The Syndicate

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:04 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:54 pm So leetic the person who discovers psuedo host controlled truths about the game was roleblocked over a claimed cop...

Neat.
makes me think maybe double targeting isnt in this game?

or also maybe scum thought rb’ing would prevent getting the statements at all

but also. perhaps mister LC did eat the nk. can rb the oracle if you think the “cop” is supposed to die
LC would’ve been informed if mac was

huh?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:59 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:57 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:55 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:01 pm The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.
Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?
Doesn't your role imply that the other two statements must be false if one is true?
No, two are true and one is false
K well there's a janitor then cuz it's appeared twice and the first sentence is virtually impossible to be true unless Roxy decided to put no mafia in this game and is full on trolling.
I could imagine an interpretation where the first sentence means _ended the day_ voting a baddie

I’m on phone and haven’t checked if this more limited interpretation is possible but also now that I write this out it seems op

but even knowing that it’s false is useful?

Probably worth confirming with the host what the intent is

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:01 pm I hard claim that my role is exactly as claimed and if you wanna kill me for it you can

Aight well the alternative is that Leetic is the silencer and tried to silence me hence why he's roleblocked because I 100% successfully blocked someone targeting me and refuse to believe anyone actively roleblocked Leetic.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:54 pm So leetic the person who discovers psuedo host controlled truths about the game was roleblocked over a claimed cop...

Neat.
makes me think maybe double targeting isnt in this game?

or also maybe scum thought rb’ing would prevent getting the statements at all

but also. perhaps mister LC did eat the nk. can rb the oracle if you think the “cop” is supposed to die

These statements aren't important enough to roleblock. Complete waste of a mafia roleblocker. Would rather yolo it on an unclaimed towny than waste it on a role that seems to be a passive anyway.

So wait you got blocked but your ability still works?

Do you have a secondary ability?

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:57 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:55 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:01 pm The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.
Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?
Doesn't your role imply that the other two statements must be false if one is true?
No, two are true and one is false

K well there's a janitor then cuz it's appeared twice and the first sentence is virtually impossible to be true unless Roxy decided to put no mafia in this game and is full on trolling.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:55 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:01 pm The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.
Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?

Doesn't your role imply that the other two statements must be false if one is true?

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:53 pm okay so rondo and LC were claiming town investigative roles and neither died, neither were attacked. anyone have a clue why?

Eh we don't know that they weren't attacked. We just know they aren't dead.

Doctor or LC self protective can be an explanation for why either or both of them are alive.

I'm more curious about how Leetic got roleblocked at this stage. Isn't the town roleblocker dead? Why would scum roleblock Leetic?

So leetic the person who discovers psuedo host controlled truths about the game was roleblocked over a claimed cop...

Neat.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:34 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:32 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:31 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:27 pm

LOL wow you took that hard
Yeah I don't like it. Especially because it looks like I absorbed the NK over you and the other "greens" based on the feedback I received.
I can't speak about your supposed feedback. You got feedback that someone tried to kill you, but failed?
I got feedback I was targeted and now it turns out you were bsing about your role.

Why did you claim full cop instead of just the truth?
I wanted the Wolves to try to kill me.
Why would you want them to kill you?
Because I won a protection for last night by correctly stating to the Host that the Griswold house is the same one as in Hocus Pocus.

Although they were looking for Bewitched, but they accepted my answer because it was also right.

You claimed before that game was played my guy.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:32 pm No silence = silence = odd night and curse = even night = Abi probably lied after all.
But why tell such a lie?

Because wolves lie. Like you.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:32 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:31 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:26 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

die
LOL wow you took that hard
Yeah I don't like it. Especially because it looks like I absorbed the NK over you and the other "greens" based on the feedback I received.
I can't speak about your supposed feedback. You got feedback that someone tried to kill you, but failed?
I got feedback I was targeted and now it turns out you were bsing about your role.

Why did you claim full cop instead of just the truth?
I wanted the Wolves to try to kill me.

Why would you want them to kill you?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:32 pm I thought you were joking when you voted me.

Let's think about this logically. If I'm a Wolf, then I just needlessly complicated my claim, and why wouldn't I simply choose someone and tell you I green checked them?

If every wifom defense worked mafia wouldn't be a thing.

No silence = silence = odd night and curse = even night = Abi probably lied after all.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:26 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

die
LOL wow you took that hard
Yeah I don't like it. Especially because it looks like I absorbed the NK over you and the other "greens" based on the feedback I received.
I can't speak about your supposed feedback. You got feedback that someone tried to kill you, but failed?

I got feedback I was targeted and now it turns out you were bsing about your role.

Why did you claim full cop instead of just the truth?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:26 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

die
LOL wow you took that hard

Yeah I don't like it. Especially because it looks like I absorbed the NK over you and the other "greens" based on the feedback I received.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

die

Stuff got switched around eh.

That's weird.

LC did you get a check?

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:20 pm Host Announcement

We were going to have closed nights but we were thinking since it is the holiday season we'll leave nights open bc that may be the only time someone might have available at the time.
So post or not post at night - it matters not - just trying to make it easy for people to play when they can.

edited for @Serhal

wolf= baddie, scum, mafia

w/w= baddie on baddie, scum on scum, mafia on mafia

we use these vote tags [VOTE: when voting] aubergine

We use this red for when you want to post when you are deaded
We use this beautiful color when we want to be sarcastic without it coming off as bitchy
We use this color for when you feel pedantic
We use my fave color for off topic chat

No one really uses the colors - honestly. But it is for fun and there if needs be.

= @fingersplints
= @LoRab
= @Spacedaisy
= @Long Con
= @JaggedJimmyJay

specifically here lol

this isn't me griping at Roxy at all... I just read this as accidental Host spew which is why I tr serhal so much

I didn't belabour in tho cuz it was a bit unfair lol

yes the host specifically singled out serhal at the start of the game in a way they wouldn't have done unless they were not otherwise in a btsc imo

Remember that time the host spewed Serhal town and I pointed it out but they got miselimmed anyway?

now keep in mind I live about 18 hours in the future from most of you and you might have some idea why my day 1 was what it was

and the host didn't correct you? wot

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:10 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:10 am Pyxxy how do you manage to just like flip a "imma transmit that I'm town to Mac now" switch and can you train the rest of the world?
only twinks have that power

Mmm not all of them lol.

Pyxxy how do you manage to just like flip a "imma transmit that I'm town to Mac now" switch and can you train the rest of the world?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:00 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:58 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:53 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:49 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:46 am I officially am in hellworld.

Everyone is being towny as shit.

There is no lhf wolf in this game to pivot off.

This is rare and fun.
I'm being towny?
I have at lengths explained why I think you are
I believe you I just feel like I've done nothing worth being town read for

Your read is right though and your the only person I trust to read me right in the world so
I believe that you are curser and not silencer and I believe silencer is a wolf and don't believe mafia would have two post cursing roles, you're being transparent with your one and mafia are hiding theirs. That's the read. Leetic argued that you might be behind both but I argued that if you were you'd have just claimed all of it instead of partial claiming and lying about your n1 curse target because you can be caught easily by a track/watch/voyeur by lying that way and there's zero mafia utility in doing it. Leetic and others then pointed out that you like doing weird shit but only cited examples where you did so as town so I won the debate hence why you aren't in everyone's lock POE.

Now given I worked so hard to shield you, you gotta get that brain chem injection and go nuclear town now k.
I'll open claim who I targeted tonight although that might be a bad idea since I know for fact we are indeed 2 separate roles and if I open claim they maybe just target whoever I claim I targeted anyways

Your n1 target was Falcon right?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:54 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:50 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:46 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:44 am
robyn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:33 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:32 amcase Robyn
what's your read on me, pyxxy?
townlean

you're matching your timelines vibes

that was the first time I think I saw chill(er) Robyn it gave me a case of the tinfoils that I kept deep inside me

now I'm willing to just townlean ya for matching it
How is Robyn matching those vibes exactly?
lower activity, although definitely not as low as timelines

somewhat lost / not read up / asks others for summaries

but still contains solving/worlds

it's a townlean
You've kinda outlined a bunch of reasons for why I feel uncomfortable town reading robyn lol

Wolf Robyn has generally higher wim and less propensity to flake than town Robyn that much I concur with.

And I have townread both of Robyn's sprees. They are free wheeling quite well if they are mafia.

Still a plausible wolf cuz they are good though.

Porscha can be mafia here.

I do kind of buy Pyxxy AND DM here, which is nuts to say.

Leetic/Porscha/Tutuu... can it be that?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:53 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:49 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:46 am I officially am in hellworld.

Everyone is being towny as shit.

There is no lhf wolf in this game to pivot off.

This is rare and fun.
I'm being towny?
I have at lengths explained why I think you are
I believe you I just feel like I've done nothing worth being town read for

Your read is right though and your the only person I trust to read me right in the world so

I believe that you are curser and not silencer and I believe silencer is a wolf and don't believe mafia would have two post cursing roles, you're being transparent with your one and mafia are hiding theirs. That's the read. Leetic argued that you might be behind both but I argued that if you were you'd have just claimed all of it instead of partial claiming and lying about your n1 curse target because you can be caught easily by a track/watch/voyeur by lying that way and there's zero mafia utility in doing it. Leetic and others then pointed out that you like doing weird shit but only cited examples where you did so as town so I won the debate hence why you aren't in everyone's lock POE.

Now given I worked so hard to shield you, you gotta get that brain chem injection and go nuclear town now k.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:46 am I officially am in hellworld.

Everyone is being towny as shit.

There is no lhf wolf in this game to pivot off.

This is rare and fun.
I'm being towny?

I have at lengths explained why I think you are

I officially am in hellworld.

Everyone is being towny as shit.

There is no lhf wolf in this game to pivot off.

This is rare and fun.

@Porscha it's your turn to have fallen into the poe. Go.

hunt town then go

also

@Long Con the optimal check rn is clearly porschetta

also also

@Scotty you said I was sus before I claimed my role and now you're saying I'm sus BECAUSE OF it but also seem to recognise I'm progressing the game in a towny way so wtf gip.

@pyxxy why are you townreading me still despite me pushing you non stop all game

and why is tutuu a wolf aside from for pushing you?

why

also @robyn if Scotty is town that means all 3 of his voters are town if you are... so... that's tough pill 2 swallow innit.

but good news is if ur town it means you've got magical vantage.

everyone who says they are town is town

Pyxxy shaddap ur wolfing

I'm versus nobody I'm just out here tryn solve em

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:33 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:27 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:25 pm I would have gone pyxxy over Serhal. I was on pyxxy... but then pyxxy was too present, and could have thrown a wrench.
Sure but I mean like earlier, much earlier. Pyxxy would have been pressured by mafia after his PR claim. That's how mafia deal with it. They just laugh, call him outed and force him to full claim with vote pressure.
incorrect - please see D1 VCA and then check my role at end of game
viewtopic.php?t=2523

I am immune to vote pressure.

ah yes cuz all wolves know that

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:21 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:02 am @Scotty pls solve DM
I’m a bit loopy on flu meds but

I…I think she might be town.

And I…I think Mac is power wolfing

The claim ‘don’t target me, I’ll block you’ is super scary and convenient for a wolf to make.

I seem to remember he was ascetic in a past big game, and WAS actually town ascetic. So this isn’t outside of town possibility.

I’m just gonna let him marinate. He’s making some GREAT talking points and if he IS town, I don’t think we’re gonna wait very long for a pelt (no pressure)

But I think he’s barking up the wrong tree with DM. For the first time I think she might be town here

Yeh but I also kinda think that and the only reason you do is cuz I've painstakingly gone to the got dang trouble of making them say towny shid.

@RondoDimBuckle and as far as your proposition is concerned... sure I don't see the harm.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:55 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:52 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:07 am @RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.
Oh Rondo. Yeah so you pushed a town who was pushing me for pushing me.

Good wolf play. You saw a townie being wrong pushing a townie you'd been pocketing and called them out. Go you.
yeah, because I knew Rondo was town? this was way before the green check; and also wouldnt have a wolf just encourage rondo and gone along with it instead of questioning it?

Yeah wolves do happen to know the alignment of the players it's part of the fun.

In fact you pushed two townies there.

Pushed Rondo then Serhal.

So yeah you shielded me, a town. That's cool of you and all but wolves shield me. In this game with the POE we have shielding me is mechanically confirmed to have been a wolf tactic because everyone who was pushing me is a clear lol.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:37 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:34 am How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.
what? how?
You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.
Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did

Last part of this paragraph Rondo.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:07 am @RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.

Oh Rondo. Yeah so you pushed a town who was pushing me for pushing me.

Good wolf play. You saw a townie being wrong pushing a townie you'd been pocketing and called them out. Go you.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:49 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:48 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:43 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:37 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:35 am

what? how?
You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.
Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did
Show me how you prevented me getting voted out again.
i called out the lack of rhetoric involving your votes, @ people who had votes against you, and joined w/ a vote towards a player i felt was scummy which then lead them to have like 5/6 votes and you with like 1 and then 0
which player was that?
bruh

Which player did you push over that saved me? Was it a wolf?

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:43 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:37 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:34 am How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.
what? how?
You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.
Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did
Show me how you prevented me getting voted out again.
i called out the lack of rhetoric involving your votes, @ people who had votes against you, and joined w/ a vote towards a player i felt was scummy which then lead them to have like 5/6 votes and you with like 1 and then 0

which player was that?

Also you just slipped that you know I'm town.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:37 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:34 am How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.
what? how?
You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.
Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did

Show me how you prevented me getting voted out again.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:38 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:36 am Anyway with great fortune two of the players out of the three appear to be mechanically town so DM just gave @Long Con and @Scotty the job of being right about them.

Over to you gents. I've tried lol.
you have just decided to not town read me bc i town read you, which is just strange

youre just finding any reason to wolf read me when truth is, im not wolf, so good luck with that

That's not true. I'm not even wolfreading you that much. You're just not mechanically town and I'm trying to solve you by questioning you. It's more like a cross examination than an accusation.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:34 am How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.
what? how?

You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.

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