meta as I know it.

Do you better understand it put like that?
I feel like Golden is playing similar to how he started out in HSK actually, sparring with Epignosis and all. He just took it... a little further this time. I've only seen Golden bad in one game, when he subbed back into Economics, and he played nothing like he is here. He was calm and collected and attracted no attention.
QFT

I still have nightmares of that game, between G-Man masquerading as The Joker and Golden the super secret most bad of all the baddies, lurking in the shadows.

What was wrong with my Joker posts? I loved making those.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
nutella wrote:The vote spread/close tallies are a little concerning considering how many roles have vote manip powers in this position... we really have no way of knowing the correct tally and with a few candidates being so close, any one of them could end up being lynched.
I agree, and I highly implore anyone casting off votes at this point to consider placing them on Bass.

Okay but know that my vote switch has very little to do with any suspicion of Bass and I am in no way "flicking the booger" on you either. I'll vote to spread the vote out a little for science and to help keep Golden around for at least one more day.

VOTE CHANGED TO BASS

Didn't think I'd be back but I made it back. I see this was said about me:

S~V~S wrote:
Ricochet wrote:G-Man's vote for TH seems a bit weak sauce for me, especially given that it's relatively fixed for the day, since he might have return. I get the "he's on my no-read list from which I intended to vote someone" more than the "let's test out if Speaker is genuine or ignorable". I've mentioned that it's highly unlikely the Speaker got to check and inform on his check in the same first Night of the game. When do we really test out what a messenger suspects? If he's spot on about TH being, let's say, a recruited baddie (aka the purest form of baddie at this point), he passes the test and receive eternal cred, and if he's wrong about TH being anything, we discret him, after just one night, for the rest of the game? This is even more interesting coming from G-Man who was Messenger in his last game.

All of the votes so far for him have pretty weak reasonings. Bubbles said nothing whatosever on the matter. MM also acts like the Speaker was sent from Heavens. Also @linki: aapje just came in fact with way better reads for suspecting TH, nevertheless all those were not reasons any of TH's voters brought up so far for voting him.
This pretty much sums up how I feel about the TH votes. I find that remark he made to be brow raising, but not enough to merit a vote, gossip or not. TH is a strong player, and I am not ready to experiment on him just yet. I have not seen anything from my day one vote, Bullz, to alarm me so i doubt I will vote for him again today, although i plan to keep an eye on him. He plays a pretty seamless recruited game in my experience.

I think I will reread some of these peoples posts, but I am still really highly disturbed by Golden, tbh. It is like he's a pod person Golden, lol.

Linki @BWT, I did not vote for you, or particularly think you were bad Day One; why do you think I did?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
G-Man wrote:I won't be back before the poll closes, so here goes:

VOTES TURNIP HEAD

He's on my list of players who I don't have a read on and lynching him could be a test of whether or not to ignore future messages from the Speaker of Serenity.
This is a valid example of someone flicking the booger of responsibility onto the Speaker of Serenity. G-Man, the TH vote is yours -- either own it or drop it. Moreover, this logic disregards the very real possibility that the Speaker is merely hunching on Turnip and doesn't actually know anything. If the call for his lynch turns out ill-advised, that would say nothing about the Speaker other than "he/she called for the lynch of the wrong person".

Unless you think that player might have privileged information and is allowed by the hosts to exploit it in such an obvious manner as this. I don't think that.

So, yeah. I cast a mostly meaningless and lazy vote. I don't give much credence to any gossip role ever until they turn out to be consistently right. Gossip roles should be taken with a grain of salt. Really, I voted for Turnip Head because a) he was on my list of people for whom I have no feel yet and b) it created a three-way tie. I had to vote and clean up for the day at the office so I could make it to a doctor's appointment after work. Playing from 30,000 feet like I presently am, I'm keeping up with the thread but really only noting the big things. Kudos to those of you who can hit the micro-analysis but I have to play the macro-game this time around. That leaves me to be intentionally blendy by posting just enough to show I care but still mostly resigning myself to being a spectator.

If you prefer, I'd happily move my vote to someone else, so long as that someone else is not Golden the Coward

because his ballsy play on getting Epi killed gets him a free pass from me this day. There are probably a few other people I don't want to see lynched and most of them aren't even in the cross-hairs here.

I won't be back before the poll closes, so here goes:

VOTES TURNIP HEAD

He's on my list of players who I don't have a read on and lynching him could be a test of whether or not to ignore future messages from the Speaker of Serenity.

Roxy wrote:
G-Man wrote:
Golden wrote:Can someone please recruit G-Man? He deserves it.
Who says I haven't been recruited yet? I posted that in OT green on purpose. That was proposed as a legitimate theme song, not a personal plea for recruitment.

Roxy wrote:Also llama what happened to your Bubbles suspicion? Did it just magically disappear?

Same goes to all the Teeth voters - did your suspicion (strong enough to place a vote on him yesterday) just disappear over the night phase?
Maybe they think they don't have to speak to that issue since the day was ended before most of those votes were even cast?

Thoughts:

I'm not interested in either Bass or MP right now. Maybe I'm still a little hung up on getting a read on people. I still have no read on 13 different players. I'll probably vote for one of them.

The game quieted down substantially over the weekend. While I liked less content sitting there when catching up, it does hamper progress on the game. It still feels like a lot of people just aren't participating.

Not sure what to make of Dr. Wilgy. It's cute and all but it could also be a distraction. He's one of my 13.

Yay for 3-J sticking around.
Right - so since the day ended early (even though they had no idea it was happening at the time of their votes) they hold no responsilbility for them?

Ofc I disagree with your assessment.

Heh. Maybe I should have put that in sarcastic orange for effect? They obviously have to answer for their votes even if they don't count. I was providing a philosophical line of BS that might be attempted. I was not suggesting they are exempt from speaking their votes. Even though their votes didn't count, they are still on record.

reywaS wrote:
G-Man wrote:
reywaS wrote:Can we be called the G-13?
What makes you so sure you're sill on my list? You could be one of the three that I got a read on since Day 1.
Am I?

Signs point to yes

Bullzeye wrote:
G-Man wrote:
Golden wrote:Can someone please recruit G-Man? He deserves it.
Who says I haven't been recruited yet? I posted that in OT green on purpose. That was proposed as a legitimate theme song, not a personal plea for recruitment.

Roxy wrote:Also llama what happened to your Bubbles suspicion? Did it just magically disappear?

Same goes to all the Teeth voters - did your suspicion (strong enough to place a vote on him yesterday) just disappear over the night phase?
Maybe they think they don't have to speak to that issue since the day was ended before most of those votes were even cast?

Thoughts:

I'm not interested in either Bass or MP right now. Maybe I'm still a little hung up on getting a read on people. I still have no read on 13 different players. I'll probably vote for one of them.

The game quieted down substantially over the weekend. While I liked less content sitting there when catching up, it does hamper progress on the game. It still feels like a lot of people just aren't participating.

Not sure what to make of Dr. Wilgy. It's cute and all but it could also be a distraction. He's one of my 13.

Yay for 3-J sticking around.
Was about to say 13 what and then make silly jokes but proper reading prevailed and I understand now. Who are your other 12?

As for quietening down on the weekend, I can't explain why everyone did but for me it was because I was writing 10,000 words in the hopes that my university will enjoy reading them enough to give me a Masters.

Actually, it looks like I need to lerntukaunt because my list is only 11 people total. I failed to mark Typhoony as dead on my player feel list. Spreadsheet neglect!

Bea
Boomslang
Canuck
Devin
Dom
Dr. Wilgy
Nutella
reywaS
Sorsha*
TinyBubbles
TurnipHead

*she was exempted from my list of 16 from Day 1 because she was traveling but I have no read on her still, so technically, there are only 10 holdovers and 1 new name in Sorsha.

reywaS wrote:Can we be called the G-13?

What makes you so sure you're sill on my list? You could be one of the three that I got a read on since Day 1.

Golden wrote:Can someone please recruit G-Man? He deserves it.

Who says I haven't been recruited yet? I posted that in OT green on purpose. That was proposed as a legitimate theme song, not a personal plea for recruitment.

Roxy wrote:Also llama what happened to your Bubbles suspicion? Did it just magically disappear?

Same goes to all the Teeth voters - did your suspicion (strong enough to place a vote on him yesterday) just disappear over the night phase?

Maybe they think they don't have to speak to that issue since the day was ended before most of those votes were even cast?

Thoughts:

I'm not interested in either Bass or MP right now. Maybe I'm still a little hung up on getting a read on people. I still have no read on 13 different players. I'll probably vote for one of them.

The game quieted down substantially over the weekend. While I liked less content sitting there when catching up, it does hamper progress on the game. It still feels like a lot of people just aren't participating.

Not sure what to make of Dr. Wilgy. It's cute and all but it could also be a distraction. He's one of my 13.

Yay for 3-J sticking around.

You know what these recruitment games need? A theme song! I've been on a punk rock kick lately (real punk rock, none of this newfangled pop-punk nonsense) and when I heard this song driving to the grocery store, lyrics just started flowing. Hope you like it!

"I Wanna Be Recruited"

Pretty-pretty-pretty please someone pick me
I wanna be recruited
Joinin' a team sounds really good to me
I wanna be recruited

I might be very awesome, could be very skilled
Hurry hurry hurry before my role is killed
Just put me on your roster, you know I will be thrilled
Let's go oh oh oh oh

Pretty-pretty-pretty please someone pick me
I wanna be recruited
Joinin' a team sounds really good to me
I wanna be recruited

I promise to be loyal, could be very skilled
Hurry hurry hurry before my role is killed
Just put me on your roster, you know I will be thrilled
Let's go oh oh oh oh

Pretty-pretty-pretty please someone pick me
I wanna be recruited
Joinin' a team sounds really good to me
I wanna be recruited

I promise to be loyal, promise I won't flake
Hurry hurry hurry pick me for goodness sake
I really want to join you, my offer isn't fake
Let's go oh oh oh oh

Pretty-pretty-pretty please someone pick me
I wanna be recruited
Joinin' a team sounds really good to me
I wanna be recruited

I promise to be loyal, promise I won't flake
Hurry hurry hurry pick me for goodness sake
I really want to join you, my offer isn't fake
Let's go oh oh oh oh

Please please puh-please puh-please please puh-please- I wanna be recruited
Please please puh-please puh-please please puh-please- I wanna be recruited
Please please puh-please puh-please please puh-please- I wanna be recruited
Please please puh-please puh-please please puh-please- I wanna be recruited

MovingPictures07 wrote:Seems people want me dead.

I want Position 4 because it benefits my role. Sorry it doesn't benefit a lot of your roles.

G-Man, I get it. You don't like my playstyle. I don't bully people on purpose, but think what you want. I feel bad enough as it is, I don't need to come in here and see people bashing my posts.

Go ahead and vote me off if you wish, all of you, since there's clearly momentum forming that way and I doubt it'll go away any time soon. I don't have the desire to defend myself for days on end again. Not sure what I can say at this point that I haven't already anyway.

I don't want you dead.

That's what I figured but it's nice to have it in words.

Bashing each others posts is a big part of the game, so...

Why are you so sensitive to others bashing yours when you are unashamed to rip into the posts of others?

nutella wrote:Ah yes, Position 4 is the one with Poison. I thought we all agreed to delay that one as long as we can, since poison is cumulative. Why does MP want it to start so early?

Maybe he's a closet Poison fan?

True story- Bret Michaels went to the same high school as my dad. My 2nd grade teacher also had him when he was in elementary school and she told us that he peed his pants on group picture day.

@SVS- Calling it rude implies there are unwritten rules to the game. It's not so much rude as it is nasty and cruel. As a battle-hardened veteran of the game, I doubt he thinks it's rude. It probably didn't even register with him.

@Rico- thanks. Good to know.

My general thoughts:

It's a shame to lose Typh so soon. I hope he comes back for more games (especially when Secret Mafia 3 rolls around). I'm surprised how many people posted before anyone mentioned that Typhoony was one of the Sorcerer roles. Makes me wonder if some people aren't doing their homework after a night post. Seeing as Typh was of the Sorcerer clan, I hope he was the Windscout (death to all seemer powers!). It would be cool if he were none other than Azura or the Magnetarch as well.

Has anyone considered if all the shock and disbelief at Typh's early exit was the point in killing him? I mean, think like a baddie folks! I thought MP's list of people who wouldn't kill Typh Night 1 was garbage and should be ignored. He even came back later and admitted that that list uses flimsy logic. Well then why even post such a list in the first place? Had anyone but MP made such a list and gotten called out on it, MP probably would have been all Dog-Pee Factor 3 on it. He is, indeed, a master back-tracker.

And I see MP broke out the old bully pulpit too. Stay classy, Sockman!

I must say that I thought Llama's shade-lob at MP was justified. Then the eruption that ensued made MP v. Llama the new Epi v. Golden, only much more one-sided and ordeal, which quickly made me...

Hey MP- what appeals to you about Position 4? You've voted for it twice now. A few of us are in agreement that it looks the scariest for the civvie cause.

I pondered following the Speaker of Serenity's request to vote for TH but then I remembered that we have no reason to trust the Speaker of Serenity.

JJJ subbing out perhaps?

Won't miss your post volume if you do, but I will miss your personality.

I hate, hate, HATE changeable votes!

I honestly give Golden the Coward

some brownie points for his ploy against Epi. That's badass yo. I'm still not sure one way or the other on you though.

Playing from behind again. I see we have votes already. Going back to read what I've missed. TTFN.

S~V~S wrote:I think 4 is the scariest.

I agree but the Windscout's Position 5 / Team Seemer ability is really going to suck for us they get recruited to a baddie team. It's going to be a bother regardless. I get the feeling our spreadsheets are going to be so wrong when the hosts reveal the player/role list at endgame.

Boy, there's some frightful stuff in both 3 and 5. I initially said Position 2 looked very positive for civvies but that's only from the view of civvies landing those powers. This game is like the opposite of the Star Trek movies- here the odd-numbered choices are the way to go (though I seriously enjoyed ST3: The Search for Spock and ST5 could make for a great film if there wasn't so much TV-grade suck in it). Between Position 3 and 5, coin flip says 5.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
G-Man wrote:oh and those assessments were before those two other powers were added. There's a wrinkle to consider. Back in a few.
Here's a new wrinkle for you. There were four new roles added.

Wrinkle unwrinkled: I made my list after the first two were added. So :P

oh and those assessments were before those two other powers were added. There's a wrinkle to consider. Back in a few.

Here's what Rico had to say, nicely quantified:

Ricochet wrote:OK, here's my silly breakdown of the positions

Abilities with positive effects on a player or the field
Abilities that only serve the carrier's interest or gain
Abilities with negative effects on a player or the field
Abilities with ambivalent effects, that will probably depend on the alignment of the carrier

I am aware this is far from perfect, because recruitement might ultimately influence itself the positive or negative charge of most abilities. A protection can be generally positive, but switch to serving the player's or team's interest (if, for instance, the player gets recruited in a baddie camp). Some abilities like the kills or the ones that sound nasty have been unconditionally slotted into negative, despite their own nuances depending on alignment (like civ kills). The "ambivalent" section is for abilities I couldn't grasp or couldn't project into any of the three main slots (Stuff like "Picks Player". Ok, what am I supposed to believe will happen to the picked player or how can I tell if the pick is for goood or bad?)

So, to the best of my understanding and probably with a lot of mistakes in counting/assessing them:

Position 1 10 10 10 3

Position 2 7 12 10 3

Position 3 5 11 14 3 (+1 Unknown)

Position 4 4 14 11 3 (+1 Unknown)

Position 5 7 13 10 3
(wow, those are some weak ass color contrasts, but I'm not redoing the entire scheme code)

So overall positions 3 and 4 seems the most unpleasant, with 3 potentially creating the most amount of nasty. But of course, I haven't nuanced this breakdown at all, as in weighing which abilities are more pos/neg than others; so for instance, this doesn't really make the other positions look any better, considering they have stuff like Cremation, Mind Control, Hunger, Parasite, Immolation etc.

My conclusion is that, indeed, there is no safe choosing in this matter and we'll have to go through most of these positions anyway. It's clear that the Hosts have made this pretty balanced and it's more like a crazy mix, as if we jump from one entire game setup to another each Day (wait, this isn't Inception... ), each with its virtues and nightmares, so we'll just have to navigate and suffer through them. However, my impulse right now is not to get rid of the worst-looking, because I think the amount of nasty effects and chaos would be different on D1 (with most of us unrecruited yet/unaligned) rather than later, when we have a better chance to look for patterns and such.

But this is overanalyzing, so tl;dr version is: right I feel like going for 1 or 2, out of which I think I prefer 1, even though it has cremation and mind control, because I'm not in the mood for Hunger and shit like that from Day freaking 1 already.

Here's what I had to say, with a vague and barely explained methodology:

G-Man wrote:Alright, so I went through each role's positions and did my best to determine which position for each role was the most beneficial to the civvies. Here's what I came up with:

Position 1 = 7
Position 2 = 15
Position 3 = 9
Position 4 = 6
Position 5 = 10

Even though there's some scary stuff in Position 2, it looks to me like that bad stuff is countered by some strong potential civvie stuff. The numbers don't equal the number of roles because some roles are equally bad or good across all their positions.

Thoughts?

I guess mine also comes from the standpoint of which roles cause the least harm to civvies. I'll have to go back and see if my initial calculations still stand.

Position 1	10	10	10	3
Position 2	7	12	10	3
Position 3	5	11	14	3 (+1 Unknown)
Position 4	4	14	11	3 (+1 Unknown)
Position 5	7	13	10	3

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