The Syndicate

Mmmm... Banner.

I should go through and update my banners. Gotta find my full victory list.

Guillo it was a pleasure wolfing with you.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:06 pm You are one hell of a scary substitution Kate

This.

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:05 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:02 pm By the way I appreciate being allowed to play a second day and I'm completely sincere in that.
You're welcome

[VOTE: kate] aubergine
I love you wilgs.

Ily too!! I'm very glad to play with you

When I'm w you perpetually destroy me handedly very often. When I'm T you do the same, but I know you'll still carry me after.

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:02 pm By the way I appreciate being allowed to play a second day and I'm completely sincere in that.

You're welcome

[VOTE: kate] aubergine

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:59 pm See I kinda play backwards. My mind seems to focus on who is civ first. When I got here, this game was pretty much solved, just no one was putting it into words.

I'd bet my life that zenon is civ, I know I'm civ.

Zenon and guillo was t/w. Guillo is the wolf.

That leaves pyxxy and you. And pyxxy is civ.

And that PoE is wrong.

Even more annoyingly, like, if you are town, I don't know how you ever find me because of that foil you quite literally always have for me.

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:53 pm Ok I see you've left and I'm talking to walls again.

Thanks for coming. I appreciate you

*Lick*

I'm just busy this weekend lol

I'll be in and out.

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:41 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:37 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:36 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:35 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:34 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:30 pm

Well, sweets. It's you.
The fact that this is the push is somewhat absurd.

I put Guillo at a tie with Tutuu d1 twice.

Guillo has no viable teammates.
You trying to suggest guillo isn't bad is absurd. I could see you defending yourself, but he is pretty much outted.
Who is the teammate then?
Do you just want me to be honest or keep playing around? It's you.
I'm pretty much clocked out of this back and forth already. On the VERY slight chance it's not you, you're going to lose this for us thinking it's me.

Guillo/Me is nonsense.

I'll let the others enter thread though before I vote Zenon.
So you're telling me you don't think guillo is bad?

Zenon is civ. Locktown.

No, I don't think Guillo is bad.

Guillo has no teammates here. Tell me why I'm wrong in thinking that.

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:37 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:36 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:35 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:34 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:30 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:28 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:27 pm

Why don't we worry about that after we get one down?
It's F5, no ma'am. Ty though.
Well, sweets. It's you.
The fact that this is the push is somewhat absurd.

I put Guillo at a tie with Tutuu d1 twice.

Guillo has no viable teammates.
You trying to suggest guillo isn't bad is absurd. I could see you defending yourself, but he is pretty much outted.
Who is the teammate then?
Do you just want me to be honest or keep playing around? It's you.

I'm pretty much clocked out of this back and forth already. On the VERY slight chance it's not you, you're going to lose this for us thinking it's me.

Guillo/Me is nonsense.

I'll let the others enter thread though before I vote Zenon.

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:35 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:34 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:30 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:28 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:27 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:25 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:23 pm

And guillo pushed it over. You're honestly gonna tell me he's not a wolf. C'mon.
Aye, who's his teammate? Zenon/Guillo only works if before EoD was theater, but that EoD was another nightmare.
Why don't we worry about that after we get one down?
It's F5, no ma'am. Ty though.
Well, sweets. It's you.
The fact that this is the push is somewhat absurd.

I put Guillo at a tie with Tutuu d1 twice.

Guillo has no viable teammates.
You trying to suggest guillo isn't bad is absurd. I could see you defending yourself, but he is pretty much outted.

Who is the teammate then?

Gonna sell me on W!Pyx next?

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:30 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:28 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:27 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:25 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:22 pm Like, idk why I'm choosing not to though. The moment I advised that I'd be in and out Zenon and Guillo decided to hammer, so that was cool. Zenon hammering another town read.
And guillo pushed it over. You're honestly gonna tell me he's not a wolf. C'mon.
Aye, who's his teammate? Zenon/Guillo only works if before EoD was theater, but that EoD was another nightmare.
Why don't we worry about that after we get one down?
It's F5, no ma'am. Ty though.
Well, sweets. It's you.

The fact that this is the push is somewhat absurd.

I put Guillo at a tie with Tutuu d1 twice.

Guillo has no viable teammates.

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:27 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:25 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:22 pm Like, idk why I'm choosing not to though. The moment I advised that I'd be in and out Zenon and Guillo decided to hammer, so that was cool. Zenon hammering another town read.
And guillo pushed it over. You're honestly gonna tell me he's not a wolf. C'mon.
Aye, who's his teammate? Zenon/Guillo only works if before EoD was theater, but that EoD was another nightmare.
Why don't we worry about that after we get one down?

It's F5, no ma'am. Ty though.

And I'm trying to not be too frustrated about how EoD, but I kept coming back to the thread at night to just be annoyed again.

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:25 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:24 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:22 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:19 pm Good morning.

Very much fighting the Kate snapvote temptation.
Try voting guillo. I'll vote with you.
The one world, where it is not you and Zenon, it's Zenon and Guillo and they were just open wolfing EoD.

I don't think that's the case though and do think I'll have a hard time not thinking it's you.
youre adorable.

Thanks I try.

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:22 pm Like, idk why I'm choosing not to though. The moment I advised that I'd be in and out Zenon and Guillo decided to hammer, so that was cool. Zenon hammering another town read.
And guillo pushed it over. You're honestly gonna tell me he's not a wolf. C'mon.

Aye, who's his teammate? Zenon/Guillo only works if before EoD was theater, but that EoD was another nightmare.

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:22 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:19 pm Good morning.

Very much fighting the Kate snapvote temptation.
Try voting guillo. I'll vote with you.

The one world, where it is not you and Zenon, it's Zenon and Guillo and they were just open wolfing EoD.

I don't think that's the case though and do think I'll have a hard time not thinking it's you.

Like, idk why I'm choosing not to though. The moment I advised that I'd be in and out Zenon and Guillo decided to hammer, so that was cool. Zenon hammering another town read.

Good morning.

Very much fighting the Kate snapvote temptation.

I should add that I'm in and out and don't know if I'll be around for EoD.

Sitting in a really anxious Dr appt, so I'm only really gonna see and digest direct quotes/pings for a minute.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:28 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:18 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:27 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:10 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:09 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:33 pm

Rand is anti town

Rand is strictly not anti town if you enable a 50/50 between a w and t where it was just a t going over previously though...
Rand is anti town. I will never let a vote rand if I can help it. Ever.
I disagree with this view very much.

You threw your own top town over because of this thinking then decided to blame everyone else. I think your flawed view on ties and how to handle a perceived TvT game state here is exactly what's caused this aggravating game state we are in now. I think, in a TvT game state, if one should try to rationalize the arguments made for each (as it's impossible for everyone involved to be wolf), and then make the best vote even if it results in a tie. That will always result in a higher chance for a W flip.

I think I'd be more keen to just try trusting your Kate read if it wasn't for the blaming of others and the AtE you expressed in response into the EoD which really reminds me of your gameplay in Hot Fuzz. There's a big difference between 'I panic'd and impulsively voted, my bad' and the AtE and blame you expressed going into this phase.

Also, I don't want this to come across as a criticism on you, rather my view on EoD and following. I somewhat struggled writing this one out as you are my friend and I do want to think you are town, acking that I think you are town, I can see this view of yours being genuine. I do not wish to bash/criticize your genuine view or emotion related. I don't think I'd make this argument in the first place if I didn't think it was needed for expressing my thoughts on this game state and where I'm at.
You would say zero of this if I hadn't froze and instead flipped my vote back to Epi after he moved.

But nothing will change my view

Ties are fucking trash I will not allow one.
Correct. Epi wasn't your set in stone for two days town read.
Can we move past the Rem vote?

Bruh.

Literally the silliest EoD that's caused where we are at now. Why wouldn't I talk about it?

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:31 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:29 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:49 am
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:45 am

Do you think it's epi? If so why?
Aye, I think it kinda has to just be Epi.

Pyx and Falc are town and I'd bet the game on it.

Guillo I don't have a meta for, but I really don't think a wolf has the interactions with Seanzie that Guillo had D2.

Don't think it's Zenon either.
Who is my teammate? You?
You and Kate makes sense. I the interactions with Kate previously look theatre ish and I find it very odd that you'd go out of your way to vote Zenon before Kate assuming you think the team is those two.

If it's not in Kate you and Guillo also works.
Omg. Yeet this guy.
Geez, I thought we were closer than "this guy"

Could've been "this nerd"

"This gremlin"

But guy?
I'm sorry. Yeet this bad ass Dr lickin good Ole chap.

Thank you, that's better.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:49 am
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:45 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:43 am
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:29 am

I don't think it's Epi.
y tho
Do you think it's epi? If so why?
Aye, I think it kinda has to just be Epi.

Pyx and Falc are town and I'd bet the game on it.

Guillo I don't have a meta for, but I really don't think a wolf has the interactions with Seanzie that Guillo had D2.

Don't think it's Zenon either.
Who is my teammate? You?
You and Kate makes sense. I the interactions with Kate previously look theatre ish and I find it very odd that you'd go out of your way to vote Zenon before Kate assuming you think the team is those two.

If it's not in Kate you and Guillo also works.
Omg. Yeet this guy.

Geez, I thought we were closer than "this guy"

Could've been "this nerd"

"This gremlin"

But guy?

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:18 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:27 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:10 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:09 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:33 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:31 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:25 pm

is it really that easy sometimes?

Why the need to untie the wagons? Why not vote Epi if she's been TR Rem at that point? What kind of interactions does she have w/ Epi?

Yeah, sometimes it is that easy
Rand is anti town

Rand is strictly not anti town if you enable a 50/50 between a w and t where it was just a t going over previously though...
Rand is anti town. I will never let a vote rand if I can help it. Ever.
I disagree with this view very much.

You threw your own top town over because of this thinking then decided to blame everyone else. I think your flawed view on ties and how to handle a perceived TvT game state here is exactly what's caused this aggravating game state we are in now. I think, in a TvT game state, if one should try to rationalize the arguments made for each (as it's impossible for everyone involved to be wolf), and then make the best vote even if it results in a tie. That will always result in a higher chance for a W flip.

I think I'd be more keen to just try trusting your Kate read if it wasn't for the blaming of others and the AtE you expressed in response into the EoD which really reminds me of your gameplay in Hot Fuzz. There's a big difference between 'I panic'd and impulsively voted, my bad' and the AtE and blame you expressed going into this phase.

Also, I don't want this to come across as a criticism on you, rather my view on EoD and following. I somewhat struggled writing this one out as you are my friend and I do want to think you are town, acking that I think you are town, I can see this view of yours being genuine. I do not wish to bash/criticize your genuine view or emotion related. I don't think I'd make this argument in the first place if I didn't think it was needed for expressing my thoughts on this game state and where I'm at.
You would say zero of this if I hadn't froze and instead flipped my vote back to Epi after he moved.

But nothing will change my view

Ties are fucking trash I will not allow one.

Correct. Epi wasn't your set in stone for two days town read.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:53 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:07 am Guillo Wilgy is the team

Kill falcon if I'm wrong

Pyx Robyn Epi are always town

Bet bet

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:08 am I also think falcon is just town

Actually maybe Guillo >Wilgy > Pyx > Falcon but I'd be surprised if Guillo Wilg doesn't just end the game
If I was scum in Zenon position, I wouldn't be defending my teammate and risk associating them with me.

I would be distancing.

Zenon is clearly distancing from Wilgy here.

Specially because if you check her ISO they've been townreading each other and when they "suspected" each other it was very subtle.

And Wilgy looked like he had TMI on Tutuu, also he parked on me most of Day 2 as a wolf trying to capitalize on me for being the unresolved day 1 wagon. Then he tried to associate me with him while shielding Zenon in the process.

It is Zenon/Wilgy!

Epi was just the guy Zenon set up to look partnered with her along with myself, but since I flipped an 180 on her for killing Rem, she had no choice but to thunderdome.

@Zenon @DrWilgy i caught you motherflowers! Who wants to die first?

Is this serious? Or silly nonsense? Because I REAAAAAAALLY like silly nonsense 1047.23% of the time.

If it was Zenon and I, Zenon doesn't even partake in the EoD shuffle, there'd be 0 reason for it to happen.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:34 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:27 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:10 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:09 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:33 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:31 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:25 pm

is it really that easy sometimes?

Why the need to untie the wagons? Why not vote Epi if she's been TR Rem at that point? What kind of interactions does she have w/ Epi?

Yeah, sometimes it is that easy
Rand is anti town

Rand is strictly not anti town if you enable a 50/50 between a w and t where it was just a t going over previously though...
Rand is anti town. I will never let a vote rand if I can help it. Ever.
I disagree with this view very much.

You threw your own top town over because of this thinking then decided to blame everyone else. I think your flawed view on ties and how to handle a perceived TvT game state here is exactly what's caused this aggravating game state we are in now. I think, in a TvT game state, if one should try to rationalize the arguments made for each (as it's impossible for everyone involved to be wolf), and then make the best vote even if it results in a tie. That will always result in a higher chance for a W flip.

I think I'd be more keen to just try trusting your Kate read if it wasn't for the blaming of others and the AtE you expressed in response into the EoD which really reminds me of your gameplay in Hot Fuzz. There's a big difference between 'I panic'd and impulsively voted, my bad' and the AtE and blame you expressed going into this phase.

Also, I don't want this to come across as a criticism on you, rather my view on EoD and following. I somewhat struggled writing this one out as you are my friend and I do want to think you are town, acking that I think you are town, I can see this view of yours being genuine. I do not wish to bash/criticize your genuine view or emotion related. I don't think I'd make this argument in the first place if I didn't think it was needed for expressing my thoughts on this game state and where I'm at.
Rand is anti town though. But yah, she eliminating Rem does not make sense.

In fact anyone who voices a townread in that behavior with clear no lack of paranoia is a wolf with TMI if Zenon flips town because no one in their right mind would believe that shit was townie.

Rand is anti town. Forcing a rand to fall on your town read is more anti town.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:49 am
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:45 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:43 am
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:29 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:20 am Kill Guillo Epi or Wilgy

It'll be exelo but that's the PoE

I'm out

Kate is lock town
I don't think it's Epi.
y tho
Do you think it's epi? If so why?
Aye, I think it kinda has to just be Epi.

Pyx and Falc are town and I'd bet the game on it.

Guillo I don't have a meta for, but I really don't think a wolf has the interactions with Seanzie that Guillo had D2.

Don't think it's Zenon either.
Who is my teammate? You?

You and Kate makes sense. I the interactions with Kate previously look theatre ish and I find it very odd that you'd go out of your way to vote Zenon before Kate assuming you think the team is those two.

If it's not in Kate you and Guillo also works.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:40 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:49 am
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:45 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:43 am
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:29 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:20 am Kill Guillo Epi or Wilgy

It'll be exelo but that's the PoE

I'm out

Kate is lock town
I don't think it's Epi.
y tho
Do you think it's epi? If so why?
Aye, I think it kinda has to just be Epi.

Pyx and Falc are town and I'd bet the game on it.

Guillo I don't have a meta for, but I really don't think a wolf has the interactions with Seanzie that Guillo had D2.

Don't think it's Zenon either.
So me, you, zenon, pyx, falcon, guillo are all town? I don't think that maths.

But I don't think you are townie and I acknowledge that I could be wrong on Zenon.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:38 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:51 am And honestly your Epi read being contrary, for minimal perceived reason, and what almost seems like an arbitrary refusal of omgus, makes me think your opinion on the matter has agenda.

I'd expect T to have speculation over those pushing them that I do not see in you at all.
And I don't automatically think people are bad just bc they wrongly thing I am. Sometimes, they're just wrong.

Aye, and I don't think it is an automatic thing either. It does normally exist though. It's also only more agenda-y in tandem with the lack of reason.

I know you are a very intuitive townie, but I have also seen arguments and reason from you that help me understand you.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:37 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:51 am And honestly your Epi read being contrary, for minimal perceived reason, and what almost seems like an arbitrary refusal of omgus, makes me think your opinion on the matter has agenda.

I'd expect T to have speculation over those pushing them that I do not see in you at all.
I've been here for a day and have read about 10 pages so...doing the best I can with that.

I always have minimally perceived reason.

And I appreciate you

And honestly your Epi read being contrary, for minimal perceived reason, and what almost seems like an arbitrary refusal of omgus, makes me think your opinion on the matter has agenda.

I'd expect T to have speculation over those pushing them that I do not see in you at all.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:45 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:43 am
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:29 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:20 am Kill Guillo Epi or Wilgy

It'll be exelo but that's the PoE

I'm out

Kate is lock town
I don't think it's Epi.
y tho
Do you think it's epi? If so why?

Aye, I think it kinda has to just be Epi.

Pyx and Falc are town and I'd bet the game on it.

Guillo I don't have a meta for, but I really don't think a wolf has the interactions with Seanzie that Guillo had D2.

Don't think it's Zenon either.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:44 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:28 am I hope that blurb above makes sense.

I'm very hesitant to trust Kate now and I'm not very keen on Zenon's read supporting is the tldr and the above is what's adding to that feeling.
I'm finding it very hard to believe you.

Alright, why?

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:29 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:20 am Kill Guillo Epi or Wilgy

It'll be exelo but that's the PoE

I'm out

Kate is lock town
I don't think it's Epi.

y tho

I hope that blurb above makes sense.

I'm very hesitant to trust Kate now and I'm not very keen on Zenon's read supporting is the tldr and the above is what's adding to that feeling.

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:10 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:09 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:33 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:31 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:25 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:22 pm Epi looks to be partnered if Neon flips red
is it really that easy sometimes?

Why the need to untie the wagons? Why not vote Epi if she's been TR Rem at that point? What kind of interactions does she have w/ Epi?

Yeah, sometimes it is that easy
Rand is anti town

Rand is strictly not anti town if you enable a 50/50 between a w and t where it was just a t going over previously though...
Rand is anti town. I will never let a vote rand if I can help it. Ever.

I disagree with this view very much.

You threw your own top town over because of this thinking then decided to blame everyone else. I think your flawed view on ties and how to handle a perceived TvT game state here is exactly what's caused this aggravating game state we are in now. I think, in a TvT game state, if one should try to rationalize the arguments made for each (as it's impossible for everyone involved to be wolf), and then make the best vote even if it results in a tie. That will always result in a higher chance for a W flip.

I think I'd be more keen to just try trusting your Kate read if it wasn't for the blaming of others and the AtE you expressed in response into the EoD which really reminds me of your gameplay in Hot Fuzz. There's a big difference between 'I panic'd and impulsively voted, my bad' and the AtE and blame you expressed going into this phase.

Also, I don't want this to come across as a criticism on you, rather my view on EoD and following. I somewhat struggled writing this one out as you are my friend and I do want to think you are town, acking that I think you are town, I can see this view of yours being genuine. I do not wish to bash/criticize your genuine view or emotion related. I don't think I'd make this argument in the first place if I didn't think it was needed for expressing my thoughts on this game state and where I'm at.

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

this vote possesses 43.5% accuracy and 0.0002% lick.

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:33 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:31 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:25 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:22 pm Epi looks to be partnered if Neon flips red
is it really that easy sometimes?

Why the need to untie the wagons? Why not vote Epi if she's been TR Rem at that point? What kind of interactions does she have w/ Epi?

Yeah, sometimes it is that easy
Rand is anti town

Rand is strictly not anti town if you enable a 50/50 between a w and t where it was just a t going over previously though...

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:02 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:42 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:37 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:29 pm eod is still some time away and there's time for ppl to come and post more, and hopefully post normally

but im not opposed to chopping any one of the people who hasnt given too much normal and readable opinions. as in, understandable. or any opinions at all

i dont think town wins if there's too many of players like that alive at mid game
I'd prefer Zenon over Seanzie in this moment. Zenon is bragging about providing content but the vast majority of it is superfluous.

Seanzie basically looked at the thread and said "fuck this."

I can empathize a little with the latter. I have no tolerance for the former.
Lmfao I'm so sick of people acting like I do nothing because I use mafia as a way to make friends and chat in between actually playing the game.

I could quote every post I've made with actual game content in it but I'm lazy your treating me exactly as wolfs often try to in order to diminish my input and volume because discrediting high posters is an important tactic when wolfing.

Of course nobody will listen when I'm dead
While building my case i found this.

The way Zenon responded to Epignosis was too closely emotional to be an interaction with another wolf.

To be fair, I don't think the emotion between Zenon and a potential teammate should be discrediting of W/W.

Spoiler below from when Zenon and I were W/W:

Spoiler: show

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:51 pm Wilgy and pyxxy youre seriously voting no vote on day 3 with no wolves uncovered??

Aye, I don't want to end the day early. Like I said, cook abit and we'll go from there.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:03 pm @DrWilgy will you join me?

Not on that wagon. At least not without REALLY good reason lol.

Guillo has been leaking towny entitlement for 2 cycles now.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:52 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:29 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:23 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:20 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:18 pm If it's really best for me to be removed from PoE:

Legacy
Falcon, Guillo, Pyx, Zenon town

Seanzie seems like frustrated town

Epi doesn't seem in likeness to W meta

Robyn and Rem seem wolfy but Zenon says no so w/e.

And I only say this because it seems a lot of people I tr just think I'm wolf, so this must be the way.
So right now your best guess at a wolf team is Robyn/Rem? Or something else?
I'd think at least one in Robyn/Rem. The team works, but is Zenon really wrong in both? Probably not.

The teammate would be some area where I have misread. I.e. epi actually being in scum range or your frustrated wolf looks just like frustrated town.

I'd say possibly wrong on you/epi then Guillo/Pyxxy but I really don't think I'm wrong in Falc/Zenon
Is there any reason you seem to want Robyn a lot more than Rem?
@DrWilgy it looks like your position must have changed a lot since then. It's now known neither Rem nor Robyn were wolf, so who does that leave in your POE?

lmao @w!kate here, current position and thinkin:
I think solving you/Epi should be priority right now.

Epi I tr'd on meta but that's waning as the game continues.

Your predecessor was wolfy in general, but I'll let you cook.

I think this is T Zenon, but I do not trust their reads.

Pyx, Guillo, and Falcon all seem townspewed.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:49 pm @Zenon come back.

Where did everyone go??

I went to cook dinner. Some gochujang chicken and enoki over rice. Was good.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:16 pm Was there any talk about why Sean was killed?

I actually don't think so? Probably a good place to review.

This conversation is becoming stupid.

If 3 people including yourself voting Rem indicates that everyone is 'not listening' then so be it.

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:02 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:41 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:34 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:54 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:52 pmHi guys
Hello!
This slot is civ.

I haven't read. What's going on?
I've been calling you town for 27 days and nobody listens to my
This doesn't even feel fair tbh. I actually tried pretty hard to listen to your Rem read and stuck by that until it fell over. Now you've proposed solves that both feel incorrect and are incorrect.
Quite literally how is it not fair when one of my towns has been a viable wagon on every single game day

You can't just say that no one is listening when I've actively gone out of my way to gauge your read and utilize that to make the best vote. I wanted to vote Rem yesterday as well, but didn't because of your read and in spite of that you voted Rem yourself. So how is that fair?

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:34 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:54 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:52 pmHi guys
Hello!
This slot is civ.

I haven't read. What's going on?
I've been calling you town for 27 days and nobody listens to my

This doesn't even feel fair tbh. I actually tried pretty hard to listen to your Rem read and stuck by that until it fell over. Now you've proposed solves that both feel incorrect and are incorrect.

ebwop: pretty much throughout all of d2.

Feel like my brain stopped halfway through me typing that and then I finished it without actually finishing the sentence 12.9% correctly.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:19 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:13 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:54 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:52 pmHi guys
Hello!
This slot is civ.

I haven't read. What's going on?
You kinda showed up right when we needed you.

I was opting for the yeet of your slot. Your predecessor looked like they were doing busy work and were cool with slanking. Zenon, however, says no and that you're town.

Guillo and Zenon seem to be throwing down, and I don't know how I feel about both Epi and Zenon's slot following EoD tomfuckery.
I'll read epi. Are you thinking zenon/guillo are w/t? Is that the consensus?

68% sure that it isn't consensus. I was town reading both slots pretty throughout d2.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:17 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:13 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:54 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:52 pmHi guys
Hello!
This slot is civ.

I haven't read. What's going on?
You kinda showed up right when we needed you.

I was opting for the yeet of your slot. Your predecessor looked like they were doing busy work and were cool with slanking. Zenon, however, says no and that you're town.

Guillo and Zenon seem to be throwing down, and I don't know how I feel about both Epi and Zenon's slot following EoD tomfuckery.
So we are on day 3 and only civ misyeets so far?

Zenon is right on this slot.

Yarp.

Ok, I will now trust this entirely.

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