The Syndicate

Lol at Turnip Head calling out Kyle in grumpychat straight away despite Kyle trying to hide his identity.

Also quin would have got voted back in instead of me if Spacedaisy didn't ask for someone to rezz me and then it turned out her plan to rezz me was unfeasible given I was a stump anyway. If I didn't get rezzed I don't know if sprityo and Colin would have been lynched before Kyle and Epi (probably would have still tbh).

JHC you guys were lucky to get your kills off every night after reading your deadchat and seeing that Epi and I were coordinating our doctoring efforts so well.

Colin you make a wonderful team captain.

"Believe in yourself Luna!"

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:43 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:42 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:39 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:37 pm Also, I didn’t intend to actually criticize TH’s wincon as a flaw in the set-up, I just seized on it as something to attack in an attempt to thin the numbers/give Luna some time if possible. I hope you can forgive me Turbup.
That was actually the moment I really thought you were bad, because if you were honest about your role it made turnips an extremely coincidental lie if it was one.
Well, I was kind of honest about my role ... and kind of not
But I mean, I thought a townie with that role would be more likely to defend TH.

I had the same thought fleetingly. I was pinged by Colin seeing his own mechanism as a claim and going after the player rather than just believing it.

Speedchuck tbh I think the game worked out fine. The scum nearly won in the end and games are inherently scum favouring so if anything a close civilian one is a good result if balance was your effort.

The only thing I would have done different ironically is I would have definitely decided against doing the deadchat rezz thing when you did given the deadchat was full of civilians.

Epi we targeted the same people every night until I was gone. Fortunately mine was a delayed doctor so it was actually working really well.

Interesting that when I came back there was only one dead scum up until then.

Hooray. I finally have a win in a full game. Only took 3 years.

I actually really, really sucked this game until I came back as a stump and finally made that case against sprityo. I was wrong about almost everything except the angle shooting on Choutas replacing out and consistently reading scotty as town. Wrong about sig and sooooo wrong about Colin. Wrong going after Epi, Kyle, Golden, wrong on day 1 about nutella and quin. Wrong about spacedaisy at the start. I also thought Lunalee was town at one point.

Colin you fooled me real good, didn't fool Golden but you definitely fooled me.

Have we won yet?

I am the force ghost of The Doctor if that counts

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:58 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:54 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:29 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:34 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:19 am Just shoot me.

You won’t do it
I won't do it because you think I'm too scared, or you think I won't do it because you clustering.

I won't use it on someone unless I am fairly confident in their alignment. Because I don't particularly want to end up dead.

But that is hardly a way to convince me of this sprityo. I'm town, it would be better if you convinced me you are town too. I can see a mafia utility in your role, and I can see how Colin's claims seem weak. I'm leaning you too, but I'm not ruling out Kyle or Epi 100%.
I adamantly believe sprityo is bad. My concern lies in if Colin is bad, would he be able to predict the next election and give himself a double vote for Day 6?

I suppose the way your gun works is that it functions as a free lynch (either your target or yourself).
I am going by the assumption that Colin completely made up his role mechanism actually. Especially given he has apparently failed to predict an election yet. I believe he has a function based on prediction but I don't think he gets a double vote. I think it's more likely that it gets him one shot abilities such as strongarm kills etc.
Just to clear things up, I've never targeted you. The Night you departed I had protected Spacedaisy, beveling that surely one of she, Scotty, or Golden/juliets would be the target.

FYI if anyone has any doubt that Epignosis is town, I think this almost clears it up. There is no reason for a Mafia Epignosis to post this. There's no way for anybody to disprove that he targeted me, so it would be in Mafia Epi's best interest to let me believe there are strongarm kills.

Why were you so sure I wouldn't get targeted? I was sure I was going to get targeted based on the fact that I thought everyone else was protected and out of the "POE" pool I was the least likely to be protected.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:55 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:52 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:50 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:23 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:20 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:17 pm @ColinIsCool same question
I’m looking at Sprit and Epi, if there are 2.
Well of course you are, sweetie. Whom else is there to look at if nobody gave you a mirror?
Mac’s mother-in-law
I am revelling in all this attack on my mother-in-law. She's a cow.
My mother-in-law is coming to stay with us for a week starting Saturday.

She firmly disapproves of drinking.

Actually that's about all we have in common. She's always good for a cigarette, chat and a drink. Unfortunately the topic of conversation is usually her asking about the comings and goings of her estranged ex husband and her juvenile dating behaviours. It's as awkward as it sounds and I do not enjoy it.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:29 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:34 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:19 am Just shoot me.

You won’t do it
I won't do it because you think I'm too scared, or you think I won't do it because you clustering.

I won't use it on someone unless I am fairly confident in their alignment. Because I don't particularly want to end up dead.

But that is hardly a way to convince me of this sprityo. I'm town, it would be better if you convinced me you are town too. I can see a mafia utility in your role, and I can see how Colin's claims seem weak. I'm leaning you too, but I'm not ruling out Kyle or Epi 100%.
I adamantly believe sprityo is bad. My concern lies in if Colin is bad, would he be able to predict the next election and give himself a double vote for Day 6?

I suppose the way your gun works is that it functions as a free lynch (either your target or yourself).

I am going by the assumption that Colin completely made up his role mechanism actually. Especially given he has apparently failed to predict an election yet. I believe he has a function based on prediction but I don't think he gets a double vote. I think it's more likely that it gets him one shot abilities such as strongarm kills etc.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:50 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:23 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:20 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:17 pm @ColinIsCool same question
I’m looking at Sprit and Epi, if there are 2.
Well of course you are, sweetie. Whom else is there to look at if nobody gave you a mirror?
Mac’s mother-in-law

I am revelling in all this attack on my mother-in-law. She's a cow.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:23 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:21 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:11 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:08 pm Ok look. Kyle definitely targeted me last night. And Epi definitely visited Juliet’s last night but she didn’t die, which leads me to believe he is a doctor as he says. I don’t see another reason to visit her.

This leaves me with Colin and Sprityo.
how do you know epi's target?
I tracked Epi last night.
On the one hand, I am mad at myself that I did what I did, namely, I protected Scotty and then went back and changed my mind after a quick second thought, because I've done such a bad job determining what other people would do, and I wanted to make sure juliets survived since she was the beneficiary of the poll. I was assuming Scotty was going to protect juliets, but I didn't want to take any chances. So the bad news is had I left things alone, there would not have been a vanishing and we'd be better off numerically.

No dude you were in a tough predicament. I was trying to coerce them into shooting at Scotty because I wanted them to feel like you had protected Juliets, I had protected Spacedaisy and Scotty had protected you. It worked. The last part of the plan was for you to switch but it relied on telepathy which is always a risky proposition.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:36 am trying to figure out how this could even concievably fuck up and I'm coming up blank? if mafia is epignosis and juliets somehow, I think that's the only possible bad scenario

Epi... and Golden? After Golden quit the game because of their fight?

If we miss with the gun and then mislynch the scum deserve their victory quite frankly.

That's such a nice thing to say especially when most people seem to just call me an asshole or whatever haha.

Unless there are three scum left after all and it's only not over because we have doctor alive who might be able to stop a kill, then yeah it's gonna be over with this kill...

And the POE would be tightly wound my friend. Tightly wound.

It's going to happen right now. That'd just confirm sprityo as a civilian and then we'd have 5 left with 2 Mafia and know sprityo is a civ. It's a dope idea even if it backfires.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:50 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:49 am Alright. If I die instead, then you know that sprityo is confirmed civ.
if you die instead the game ends :0

Why would it?

She's telling the truth. Sprityo has been demonstrated to be a liar already. He's bad.

SHOOT HIM IN THE DICK DAISY

I suppose he did say that he is a rolecop, recently admitted that he is able to actually use that role every night ... I suppose in your role PM it clearly defines what each of your gifty items does.

I think he's bad. A fully sexual role cop is not a civ. Shoot him Daisy. Shoot him in the dick.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:35 am I have no idea what happened to INH, it was not related to me. And yes I dropped a subtle hint in the thread early that I was sending him my watch before I sent it.

1. How the fuck should I know how sprityo knows anything?
2. Already answered this above.
3. I am not a night tracker. I am an inventor. Someone else apparently gave me a one shot track. I don't know who or why.
4. I actually don't have a specific character, I was just the "Mad Scientist" which I thought was weird given one of my items was a "cookie" hardly an invention.

It's just weird to me that you aren't more confused as to how he knew your role so intimately that he knew exactly what the cookie did?

Please answer these questions:

1. How did sprityo know what your cookie did?
2. Is your having given golden a benign seeming ability (watch?) the reason he town read you?
3. Are you claiming you are both a night tracker AND an inventor?
4. What is your character (out of curiosity more than anything)?

Has your civ credibility been gained on the back of having given Golden an item earlier in the game? Is that the extent of it?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:24 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:56 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:55 am Because I got confused about what two of my items did and gave him one that was a role block by accident! I meant to give him the double vote.
You gave Scotty an item that when used role blocked him? Or role blocked who he targeted? Was he made aware of what the item does? I am confused as to the mechanism of your role tbh.
I have a certain number of one shot items I can create and give away. I created and gave him what I believed to be a vote doubler. The cookie. It wasn't until sprityo just said what he did that I went back and checked and fuck me, he's right. i mixed up yy vote doubler and my role blocker. He claims to have eaten it, therefore he was probably blocked. Fucking awful mistake.

Mac what do you think about the fact that sprityo doesn't seem to have realized taht Scotty was vanished?

And how did sprityo know that?

What he said

And on what night did you give him this item? What night would it have been utilised? Can you just explain everything like I am five please.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:55 am Because I got confused about what two of my items did and gave him one that was a role block by accident! I meant to give him the double vote.

You gave Scotty an item that when used role blocked him? Or role blocked who he targeted? Was he made aware of what the item does? I am confused as to the mechanism of your role tbh.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:04 am They weren’t really one shot. I just didn’t want suspicion drawn to me. This is my only defense because I’m sure you guys won’t listen to reason

@Scotty the cookie daisy gave you is a roll block. She wanted you to eat it the other day remember?

Who is bad sprityo?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:15 am Just when I started to feel good about how I was playing. Fucking hell thats frustrating. I’m so sorry Scotty. Hopefully we can still pull this out and I won’t feel so bad.

Mac I’m going to use this thing. Is Sprityo the absolute best choice? Or Colin?

What are you freaking out about and why are you putting it all on me? You've been coordinating the town efforts most of the game. Why the sudden urge to defer accountability?

Sprityo is bad, he has to be.
colin or epi is the teammate. Either.

Spacedaisy tracked Epi and saw him target juliets.

That vibes with a doctor enough to just take the tinfoil hat off imo.

Colin has failed to correctly predict a single election. I think he's just been lying about his role. I think the role claims are going to end up being the downfall of sprityo and colin here.

There are many combinations of wifom and tinfoil that could drive us crazy but ultimately we just have to be rational now and hope that it wins out.

Correctly lynching today = 5 left
Final scum kills again = 4 left
Lynch again = 3 left
Kill = 2 left games over

Okay gotta correctly lynch twice in a row sadly.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:55 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:17 pm @sprityo who is your proposed final 2 mafia?
It’s only logical that it be Epi and Kyle. Unless daisy or Colin is pulling one over on me

The only way that it is Epignosis and Kyle is if Lapluie and Lunalee were not. Given the way you behaved towards both those lynches you might as well just mafia claim and try to wifom us into mislynching tomorrow though. That's what I'd do.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:45 pm scotty died, he wasn't a mafia stunt kill or we would have been at mylo yesterday and also that would be a fucking crazy move, indicating probably civ. confirms golden/juliets since those two player slots have been paired for a while.

spacedaisy is a toolmaker of some kind and epignosis is a doctor kind of but not really, but also yes? neither of those roles are particularly mafia-like if real, spacedaisy's role is probably not fake since it's been talked about existing prior to revelation. epignosis could be fake, maybe epi targeted juliets with a negative thing that wasn't a kill or a protect? I guess that's the main danger with him.

that leaves sprityo and Colin who I don't remember shit about other than Colin grilled me a bunch about turnip head and has a role that gives him an extra vote if he predicts night poll results and what did sprityo claim?

You promised me you'd read my sprityo case.

Dude's bad. There's no chance he's good at this juncture. I'd say Colin is aware of that at this point and has chosen the path of distancing.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:36 pm Now, I need to know the person we want to kill with it, beating in mind that if a civ dies on accident we lose. We have to be VERY sure of the target. Input Juliet’s, Mac? Do you think I could be mistaken in my conclusion regarding the might actions?

There is little chance sprityo is town at this point. His partner is most likely Colin, least likely Epignosis, possibly Kyle... given what you say about their night actions it's gotta be Col.

So yeah you good.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:32 pm Ideally I wanted to give it to Mac again. But this worked out just fine.

It’s a gun that when fired at a civ will kill the person holding it instead.

Oh neat

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:31 pm That was exactly the intention. I wanted it back in play.

This seems dumb given it could have just ended up in scum hands

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:50 pm @MacDougall are you still in contact with the ghosts of christmas past?

No, I have access to the quicktopic thing that I was in but when I came back speedchuck made a new one and locked the one I can see.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:22 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:14 pm @Spacedaisy what did you do on night 3?
I gave Mac a desperado gun.

OHHHH I would have loved that.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:08 pm Ok look. Kyle definitely targeted me last night. And Epi definitely visited Juliet’s last night but she didn’t die, which leads me to believe he is a doctor as he says. I don’t see another reason to visit her.

This leaves me with Colin and Sprityo.

When are you going to reveal that you are a civ to me?

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:37 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:11 pm
Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:34 am Okay I think I have seen enough to want sprityo's head on a pike.

1. The Claim

His role claim is weird and the choices are weirder. It doesn't seem like a civ role and the application of it doesn't seem civvie in the slightest.

In my defense, I didn’t submit my first night action. Would’ve loved to have saved it for later in fact. And my night 2 track of daisy was more so on a whim if anything

2. The Defense

He was the main person trying to object to the lapluie lynch and only ended up voting for her when there was no reason not to as I demonstrated in the post above.

i did not object to the lynch in the slightest

Here's another post that Epignosis also called bullshit on.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:42 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:26 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:06 pm Colonialbob is available to replace Lapluie, albeit at low effort since he won't be around at certain times.

I am uncertain whether to do this or just let things run their course.
The fact that you're asking confirms lapluie is bad. Let us lynch her.
Flawed logic at its finest
He is very aware of what he is doing. So much so he unprovokedly says this.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:58 pm Not to say it looks like I’m defending lapluie. I’m just saying how you’re acting is....odd
i was fully prepared to go into the lap lynch that day. Same if it had been Kyle or Epi. How Epi went about so eager to “confirm” lapluie was bad to show to everyone else “hey guys I’m lynching the baddy, it’s a for sure deal!” That did not sit right with me.

He also did the exact same thing on the Lunalee lynch.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:49 pm Fine. You all win, I'll do what you want. Against my own feelings on this. [VOTE: lunalee] aubergine

You have someone who has claimed openly to not be civ aligned, and you want to believe them and possibly allow them the space to do what they want. We'll see how this goes. I hope you all are right.
You literally quoted @Spacedaisy...... nice try mac

3. The Indie Hunter

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:50 pm to follow up what i just posted, to toss in my two cents.

independents are basically guaranteed in this game, otherwise it wouldnt be fun. on top of that, it makes the Scientist role more reasonable if quin is as he says (or from what i've gathered mac had said just then) i havent gone back to see what quin ACTUALLY "claimed"
He very quickly started talking about independents, a scumtell. Here's some more.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:52 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:51 pm er.....

that's not a bad point actually

as great as the case is, i'd be fine with either or. TH is claiming 3P and that secures us one less infraction to worry about as town
i was caught up in the granduer of golden's case

that also reminds me, are we just ignoring INH now orrr?

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:26 pm so that's it then? assume TH is working in the interest of town?

look dont let me say i told you so when he soup kills like three people at once
you’re going to get on me about wanting to lynch Indies, when I know for a FACT, daisy and Colin were in the exact same positions? I had legitimate concerns over TH at the time. And literally no one addressed INH, he just died during the night somehow and that was that, no more INH. You want to shame me for being concerned about crazy indie roles in a crazy closed setup?

4. The Salad

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:35 pm coming back midway or so through day 2.

Epi is town, he's indecisive and changes is suspicions on a whim, i observed a good deal of it in Fire Emblem. He is right most of the time though in his suspicions, but he's best at defending himself.
Golden leans town for me with his interactions of sig, quin, mac, and INH. But it's more so just banter. than throwing down some "you're bad, fuck you"
i dont trust Quin (right now) in the slightest. A stump isnt activated by default from what ive seen. he's either lying out his ass or some convoluted shit is happening. on top of the "random PM" deal im still reading through. I hope it gets resolved
I keep seeing Colin pop in now and again. contributing somewhat.
Same with luna except it's nothing relevant, warrants an ISO once im done reading day2
if INH is not town, then when are we going to lynch him?
Mac is town but i dont know why yet.
He makes a decisive read on Epi in an attempt to buddy/disarm him. This entire post is a mixture of reads and observations. The comments on Colin and Luna are particularly pingy in that they seem to serve no benefit other than to demonstrate that he is reading the game. The comment on me, I have no worldly idea what that's about.

That’s excatly what it was mac, it was me reading to catch up. To say I made a “decisive” read is false, and to buddy someone is something I loathe. If people want to trust me that’s fine, but I don’t aim for it.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:38 pm i also group turniphead with luna in that they havent done anything worthy to not be lynched as far as ive read
This is a similar comment but has the extended weirdness of the phrasing. Just something off about the phrase "worthy to not be lynched". In both aforementioned posts he is fairly encouraging of the idea of lynching the two independents, which again, is a scum type behavior.

and again, to single me out as such makes this look worse than it is. I’m positive Scotty said something akin to what you quoted as well. I don’t live with double standards, mac

5. The Low Value Content

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:44 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:31 pm
Spoiler: show

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:24 pm
Addendum: if he didn’t vanish, then we know he’s lying.

I see what you mean.

Got it.

*hails waitress*

Check please!

yesssss exactly.

if we lynch him early then we don't know what alignment he died with but if we let him achieve his stated wincon we'll know if he was lying.

if his wincon claim is a definite lie then we can comfortably lynch him based on that evidence, but if we lynch him before it can come to fruition then turnip head remains a mystery until the end.
This rationale makes sense and at the same time makes me uneasy. very uneasy. There's no definite that the future will be as predicted
Another pointless "I have feelings towards this game" post.

again see above about me having concerns for the town and daisy having the same concerns. I’m really starting to dislike all these single out posts mac

6. The Struggle to Find Other Viable Candidates Aside from His Teammates

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:58 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:36 pm Mac and I are braintwinning right now, for real
this rubs me the wrong way

my gut has the rumblies
Sus on Colin with no explanation as to why. Pushing one of the other guys starting to have the POE crunch come down on them into the limelight subtly. Then he started to half jokingly point fingers at Spacedaisy.

ever heard of a gut read? This was that. Like you say I was buddying Epi or whatever when I first got in, but this looks 10x more likely a buddy

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:25 am I know golden said he trusted daisy as his core town, I don’t think he said why outside of his own beliefs. Did you feel the same Scotty?

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:53 am Good news Scotty, if you die, we’ll know that daisy is the one who killed you
Note, he has already tracked Spacedaisy targeting Scotty and we see Scotty is still alive. He has ZERO reason to doubt or suspect her.

false, the coincidence that Scotty got an item on the sameness night I tracked daisy confirms she gave it to him. Daisy has yet to claim at all so for all I know, it could be a useless item, or it could have either good or bad effects. You forgot to mention how she’s encouraged Scotty to eat the cookie in that same day. So I mean i would hope it’s a good item.

7. The Contradiction

This could be the most telling thing. In these consecutive posts he goes from defending the position of trusting and letting TH do what TH do.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:44 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:28 pm I have a question for people who are pro-Turnip
Head: why?
why not

indi doesnt have to care who wins, as long as their wincon is met
To criticising someone for trusting TH.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:16 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:52 pm I will campaign to not see TH lynched today if need be. But I didn't really realise there was any threat of that, because I can't imagine any good reason to lynch him. All the facts suggest he is not mafia, to me. I have no interest in lynching an indy when the player numbers are so small and the indy is claiming he'll vanish anyway. This one I definitely would see as a waste of a lynch.

Why would you not let it play out and see if he is being honest? Like - if we lynch TH and prevent him winning by one day and go on to lose because we've wasted a lynch on this, I will riot.

There is absolutely nothing about TH's behaviour in the entire game that suggests any kind of agenda.
we just trust indy's now based on word alone?
that’s one hell of a jump you got there, I’ll need to check on where exactly I said this, but I’m almost positive it was before I knew HOW TH needed his wincon. That’s the important part here. And to say changes of opinion haven’t happened in an instant elsewhere in the game mac is hypocritical

In Closing

This feels ... insanely correct. Please do yourselves a favour and read that and tell me how you can justify voting for anybody else tomorrow?

In all, I see a lot of framing to fit the picture here. You really want me to be bad off circumstantial evidence, but to address me singularily and say “this is bad, you’re the only bad one” is crap. You’re like a politician
On the contrary, you were the last person of the 4 in the POE I analysed. I had a civ read on you. I have no agenda here sprityo
if there wasn’t no agenda, why didn’t I get the special big post and negative context about the whole thing?

Because after I did ISO read throughs of everybody you stood out as the most obvious scum of them all.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:11 pm @MacDougall can you see my concern with your big post? To me, it’s like you’ve been gunning for me since I’ve replaced in.

Does me gunning for you inherently make you good does it? No I really can't see your concern. You are just trying to defend yourself with what little ground you have to stand on, which is fine.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:41 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:23 pm As far as bussing goes I voted also for all those people so I’m not sure why you think Epi wouldn’t do that while I would. If sprit isn’t the last one it HAS to be him.
You also pushed back against their lynches. It's incomparable. Epi drove the bus off a cliff and then set fire to the wreckage.
Can you show me where I “pushed back”? Because I don’t agree with that assessment at all. I feel like the TH business aside I’m pretty much with the rest of town and I’m really confused by this

I'm too tired to do this right now. I had a quick look and saw nothing so I might be taking for granted that Golden was actually not just tunneling you.

speedchuck end dat night

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:04 pm MacDougall, I think your big post on sprityo looks solid, but I have to take off points because one of the quotes in there belongs to Spacedaisy, not sprityo.

Yeah fuck

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