The Syndicate

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:38 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:59 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:47 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:39 pm @DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

i’m sleep deprived as shit so i’ll ask a simple question and state one fact and ask you to vote syn

1) Which ML is significantly worse, mine or syn’s?

2) two of your townreads tr me, rondo sr’s and falcon doesn’t have a read

3) vote syn uwu

let’s assume you miss on me, 2 ML’s left and just dies d3 regardless of alignment then we’re probably at 1 ml until a loss. this is logic i’m considering because most of the thread thinks it’s v/v and i might actually buy that logic to some degree

but i feel if syn is a hit we just win

1.) Syn would be the significantly worse ML I think. Syn draws tension with Rondo and Tutuu with you out of the equation. You draw tension with Rondo, Neon, Seanzie, and Tutuu with syn out of the equation.

2.) true

3.) okie dokei [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

Ew!

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:34 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:07 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

You care explaining this suspicion of me? Did I miss it?

Just a gut feeling

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:49 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:34 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:07 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:17 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm

So you're woofin', right?

Provide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughts

"So you're woofin', right?"

Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.

Wilgy, this feels like a very odd response from you. You know how Seanzie works. You know he just replies like this sometimes.

You seeming to be exasperated by this feels off.

Seanzie is more than capable of responding with actual world views based upon other players reads. It was very much the lack of doing so that seems off.

Further he says the thread is boring and dips rather than actually trying to go into the mesh of it. I don't see how that's town sided.

I'm always a bit off. Doesn't mean I ain't spot on though.

That's like 3 replies in the same thread that doesn't evolve the thought at all. There's no solving in this.

Don't need to solve when I've got a wolf in the bag.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:07 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:17 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 pm

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.

TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha

Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon

Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both

I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.

If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.

If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep

If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You

Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?

So you're woofin', right?

Provide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughts

"So you're woofin', right?"

Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.

Wilgy, this feels like a very odd response from you. You know how Seanzie works. You know he just replies like this sometimes.

You seeming to be exasperated by this feels off.

Seanzie is more than capable of responding with actual world views based upon other players reads. It was very much the lack of doing so that seems off.

Further he says the thread is boring and dips rather than actually trying to go into the mesh of it. I don't see how that's town sided.

I'm always a bit off. Doesn't mean I ain't spot on though.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:07 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:52 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:59 pm Damn I trust players on the Bereft wagon more than pyxxy

Wilgy when you said this, do you happen to remember who you saw on the pyxxy wagon? There were either 2 or 3 people besides yourself depending on when you refreshed the page.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:22 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:20 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:18 pm wilgy y u h8 me

I could never hate you Pyxxy. You are very fun to play with.

However I do think you are wolfing this game.

good sir I haven't randed scum yet on this site and I don't plan to start now

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:20 pm @DrWilgy if I flip town, do you plan to go after Neon D3? Do you think one of the top D1 wagons must be scum?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:18 pm wilgy y u h8 me

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:54 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:35 am
Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

kk, what's our gamestate if so and who am I wrong about being town?

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.

TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha

Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon

Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both

I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.

If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.

If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep

If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You

Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?

So you're woofin', right?

Provide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughts

"So you're woofin', right?"

Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.

Wilgy, this feels like a very odd response from you. You know how Seanzie works. You know he just replies like this sometimes.

You seeming to be exasperated by this feels off.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:12 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:31 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:09 pm Seanzie needs a second assessment as the wagon being on Bereft instead of Lucy I think was mostly their doing.

Yeah I wasn't sure about Seanzie on the wagon, and ofc pyxxy voted that wagon too but that was also a LATE vote

I think Pyxxy is probably clear from EoD wagonomics. The Pyxxy flash wagon was likely a save attempt to move away from Neon.

thoughts on Wilgy's movement if you hold this world view?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:31 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:09 pm Seanzie needs a second assessment as the wagon being on Bereft instead of Lucy I think was mostly their doing.

Yeah I wasn't sure about Seanzie on the wagon, and ofc pyxxy voted that wagon too but that was also a LATE vote

I think Pyxxy is probably clear from EoD wagonomics. The Pyxxy flash wagon was likely a save attempt to move away from Neon.

I'm talking about my exchange here with Wilgy, where he doesn't bring up that Neon was also tied until I bring it up.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:30 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:20 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:17 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:13 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:08 pm current vote count:

Spoiler: show

Bereft, 2
Voters: Seanzie, DrWilgy

Cape90, 0
Voters: None

DrWilgy, 1
Voters: Porscha

falcon45ca, 0
Voters: None

Le petit poussin, 4
Voters: pyxxy, tutuu, Cape90, Bereft

lucy, 2
Voters: Syn, RondoDimBuckle

Neon, 1
Voters: falcon45ca

No Yeet/Sleep, 0
Voters: None

Porscha, 0
Voters: None

pyxxy, 1
Voters: Neon

RondoDimBuckle, 0
Voters: None

Seanzie, 0
Voters: None

Sheep, 0
Voters: None

Syn, 1
Voters: lucy

tutuu, 1
Voters: Le petit poussin

Unvote/Not Voting, 1
Voters: Sheep

didn't realize there were 3 on le petit already, I'm making that a serious wagon, huh

Extract:

"Le petit poussin, 4
Voters: pyxxy, tutuu, Cape90, Bereft"

everyone else gone by -40min from EOD

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:28 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:19 pm 40 minutes.PNG

all this talk about voting le petit and somehow ten minutes ago I was the only person on le petit?

that feels off

and then le petit _is the NK_ and flips town

this feels odd and/or I'm self-centered

also don't know what to make of Wilgy essentially saving me

It was effectively panic.

I still think you were a fine yeet option, but LPP being on that wagon along with Rondo and Cape being on Bereft made me swap last second.

Was Neon also having 4 votes a part of your panic calculations?

Si. Neon wouldn't have been a good yeet yesterday. There's still time yet for them to town spew.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:24 pm i’ve stayed up the last like 30h ugh

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:20 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:18 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:15 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 pm

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.

TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha

Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon

Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both

I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.

If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.

If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep

If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You

Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?

So you're woofin', right?

Provide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughts

"So you're woofin', right?"

Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.

I've found that I lose to wolf!Wilgy often because I find town!Wilgy is often obscure and hard to read, and then Wolf!Wilgy gives me clear thoughts, which I accidentally townread because it feels refreshing to understand your stances better than I usually do.

This is wolf!Wilgy.

how the unholy hell is the spaghetti logic above clear thoughts? I don't even understand them.

I have them but can't parse them. This is what normally happens, but I find a string to at least follow half the time. This time I see the threads and can't pick one out of the group.

Soz about your rand, dude.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:15 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:13 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:59 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:47 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:39 pm @DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

i’m sleep deprived as shit so i’ll ask a simple question and state one fact and ask you to vote syn

1) Which ML is significantly worse, mine or syn’s?

2) two of your townreads tr me, rondo sr’s and falcon doesn’t have a read

3) vote syn uwu

let’s assume you miss on me, 2 ML’s left and just dies d3 regardless of alignment then we’re probably at 1 ml until a loss. this is logic i’m considering because most of the thread thinks it’s v/v and i might actually buy that logic to some degree

but i feel if syn is a hit we just win

1.) Syn would be the significantly worse ML I think. Syn draws tension with Rondo and Tutuu with you out of the equation. You draw tension with Rondo, Neon, Seanzie, and Tutuu with syn out of the equation.

2.) true

3.) okie dokei [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

lmao i didn’t expect to convince you, anything else i would say i cannot accurately articulate at the moment

thank u for ur thoughts overall though

but why do u suspect sheep/pyxxy

I think Sheep's reactions to Rondo's case on You/Me/Tutuu was very VERY mid. Both in review and disapproval of it.

Felt like a wolf that didn't like it but didn't know what to do about it.

sheep is aopser

schweppes/bereft is too

in a recent game town schweppes found town sheep’s within 8 votes and called him town here

does him being town change any of your reads?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:15 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:54 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:35 am
Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

kk, what's our gamestate if so and who am I wrong about being town?

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.

TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha

Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon

Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both

I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.

If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.

If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep

If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You

Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?

So you're woofin', right?

Provide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughts

"So you're woofin', right?"

Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.

I've found that I lose to wolf!Wilgy often because I find town!Wilgy is often obscure and hard to read, and then Wolf!Wilgy gives me clear thoughts, which I accidentally townread because it feels refreshing to understand your stances better than I usually do.

This is wolf!Wilgy.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:17 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:25 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:00 pm @lucy @DrWilgy @Sheep @Neon @Bereft @Cape90 @Le petit poussin @pyxxy @Syn @RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie @falcon45ca @Porscha

Could you try making reads on these 5 players?

lucy
wilgy
cape
neon
tutuu

lucy: I played against scum lucy in Holes mafia, lucy has no wim in that game tho, and I didn't get the impression that scum lucy is normally without wim. however, I'm liking these lucy vibes. tr

wilgy: I cannot read wilgy (atm?) and would rather abstain from commenting on wilgy. tbh I'm gonna unvote wilgy so that's clear since my wilgy vote was a joke anyway

cape: I think I've watched cape get D1'd as town twice now, which would be really funny if it weren't so sad. seems like the same cape that got pushed over those times. tr

neon: I hate the "I'm booooooooooooored" posts. I also hate when Sabi makes them. equally opportunity hating from me. but they're NAI _atm_ for Neon imo. otoh scum neon was with scum lucy in Holes mafia and I got to see that too...so, neon neutral, leaning town

tutuu: self-indulgent to include yourself in this question. neutral, but hard read you're the rolestopper in case I'm right and can claim town credit later

So effectively town, null, town, null slight town and null?

I'm not bashing it, but it is somewhat jarring to have a read list like this out of you so early Pyxxy.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:19 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:44 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:33 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:13 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:09 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:05 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:52 am i was going to vote with my queen lucy but i really like pyxxy he's really fun and he likes me a lot too it would break my heart to vote him for now so ill vote with cape

(i just clicked on the poll to vote for whoever he's voting and i literally forgot who it is as im writing this but it doesnt matter)

hm? when have I made an impression on you?

are u saying that u perceived my post as me townreading u?

no?

"but i really like pyxxy he's really fun and he likes me a lot too"

why do you really like me? what makes me the twinkle in your eye? I made like 5 posts or smth at that point, like am I forgetting secretplayerlist interactions or smth?

Also if we think that what I did was wolfy, I might extend an olive branch to these series of posts that seem to ramble on about tutuu calling pyxxy enjoyable to play with when pyxxy acts like tutuu is solely talking just about this game and tries to make a read off tutuu off this interaction when tutuu was talking in general.

It's not scummy but im just saying

....what??

I'm doing the exact opposite, I'm asking about tutuu's opinion of me since it seems to be founded on things outside this game!!!!!!

cape town wtf

Why did this elicit a tr?

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:59 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:47 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:39 pm @DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

i’m sleep deprived as shit so i’ll ask a simple question and state one fact and ask you to vote syn

1) Which ML is significantly worse, mine or syn’s?

2) two of your townreads tr me, rondo sr’s and falcon doesn’t have a read

3) vote syn uwu

let’s assume you miss on me, 2 ML’s left and just dies d3 regardless of alignment then we’re probably at 1 ml until a loss. this is logic i’m considering because most of the thread thinks it’s v/v and i might actually buy that logic to some degree

but i feel if syn is a hit we just win

1.) Syn would be the significantly worse ML I think. Syn draws tension with Rondo and Tutuu with you out of the equation. You draw tension with Rondo, Neon, Seanzie, and Tutuu with syn out of the equation.

2.) true

3.) okie dokei [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

lmao i didn’t expect to convince you, anything else i would say i cannot accurately articulate at the moment

thank u for ur thoughts overall though

but why do u suspect sheep/pyxxy

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:54 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:35 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:40 pm What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep through most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Syn and Lucy are likely dif check still.

This is mostly due to alot of unresolved tension around Lucy's slot.

I'd sort between those two and go from there.

Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

kk, what's our gamestate if so and who am I wrong about being town?

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.

TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha

Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon

Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both

I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.

If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.

If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep

If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You

Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?

So you're woofin', right?

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:59 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:47 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:39 pm @DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

i’m sleep deprived as shit so i’ll ask a simple question and state one fact and ask you to vote syn

1) Which ML is significantly worse, mine or syn’s?

2) two of your townreads tr me, rondo sr’s and falcon doesn’t have a read

3) vote syn uwu

let’s assume you miss on me, 2 ML’s left and just dies d3 regardless of alignment then we’re probably at 1 ml until a loss. this is logic i’m considering because most of the thread thinks it’s v/v and i might actually buy that logic to some degree

but i feel if syn is a hit we just win

Chat GPT, please show me the potential teams of three people hiding within this list of players along with likely hoods:
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha
Tutuu
Neon
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn
Lucy

Lucy is never on a team with Syn or Neon. Tutuu is never on a team with Syn or Seanzie. Neon is never on a team with Pyxxy or Sheep.

If one of the players on the hidden team is Neon, Syn has a greater chance of being on that team.

If one of the players on the hidden team is Lucy, Tutuu Seanzie and Sheep have a greater chance of being on that team.

If one of the players on the hidden team is Pyxxy, Sheep Lucy and Seanzie have a greater chance of being on that team.

Based on the given constraints and likelihoods, here are some potential teams of three players that could be hidden within the list:

Falcon, Cape, Rondo
Porscha, Tutuu, Seanzie
Lucy, Sheep, Seanzie
Pyxxy, Sheep, Lucy or Seanzie (depending on whether Pyxxy is included or not)
Neon, Syn, Sheep or Seanzie (depending on whether Neon is included or not)
It's important to note that these are just potential teams and there could be other combinations that meet the given constraints as well.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:39 pm @DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:54 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:35 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:40 pm What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep through most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Syn and Lucy are likely dif check still.

This is mostly due to alot of unresolved tension around Lucy's slot.

I'd sort between those two and go from there.

Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

kk, what's our gamestate if so and who am I wrong about being town?

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:35 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:40 pm What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep through most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Syn and Lucy are likely dif check still.

This is mostly due to alot of unresolved tension around Lucy's slot.

I'd sort between those two and go from there.

Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:59 am @DrWilgy

if MY girl and Spright Carrot are both drowning and I can only save one you can catch me at my girl’s funeral detaching 1 from gigantic special summoning Blue TO ADD CARROT TO MY HAND AND THEN SPECIAL SUMMONING CARROT TO THE FIELD

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:25 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:12 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:09 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:04 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:09 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:06 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:34 pm @DrWilgy what are your reads

They has not changed much

Cape T
Rondo T
Falcon T
Porscha T
Tutuu Tfn
Neon Tfn

Pyxxy is off and it feels Wolfy.

We need to solve in you/Syn and we should have yesterday.

We go from there.

If we are doing proper mafia play we kill a counterwagon and neons counterwagon gives us the most info. Pyxxy I personally think is town and Neon has been suspicious so if you want to avoid my fpos on lucy Neon is my only other option

I still don't think Neon is correct, but yeah [VOTE: Lucy] aubergine would be a good place to start today.

why? You didnt listen to me today and voted anyone but lucy, why lucy today?

Today? Today just started?

If you are referring to yesterday, I even argued for the Lucy wagon and voted alongside you. Seanzie was like 'nah dood, Bereft' and that's why we got stuck with as it felt better than neon going over.

I have the votes in my ISO, I can go back and look at them. From what I remember you were voting there while it didnt matter and when it picked up you moved somewhere else and it died down, at no point was lucy in any actual serious danger and you moving away killed the wagon as much as everyone else who did. So you wanting to get on today makes you +ev wolf

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:19 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:14 am

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:15 pm for example you have not reevaluated after the wagon that killed bereft that you were on

why were you on that wagon, he was your second highest townread????

killing me and me flipping town over syn who is clearly managing their own spew incase they flip is very poor play

you don't actually want to push cape/tutuu/wigly even when wigly was a wagon yesterday as well as neon, but you go bereft who was hesitantly townreading me???

Never caught this if true. Rondo, why did you join the Bereft wagon?

they have answered this already. i have quoted it already in my first post today

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:32 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:28 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:26 pm
it's like... you have had static reads all game, have you not felt the need to relook at stuff?

i've read every single post and don't see a reason to change my immediate poe at this time

i think me staying solid on lucy/tutuu/wilgy causing such a venomous backlash again and again and again is a sign I'm on the right path tbh

the sheer vitriol, hostility, constant insults and sussing of me because I'm staying the course *chef's kiss* it's going to be amazing

Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:17 pm rask dying feels weird tbh.
Not sure what it menas

Level 0 off the top of my head tutuu wolf

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:15 pm for example you have not reevaluated after the wagon that killed bereft that you were on

why were you on that wagon, he was your second highest townread????

killing me and me flipping town over syn who is clearly managing their own spew incase they flip is very poor play

you don't actually want to push cape/tutuu/wigly even when wigly was a wagon yesterday as well as neon, but you go bereft who was hesitantly townreading me???

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:09 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:04 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:09 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:06 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:34 pm @DrWilgy what are your reads

They has not changed much

Cape T
Rondo T
Falcon T
Porscha T
Tutuu Tfn
Neon Tfn

Pyxxy is off and it feels Wolfy.

We need to solve in you/Syn and we should have yesterday.

We go from there.

If we are doing proper mafia play we kill a counterwagon and neons counterwagon gives us the most info. Pyxxy I personally think is town and Neon has been suspicious so if you want to avoid my fpos on lucy Neon is my only other option

I still don't think Neon is correct, but yeah [VOTE: Lucy] aubergine would be a good place to start today.

why? You didnt listen to me today and voted anyone but lucy, why lucy today?

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:07 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:04 am would be a good place to start today.

have you read all my posts today?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:03 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:40 pm What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep through most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Syn and Lucy are likely dif check still.

This is mostly due to alot of unresolved tension around Lucy's slot.

I'd sort between those two and go from there.

technically not an actual difference check

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:09 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:06 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:34 pm @DrWilgy what are your reads

They has not changed much

Cape T
Rondo T
Falcon T
Porscha T
Tutuu Tfn
Neon Tfn

Pyxxy is off and it feels Wolfy.

We need to solve in you/Syn and we should have yesterday.

We go from there.

If we are doing proper mafia play we kill a counterwagon and neons counterwagon gives us the most info. Pyxxy I personally think is town and Neon has been suspicious so if you want to avoid my fpos on lucy Neon is my only other option

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:40 pm What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep through most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:34 pm @DrWilgy what are your reads

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:20 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:17 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:13 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:08 pm current vote count:

Spoiler: show

Bereft, 2
Voters: Seanzie, DrWilgy

Cape90, 0
Voters: None

DrWilgy, 1
Voters: Porscha

falcon45ca, 0
Voters: None

Le petit poussin, 4
Voters: pyxxy, tutuu, Cape90, Bereft

lucy, 2
Voters: Syn, RondoDimBuckle

Neon, 1
Voters: falcon45ca

No Yeet/Sleep, 0
Voters: None

Porscha, 0
Voters: None

pyxxy, 1
Voters: Neon

RondoDimBuckle, 0
Voters: None

Seanzie, 0
Voters: None

Sheep, 0
Voters: None

Syn, 1
Voters: lucy

tutuu, 1
Voters: Le petit poussin

Unvote/Not Voting, 1
Voters: Sheep

didn't realize there were 3 on le petit already, I'm making that a serious wagon, huh

Extract:

"Le petit poussin, 4
Voters: pyxxy, tutuu, Cape90, Bereft"

everyone else gone by -40min from EOD

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:28 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:19 pm 40 minutes.PNG

all this talk about voting le petit and somehow ten minutes ago I was the only person on le petit?

that feels off

and then le petit _is the NK_ and flips town

this feels odd and/or I'm self-centered

also don't know what to make of Wilgy essentially saving me

It was effectively panic.

I still think you were a fine yeet option, but LPP being on that wagon along with Rondo and Cape being on Bereft made me swap last second.

Was Neon also having 4 votes a part of your panic calculations?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:13 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:08 pm current vote count:

Spoiler: show

Bereft, 2
Voters: Seanzie, DrWilgy

Cape90, 0
Voters: None

DrWilgy, 1
Voters: Porscha

falcon45ca, 0
Voters: None

Le petit poussin, 4
Voters: pyxxy, tutuu, Cape90, Bereft

lucy, 2
Voters: Syn, RondoDimBuckle

Neon, 1
Voters: falcon45ca

No Yeet/Sleep, 0
Voters: None

Porscha, 0
Voters: None

pyxxy, 1
Voters: Neon

RondoDimBuckle, 0
Voters: None

Seanzie, 0
Voters: None

Sheep, 0
Voters: None

Syn, 1
Voters: lucy

tutuu, 1
Voters: Le petit poussin

Unvote/Not Voting, 1
Voters: Sheep

didn't realize there were 3 on le petit already, I'm making that a serious wagon, huh

Extract:

"Le petit poussin, 4
Voters: pyxxy, tutuu, Cape90, Bereft"

everyone else gone by -40min from EOD

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:28 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:19 pm 40 minutes.PNG

all this talk about voting le petit and somehow ten minutes ago I was the only person on le petit?

that feels off

and then le petit _is the NK_ and flips town

this feels odd and/or I'm self-centered

also don't know what to make of Wilgy essentially saving me

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:59 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:59 pm Damn I trust players on the Bereft wagon more than pyxxy

no you don't, wolfy

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:57 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:56 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:54 pm Can we just yeet Pyxxy tho?

time to shine, star

Oh fug yeah

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:56 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:54 pm Can we just yeet Pyxxy tho?

time to shine, star

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:48 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:45 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:43 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:34 am I do not understand why you all are still engaging with Rondo. It's obvious they're just going to keep spitting out responses to justify their "readlists" each time any one of you says something. And yes I do believe this implies that most of their responses have been unserious.

the more i look at this post, the more i hate it

Idk, I see it as one of the more genuine anti Rondo shoves.

if you think its wolf why are you on lucy with me?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:46 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:25 pm An analysis on your play regarding Lucy.

It feels very wolf AI.

Perhaps if the stance you gave wasn't secondhand from Seanzie I'd feel less inclined, but it all feels very stand out of danger and be right. Those behaviors are wolf indicative I think.

If you absolutely need the quote it's this one:

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:44 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:42 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:24 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:02 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:05 am

Is this read deterministic of Lucy's alignment?

No, but I'd gth Lucy town for other reasons.

What are these reasons?

They did a reaction test that I thought was kinda townie, even if not necessarily the most well-thought out. I've also never seen scum!Lucy AtE this much, and I'm usually of the mindset that if someone seems really upset, I give them the benefit of the doubt, and if they end up being scum, they never get the BoD again.

this tbh. I would be pretty mad if she is actually wolfing here.

This just feels like it's forcefully completely absolving you of responsibility on one of the more heated subjects of the thread.

But you also can't just read this quote alone to know that It needs the context of your ISO and thus individual quotes are somewhat pointless.

how probable compared to it being a guenine thought and feeling?

For context, I have only played with her in goc (half a day even, she was shot, I was N1ed), but had some chats with her. I think she is cool and worthy person and also skilled at fm. But I do not like excessive AtE and would be disappointed if she viewed it as fair game (I mean I get being competitive, but I still hate it). that's pretty simple actually. I was actually reading stuff around Neon when I saw Seanzie's post so +1ed it. As you say, villaging is also about putting stuff itt.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:43 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:34 am I do not understand why you all are still engaging with Rondo. It's obvious they're just going to keep spitting out responses to justify their "readlists" each time any one of you says something. And yes I do believe this implies that most of their responses have been unserious.

the more i look at this post, the more i hate it